subject:"Re\: release SYSOUT for a running STC"

Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-04 Thread Matan Cohen

thanks I'll check it out next sunday .

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Barkow, Eileen wrote:

> It just takes a second to de-allocate and re-allocate (depending on how
> slow the system is).
> The tdq will not automatically re-allocate.
> Applications should not be writing to CICS system supplied tdqs but if
> they do or if CICS tries to write, an  abend will result.
> But things will clear up as soon as the tdq is reallocated and opened (I
> left out that you may also have to re-open the closed tdqs: CEMT SET
> TDQ(xxx) OPE)).
>
>  There are various keywords you can specify with ALLOC  in ADYN (ALLOC?
>  gives a list of them - I think that the CLOSEUA option is equivalent to
> FREE=CLOSE).
> ALLOC?
>
>
>
>
> KEYWORDS OF  ALLOCATE VERB ARE
> DDNAME FILE DSNAME DATASET MEMBER STATUS DISP CONDDISP TRACKS CYLINDER
> BLOCKS
> PRIMARY SECONDRY DIRECTRY RELEASE SPCEFORM ROUND VOL PRIVATE VOLSEQ
> VOLCOUNT
> VOLREF UNIT UNITCNT PARALLEL SYSOUT SYSOUPGM SYSOUFRM OUTLIM CLOSEUA COPIES
> LABEL DSSEQ PASSWORD INOUT EXPDT RETPD DUMMY FCBIMAGE FCBOPT QNAME
> TERMINAL UCS
> UCSFOLD UCSVERFY DCBDSNAM DCBDDNAM BFALN BFTEK BLKSIZE BUFIN BUFL BUFMAX
> BUFNO
> BUFOF BUFOUT BUFRQ BUFSZ PTCODE CPRI DENSITY DSORG ERROPT GNCP INTERVAL
> KEYLEN
> LIMCT LRECL MODE NCP OPTCD PCIR PCIS PRTSP RECFM RESERVEF RESERVES SOWA
> STACK
> THRESH TRTCH PASSWRD PERM CNVERT DIAGNOSE QDDNAME QDSNAME QDSORG DEST HOLD
> FRID
> QVOL
> DYNALLOC NOT ISSUED
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Matan Cohen
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 11:42 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
>
> thanks , I will try it soon , but I'm wondering what will happen if I'll
> free the File and application try to write to TDQ? will it be allocate
> automatically?
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Barkow, Eileen  >wrote:
>
> > For CICS extra partition sysout datasets, you can first close all of
> > the indirect tdq's pointing the the DDNAME.
> > IE:  for CEEMSG DD, close TDQ CESE:  CEMT SET TDQ(CESE) CLO
> >
> > Others DDnames may have more than 1  tdq using it so you will have to
> > find all of them.
> >   CEMT I TDQ(C*) will show DDNAMES used if any
> >
> > Then, use transaction ADYN to deallocate.
> >
> > ADYN
> > FREE FILE(CEEMSG) UNALLOC
> > ...   to reallocate:
> > ALLOC FILE(CEEMSG) SYSOUT(A)
> > ..  to end ADYN, clear screen and  use ALT-INSERT-ENTER  keys
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Matan Cohen
> > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:29 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
> >
> > and
> > 'CEEMSG' .
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Matan Cohen 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > 'IXT0'
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Itschak Mugzach  > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> What is the sysout dd name?
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Matan Cohen
> > >>  > >> >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > None of the suggestion above seems to help.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matan Cohen
> > >> >  > >> > >wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Hi Itschak,
> > >> > > Nice to hear from you :)
> > >> > > I'll try to Use it  - Hope it will help me.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach
> > >> > > > >> > >wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Hi Matan,
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC
> > >> > >> jcl
> > >> > provide
> > >> > >> multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the
> > >> > >> file (The transaction that writes to the sysout which is
> > >> > >> triggered from the
> > >> TDQ),
> > >> > >> the
> > >> > >> file is released and the next file is used at open time.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> ITschak
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 2, 201

Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-03 Thread Barkow, Eileen

It just takes a second to de-allocate and re-allocate (depending on how slow 
the system is).
The tdq will not automatically re-allocate.
Applications should not be writing to CICS system supplied tdqs but if they do 
or if CICS tries to write, an  abend will result.
But things will clear up as soon as the tdq is reallocated and opened (I left 
out that you may also have to re-open the closed tdqs: CEMT SET TDQ(xxx) OPE)).

