Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Moron of the day -- me!

2021-11-30 Thread Pommier, Rex


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On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 20:07:08 +, Pommier, Rex  wrote:

>I always took the NOT CATALOGED 2 as meaning "I'm not cataloging this 
>dataset because then there would be 2 of them in the catalog which 
>can't happen".  :-)
>
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Enough, already?  (Actually, 2 much.)

I loathe messages such as this in which "2" could indicate any of 5 different 
explanations.  They should have distinct reason codes.

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Hmm, learned something new.   Guess I never bothered looking up the message 
since I knew it meant there was one already cataloged.  

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Moron of the day -- me!

2021-11-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 20:07:08 +, Pommier, Rex  wrote:

>I always took the NOT CATALOGED 2 as meaning "I'm not cataloging this dataset 
>because then there would be 2 of them in the catalog which can't happen".  :-)
>


Enough, already?  (Actually, 2 much.)

I loathe messages such as this in which "2" could indicate any of 5 different
explanations.  They should have distinct reason codes.

-- gil

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Moron of the day -- me!

2021-11-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
I always took the NOT CATALOGED 2 as meaning "I'm not cataloging this dataset 
because then there would be 2 of them in the catalog which can't happen".  :-)

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NOT CATALOGED 2 always got me. Did that mean "NOT CATALOGED TOO"  If so, why 
not, "ALSO NOT CATLOGED".



On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 1:37 AM Mike Shorkend 
wrote:

> The syntax is
>
>
> PA {[PAGE=]}{dsname[,dsname]...}
>{NONVIO=}
>
> So if I specified PA PAGE='SYS1.LOCAL,PAGE09' I would either expect 
> the dataset enclosed in the quotes to be used or, get a message 
> indicating that a quote was found instead of a dsname.
>
> As for the PMR(if I remember correctly, this was back in the 1990s), 
> the IBM support person pointed out the error to me.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 at 15:28, Paul Gilmartin < 
> 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:06:47 +0200, Mike Shorkend  wrote:
> >
> > >My moment must have been when I wanted to add a page dataset and I
> > enclosed
> > >the name of the dataset in quotes. To my defence, to this day, it
> throws a
> > >'NOT CATALGUED' condition and not a syntax error as might be expected.
> > >
> > What syntax error would you expect?
> >
> > It's a horrible design.  Quotes should simply mean that the enclosed 
> > DSN is to be taken verbatim; whenever VOL or UNIT is unavailable the 
> > catalog should be searched.
> >
> > >had to open a PMR to get it straightened...
> > >
> > What was the  disposition of that PMR?
> >
> > -- gil
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