Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments
Yes. Even though i couldn't find a specific article that gives step-by-step directions, I was able to find a lot of information on tuning where it covers all the points we discussed . Anyways , thanks a lot for your help . I truly appreciate the time and effort of all experts in IBM MAIN On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In CALt2WMaOYK_y6EBdFeB1pYXZytP8darDy6UT3En+d3wx=ih...@mail.gmail.com, on 03/03/2015 at 09:24 AM, baby eklavya baby.ekla...@gmail.com said: Apologize for asking a dumb question . Since i have not worked with WLM before . The only dumb question is the one that I should have asked but didn't. Since you already RYFM, it's perfectly appropriate to ask here. Do i have to install the service definition again and activate it ? My recollection is that you must activate it again. I'm not able to see exact steps documented . Any pointers or guidance would really help Have you looked at any of the Samson or Watson articles on tuning? I'd be surprised if they didn't have step-by-step directions somewhere. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 14:25:51 +0530, baby eklavya wrote: Yes. Even though i couldn't find a specific article that gives step-by-step directions, I was able to find a lot of information on tuning where it covers all the points we discussed . It's unlikely you'll find every possible option itemised to the level Kees did for you. Certain amount of extrapolation expected methinks. The whole design of the WLM ISPF application is appalling when viewed from todays vantage. We've discussed this before. The z/OSMF plugin may cure the world - others will have to comment on that. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments
Thank you Shane . So , to summarize a) I need to start with option 2 - extract definition from WLm couple dataset b) make the changes (adding the scheduling environment) c) Install the service definition from utilities menu bar ans specify overwrite existing service definition d) Activate the policy Am i missing anything ? On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:24:30 +0530, baby eklavya wrote: Do i have to install the service definition again and activate it ? Yes. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments
Great !!! Thanks a lot Kees :) On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: If you can't find a procedure, you can define one: 1. Extract the definition from the couple dataset 2. File-Save as: save this service definition to a dataset, creating your service definition naming convention. 3. Change, Install and Activate your modifications. 4. File-Save as: save this service definition according to your naming conventions. In case of problems you can: 1. Select: Read a saved definition on the WLM startup panel, reading the fallback version. 2. Install and activate this one. Then you can: 1. Read a saved definition on the WLM startup panel, reading the definition you want to change. 2. Install and activate this definition 3. Save it back to the dataset. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of baby eklavya Sent: 03 March, 2015 11:22 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments Yes.. that's very true . Thank you Kees for pointing that out .. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: And another thing: how do you fallback to the old Service Definition when your modifications appear to be wrong? You must have saved this previous version somewhere, probably there is an aging mechanism in the saved Service Definitions. Kees. -Original Message- From: Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM Sent: 03 March, 2015 10:29 To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: RE: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments Probably yes, but you should try to find your local procedures. I assume the definitions will also be saved in a dataset, for backup purposes, or for transporting it to other sysplexes. Or maybe the dataset is the source of the Service Definition, which you modify, save again and then Install and Activate. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of baby eklavya Sent: 03 March, 2015 10:18 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments Thank you Shane . So , to summarize a) I need to start with option 2 - extract definition from WLm couple dataset b) make the changes (adding the scheduling environment) c) Install the service definition from utilities menu bar ans specify overwrite existing service definition d) Activate the policy Am i missing anything ? On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:24:30 +0530, baby eklavya wrote: Do i have to install the service definition again and activate it ? Yes. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail
Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments
In CALt2WMaOYK_y6EBdFeB1pYXZytP8darDy6UT3En+d3wx=ih...@mail.gmail.com, on 03/03/2015 at 09:24 AM, baby eklavya baby.ekla...@gmail.com said: Apologize for asking a dumb question . Since i have not worked with WLM before . The only dumb question is the one that I should have asked but didn't. Since you already RYFM, it's perfectly appropriate to ask here. Do i have to install the service definition again and activate it ? My recollection is that you must activate it again. I'm not able to see exact steps documented . Any pointers or guidance would really help Have you looked at any of the Samson or Watson articles on tuning? I'd be surprised if they didn't have step-by-step directions somewhere. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments
Yes.. that's very true . Thank you Kees for pointing that out .. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: And another thing: how do you fallback to the old Service Definition when your modifications appear to be wrong? You must have saved this previous version somewhere, probably there is an aging mechanism in the saved Service Definitions. Kees. -Original Message- From: Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM Sent: 03 March, 2015 10:29 To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: RE: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments Probably yes, but you should try to find your local procedures. I assume the definitions will also be saved in a dataset, for backup purposes, or for transporting it to other sysplexes. Or maybe the dataset is the source of the Service Definition, which you modify, save again and then Install and Activate. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of baby eklavya Sent: 03 March, 2015 10:18 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments Thank you Shane . So , to summarize a) I need to start with option 2 - extract definition from WLm couple dataset b) make the changes (adding the scheduling environment) c) Install the service definition from utilities menu bar ans specify overwrite existing service definition d) Activate the policy Am i missing anything ? On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:24:30 +0530, baby eklavya wrote: Do i have to install the service definition again and activate it ? Yes. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments
If you can't find a procedure, you can define one: 1. Extract the definition from the couple dataset 2. File-Save as: save this service definition to a dataset, creating your service definition naming convention. 3. Change, Install and Activate your modifications. 4. File-Save as: save this service definition according to your naming conventions. In case of problems you can: 1. Select: Read a saved definition on the WLM startup panel, reading the fallback version. 2. Install and activate this one. Then you can: 1. Read a saved definition on the WLM startup panel, reading the definition you want to change. 2. Install and activate this definition 3. Save it back to the dataset. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of baby eklavya Sent: 03 March, 2015 11:22 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments Yes.. that's very true . Thank you Kees for pointing that out .. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: And another thing: how do you fallback to the old Service Definition when your modifications appear to be wrong? You must have saved this previous version somewhere, probably there is an aging mechanism in the saved Service Definitions. Kees. -Original Message- From: Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM Sent: 03 March, 2015 10:29 To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: RE: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments Probably yes, but you should try to find your local procedures. I assume the definitions will also be saved in a dataset, for backup purposes, or for transporting it to other sysplexes. Or maybe the dataset is the source of the Service Definition, which you modify, save again and then Install and Activate. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of baby eklavya Sent: 03 March, 2015 10:18 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments Thank you Shane . So , to summarize a) I need to start with option 2 - extract definition from WLm couple dataset b) make the changes (adding the scheduling environment) c) Install the service definition from utilities menu bar ans specify overwrite existing service definition d) Activate the policy Am i missing anything ? On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:24:30 +0530, baby eklavya wrote: Do i have to install the service definition again and activate it ? Yes. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed
Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments
Probably yes, but you should try to find your local procedures. I assume the definitions will also be saved in a dataset, for backup purposes, or for transporting it to other sysplexes. Or maybe the dataset is the source of the Service Definition, which you modify, save again and then Install and Activate. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of baby eklavya Sent: 03 March, 2015 10:18 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments Thank you Shane . So , to summarize a) I need to start with option 2 - extract definition from WLm couple dataset b) make the changes (adding the scheduling environment) c) Install the service definition from utilities menu bar ans specify overwrite existing service definition d) Activate the policy Am i missing anything ? On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:24:30 +0530, baby eklavya wrote: Do i have to install the service definition again and activate it ? Yes. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments
And another thing: how do you fallback to the old Service Definition when your modifications appear to be wrong? You must have saved this previous version somewhere, probably there is an aging mechanism in the saved Service Definitions. Kees. -Original Message- From: Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM Sent: 03 March, 2015 10:29 To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: RE: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments Probably yes, but you should try to find your local procedures. I assume the definitions will also be saved in a dataset, for backup purposes, or for transporting it to other sysplexes. Or maybe the dataset is the source of the Service Definition, which you modify, save again and then Install and Activate. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of baby eklavya Sent: 03 March, 2015 10:18 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments Thank you Shane . So , to summarize a) I need to start with option 2 - extract definition from WLm couple dataset b) make the changes (adding the scheduling environment) c) Install the service definition from utilities menu bar ans specify overwrite existing service definition d) Activate the policy Am i missing anything ? On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:24:30 +0530, baby eklavya wrote: Do i have to install the service definition again and activate it ? Yes. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dumb WLM question - Scheduling environments
On Tue, 3 Mar 2015 09:24:30 +0530, baby eklavya wrote: Do i have to install the service definition again and activate it ? Yes. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
