Re: Product name by module

[Edward Finnell]

I checked listserv.ua.edu and this is your first post here.

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Re: Product name by module

[Rob Barbour]

P-Tracker from UBSHainer is a product that identifies all programs used 
in either online or batch mainframe asset discovery as it is 
sometimes called.  P-Tracker also identifies call sequences which is 
helpful for applications folks to determine which modules from where are 
being used.   Product  is reasonably priced and can be found at 
www.MainframeTracker.com


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Re: Product name by module

[Jeff Linnell]

Tivoli Asset Discovery is actually a combination of the Australian product from 
Ubiquity and Isogon's Soft Audit. It is a pricey product. Fujitsu offers the 
same, but as a service (Software Value Assessment Service (SVA) rather than a 
product. It identifies all load modules in all libraries and most the version 
and release level. An added feature of this service collects usage data which 
is incorporated into your inventory database to provide you with product usage 
to the job/user level. 

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Subject: Re: Product name by module

TAD4z is a great Australian developed product. It stores its data in DB2 tables 
and its Knowledge Base for product/vendor/version etc. is updated monthly. It 
covers all load from all environments although CICS is normally excluded, and 
it does not matter where the load module comes from, it will find it. OMVS is 
not involved except to extract executable info from USS HFS/ZFS files. The 
product was originally developed to identify unused products that companies pay 
continually for, so you can use it to assist in controlling your software 
budget. For pricing ask your IBM rep.

I personally have no interest in TAD4z except I know the developers and the 
product very well and I am currently employed by IBM till the end of this 
Month, yes another RA.

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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Of Lucas Rosalen
Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2016 7:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Product name by module

I know of IBM Tivoli Asset Discovery for z/OS (TADz).
It does a very good job and can show you many different graphical reports in a 
web application called Analyzer (of course you also need to have this part 
installed/configured) getting data straight from OMVS.
I don't know the price of it, as we wouldn't get that far supporting out 
clients, but I know we were able to identify some softwares like the one you 
mentioned. Even if their modules were called in STEPLIBs/JOBLIBs.

Probably some other ISVs software can do the same (and possibly even better?), 
but I don't have any personal experience with them.

Regards, Lucas
On May 21, 2016 10:15, "Peter" <dbajava...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks all for a reply and that was very useful.

The LPAR has lot of Obsolete entry on LINKLST and APF.

So is there any product which can tell me which LINKLISTED or APFed dataset are 
really used ?

Peter
On May 19, 2016 5:46 PM, "Peter Relson" <rel...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> I would have added, just in case the excellent advice previously given 
> didn't pan out:
>
> You might well get a clue simply from the name of the load module, as 
> "module prefixes" are pretty carefully managed by most.
> The prefix might not tell you all you want to know but will at least 
> usually get you to the owning company who could then provide more 
> granular info.
>
> I'm not sure how accessible to the general public is the list of 
> module prefixes vs owning company, but the information is available as 
> a last resort.
>
> Peter Relson
> z/OS Core Technology Design
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Re: Product name by module

[Paul Gillis]

TAD4z is a great Australian developed product. It stores its data in DB2 tables 
and its Knowledge Base for product/vendor/version etc. is updated monthly. It 
covers all load from all environments although CICS is normally excluded, and 
it does not matter where the load module comes from, it will find it. OMVS is 
not involved except to extract executable info from USS HFS/ZFS files. The 
product was originally developed to identify unused products that companies pay 
continually for, so you can use it to assist in controlling your software 
budget. For pricing ask your IBM rep.

I personally have no interest in TAD4z except I know the developers and the 
product very well and I am currently employed by IBM till the end of this 
Month, yes another RA.

Cheers,
Paul Gillis

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Lucas Rosalen
Sent: Saturday, 21 May 2016 7:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Product name by module

I know of IBM Tivoli Asset Discovery for z/OS (TADz).
It does a very good job and can show you many different graphical reports in a 
web application called Analyzer (of course you also need to have this part 
installed/configured) getting data straight from OMVS.
I don't know the price of it, as we wouldn't get that far supporting out 
clients, but I know we were able to identify some softwares like the one you 
mentioned. Even if their modules were called in STEPLIBs/JOBLIBs.

Probably some other ISVs software can do the same (and possibly even better?), 
but I don't have any personal experience with them.

Regards, Lucas
On May 21, 2016 10:15, "Peter" <dbajava...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks all for a reply and that was very useful.

The LPAR has lot of Obsolete entry on LINKLST and APF.

So is there any product which can tell me which LINKLISTED or APFed dataset are 
really used ?

Peter
On May 19, 2016 5:46 PM, "Peter Relson" <rel...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> I would have added, just in case the excellent advice previously given 
> didn't pan out:
>
> You might well get a clue simply from the name of the load module, as 
> "module prefixes" are pretty carefully managed by most.
> The prefix might not tell you all you want to know but will at least 
> usually get you to the owning company who could then provide more 
> granular info.
>
> I'm not sure how accessible to the general public is the list of 
> module prefixes vs owning company, but the information is available as 
> a last resort.
>
> Peter Relson
> z/OS Core Technology Design
>
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Re: Product name by module

[Lucas Rosalen]

I know of IBM Tivoli Asset Discovery for z/OS (TADz).
It does a very good job and can show you many different graphical reports
in a web application called Analyzer (of course you also need to have this
part installed/configured) getting data straight from OMVS.
I don't know the price of it, as we wouldn't get that far supporting out
clients, but I know we were able to identify some softwares like the one
you mentioned. Even if their modules were called in STEPLIBs/JOBLIBs.

Probably some other ISVs software can do the same (and possibly even
better?), but I don't have any personal experience with them.

Regards, Lucas
On May 21, 2016 10:15, "Peter"  wrote:

Thanks all for a reply and that was very useful.

The LPAR has lot of Obsolete entry on LINKLST and APF.

So is there any product which can tell me which LINKLISTED or APFed dataset
are really used ?

Peter
On May 19, 2016 5:46 PM, "Peter Relson"  wrote:

> I would have added, just in case the excellent advice previously given
> didn't pan out:
>
> You might well get a clue simply from the name of the load module, as
> "module prefixes" are pretty carefully managed by most.
> The prefix might not tell you all you want to know but will at least
> usually get you to the owning company who could then provide more granular
> info.
>
> I'm not sure how accessible to the general public is the list of module
> prefixes vs owning company, but the information is available as a last
> resort.
>
> Peter Relson
> z/OS Core Technology Design
>
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Re: Product name by module

[Peter]

Thanks all for a reply and that was very useful.

The LPAR has lot of Obsolete entry on LINKLST and APF.

So is there any product which can tell me which LINKLISTED or APFed dataset
are really used ?

Peter
On May 19, 2016 5:46 PM, "Peter Relson"  wrote:

> I would have added, just in case the excellent advice previously given
> didn't pan out:
>
> You might well get a clue simply from the name of the load module, as
> "module prefixes" are pretty carefully managed by most.
> The prefix might not tell you all you want to know but will at least
> usually get you to the owning company who could then provide more granular
> info.
>
> I'm not sure how accessible to the general public is the list of module
> prefixes vs owning company, but the information is available as a last
> resort.
>
> Peter Relson
> z/OS Core Technology Design
>
>
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Re: Product name by module

[Peter Relson]

I would have added, just in case the excellent advice previously given 
didn't pan out:

You might well get a clue simply from the name of the load module, as 
"module prefixes" are pretty carefully managed by most.
The prefix might not tell you all you want to know but will at least 
usually get you to the owning company who could then provide more granular 
info.

I'm not sure how accessible to the general public is the list of module 
prefixes vs owning company, but the information is available as a last 
resort.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design


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Re: Product name by module

[Edward Gould]

> On May 18, 2016, at 3:00 AM, Peter  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> One of the module shows me the below copyright but I do not see the product
> name.
> 
> EIRFUCB2V1R1M0  5706-110 (C) COPYRIGHT IBM CORP. 1990 19945706-110 (C)


The old Program product number is 5706-110 Try a google search or there used to 
be an IBM manual that listed all the PP #’s. IIRC it was a slim yellow (not 8.5 
by 11) manual. I used it all the time. Not sure if IBM kept it around.
Barring that ask your friendly IBMer.

