Re: Need help for two LPARS sharing DASD

2014-06-19 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
John, 

We run a home-written REXX that uses a combination of volume naming conventions 
and catalog information to vary offline the volumes not wanted. Our volsers 
have either a system id, a sysplex id, or a 3-char application id in them. The 
system and plex ids are checked against system variables. The application id is 
checked against what user catalogs are defined. The exec generates V 
-,OFFLINE commands that are fed into a SDFS step. Whole thing is 
started by System Automation at IPL time.

We don't have to manually maintain IODF settings or VARY commands to keep track 
of what should be online/offline.

Bart

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Subject: Need help for two LPARS sharing DASD

My production LPAR and Test LPAR have access to almost 600 volumes.

My test LPAR only uses and needs about 24 volumes. 

Any ideas how, at IPL time for the test LPAR, I can  use commands to 
restrict the LPAR to only these 24 volumes.

For sure, I could issue vary off and vary on commands for only those 
volumes needed or not needed by the test LPAR,
but the UCB's  are so numerous that there would be dozens of commands. I 
am just trying to have a smaller list of commands
in my COMMNDXX member

Any other simpler way to accomplish this task?

Thanks.



John Norgauer
Senior Systems Programmer
Mainframe Technical Support Services
University of California Davis Medical Center
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Suite 200
Sacramento, Ca 95816
916-734-0536

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Re: Need help for two LPARS sharing DASD

2014-06-18 Thread Skip Robinson
An OS config for each plex (not LPAR) is the best way to handle this case. 
No harm in giving yourself plenty of extra volumes in the test plex config 
for adding or moving data. Just not hundreds. Varying 50 volumes offline 
takes a far smaller toll on your system than 500. 

Having lived this way for many years, I suggest also maintaining a 
fallback OS config that puts all volumes online at IPL just in case 
something you need happens to wander outside the designated range. Include 
a LOADxx member for this all-inclusive config. 

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From:   Shane Ginnane 
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Date:   06/18/2014 05:43 PM
Subject:Re: Need help for two LPARS sharing DASD
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 18:56:44 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:

> I don't like the idea of messing with my IODF every time I change the 
volumes my sandbox(s) need. 

This seems a common refrain, but I have to agree with Matthew - I like the 
OSCONFIG option.
Seems the John has a fairly static list of volumes - extras needed can be 
varied as needed.

Now, about GRS ...

Shane ...


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Re: Need help for two LPARS sharing DASD

2014-06-18 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 18:56:44 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:

> I don't like the idea of messing with my IODF every time I change the volumes 
> my sandbox(s) need. 

This seems a common refrain, but I have to agree with Matthew - I like the 
OSCONFIG option.
Seems the John has a fairly static list of volumes - extras needed can be 
varied as needed.

Now, about GRS ...

Shane ...

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Re: Need help for two LPARS sharing DASD

2014-06-18 Thread Staller, Allan
Just go ahead and issue the vary commands. 
You may get a "command flooding in class M2" message if there are enough 
commands.
The resolution to this is do nothing. z/OS will handle the command flooding and 
you will eventually see a 'command flooding relieved in class M2" message.

You can reduce the number of commands with the "range" version of the command.
V -,offline

Excerpt from my test lpar COMMNDxx member

COM='V 8000-80BF,OFFLINE'
COM='V 8100-81BF,OFFLINE'
COM='V 8200-82BF,OFFLINE'
COM='V 8300-83BF,OFFLINE'
COM='V 8400-84BF,OFFLINE'
COM='V 8500-8503,OFFLINE'
COM='V 8505-85BF,OFFLINE'
COM='V 8600-8603,OFFLINE'  < note volume 8604 is left online...
COM='V 8605-86BF,OFFLINE'
COM='V 8700-8703,OFFLINE'

HTH,


My production LPAR and Test LPAR have access to almost 600 volumes.
My test LPAR only uses and needs about 24 volumes. 
Any ideas how, at IPL time for the test LPAR, I can  use commands to restrict 
the LPAR to only these 24 volumes.

For sure, I could issue vary off and vary on commands for only those volumes 
needed or not needed by the test LPAR, but the UCB's  are so numerous that 
there would be dozens of commands. I am just trying to have a smaller list of 
commands in my COMMNDXX member

Any other simpler way to accomplish this task?


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Re: Need help for two LPARS sharing DASD

2014-06-18 Thread Gibney, Dave
I don't like the idea of messing with my IODF every time I change the volumes 
my sandbox(s) need.

We use v -,offline your worst case  seems to be 26 commands, which is 
just barely dozens.

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> On Behalf Of Matthew Stitt
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> 
> The simplest method is to create an OSCONFIG in your IODF for each system.
> For the test system, mark the volumes as offline except for the 24 volumes
> you want to use.
> 
> Make sure you set the LOADxx parameters to specify the OSCONFIG you want
> to use.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 11:22:59 -0700, John Norgauer
>  wrote:
> 
> >My production LPAR and Test LPAR have access to almost 600 volumes.
> >
> >My test LPAR only uses and needs about 24 volumes.
> >
> >Any ideas how, at IPL time for the test LPAR, I can  use commands to
> >restrict the LPAR to only these 24 volumes.
> >
> >For sure, I could issue vary off and vary on commands for only those
> >volumes needed or not needed by the test LPAR, but the UCB's  are so
> >numerous that there would be dozens of commands. I am just trying to
> >have a smaller list of commands in my COMMNDXX member
> >
> >Any other simpler way to accomplish this task?
> >
> >Thanks.
> 
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Re: Need help for two LPARS sharing DASD

2014-06-18 Thread Matthew Stitt
The simplest method is to create an OSCONFIG in your IODF for each system.  For 
the test system, mark the volumes as offline except for the 24 volumes you want 
to use.

Make sure you set the LOADxx parameters to specify the OSCONFIG you want to use.

Matthew

On Wed, 18 Jun 2014 11:22:59 -0700, John Norgauer 
 wrote:

>My production LPAR and Test LPAR have access to almost 600 volumes.
>
>My test LPAR only uses and needs about 24 volumes.
>
>Any ideas how, at IPL time for the test LPAR, I can  use commands to
>restrict the LPAR to only these 24 volumes.
>
>For sure, I could issue vary off and vary on commands for only those
>volumes needed or not needed by the test LPAR,
>but the UCB's  are so numerous that there would be dozens of commands. I
>am just trying to have a smaller list of commands
>in my COMMNDXX member
>
>Any other simpler way to accomplish this task?
>
>Thanks.

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Need help for two LPARS sharing DASD

2014-06-18 Thread John Norgauer
My production LPAR and Test LPAR have access to almost 600 volumes.

My test LPAR only uses and needs about 24 volumes. 

Any ideas how, at IPL time for the test LPAR, I can  use commands to 
restrict the LPAR to only these 24 volumes.

For sure, I could issue vary off and vary on commands for only those 
volumes needed or not needed by the test LPAR,
but the UCB's  are so numerous that there would be dozens of commands. I 
am just trying to have a smaller list of commands
in my COMMNDXX member

Any other simpler way to accomplish this task?

Thanks.



John Norgauer
Senior Systems Programmer
Mainframe Technical Support Services
University of California Davis Medical Center
1651 Alhambra Blvd
Suite 200
Sacramento, Ca 95816
916-734-0536

 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING..  Guilty, until proven innocent !! "JN  2004

"Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works"  anon


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