Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
I especially want to purchase a hard copy of the Principles of Operation. I think it is around $1,600 per copy now. Yeah! That's the ticket. Bill Fairchild Franklin, TN - Original Message - From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:05:35 PM Subject: Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center Or order the PDF and have FedEx/Kinkos or the equivalent print it. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center While downloading something else at the IBM Publications Center I found the notice: begin copy Effective July 29th 2013: According to e-Business strategy, IBM Publications Center does'nt support ordering anymore. The Publications are being made available in electronic format to be viewed or downloaded free of charge. /end copy If you judge that you need a hardcopy version of a manual, order it during the next few days. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
If you don't really want to inventory and sell hard copies anymore raising their prices to very high levels is an elegant thing to do. It discourages most people from asking for them, and those few hard copies that continue to be sold will each be very profitable even on a print-on-demand basis. Then after a time, having weaned most people from using them, you can announce that hard copies will not longer be available on any terms. This is in fact a gentlemanly if devious way to proceed. There is a down side, but it is probably unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Hardcopy/print publication has a tradition of proofreading and literacy; the web does not; hence _does'nt_. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
John Gilmore wrote: If you don't really want to inventory and sell hard copies anymore raising their prices to very high levels is an elegant thing to do. It discourages most people from asking for them, and those few hard copies that continue to be sold will each be very profitable even on a print-on-demand basis. Then after a time, having weaned most people from using them, you can announce that hard copies will not longer be available on any terms. This is in fact a gentlemanly if devious way to proceed. There is a down side, but it is probably unimportant in the grand scheme of things. Hardcopy/print publication has a tradition of proofreading and literacy; the web does not; hence _does'nt_. And perhaps The definitive version of this publication is the hardcopy version. appearing behind the title page of the Principles of Operation. Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
W dniu 2013-07-24 00:15, Grinsell, Don pisze: I agree with you to a point. The bigger gripe I have is the move away from Library Server to InfoCenters. At least with my own hosted version of the documents on Library Server I can add my own margin notes...a side benefit of real manuals as well. There doesn't appear to be any way to do so in the InfoCenter versions unless you download the pdf and use Acrobat to create annotations. Even my Kindle allows me to make notes to myself. Such is progress. 100% agreed, I would kill for Bookreader, but it's another story. Die hardcopies, long life for the BOO! BTW: AFAIR margin notes are available in the (old) Bookreader for last 14 years or more. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, www.brebank.pl, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2013 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.555.904 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
W dniu 2013-07-24 05:54, Ed Gould pisze: Charles: Tried that and they don't have 3 hole punched paper. I also remember having an issue of double sided printing(to be honest its been a few years but the KINKOs didn't support two sided printing either). I'm sure laser printers are legal in the US. Many laser printers do have double-side feature. Many offices do have punch (office device). I'm not sure about KINKO, but small Johny his dog company just around the corner can copy, print, punch, and bind in any format (A4, A3, B5) I want. I'm pretty sure there are similar facilities in the US. There rest is nitpicking. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, www.brebank.pl, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2013 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.555.904 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
If you judge that you need a hardcopy version of a manual, order it during the next few days. If the publication is in PDF format it's probably cheaper to have it printed at Kinkos or other copying service. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
Radoslaw Skorupka said: 100% agreed, I would kill for Bookreader, but it's another story. Die hardcopies, long life for the BOO! Hear, hear! BTW: AFAIR margin notes are available in the (old) Bookreader for last 14 years or more. Indeed they have! My opinion is InfoCenter st..ks. Only yesterday, I needed to look up a SQLCode in the DB2 Infocenter and for the life of me could not find it. How such a bad approach could ever make it to production to replace a perfectly good product beats me. Sorry for all that ranting, but I am s frustrated with this IC... Jantje. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
But as someone else pointed out, there might be copyright issues with printing companies like Kinko. You might need to look at doing it in house. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center If you judge that you need a hardcopy version of a manual, order it during the next few days. If the publication is in PDF format it's probably cheaper to have it printed at Kinkos or other copying service. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