Ed

> 
> Is there a Link within IBM which can help me to track ?
> 
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Edward Finnell <
> 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Just to refine what Elardus has recommended. You can turn on audit in RACF
>> and see who's hitting them.
>> Check PROCLIBs and SYSPROCs/SYSEXEC for occurrences. With ISRDDN check to
>> see if they're LINKLST'd or APFLST'd. In ISPF browse have the option to
>> sort
>> on  columns. Something like
>> 'SORT LNKED D|A' just to see if they've been actively modified.
>> 
>> 
>> In a message dated 5/18/2016 2:03:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>> elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes:
>> 
>> 
>> You  can buy expensive audit software which can scan your volsers for
>> unlicensed  software.
>> 
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Re: Product name by module

[Edward Gould]

> On May 18, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Ed Jaffe  wrote:
> 
> On 5/17/2016 9:56 PM, Peter wrote:
>> Is it always possible to identify the product name by looking through the
>> load modules.
> 
> No.
> 
>> Here in our shop there are some DATASET lying where we do not
>> have any clue to which product it belongs to.
>> 
>> Any pointers or ideas to know the product name by looking through the
>> module ?
> 
> Look for copyright information.

That is one way and a darn good one I might add another sometime effective was 
is to look at the IDR of the module. Some companies put information there .
Ed

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Re: Ancient software (Re: Product name by module)

[Edward Gould]

We had a CICS “application” that we were paying big bucks for . We did a 
similar thing but inserted code into the “application” that did a WTO . we 
scanned the syslogs daily and not once in 6 months was this “application” used. 
We took the empty logs to the user and said see you aren’t using it. They said 
otherwise. So we essentially did a br r14 into the code and waited another six 
months and went back to the user and asked if they were still using the 
application. They again said yes so we deleted the cics application and never 
brought it up again. The user never had a clue and we saved $60K (US) after 2 
years. We made sure management was aware of this and got their blessing. I 
don’t think they believed the user anymore after that. I wish I could have 
gotten 10 percent of the savings.

Ed
 
> On May 18, 2016, at 7:17 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht 
>  wrote:
> 
> Radowslaw Skorupka wrote:
> 
>> Of course I can imagine an answer like "we've been running this job for 15 
>> years, Frankie said it's important, but he retired 10 years ago, we don't 
>> know who's currently using it, nor what is the name of the application". ;-)
> 
> It was my unpleasant task to get rid of an expensive software suite, because 
> *all* are using it for many years and it is that *important*. The same as 
> Radoslaw said.
> 
> Really? The original person who maintained that software went away for a 
> better pay job overseas.
> 
> It was troublesome to even think of that removal story, because one of our 
> clients swore high and low they are *really* using it and ALL of its 
> connectors to the various database subsystems.
> 
> And they said *many* persons are using it.
> 
> I laid out a nasty trap to satisfy my bosses: 
> I used RACF WARNING and turned off those connectors. Nothing happened. I told 
> my boss what happened, we met up next month with the client. I showed my 
> proof, only ONE person is using it and NOT those connectors.
> 
> They relented. We then moved that software to a LPAR with 1 CPU allocated. 
> They complained about bad response time, etc. and eventually they used those 
> database own software to collect all the data they needed.
> 
> Next month my stats showed that NO ONE actually used that expensive software 
> suite.
> 
> Good. We notified the vendor that we drop them due to costs and no-one is 
> using it. They missed the boat in the sense they tried to persuade us to buy 
> a more EXPENSIVE suite. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
> 
> I believe many IBM-MAIN persons are sitting in the same boat. Getting rid of 
> ancient legacy (I hate that fancy word!) stuff because of costs and because 
> as one often said 'they're going off the mainframe'.
> 
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
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Re: Product name by module

[Ed Jaffe]

On 5/18/2016 1:00 AM, Peter wrote:

One of the module shows me the below copyright but I do not see the product
name.

EIRFUCB2V1R1M0  5706-110 (C) COPYRIGHT IBM CORP. 1990 19945706-110 (C)

Is there a Link within IBM which can help me to track ?


If you search IBM's web site for product number "5706-110" (which takes 
less time than writing an email to IBM-MAIN), you will find:



THE FOLLOWING RFAs HAVE BEEN ANNOUNCED:

 1.1  RFA 20691

 1.1.1  OfficeVision/2 V1 & OS/2 Features W/D From Mktg

 IBM  OfficeVision  Family - OfficeVision/2 and OS/2 Office Features 
Withdrawal

 from Marketing and Discontinuance of Program Services

 Effective May 23,  1994,  IBM  will  withdraw  from  marketing the  
following
 programs  licensed  under  the IBM Customer Agreement.  In addition, 
effective

 September 23, 1994 program services will be discontinued.

Program Number   Program Name Version
--    ---
5706-110 IBM OfficeVision/2  1


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Re: Product name by module

[Field, Alan]

In Servicelink there is a PCR (Product Cross Reference) option. Enter product 
number 5706-110.

Alan Field
Systems Engineer Principal
Blue Cross Blue Shield of MN

651.662.3546

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Subject: Re: Product name by module

Hi,

One of the module shows me the below copyright but I do not see the product 
name.

EIRFUCB2V1R1M0  5706-110 (C) COPYRIGHT IBM CORP. 1990 19945706-110 (C)

Is there a Link within IBM which can help me to track ?

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Edward Finnell < 
000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Just to refine what Elardus has recommended. You can turn on audit in 
> RACF and see who's hitting them.
> Check PROCLIBs and SYSPROCs/SYSEXEC for occurrences. With ISRDDN check 
> to see if they're LINKLST'd or APFLST'd. In ISPF browse have the 
> option to sort on  columns. Something like 'SORT LNKED D|A' just to 
> see if they've been actively modified.
>
>
> In a message dated 5/18/2016 2:03:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes:
>
>
> You  can buy expensive audit software which can scan your volsers for 
> unlicensed  software.
>
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Re: Product name by module

[Staller, Allan]

From the eye catcher below, the IBM product ID is 5706-110. 
Seaching IBM.COM show this to be part of Office Vision.

AFAIK, Office Vision has not been offered or supported for many years.

HTH,


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Ancient software (Re: Product name by module)

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Radowslaw Skorupka wrote:

>Of course I can imagine an answer like "we've been running this job for 15 
>years, Frankie said it's important, but he retired 10 years ago, we don't know 
>who's currently using it, nor what is the name of the application". ;-)

It was my unpleasant task to get rid of an expensive software suite, because 
*all* are using it for many years and it is that *important*. The same as 
Radoslaw said.

Really? The original person who maintained that software went away for a better 
pay job overseas.

It was troublesome to even think of that removal story, because one of our 
clients swore high and low they are *really* using it and ALL of its connectors 
to the various database subsystems.

And they said *many* persons are using it.

I laid out a nasty trap to satisfy my bosses: 
I used RACF WARNING and turned off those connectors. Nothing happened. I told 
my boss what happened, we met up next month with the client. I showed my proof, 
only ONE person is using it and NOT those connectors.

They relented. We then moved that software to a LPAR with 1 CPU allocated. They 
complained about bad response time, etc. and eventually they used those 
database own software to collect all the data they needed.

Next month my stats showed that NO ONE actually used that expensive software 
suite.

Good. We notified the vendor that we drop them due to costs and no-one is using 
it. They missed the boat in the sense they tried to persuade us to buy a more 
EXPENSIVE suite. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

I believe many IBM-MAIN persons are sitting in the same boat. Getting rid of 
ancient legacy (I hate that fancy word!) stuff because of costs and because as 
one often said 'they're going off the mainframe'.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Product name by module

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote:

>Peter has some cleanup to do: 

Indeed! Unless that thing is printing your payslips...

>In addition, effective September 23, 1994 program services will be 
>discontinued. 
> Program Number   Program Name Version 
> --    --- 
> 5706-110 IBM OfficeVision/2  1 

Wow! That's really ancient software. Did T-Rex roamed MVS/XA and MVS/ESA world 
in that time? ;-)

Groete / Greetings
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Re: Product name by module

[Edward Finnell]

Tied to a Display writer in the basement that only does one thing-print  
payroll checks! 
 
