Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ
Your storage management should take care of it. If they're not used they'll get archived. If they're on system packs there's probably a reason. Our only casuality from Y2K was the bleepin 19yr old fiche machine. Fortunately the source was readily available and were able to fix in a couple of passes. In a message dated 08/12/13 14:57:18 Central Daylight Time, mitchmc writes: equally important to find out those that are not used, and/or where/when they are used? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ
Would it be equally important to find out those that are not used, and/or where/when they are used? Mitch McCluhan, Legacy Modernization Consultant -Original Message- From: Eric Bielefeld To: IBM-MAIN Sent: Mon, Aug 12, 2013 12:08 pm Subject: Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ Yes - DADSM is the program I was thinking of. I knew someone would know the ight one. Eric Bielefeld /OS Systems Programmer ilwaukee, Wisconsin 14-475-7434 - Original Message - rom: "Matthew Stitt" ewsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main o: ent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:35 AM ubject: Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ ou have just reminded me of DADSM, which is located on file 527 of the CBT ape. That program could list all datasets found on ll online volumes and did give a space summary by volume and HLQ. There is lso an option to list only certain volumes. On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:15:35 -0500, Eric Bielefeld rote: >There was a program on the CBT site that allowed you to list all datasets. Unfortuneately, I can't remember the name of it. It might have been called SUPRLIST? If I remember, at the beginning of the list it listed every high level qualifier, and the total number of datasets that started with that qualifier and the space they occupied. That was followed by an alphabetical list of every dataset, one line per DS. When I worked at P&H Mining, we used to print that list, and every week send it off site with all of our backup tapes. It was only about 2 inches thick. I used to use the list occasionally just to look for overallocated datasets, and other things. -- or IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, end email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ
Yes - DADSM is the program I was thinking of. I knew someone would know the right one. Eric Bielefeld z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: "Matthew Stitt" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:35 AM Subject: Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ You have just reminded me of DADSM, which is located on file 527 of the CBT tape. That program could list all datasets found on all online volumes and did give a space summary by volume and HLQ. There is also an option to list only certain volumes. On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:15:35 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: There was a program on the CBT site that allowed you to list all datasets. Unfortuneately, I can't remember the name of it. It might have been called SUPRLIST? If I remember, at the beginning of the list it listed every high level qualifier, and the total number of datasets that started with that qualifier and the space they occupied. That was followed by an alphabetical list of every dataset, one line per DS. When I worked at P&H Mining, we used to print that list, and every week send it off site with all of our backup tapes. It was only about 2 inches thick. I used to use the list occasionally just to look for overallocated datasets, and other things. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ
Venerable PDS cmd can do most of this. HLQ mask, VOL, PUB, PRI or STOR. ISMF has similar stuff if you can get the columns sorted out. Break on Totals comes to mind for some reason... In a message dated 08/12/13 11:36:02 Central Daylight Time, mathwst...@bellsouth.net writes: You have just reminded me of DADSM, which is located on file 527 of the CBT tape. That program could list all datasets found on all online volumes and did give a space summary by volume and HLQ. There is also an option to list only certain volumes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ
Another program on the CBT that can do it is the VTOC command - File 112. I also have a REXX program on my web site and CBT file 434 called VTOCTOT that reads the output from the VTOC command and creates totals by HLQ. VTOCTOT is in the "programs" section of my web site (url below). Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 11:35:54 -0500, Matthew Stitt wrote: >You have just reminded me of DADSM, which is located on file 527 of the CBT >tape. That program could list all datasets found on >all online volumes and did give a space summary by volume and HLQ. There is >also an option to list only certain volumes. > >On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:15:35 -0500, Eric Bielefeld >wrote: > >>There was a program on the CBT site that allowed you to list all datasets. >>Unfortuneately, I can't remember the name of it. It might have been called >>SUPRLIST? If I remember, at the beginning of the list it listed every high >>level qualifier, and the total number of datasets that started with that >>qualifier and the space they occupied. That was followed by an alphabetical >>list of every dataset, one line per DS. >> >>When I worked at P&H Mining, we used to print that list, and every week send >>it off site with all of our backup tapes. It was only about 2 inches thick. >>I used to use the list occasionally just to look for overallocated datasets, >>and other things. >> >>Eric Bielefeld >>z/OS Systems Programmer >>Milwaukee, Wisconsin >>414-475-7434 >> >>----- Original Message - >>From: "Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila" >>Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main >>To: >>Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:59 PM >>Subject: List all dataset in system by HLQ >> >> >>Hello Group. >>I want to know if it is possible to list all datasets on the system but I'm >>just interested to obtain the list by the HLQ. >> >>That way I can get this? >> >>Example. >> >>sys1. * >>parmlib. * >> >> >>Thanks to all >> >>ATTE >> >>Victor > >-- >For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ
You have just reminded me of DADSM, which is located on file 527 of the CBT tape. That program could list all datasets found on all online volumes and did give a space summary by volume and HLQ. There is also an option to list only certain volumes. On Mon, 12 Aug 2013 09:15:35 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: >There was a program on the CBT site that allowed you to list all datasets. >Unfortuneately, I can't remember the name of it. It might have been called >SUPRLIST? If I remember, at the beginning of the list it listed every high >level qualifier, and the total number of datasets that started with that >qualifier and the space they occupied. That was followed by an alphabetical >list of every dataset, one line per DS. > >When I worked at P&H Mining, we used to print that list, and every week send >it off site with all of our backup tapes. It was only about 2 inches thick. >I used to use the list occasionally just to look for overallocated datasets, >and other things. > >Eric Bielefeld >z/OS Systems Programmer >Milwaukee, Wisconsin >414-475-7434 > >- Original Message - >From: "Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila" >Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main >To: >Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:59 PM >Subject: List all dataset in system by HLQ > > >Hello Group. >I want to know if it is possible to list all datasets on the system but I'm >just interested to obtain the list by the HLQ. > >That way I can get this? > >Example. > >sys1. * >parmlib. * > > >Thanks to all > >ATTE > >Victor -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ
I actually thought he was looking for all HLQs. But beyond that I do not know what he wants to do with the data. If he just wants the HLQs, you can do that with LISTC ENT(mastercat) ALIAS Turn off your TSO Profile first or run in batch. or LISTC ALIAS ALL (this should be done in Batch or LISTCAT is invoked from a TSO terminal and no operands are specified, the prefix (the TSO userid) becomes the highest level of entryname qualification and only those entries with a matching highest level of qualification are listed (AMS for ICF manual under LISTCAT). We were misled at first that it was the security access level, because we were simply unaware that the test system had been previously set to PROFILE NOPREFIX. . What you will need to do: 1. enter PROFILE NOPREFIX 2. then do the LISTCAT ALIAS ALL 3. this will return with the system aliases that you want to see. Or this process LISTC cat(mcat_name) UCAT LISTC ENT(ucat_name) ALL It will depend on what the poster is wanting to do. The master cat will just need to be listed. Unless there are products like SAS/MXG or SAS/MICS or CA-VANTAGE, it will just take a little bit of effort and maybe coding. I wrote a REXX to do this without the Catalog Search Interface Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 7:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ John Eells wrote: >At the risk of giving you an answer that might not do what you want, this will >list all the cataloged data sets: No risk. :-) After re-reading OP's question, I now see his question is somewhat ambiguous. Especially after I observed a space between the dot and the star, like this 'sys1. *' in the OP post. Does he want a list of all HLQ defined (in standard Catalog Search Order) or does he want a list of all DSN starting with a (specific or many?) HLQ? Perhaps the OP could say, why, how and what does he want this list? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht Sidenote: using *% as an argument in ISPF option =3.4 can be really tiresome... ;-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ
There was a program on the CBT site that allowed you to list all datasets. Unfortuneately, I can't remember the name of it. It might have been called SUPRLIST? If I remember, at the beginning of the list it listed every high level qualifier, and the total number of datasets that started with that qualifier and the space they occupied. That was followed by an alphabetical list of every dataset, one line per DS. When I worked at P&H Mining, we used to print that list, and every week send it off site with all of our backup tapes. It was only about 2 inches thick. I used to use the list occasionally just to look for overallocated datasets, and other things. Eric Bielefeld z/OS Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: "Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: List all dataset in system by HLQ Hello Group. I want to know if it is possible to list all datasets on the system but I'm just interested to obtain the list by the HLQ. That way I can get this? Example. sys1. * parmlib. * Thanks to all ATTE Victor -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ
John Eells wrote: >At the risk of giving you an answer that might not do what you want, this will >list all the cataloged data sets: No risk. :-) After re-reading OP's question, I now see his question is somewhat ambiguous. Especially after I observed a space between the dot and the star, like this 'sys1. *' in the OP post. Does he want a list of all HLQ defined (in standard Catalog Search Order) or does he want a list of all DSN starting with a (specific or many?) HLQ? Perhaps the OP could say, why, how and what does he want this list? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht Sidenote: using *% as an argument in ISPF option =3.4 can be really tiresome... ;-) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ
At the risk of giving you an answer that might not do what you want, this will list all the cataloged data sets: //JOB //LIST EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * LISTCAT LEVEL(SYS1) ALL /* // Assuming you have authority to do so, that will list the data sets starting with SYS1 and some information about them. For just the list, omit "ALL." Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila wrote: Hello Group. I want to know if it is possible to list all datasets on the system but I'm just interested to obtain the list by the HLQ. -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ
Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila wrote: >I want to know if it is possible to list all datasets on the system but I'm >just interested to obtain the list by the HLQ. Yes. It is possible. Like Lizette kindly said, there are many ways to do that. I would like to add: If you have good RACF controls (PROTECT-ALL(FAIL)) and SMS and you protect your cataloged tape datasets with RACF, you can just list all your HLQ from RACF. But first, how do you want to obtain the list in the first place? Interactively (=3.4, ISMF), programmatic (REXX, Assembler) or from a database (tape management, HSM) or ... ??? >That way I can get this? I did this once via CSI. One catalog at a stage because of size. Do a quick sort (by name and perhaps also by DEVTYPE). Parse out everything left of the first dot. Sort while dropping the duplicates. Repeat for each catalog and you have everything you want. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: List all dataset in system by HLQ
It will depend. Are you looking for something in ISPF like option 3.4? Do you want to read a DCOLLECT file that will contain all files on Dasd, Migrated? Do you want to use ISMF? Do you want to code a program like REXX or COBOL? Many ways to do what you want. You can also use the Catalog Search Interface (CSI) I typically use DCOLLECT with SAS and MXG Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Victor Hugo Ochoa Avila Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: List all dataset in system by HLQ Hello Group. I want to know if it is possible to list all datasets on the system but I'm just interested to obtain the list by the HLQ. That way I can get this? Example. sys1. * parmlib. * Thanks to all ATTE Victor -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
List all dataset in system by HLQ
Hello Group. I want to know if it is possible to list all datasets on the system but I'm just interested to obtain the list by the HLQ. That way I can get this? Example. sys1. * parmlib. * Thanks to all ATTE Victor -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN