Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser
Does that include TN3270? Does OSA-ICC support TLS? Once MVS is up, how do you run SMCS consoles without TN3270? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 6:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 20:52:35 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I'm referring to the "Integrated 3270 Console"; I wouldn't use it if I could >telnet into OSA-ICC. > TELNET is deprecated, (perhaps unfairly after Sun let developers' backdoor escape into the wild). Ssh? AT/TLS? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser
On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 20:52:35 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I'm referring to the "Integrated 3270 Console"; I wouldn't use it if I could >telnet into OSA-ICC. > TELNET is deprecated, (perhaps unfairly after Sun let developers' backdoor escape into the wild). Ssh? AT/TLS? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser
I'm referring to the "Integrated 3270 Console"; I wouldn't use it if I could telnet into OSA-ICC. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Allan Staller Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 4:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser Are you referring to the "Integrated 3270 Console" DEVNUM(HMCS) in CONSOLxx which requires no reference to JAVA Or "Operating System Messages" DEVNUM(SYSCONS) in CONSOLxx which is JAVA dependent. This integrated 3270 console is especially useful in early IPL before the SMCS consoles have initialized. I have some issues w/IE and the HMC, but IBM wants FIREFOX (and another couple, not including IE). HTH. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 2:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser The HMC is adequate for the master console, but you'll be much happier using TN3270 session. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C2acf64d0c64e4c8a635c08d727385886%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C637020995289157029&sdata=Tkp2bpfleubPqr8TVluR5lEH91PG8eAgzeEcJVO%2F3Uk%3D&reserved=0 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Christian Svensson <022ad63487ef-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 2:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser Hi, Thanks - seems my options are limited on the z114 in this regard - OSA Express4S is marked as z12BC only for copper 1Gbit. I wonder if anyone has had any success running 4S or even 5S regardless? I'm guessing the models are not part of the 93G driver. What are my options? Is the Integrated 3270 console in the HMC sufficient to run e.g. the master console of z/OS and z/VM?. Thanks, On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:28 PM Parwez Hamid wrote: > Any PCIe based OSA Express 1000BASE-T feature defined as OSC supports > OSA-ICC > > Regards > > Parwez Hamid > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: -- The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser
Are you referring to the "Integrated 3270 Console" DEVNUM(HMCS) in CONSOLxx which requires no reference to JAVA Or "Operating System Messages" DEVNUM(SYSCONS) in CONSOLxx which is JAVA dependent. This integrated 3270 console is especially useful in early IPL before the SMCS consoles have initialized. I have some issues w/IE and the HMC, but IBM wants FIREFOX (and another couple, not including IE). HTH. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 2:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser The HMC is adequate for the master console, but you'll be much happier using TN3270 session. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=02%7C01%7Callan.staller%40HCL.COM%7C2acf64d0c64e4c8a635c08d727385886%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C637020995289157029&sdata=Tkp2bpfleubPqr8TVluR5lEH91PG8eAgzeEcJVO%2F3Uk%3D&reserved=0 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Christian Svensson <022ad63487ef-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 2:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser Hi, Thanks - seems my options are limited on the z114 in this regard - OSA Express4S is marked as z12BC only for copper 1Gbit. I wonder if anyone has had any success running 4S or even 5S regardless? I'm guessing the models are not part of the 93G driver. What are my options? Is the Integrated 3270 console in the HMC sufficient to run e.g. the master console of z/OS and z/VM?. Thanks, On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:28 PM Parwez Hamid wrote: > Any PCIe based OSA Express 1000BASE-T feature defined as OSC supports > OSA-ICC > > Regards > > Parwez Hamid > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ::DISCLAIMER:: -- The contents of this e-mail and any attachment(s) are confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. E-mail transmission is not guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or may contain viruses in transmission. The e mail and its contents (with or without referred errors) shall therefore not attach any liability on the originator or HCL or its affiliates. Views or opinions, if any, presented in this email are solely those of the author and may not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of HCL or its affiliates. Any form of reproduction, dissemination, copying, disclosure, modification, distribution and / or publication of this message without the prior written consent of authorized representative of HCL is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify the sender immediately. Before opening any email and/or attachments, please check them for viruses and other defects. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser
The HMC is adequate for the master console, but you'll be much happier using TN3270 session. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Christian Svensson <022ad63487ef-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 2:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser Hi, Thanks - seems my options are limited on the z114 in this regard - OSA Express4S is marked as z12BC only for copper 1Gbit. I wonder if anyone has had any success running 4S or even 5S regardless? I'm guessing the models are not part of the 93G driver. What are my options? Is the Integrated 3270 console in the HMC sufficient to run e.g. the master console of z/OS and z/VM?. Thanks, On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:28 PM Parwez Hamid wrote: > Any PCIe based OSA Express 1000BASE-T feature defined as OSC supports > OSA-ICC > > Regards > > Parwez Hamid > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser
Hi, Thanks - seems my options are limited on the z114 in this regard - OSA Express4S is marked as z12BC only for copper 1Gbit. I wonder if anyone has had any success running 4S or even 5S regardless? I'm guessing the models are not part of the 93G driver. What are my options? Is the Integrated 3270 console in the HMC sufficient to run e.g. the master console of z/OS and z/VM?. Thanks, On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:28 PM Parwez Hamid wrote: > Any PCIe based OSA Express 1000BASE-T feature defined as OSC supports > OSA-ICC > > Regards > > Parwez Hamid > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser
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Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser
Hi, I see - I tried with Internet Explorer and indeed things seems to be moving further ahead. Some applets' certificates expired in 2016 so I think that might one of the problems I'm hitting. I'll see about resigning them. Regarding OSA-ICC. Is there a way to get that using PCIe cages only? I wish to decom the ESCON bay in this z114 to conserve power, but I have not found an OSA Express that has ICC in PCIe. Thanks, On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 12:29 AM Cieri, Anthony wrote: > > Weather this is possible may depend upon the level of Java that > you are using. > > I use FireFox to connect to the HMC for an older z10 machine. I > also keep a Java Version 7 installed specifically for the Integrated 3270 > Console function. I have colleagues here with similar PC configurations, > that have Java Version 8 or later installed. They can access some HMC > functions via a remote Web Browser, but unfortunately the Integrated 3270 > console is NOT one of them. > > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Christian Svensson > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:05 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser > > [[ SEI WARNING *** This email was sent from an external source. Do not > open attachments or click on links from unknown or suspicious senders. *** > ]] > > > Hi, > > Is it possible to launch Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 when accessing > the HMC using a web browser? > > When I click on the LPAR and choose Integrated 3270 Console nothing happens > when using a remote web browser. It works locally on the HMC. The Chrome > network request is: > > Request URL: https:///hmc/ui/dnd2/launch > Request Method: POST > Status Code: 204 No Content > Remote Address: 10.114.2.10:443 > Referrer Policy: no-referrer-when-downgrade > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 06:00:22 GMT > Server: zSeries management console embedded web server / 2.0 > > Nothing more. Am I missing something? Some other actions at least say "this > task cannot be used remotely" which makes me wonder if I'm doing something > wrong. > > Bonus question: Can I connect to the LPAR 3270 console remotely in some > other fashion? > > Thanks, > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser
Weather this is possible may depend upon the level of Java that you are using. I use FireFox to connect to the HMC for an older z10 machine. I also keep a Java Version 7 installed specifically for the Integrated 3270 Console function. I have colleagues here with similar PC configurations, that have Java Version 8 or later installed. They can access some HMC functions via a remote Web Browser, but unfortunately the Integrated 3270 console is NOT one of them. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Christian Svensson Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser [[ SEI WARNING *** This email was sent from an external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown or suspicious senders. *** ]] Hi, Is it possible to launch Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 when accessing the HMC using a web browser? When I click on the LPAR and choose Integrated 3270 Console nothing happens when using a remote web browser. It works locally on the HMC. The Chrome network request is: Request URL: https:///hmc/ui/dnd2/launch Request Method: POST Status Code: 204 No Content Remote Address: 10.114.2.10:443 Referrer Policy: no-referrer-when-downgrade Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 06:00:22 GMT Server: zSeries management console embedded web server / 2.0 Nothing more. Am I missing something? Some other actions at least say "this task cannot be used remotely" which makes me wonder if I'm doing something wrong. Bonus question: Can I connect to the LPAR 3270 console remotely in some other fashion? Thanks, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser
On Aug 14, 2019, at 1:04 AM, Christian Svensson <022ad63487ef-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Is it possible to launch Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 when accessing > the HMC using a web browser? > > When I click on the LPAR and choose Integrated 3270 Console nothing happens > when using a remote web browser. It works locally on the HMC. The Chrome > network request is: > > Request URL: https:///hmc/ui/dnd2/launch > Request Method: POST > Status Code: 204 No Content > Remote Address: 10.114.2.10:443 > Referrer Policy: no-referrer-when-downgrade > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 06:00:22 GMT > Server: zSeries management console embedded web server / 2.0 > > Nothing more. Am I missing something? Some other actions at least say "this > task cannot be used remotely" which makes me wonder if I'm doing something > wrong. It should work just as well remotely, but there are lots of things that could go wrong. > > Bonus question: Can I connect to the LPAR 3270 console remotely in some > other fashion? Maybe. Do you have one or more OSA-ICC features configured? Have you set up SMCS consoles? I can access an LPAR console by logging on to the HMC and opening the integrated 3270 console, or by connecting my tn3270E client to an OSA-ICC console LU, or by accessing an SMCS console from my VTAM session manager. -- Pew, Curtis G curtis@austin.utexas.edu -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 in web browser
Hi, Is it possible to launch Integrated 3270 Console in HMC 2.12 when accessing the HMC using a web browser? When I click on the LPAR and choose Integrated 3270 Console nothing happens when using a remote web browser. It works locally on the HMC. The Chrome network request is: Request URL: https:///hmc/ui/dnd2/launch Request Method: POST Status Code: 204 No Content Remote Address: 10.114.2.10:443 Referrer Policy: no-referrer-when-downgrade Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 06:00:22 GMT Server: zSeries management console embedded web server / 2.0 Nothing more. Am I missing something? Some other actions at least say "this task cannot be used remotely" which makes me wonder if I'm doing something wrong. Bonus question: Can I connect to the LPAR 3270 console remotely in some other fashion? Thanks, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