On 24 July 2013 10:05, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: But as someone else pointed out, there might be copyright issues with printing companies like Kinko. Indeed I had an order refused a few years ago by a big name printing place; they wanted a statement of copyright permission. IBM does provide one, but I didn't have it handy, so I just went to the nearby ma and pa printing place who was happy to do it. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
On 23 July 2013 17:21, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: begin copy Effective July 29th 2013: According to e-Business strategy, IBM Publications Center does'nt support ordering anymore. The Publications are being made available in electronic format to be viewed or downloaded free of charge. /end copy If you judge that you need a hardcopy version of a manual, order it during the next few days. Heh... I've been trying for some weeks to order a couple of sets of SC33-0604-00 APL/2 Keyboard Stickers. I don't relish printing these onto sticky labels from a PDF, and then cutting them out by hand! In any case the pubs centre no longer takes credit cards; one must have a customer number. Well I have one (my own - not my employer's) from the 1990s that I used to order the then popular OS/2 books. So I submitted my order using their bizarre scheme that requires that one generate a pseudo-random order key for reference, according to rules which are enforced quite differently from those documented. All seemed OK, and I was promptly emailed a note saying that my order would be reviewed and returned to me for final approval. Nothing for two weeks, so I went to their check order status page, entered my order number and key, and was promptly redirected to a non-existent URL. (Well, an entire non-existent server lw-sit01.linux.ehone.ibm.com). I submitted a feedback form (at least that worked), and got a short, sharp email (possibly from a human) telling me that my customer number was invalid, and to resubmit with a correct one. No help offered, no attempt to look up my company's or my name, no phone call. So I suspect that they knew at the time that if they could just delay me by a few weeks, their problems would be over. Still, there remains the issue that certain pubs are almost inherently hardcopy. There are stickers, slides, microfiche, etc. still in theory extant that just won't do as downloadables. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
Perhaps? http://shop.hooleon.com/products/keyboards-stickers-emulations-apl On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: On 23 July 2013 17:21, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: begin copy Effective July 29th 2013: According to e-Business strategy, IBM Publications Center does'nt support ordering anymore. The Publications are being made available in electronic format to be viewed or downloaded free of charge. /end copy If you judge that you need a hardcopy version of a manual, order it during the next few days. Heh... I've been trying for some weeks to order a couple of sets of SC33-0604-00 APL/2 Keyboard Stickers. I don't relish printing these onto sticky labels from a PDF, and then cutting them out by hand! In any case the pubs centre no longer takes credit cards; one must have a customer number. Well I have one (my own - not my employer's) from the 1990s that I used to order the then popular OS/2 books. So I submitted my order using their bizarre scheme that requires that one generate a pseudo-random order key for reference, according to rules which are enforced quite differently from those documented. All seemed OK, and I was promptly emailed a note saying that my order would be reviewed and returned to me for final approval. Nothing for two weeks, so I went to their check order status page, entered my order number and key, and was promptly redirected to a non-existent URL. (Well, an entire non-existent server lw-sit01.linux.ehone.ibm.com). I submitted a feedback form (at least that worked), and got a short, sharp email (possibly from a human) telling me that my customer number was invalid, and to resubmit with a correct one. No help offered, no attempt to look up my company's or my name, no phone call. So I suspect that they knew at the time that if they could just delay me by a few weeks, their problems would be over. Still, there remains the issue that certain pubs are almost inherently hardcopy. There are stickers, slides, microfiche, etc. still in theory extant that just won't do as downloadables. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an actual emergency, do you really think we'd stick around to tell you? Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
FedEx Office (nee Kinko's) has 3-hole punch and duplexing. Their online app is a bit tedious but lets you preview and everything--I use it a lot (since I work from home) when I need something big printed. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net wrote: Charles: Tried that and they don't have 3 hole punched paper. I also remember having an issue of double sided printing(to be honest its been a few years but the KINKOs didn't support two sided printing either). Ed On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Or order the PDF and have FedEx/Kinkos or the equivalent print it. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@listserv.ua.**EDUIBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center While downloading something else at the IBM Publications Center I found the notice: begin copy Effective July 29th 2013: According to e-Business strategy, IBM Publications Center does'nt support ordering anymore. The Publications are being made available in electronic format to be viewed or downloaded free of charge. /end copy If you judge that you need a hardcopy version of a manual, order it during the next few days. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA --**--** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --**--** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --**--**-- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