 
In a message dated 5/18/2016 4:09:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl writes:

Frankie  said it's important, but he retired 10 years ago, we 
don't know who's  currently using it, nor what is the name of the 
application".  ;-)


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Re: Product name by module

[R.S.]

Wild thought:
The product is either in use or not used.
For the second case you simply delete it (of course after you're sure 
it's no longer in use)
For the first case you will see jobname, userid, some department, input, 
output - the clues who's using it, what's doing, etc.


Of course I can imagine an answer like "we've been running this job for 
15 years, Frankie said it's important, but he retired 10 years ago, we 
don't know who's currently using it, nor what is the name of the 
application". ;-)


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Re: Product name by module

[Peter]

Hi,

Thank you so much. I was able to track the Product based on Program Number

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:40 PM, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM <
kees.verno...@klm.com> wrote:

> You were just ahead of me.
> Man, Peter has some cleanup to do:
> "
> In addition, effective
>   September 23, 1994 program services will be discontinued.
>
>  Program Number   Program Name Version
>  --    ---
>  5706-110 IBM OfficeVision/2  1
> "
>
> Kees.
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Lucas Rosalen
> Sent: 18 May, 2016 10:07
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Product name by module
>
> There is a link indeed, but not withing IBM: google :)
> I've found something about this product number:
>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=an=ca=gpateam=899=ENUSLL94-0009
>
> Another tip is: check the strange loadlib names in your scheduling
> software's JCL lib. If you are lucky enough, there could be comments in the
> JCLs (if any uses this/these product(s)).
>
> Regards,
>
> ---
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> 2016-05-18 10:00 GMT+02:00 Peter <dbajava...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > One of the module shows me the below copyright but I do not see the
> product
> > name.
> >
> > EIRFUCB2V1R1M0  5706-110 (C) COPYRIGHT IBM CORP. 1990 19945706-110 (C)
> >
> > Is there a Link within IBM which can help me to track ?
> >
> > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Edward Finnell <
> > 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > Just to refine what Elardus has recommended. You can turn on audit in
> > RACF
> > > and see who's hitting them.
> > > Check PROCLIBs and SYSPROCs/SYSEXEC for occurrences. With ISRDDN check
> to
> > > see if they're LINKLST'd or APFLST'd. In ISPF browse have the option to
> > > sort
> > > on  columns. Something like
> > > 'SORT LNKED D|A' just to see if they've been actively modified.
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 5/18/2016 2:03:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > > elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes:
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[Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM]

You were just ahead of me. 
Man, Peter has some cleanup to do:
"
In addition, effective
  September 23, 1994 program services will be discontinued.

 Program Number   Program Name Version
 --    ---
 5706-110 IBM OfficeVision/2  1
"

Kees.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Lucas Rosalen
Sent: 18 May, 2016 10:07
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Product name by module

There is a link indeed, but not withing IBM: google :)
I've found something about this product number:
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=an=ca=gpateam=899=ENUSLL94-0009

Another tip is: check the strange loadlib names in your scheduling
software's JCL lib. If you are lucky enough, there could be comments in the
JCLs (if any uses this/these product(s)).

Regards,
---
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2016-05-18 10:00 GMT+02:00 Peter <dbajava...@gmail.com>:

> Hi,
>
> One of the module shows me the below copyright but I do not see the product
> name.
>
> EIRFUCB2V1R1M0  5706-110 (C) COPYRIGHT IBM CORP. 1990 19945706-110 (C)
>
> Is there a Link within IBM which can help me to track ?
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Edward Finnell <
> 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > Just to refine what Elardus has recommended. You can turn on audit in
> RACF
> > and see who's hitting them.
> > Check PROCLIBs and SYSPROCs/SYSEXEC for occurrences. With ISRDDN check to
> > see if they're LINKLST'd or APFLST'd. In ISPF browse have the option to
> > sort
> > on  columns. Something like
> > 'SORT LNKED D|A' just to see if they've been actively modified.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 5/18/2016 2:03:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes:
> >
> >
> > You  can buy expensive audit software which can scan your volsers for
> > unlicensed  software.
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Re: Product name by module

[Lucas Rosalen]

There is a link indeed, but not withing IBM: google :)
I've found something about this product number:
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=an=ca=gpateam=899=ENUSLL94-0009

Another tip is: check the strange loadlib names in your scheduling
software's JCL lib. If you are lucky enough, there could be comments in the
JCLs (if any uses this/these product(s)).

