Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

2016-03-26 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson 
I installed and tested UO01807 . It fixed the problem. 

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Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 9:45 AM
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Subject: Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

Fixing PTF UO01807 is available today. Final APAR text also explains why you 
get 'Welcome to SMP/E' the first time you try split screen. Same cause as empty 
CSI list.


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Of Jesse 1 Robinson
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Subject: Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

IO24370 has closed PER. PTFs forthcoming. 



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Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:57 AM
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Subject: Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

IBM has taken APAR IO24370 for this problem. 




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Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:46 PM
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Subject: Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

I've conjured up an init Rexx that more or less handles the file allocations. 
However both Tom Conley and I independently uncovered an actual (APARable) 
problem with the candidate CSI list on the second (split) screen, which is 
displayed if the CSI name is blank. I've submitted an SR at Kurt's suggestion. 
More to follow. 




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Subject: (External):Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

On 3/8/2016 3:54 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
> I'm finally in a position to explore SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1. 
> 'Forever' I've had an exec that allocates SMP/E libraries, does LIBDEFs, 
> ALTLIB, etc., then undoes all that on the way out. The same initialization 
> exec won't work in split screen mode because of files that are already 
> allocated and/or open in the original screen. I got around initialization 
> with some changes, but I still get nastygrams if I try to exit the dialog in 
> the same order. That is, close the first screen, then the second.
>
> I poked around the interweb but do not find any clear example of how to make 
> this work. Am I missing something obvious?
>


Skip,

You'll just have to use REUSE on SMPTLIB and leave it allocated.  I have had a 
hard time solving this one.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

2016-03-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson 
Fixing PTF UO01807 is available today. Final APAR text also explains why you 
get 'Welcome to SMP/E' the first time you try split screen. Same cause as empty 
CSI list.

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-302-7535 Office
robin...@sce.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2016 9:27 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

IO24370 has closed PER. PTFs forthcoming. 



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2016 7:57 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

IBM has taken APAR IO24370 for this problem. 




-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

I've conjured up an init Rexx that more or less handles the file allocations. 
However both Tom Conley and I independently uncovered an actual (APARable) 
problem with the candidate CSI list on the second (split) screen, which is 
displayed if the CSI name is blank. I've submitted an SR at Kurt's suggestion. 
More to follow. 




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Subject: (External):Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

On 3/8/2016 3:54 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
> I'm finally in a position to explore SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1. 
> 'Forever' I've had an exec that allocates SMP/E libraries, does LIBDEFs, 
> ALTLIB, etc., then undoes all that on the way out. The same initialization 
> exec won't work in split screen mode because of files that are already 
> allocated and/or open in the original screen. I got around initialization 
> with some changes, but I still get nastygrams if I try to exit the dialog in 
> the same order. That is, close the first screen, then the second.
>
> I poked around the interweb but do not find any clear example of how to make 
> this work. Am I missing something obvious?
>


Skip,

You'll just have to use REUSE on SMPTLIB and leave it allocated.  I have had a 
hard time solving this one.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

2016-03-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson 
IBM has taken APAR IO24370 for this problem. 

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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
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robin...@sce.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

I've conjured up an init Rexx that more or less handles the file allocations. 
However both Tom Conley and I independently uncovered an actual (APARable) 
problem with the candidate CSI list on the second (split) screen, which is 
displayed if the CSI name is blank. I've submitted an SR at Kurt's suggestion. 
More to follow. 

.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-302-7535 Office
robin...@sce.com


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Of Pinnacle
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 1:59 PM
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Subject: (External):Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

On 3/8/2016 3:54 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
> I'm finally in a position to explore SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1. 
> 'Forever' I've had an exec that allocates SMP/E libraries, does LIBDEFs, 
> ALTLIB, etc., then undoes all that on the way out. The same initialization 
> exec won't work in split screen mode because of files that are already 
> allocated and/or open in the original screen. I got around initialization 
> with some changes, but I still get nastygrams if I try to exit the dialog in 
> the same order. That is, close the first screen, then the second.
>
> I poked around the interweb but do not find any clear example of how to make 
> this work. Am I missing something obvious?
>


Skip,

You'll just have to use REUSE on SMPTLIB and leave it allocated.  I have had a 
hard time solving this one.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

2016-03-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson 
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J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Jesse 1 Robinson
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

I've conjured up an init Rexx that more or less handles the file allocations. 
However both Tom Conley and I independently uncovered an actual (APARable) 
problem with the candidate CSI list on the second (split) screen, which is 
displayed if the CSI name is blank. I've submitted an SR at Kurt's suggestion. 
More to follow. 

.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-302-7535 Office
robin...@sce.com


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Pinnacle
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 1:59 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

On 3/8/2016 3:54 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
> I'm finally in a position to explore SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1. 
> 'Forever' I've had an exec that allocates SMP/E libraries, does LIBDEFs, 
> ALTLIB, etc., then undoes all that on the way out. The same initialization 
> exec won't work in split screen mode because of files that are already 
> allocated and/or open in the original screen. I got around initialization 
> with some changes, but I still get nastygrams if I try to exit the dialog in 
> the same order. That is, close the first screen, then the second.
>
> I poked around the interweb but do not find any clear example of how to make 
> this work. Am I missing something obvious?
>


Skip,

You'll just have to use REUSE on SMPTLIB and leave it allocated.  I have had a 
hard time solving this one.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

2016-03-10 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson 
I've conjured up an init Rexx that more or less handles the file allocations. 
However both Tom Conley and I independently uncovered an actual (APARable) 
problem with the candidate CSI list on the second (split) screen, which is 
displayed if the CSI name is blank. I've submitted an SR at Kurt's suggestion. 
More to follow. 

.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-302-7535 Office
robin...@sce.com


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Pinnacle
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2016 1:59 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

On 3/8/2016 3:54 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
> I'm finally in a position to explore SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1. 
> 'Forever' I've had an exec that allocates SMP/E libraries, does LIBDEFs, 
> ALTLIB, etc., then undoes all that on the way out. The same initialization 
> exec won't work in split screen mode because of files that are already 
> allocated and/or open in the original screen. I got around initialization 
> with some changes, but I still get nastygrams if I try to exit the dialog in 
> the same order. That is, close the first screen, then the second.
>
> I poked around the interweb but do not find any clear example of how to make 
> this work. Am I missing something obvious?
>


Skip,

You'll just have to use REUSE on SMPTLIB and leave it allocated.  I have had a 
hard time solving this one.

Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

2016-03-08 Thread Pinnacle 

On 3/8/2016 3:54 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

I'm finally in a position to explore SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1. 'Forever' 
I've had an exec that allocates SMP/E libraries, does LIBDEFs, ALTLIB, etc., 
then undoes all that on the way out. The same initialization exec won't work in 
split screen mode because of files that are already allocated and/or open in 
the original screen. I got around initialization with some changes, but I still 
get nastygrams if I try to exit the dialog in the same order. That is, close 
the first screen, then the second.

I poked around the interweb but do not find any clear example of how to make 
this work. Am I missing something obvious?

.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
626-302-7535 Office
robin...@sce.com




Skip,

You'll just have to use REUSE on SMPTLIB and leave it allocated.  I have 
had a hard time solving this one.


Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1

2016-03-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin 
On Tue, 8 Mar 2016 20:54:56 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

>I'm finally in a position to explore SMP/E split screen in z/OS 2.1. 'Forever' 
>I've had an exec that allocates SMP/E libraries, does LIBDEFs, ALTLIB, etc., 
>then undoes all that on the way out. The same initialization exec won't work 
>in split screen mode because of files that are already allocated and/or open 
>in the original screen. I got around initialization with some changes, but I 
>still get nastygrams if I try to exit the dialog in the same order. That is, 
>close the first screen, then the second.
>
>I poked around the interweb but do not find any clear example of how to make 
>this work. Am I missing something obvious?
> 
About a decade ago, Mark Zelden and Paul Beesley shared with me:
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0605=ibm-main=R54362

On z/OS 2.2 I just used it to start two SMP/E on different CSI.  A rudimentary
test succeeded.  It does no ALLOCATE nor LIBDEF nor ALTLIB.

I had wondered how SMP/E avoids DDNAME conflicts on SMPCSI.  A TSO LISTALC
shows that **.GLOBAL.CSI are allocated to two different generated DDNAMEs.

-- gil

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