 There are various keywords you can specify with ALLOC  in ADYN (ALLOC?  gives 
a list of them - I think that the CLOSEUA option is equivalent to FREE=CLOSE).
ALLOC? 



   



KEYWORDS OF  ALLOCATE VERB ARE  
DDNAME FILE DSNAME DATASET MEMBER STATUS DISP CONDDISP TRACKS CYLINDER BLOCKS   
PRIMARY SECONDRY DIRECTRY RELEASE SPCEFORM ROUND VOL PRIVATE VOLSEQ VOLCOUNT
VOLREF UNIT UNITCNT PARALLEL SYSOUT SYSOUPGM SYSOUFRM OUTLIM CLOSEUA COPIES 
LABEL DSSEQ PASSWORD INOUT EXPDT RETPD DUMMY FCBIMAGE FCBOPT QNAME TERMINAL UCS 
UCSFOLD UCSVERFY DCBDSNAM DCBDDNAM BFALN BFTEK BLKSIZE BUFIN BUFL BUFMAX BUFNO  
BUFOF BUFOUT BUFRQ BUFSZ PTCODE CPRI DENSITY DSORG ERROPT GNCP INTERVAL KEYLEN  
LIMCT LRECL MODE NCP OPTCD PCIR PCIS PRTSP RECFM RESERVEF RESERVES SOWA STACK   
THRESH TRTCH PASSWRD PERM CNVERT DIAGNOSE QDDNAME QDSNAME QDSORG DEST HOLD FRID 
QVOL
DYNALLOC NOT ISSUED 



 

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Matan Cohen
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 11:42 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

thanks , I will try it soon , but I'm wondering what will happen if I'll free 
the File and application try to write to TDQ? will it be allocate automatically?


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Barkow, Eileen wrote:

> For CICS extra partition sysout datasets, you can first close all of 
> the indirect tdq's pointing the the DDNAME.
> IE:  for CEEMSG DD, close TDQ CESE:  CEMT SET TDQ(CESE) CLO
>
> Others DDnames may have more than 1  tdq using it so you will have to 
> find all of them.
>   CEMT I TDQ(C*) will show DDNAMES used if any
>
> Then, use transaction ADYN to deallocate.
>
> ADYN
> FREE FILE(CEEMSG) UNALLOC
> ...   to reallocate:
> ALLOC FILE(CEEMSG) SYSOUT(A)
> ..  to end ADYN, clear screen and  use ALT-INSERT-ENTER  keys
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Matan Cohen
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:29 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
>
> and
> 'CEEMSG' .
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Matan Cohen 
> wrote:
>
> > 'IXT0'
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Itschak Mugzach  >wrote:
> >
> >> What is the sysout dd name?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Matan Cohen 
> >>  >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > None of the suggestion above seems to help.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matan Cohen 
> >> >  >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Itschak,
> >> > > Nice to hear from you :)
> >> > > I'll try to Use it  - Hope it will help me.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach 
> >> > > >> > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi Matan,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC 
> >> > >> jcl
> >> > provide
> >> > >> multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the 
> >> > >> f

Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-03 Thread Matan Cohen

thanks , I will try it soon , but I'm wondering what will happen if
I'll free the File and application try to write to TDQ? will it be allocate
automatically?


On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Barkow, Eileen wrote:

> For CICS extra partition sysout datasets, you can first close all of the
> indirect tdq's pointing the the DDNAME.
> IE:  for CEEMSG DD, close TDQ CESE:  CEMT SET TDQ(CESE) CLO
>
> Others DDnames may have more than 1  tdq using it so you will have to find
> all of them.
>   CEMT I TDQ(C*) will show DDNAMES used if any
>
> Then, use transaction ADYN to deallocate.
>
> ADYN
> FREE FILE(CEEMSG) UNALLOC
> ...   to reallocate:
> ALLOC FILE(CEEMSG) SYSOUT(A)
> ..  to end ADYN, clear screen and  use
> ALT-INSERT-ENTER  keys
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Matan Cohen
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:29 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC
>
> and
> 'CEEMSG' .
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Matan Cohen 
> wrote:
>
> > 'IXT0'
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Itschak Mugzach  >wrote:
> >
> >> What is the sysout dd name?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Matan Cohen  >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > None of the suggestion above seems to help.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matan Cohen
> >> >  >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Itschak,
> >> > > Nice to hear from you :)
> >> > > I'll try to Use it  - Hope it will help me.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach
> >> > > >> > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi Matan,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC
> >> > >> jcl
> >> > provide
> >> > >> multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the file
> >> > >> (The transaction that writes to the sysout which is triggered
> >> > >> from the
> >> TDQ),
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> file is released and the next file is used at open time.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ITschak
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen <
> >> matancohen...@gmail.com
> >> > >> >wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Hi ,
> >> > >> > Thank for the help .
> >> > >> > I should have provide you with the following info :
> >> > >> > the STC is a CICS .
> >> > >> > The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant
> >> control
> >> > the
> >> > >> > PGM nor the JCL.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
> >> > >> > shmuel+...@patriot.net> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > In <99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com>, on
> >> 06/29/2012
> >> > >> > >at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford  said:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > >Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and
> >> > >> > > >FREE...is
> >> this
> >> > a
> >> > >> > > >vendor STC or in house written?
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But
> >> > >> > > does
> >> the
> >> > OP
> >> > >> > > want something in JCL or something in the STC itself?
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > >  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
> >> > >> > >  Atid/2<http://patriot.net/~shmuel>
> >> > >> > > We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
> >> > >> > > (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > -

Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-03 Thread Barkow, Eileen

For CICS extra partition sysout datasets, you can first close all of the 
indirect tdq's pointing the the DDNAME.
IE:  for CEEMSG DD, close TDQ CESE:  CEMT SET TDQ(CESE) CLO

Others DDnames may have more than 1  tdq using it so you will have to find all 
of them.
  CEMT I TDQ(C*) will show DDNAMES used if any

Then, use transaction ADYN to deallocate.

ADYN
FREE FILE(CEEMSG) UNALLOC
...   to reallocate:
ALLOC FILE(CEEMSG) SYSOUT(A)
..  to end ADYN, clear screen and  use
ALT-INSERT-ENTER  keys

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Matan Cohen
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:29 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

and
'CEEMSG' .


On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Matan Cohen  wrote:

> 'IXT0'
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>
>> What is the sysout dd name?
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Matan Cohen > >wrote:
>>
>> > None of the suggestion above seems to help.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matan Cohen 
>> > > > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Itschak,
>> > > Nice to hear from you :)
>> > > I'll try to Use it  - Hope it will help me.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach 
>> > >> > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Matan,
>> > >>
>> > >> This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC 
>> > >> jcl
>> > provide
>> > >> multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the file 
>> > >> (The transaction that writes to the sysout which is triggered 
>> > >> from the
>> TDQ),
>> > >> the
>> > >> file is released and the next file is used at open time.
>> > >>
>> > >> ITschak
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen <
>> matancohen...@gmail.com
>> > >> >wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Hi ,
>> > >> > Thank for the help .
>> > >> > I should have provide you with the following info :
>> > >> > the STC is a CICS .
>> > >> > The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant
>> control
>> > the
>> > >> > PGM nor the JCL.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
>> > >> > shmuel+...@patriot.net> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > In <99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com>, on
>> 06/29/2012
>> > >> > >at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford  said:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > >Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and 
>> > >> > > >FREE...is
>> this
>> > a
>> > >> > > >vendor STC or in house written?
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But 
>> > >> > > does
>> the
>> > OP
>> > >> > > want something in JCL or something in the STC itself?
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > --
>> > >> > >  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
>> > >> > >  Atid/2<http://patriot.net/~shmuel>
>> > >> > > We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
>> > >> > > (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > ---
>> > ---
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>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > __
>> > >> > best regards,
>> > >> > matan cohen
>> > >> > MF System Administrator.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> -
>> -
>> > >>

Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-03 Thread Matan Cohen

itzchak - I didn't fully understand the 'CSSL' you mentioned .
Shmuel - I do have access to change the JCL , and did try the SPIN but
trying to release it  got me this :
 $TS 7987,SPIN,DDNAME=CEEMSG
 $HASP003 RC=(96),T S7987 SPIN  - NOT SPINNABLE
also I'm running in z/os 1.10 so the SPIN= is limited to 'NO' \ 'UNALLOC'

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
shmuel+...@patriot.net> wrote:

> In
> ,
> on 07/02/2012
>at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen  said:
>
> >The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant control
> >the PGM nor the JCL.
>
> Then you can spin off segments[1] for early printing or archiving, but
> I don't know how to reclaim the SPOOL space.
>
> [1] $T for JES2; I don't know the JES3 command.
>
> --
>  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
>  Atid/2
> We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
> (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
>
> --
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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In
,
on 07/02/2012
   at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen  said:

>The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant control
>the PGM nor the JCL.

Then you can spin off segments[1] for early printing or archiving, but
I don't know how to reclaim the SPOOL space.

[1] $T for JES2; I don't know the JES3 command.

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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In
,
on 07/02/2012
   at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach  said:

>At CICS STC jcl provide multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE.

He said that he doesn't control the JCL. If he was allowed to do it
then a SPIN on the DD statement might be in order.

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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-02 Thread Itschak Mugzach

you should disable & enable CSSL to spin the CEEMSG file

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Matan Cohen  wrote:

> and
> 'CEEMSG' .
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Matan Cohen 
> wrote:
>
> > 'IXT0'
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Itschak Mugzach  >wrote:
> >
> >> What is the sysout dd name?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Matan Cohen  >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > None of the suggestion above seems to help.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matan Cohen  >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Itschak,
> >> > > Nice to hear from you :)
> >> > > I'll try to Use it  - Hope it will help me.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach <
> imugz...@gmail.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi Matan,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC jcl
> >> > provide
> >> > >> multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the file
> (The
> >> > >> transaction that writes to the sysout which is triggered from the
> >> TDQ),
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> file is released and the next file is used at open time.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ITschak
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen <
> >> matancohen...@gmail.com
> >> > >> >wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Hi ,
> >> > >> > Thank for the help .
> >> > >> > I should have provide you with the following info :
> >> > >> > the STC is a CICS .
> >> > >> > The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant
> >> control
> >> > the
> >> > >> > PGM nor the JCL.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
> >> > >> > shmuel+...@patriot.net> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > In <99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com>, on
> >> 06/29/2012
> >> > >> > >at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford  said:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > >Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is
> >> this
> >> > a
> >> > >> > > >vendor STC or in house written?
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But does
> >> the
> >> > OP
> >> > >> > > want something in JCL or something in the STC itself?
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > >  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
> >> > >> > >  Atid/2
> >> > >> > > We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
> >> > >> > > (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > >
> >> > --
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> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > --
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> >> > >> > best regards,
> >> > >> > matan cohen
> >> > >> > MF System Administrator.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
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> >> > > matan cohen
> >> > > MF System Administrator.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
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> >> > best regards,
> >> > matan cohen
> >> > MF System Administrator.
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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-02 Thread Matan Cohen

and
'CEEMSG' .