Regards,
---
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*
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Phone: +48 (71) 792 809 198


2016-05-18 10:00 GMT+02:00 Peter :

> Hi,
>
> One of the module shows me the below copyright but I do not see the product
> name.
>
> EIRFUCB2V1R1M0  5706-110 (C) COPYRIGHT IBM CORP. 1990 19945706-110 (C)
>
> Is there a Link within IBM which can help me to track ?
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Edward Finnell <
> 000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > Just to refine what Elardus has recommended. You can turn on audit in
> RACF
> > and see who's hitting them.
> > Check PROCLIBs and SYSPROCs/SYSEXEC for occurrences. With ISRDDN check to
> > see if they're LINKLST'd or APFLST'd. In ISPF browse have the option to
> > sort
> > on  columns. Something like
> > 'SORT LNKED D|A' just to see if they've been actively modified.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 5/18/2016 2:03:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes:
> >
> >
> > You  can buy expensive audit software which can scan your volsers for
> > unlicensed  software.
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Re: Product name by module

[Peter]

Hi,

One of the module shows me the below copyright but I do not see the product
name.

EIRFUCB2V1R1M0  5706-110 (C) COPYRIGHT IBM CORP. 1990 19945706-110 (C)

Is there a Link within IBM which can help me to track ?

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Edward Finnell <
000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Just to refine what Elardus has recommended. You can turn on audit in RACF
> and see who's hitting them.
> Check PROCLIBs and SYSPROCs/SYSEXEC for occurrences. With ISRDDN check to
> see if they're LINKLST'd or APFLST'd. In ISPF browse have the option to
> sort
> on  columns. Something like
> 'SORT LNKED D|A' just to see if they've been actively modified.
>
>
> In a message dated 5/18/2016 2:03:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes:
>
>
> You  can buy expensive audit software which can scan your volsers for
> unlicensed  software.
>
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Re: Product name by module

[Edward Finnell]

Just to refine what Elardus has recommended. You can turn on audit in RACF  
and see who's hitting them.
Check PROCLIBs and SYSPROCs/SYSEXEC for occurrences. With ISRDDN check to  
see if they're LINKLST'd or APFLST'd. In ISPF browse have the option to sort 
on  columns. Something like 
'SORT LNKED D|A' just to see if they've been actively modified.
 
 
In a message dated 5/18/2016 2:03:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes:


You  can buy expensive audit software which can scan your volsers for 
unlicensed  software.

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Re: Product name by module

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Peter wrote:

>Is it always possible to identify the product name by looking through the load 
>modules. 

Ed Jaffe gave you a good answer.


>Here in our shop there are some DATASET lying where we do not have any clue to 
>which product it belongs to.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Too bad. Too sad. Use RACF to lockup those datasets. Wait until 
someone screams. [1] Until then, use SMF to check who is using what datasets.


>Any pointers or ideas to know the product name by looking through the module ?

Easy if they're from IBM. As Ed said, look at copyright statements and also 
look at eye-catchers.


>Any suggestions or ideas would help me to research further.

You can buy expensive audit software which can scan your volsers for unlicensed 
software.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

[1] - Careful with that. You may get a pavement promotion...

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Re: Product name by module

[Ed Jaffe]

On 5/17/2016 9:56 PM, Peter wrote:

Is it always possible to identify the product name by looking through the
load modules.


No.


Here in our shop there are some DATASET lying where we do not
have any clue to which product it belongs to.

Any pointers or ideas to know the product name by looking through the
module ?


Look for copyright information.

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Product name by module

[Peter]

Hello

Is it always possible to identify the product name by looking through the
load modules. Here in our shop there are some DATASET lying where we do not
have any clue to which product it belongs to.

Any pointers or ideas to know the product name by looking through the
module ?

Any suggestions or ideas would help me to research further.

Peter

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