Lizette: 30+ years ago we got in the first(?) PP of COBOL (5734-CB1?) We had to order enough manuals for all the programmers. The printing plant sent the request back for 200+ manuals as the manual was copyrighted. We had to get a letter from IBM giving us permission to make the 200+ copies. Once we got the letter the printing plant did their job, nicely. Ed On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: But as someone else pointed out, there might be copyright issues with printing companies like Kinko. You might need to look at doing it in house. Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- m...@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center If you judge that you need a hardcopy version of a manual, order it during the next few days. If the publication is in PDF format it's probably cheaper to have it printed at Kinkos or other copying service. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
Glad to hear that they are stocking 3 hole punched paper. Next time I am over there I will ask and also ask about 2 sided printing. Ed On Jul 24, 2013, at 12:48 PM, zMan wrote: FedEx Office (nee Kinko's) has 3-hole punch and duplexing. Their online app is a bit tedious but lets you preview and everything--I use it a lot (since I work from home) when I need something big printed. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net wrote: Charles: Tried that and they don't have 3 hole punched paper. I also remember having an issue of double sided printing(to be honest its been a few years but the KINKOs didn't support two sided printing either). Ed On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Or order the PDF and have FedEx/Kinkos or the equivalent print it. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- m...@listserv.ua.**EDUIBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center While downloading something else at the IBM Publications Center I found the notice: begin copy Effective July 29th 2013: According to e-Business strategy, IBM Publications Center does'nt support ordering anymore. The Publications are being made available in electronic format to be viewed or downloaded free of charge. /end copy If you judge that you need a hardcopy version of a manual, order it during the next few days. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA --**--** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN --**--** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM- MAIN --**-- **-- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM- MAIN -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
W dniu 2013-07-23 23:21, John Gilmore pisze: While downloading something else at the IBM Publications Center I found the notice: begin copy Effective July 29th 2013: According to e-Business strategy, IBM Publications Center does'nt support ordering anymore. The Publications are being made available in electronic format to be viewed or downloaded free of charge. /end copy If you judge that you need a hardcopy version of a manual, order it during the next few days. Oh dear! How can we live without it??? Actually I'd got hardcopy of the manual once, it was in 1998, took 5 cabinets and 1% of them was ever open. SInce then I use softcopy and print hardcopy (partially or whole) as wanted. We have printers with duplex option, great thing. (I couldn't resist, I'm sorry) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, www.brebank.pl, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2013 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.555.904 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
I agree with you to a point. The bigger gripe I have is the move away from Library Server to InfoCenters. At least with my own hosted version of the documents on Library Server I can add my own margin notes...a side benefit of real manuals as well. There doesn't appear to be any way to do so in the InfoCenter versions unless you download the pdf and use Acrobat to create annotations. Even my Kindle allows me to make notes to myself. Such is progress. -- Donald Grinsell State of Montana 406-444-2983 dgrins...@mt.gov A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. ~ Albert Einstein -Original Message- Oh dear! How can we live without it??? Actually I'd got hardcopy of the manual once, it was in 1998, took 5 cabinets and 1% of them was ever open. SInce then I use softcopy and print hardcopy (partially or whole) as wanted. We have printers with duplex option, great thing. (I couldn't resist, I'm sorry) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center
Charles: Tried that and they don't have 3 hole punched paper. I also remember having an issue of double sided printing(to be honest its been a few years but the KINKOs didn't support two sided printing either). Ed On Jul 23, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Charles Mills wrote: Or order the PDF and have FedEx/Kinkos or the equivalent print it. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM- m...@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Gilmore Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 5:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: The Rubicon has been crossed: no more hardcopy IBM publications from the IBM Publications Center While downloading something else at the IBM Publications Center I found the notice: begin copy Effective July 29th 2013: According to e-Business strategy, IBM Publications Center does'nt support ordering anymore. The Publications are being made available in electronic format to be viewed or downloaded free of charge. /end copy If you judge that you need a hardcopy version of a manual, order it during the next few days. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
