Re: RENT binder option - note of thanks!
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On 07/09/2021 22:53, Mike Hochee wrote:
> My intent was definitely not offend anyone with my last post, and if I did
> so, apologies extended.
>
> I view IBM-MAIN as an extremely valuable technical resource. When I perceive
> it being used as a vehicle for one-upmanship it is frustrating, hence my
> strong language. I will try to watch that in any future posts.
>
> Mike
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> To paraphrase Juvenal, "sed quis custodit ipsos custodes?" ("but who guards
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> On 06/09/2021 21:15, Mike Hochee wrote:
>> Just a word of thanks to the IBM heavyweights (Jim, Peter, Sri, et. al.) to
>> whom a debt of gratitude is owed for their deep-water expertise, patience,
>> and willingness to share knowledge when they undoubtedly have many other
>> things to work on.
>>
>> I suspect there are many subscriber motivations for posting on this forum,
>> some obvious and simple: wrestling with a problem for days and pulling hair
>> out, making known a potentially serious 'gotcha', or 'Hey, that happened to
>> me!' and therefore sharing the love. There are undoubtedly other motivations
>> for posting that are not so obvious, and disappointingly some of these often
>> muddy the waters and result in very large waste-of-time threads for the vast
>> majority of subscribers, but might however serve to satisfy the personal and
>> non-technical needs of a few folks.
>>
>> Charles' suggestion of a 'Like' button hit the nail on the head. A mechanism
>> for informing personally needy folks that they are no longer enlightening,
>> but instead engaging in an unwelcome behavior. Yes, they did play well with
>> others for a while, but eventually felt a compelling need to make love to
>> their egos in a public forum, a forum designed to assist folks with deeper
>> technical issues.
>>
>> The downside is often evidenced by a dozens of emails rather than 5 or 10.
>> A much more serious downside is that the patience of our excellent IBM
>> resources might eventually wear thin, I know mine would.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Mike
>>
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Re: RENT binder option - note of thanks!
My intent was definitely not offend anyone with my last post, and if I did so,
apologies extended.
I view IBM-MAIN as an extremely valuable technical resource. When I perceive it
being used as a vehicle for one-upmanship it is frustrating, hence my strong
language. I will try to watch that in any future posts.
Mike
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Of CM Poncelet
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Subject: Re: RENT binder option - note of thanks!
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To paraphrase Juvenal, "sed quis custodit ipsos custodes?" ("but who guards the
guards themselves?")
On 06/09/2021 21:15, Mike Hochee wrote:
> Just a word of thanks to the IBM heavyweights (Jim, Peter, Sri, et. al.) to
> whom a debt of gratitude is owed for their deep-water expertise, patience,
> and willingness to share knowledge when they undoubtedly have many other
> things to work on.
>
> I suspect there are many subscriber motivations for posting on this forum,
> some obvious and simple: wrestling with a problem for days and pulling hair
> out, making known a potentially serious 'gotcha', or 'Hey, that happened to
> me!' and therefore sharing the love. There are undoubtedly other motivations
> for posting that are not so obvious, and disappointingly some of these often
> muddy the waters and result in very large waste-of-time threads for the vast
> majority of subscribers, but might however serve to satisfy the personal and
> non-technical needs of a few folks.
>
> Charles' suggestion of a 'Like' button hit the nail on the head. A mechanism
> for informing personally needy folks that they are no longer enlightening,
> but instead engaging in an unwelcome behavior. Yes, they did play well with
> others for a while, but eventually felt a compelling need to make love to
> their egos in a public forum, a forum designed to assist folks with deeper
> technical issues.
>
> The downside is often evidenced by a dozens of emails rather than 5 or 10. A
> much more serious downside is that the patience of our excellent IBM
> resources might eventually wear thin, I know mine would.
>
> HTH,
> Mike
>
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Re: RENT binder option - note of thanks!
To paraphrase Juvenal, "sed quis custodit ipsos custodes?" ("but who
guards the guards themselves?")
On 06/09/2021 21:15, Mike Hochee wrote:
> Just a word of thanks to the IBM heavyweights (Jim, Peter, Sri, et. al.) to
> whom a debt of gratitude is owed for their deep-water expertise, patience,
> and willingness to share knowledge when they undoubtedly have many other
> things to work on.
>
> I suspect there are many subscriber motivations for posting on this forum,
> some obvious and simple: wrestling with a problem for days and pulling hair
> out, making known a potentially serious 'gotcha', or 'Hey, that happened to
> me!' and therefore sharing the love. There are undoubtedly other motivations
> for posting that are not so obvious, and disappointingly some of these often
> muddy the waters and result in very large waste-of-time threads for the vast
> majority of subscribers, but might however serve to satisfy the personal and
> non-technical needs of a few folks.
>
> Charles' suggestion of a 'Like' button hit the nail on the head. A mechanism
> for informing personally needy folks that they are no longer enlightening,
> but instead engaging in an unwelcome behavior. Yes, they did play well with
> others for a while, but eventually felt a compelling need to make love to
> their egos in a public forum, a forum designed to assist folks with deeper
> technical issues.
>
> The downside is often evidenced by a dozens of emails rather than 5 or 10. A
> much more serious downside is that the patience of our excellent IBM
> resources might eventually wear thin, I know mine would.
>
> HTH,
> Mike
>
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Re: RENT binder option - note of thanks!
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Re: RENT binder option - note of thanks!
Doh... Like count = Like count + 1 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lennie Bradshaw Sent: 07 September 2021 00:06 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RENT binder option - note of thanks! Like count = Link count + 1 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: 06 September 2021 22:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RENT binder option - note of thanks! Like count=1 On 9/6/2021 1:15 PM, Mike Hochee wrote: > Just a word of thanks to the IBM heavyweights (Jim, Peter, Sri, et. al.) to > whom a debt of gratitude is owed for their deep-water expertise, patience, > and willingness to share knowledge when they undoubtedly have many other > things to work on. > > I suspect there are many subscriber motivations for posting on this forum, > some obvious and simple: wrestling with a problem for days and pulling hair > out, making known a potentially serious 'gotcha', or 'Hey, that happened to > me!' and therefore sharing the love. There are undoubtedly other motivations > for posting that are not so obvious, and disappointingly some of these often > muddy the waters and result in very large waste-of-time threads for the vast > majority of subscribers, but might however serve to satisfy the personal and > non-technical needs of a few folks. > > Charles' suggestion of a 'Like' button hit the nail on the head. A mechanism > for informing personally needy folks that they are no longer enlightening, > but instead engaging in an unwelcome behavior. Yes, they did play well with > others for a while, but eventually felt a compelling need to make love to > their egos in a public forum, a forum designed to assist folks with deeper > technical issues. > > The downside is often evidenced by a dozens of emails rather than 5 or 10. A > much more serious downside is that the patience of our excellent IBM > resources might eventually wear thin, I know mine would. > > HTH, > Mike > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN . > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: RENT binder option - note of thanks!
Like count = Link count + 1 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Brennan Sent: 06 September 2021 22:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: RENT binder option - note of thanks! Like count=1 On 9/6/2021 1:15 PM, Mike Hochee wrote: > Just a word of thanks to the IBM heavyweights (Jim, Peter, Sri, et. al.) to > whom a debt of gratitude is owed for their deep-water expertise, patience, > and willingness to share knowledge when they undoubtedly have many other > things to work on. > > I suspect there are many subscriber motivations for posting on this forum, > some obvious and simple: wrestling with a problem for days and pulling hair > out, making known a potentially serious 'gotcha', or 'Hey, that happened to > me!' and therefore sharing the love. There are undoubtedly other motivations > for posting that are not so obvious, and disappointingly some of these often > muddy the waters and result in very large waste-of-time threads for the vast > majority of subscribers, but might however serve to satisfy the personal and > non-technical needs of a few folks. > > Charles' suggestion of a 'Like' button hit the nail on the head. A mechanism > for informing personally needy folks that they are no longer enlightening, > but instead engaging in an unwelcome behavior. Yes, they did play well with > others for a while, but eventually felt a compelling need to make love to > their egos in a public forum, a forum designed to assist folks with deeper > technical issues. > > The downside is often evidenced by a dozens of emails rather than 5 or 10. A > much more serious downside is that the patience of our excellent IBM > resources might eventually wear thin, I know mine would. > > HTH, > Mike > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN . > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: RENT binder option - note of thanks!
Like count=1 On 9/6/2021 1:15 PM, Mike Hochee wrote: Just a word of thanks to the IBM heavyweights (Jim, Peter, Sri, et. al.) to whom a debt of gratitude is owed for their deep-water expertise, patience, and willingness to share knowledge when they undoubtedly have many other things to work on. I suspect there are many subscriber motivations for posting on this forum, some obvious and simple: wrestling with a problem for days and pulling hair out, making known a potentially serious 'gotcha', or 'Hey, that happened to me!' and therefore sharing the love. There are undoubtedly other motivations for posting that are not so obvious, and disappointingly some of these often muddy the waters and result in very large waste-of-time threads for the vast majority of subscribers, but might however serve to satisfy the personal and non-technical needs of a few folks. Charles' suggestion of a 'Like' button hit the nail on the head. A mechanism for informing personally needy folks that they are no longer enlightening, but instead engaging in an unwelcome behavior. Yes, they did play well with others for a while, but eventually felt a compelling need to make love to their egos in a public forum, a forum designed to assist folks with deeper technical issues. The downside is often evidenced by a dozens of emails rather than 5 or 10. A much more serious downside is that the patience of our excellent IBM resources might eventually wear thin, I know mine would. HTH, Mike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: RENT binder option - note of thanks!
Just a word of thanks to the IBM heavyweights (Jim, Peter, Sri, et. al.) to whom a debt of gratitude is owed for their deep-water expertise, patience, and willingness to share knowledge when they undoubtedly have many other things to work on. I suspect there are many subscriber motivations for posting on this forum, some obvious and simple: wrestling with a problem for days and pulling hair out, making known a potentially serious 'gotcha', or 'Hey, that happened to me!' and therefore sharing the love. There are undoubtedly other motivations for posting that are not so obvious, and disappointingly some of these often muddy the waters and result in very large waste-of-time threads for the vast majority of subscribers, but might however serve to satisfy the personal and non-technical needs of a few folks. Charles' suggestion of a 'Like' button hit the nail on the head. A mechanism for informing personally needy folks that they are no longer enlightening, but instead engaging in an unwelcome behavior. Yes, they did play well with others for a while, but eventually felt a compelling need to make love to their egos in a public forum, a forum designed to assist folks with deeper technical issues. The downside is often evidenced by a dozens of emails rather than 5 or 10. A much more serious downside is that the patience of our excellent IBM resources might eventually wear thin, I know mine would. HTH, Mike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