On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Matan Cohen  wrote:

> 'IXT0'
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>
>> What is the sysout dd name?
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Matan Cohen > >wrote:
>>
>> > None of the suggestion above seems to help.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matan Cohen > > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Itschak,
>> > > Nice to hear from you :)
>> > > I'll try to Use it  - Hope it will help me.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach > > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Matan,
>> > >>
>> > >> This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC jcl
>> > provide
>> > >> multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the file (The
>> > >> transaction that writes to the sysout which is triggered from the
>> TDQ),
>> > >> the
>> > >> file is released and the next file is used at open time.
>> > >>
>> > >> ITschak
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen <
>> matancohen...@gmail.com
>> > >> >wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Hi ,
>> > >> > Thank for the help .
>> > >> > I should have provide you with the following info :
>> > >> > the STC is a CICS .
>> > >> > The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant
>> control
>> > the
>> > >> > PGM nor the JCL.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
>> > >> > shmuel+...@patriot.net> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > In <99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com>, on
>> 06/29/2012
>> > >> > >at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford  said:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > >Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is
>> this
>> > a
>> > >> > > >vendor STC or in house written?
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But does
>> the
>> > OP
>> > >> > > want something in JCL or something in the STC itself?
>> > >> > >
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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-02 Thread Matan Cohen

'IXT0'

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Itschak Mugzach  wrote:

> What is the sysout dd name?
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Matan Cohen  >wrote:
>
> > None of the suggestion above seems to help.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matan Cohen  > >wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Itschak,
> > > Nice to hear from you :)
> > > I'll try to Use it  - Hope it will help me.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach  > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Matan,
> > >>
> > >> This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC jcl
> > provide
> > >> multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the file (The
> > >> transaction that writes to the sysout which is triggered from the
> TDQ),
> > >> the
> > >> file is released and the next file is used at open time.
> > >>
> > >> ITschak
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen  > >> >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi ,
> > >> > Thank for the help .
> > >> > I should have provide you with the following info :
> > >> > the STC is a CICS .
> > >> > The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant control
> > the
> > >> > PGM nor the JCL.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
> > >> > shmuel+...@patriot.net> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > In <99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com>, on
> 06/29/2012
> > >> > >at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford  said:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is
> this
> > a
> > >> > > >vendor STC or in house written?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But does the
> > OP
> > >> > > want something in JCL or something in the STC itself?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-02 Thread Itschak Mugzach

What is the sysout dd name?

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Matan Cohen wrote:

> None of the suggestion above seems to help.
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matan Cohen  >wrote:
>
> > Hi Itschak,
> > Nice to hear from you :)
> > I'll try to Use it  - Hope it will help me.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach  >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Matan,
> >>
> >> This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC jcl
> provide
> >> multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the file (The
> >> transaction that writes to the sysout which is triggered from the TDQ),
> >> the
> >> file is released and the next file is used at open time.
> >>
> >> ITschak
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen  >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi ,
> >> > Thank for the help .
> >> > I should have provide you with the following info :
> >> > the STC is a CICS .
> >> > The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant control
> the
> >> > PGM nor the JCL.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
> >> > shmuel+...@patriot.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > In <99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com>, on 06/29/2012
> >> > >at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford  said:
> >> > >
> >> > > >Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is this
> a
> >> > > >vendor STC or in house written?
> >> > >
> >> > > No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But does the
> OP
> >> > > want something in JCL or something in the STC itself?
> >> > >
> >> > > --
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> >> > >  Atid/2
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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-02 Thread Matan Cohen

None of the suggestion above seems to help.

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Matan Cohen wrote:

> Hi Itschak,
> Nice to hear from you :)
> I'll try to Use it  - Hope it will help me.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach wrote:
>
>> Hi Matan,
>>
>> This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC jcl provide
>> multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the file (The
>> transaction that writes to the sysout which is triggered from the TDQ),
>> the
>> file is released and the next file is used at open time.
>>
>> ITschak
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen > >wrote:
>>
>> > Hi ,
>> > Thank for the help .
>> > I should have provide you with the following info :
>> > the STC is a CICS .
>> > The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant control the
>> > PGM nor the JCL.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
>> > shmuel+...@patriot.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > In <99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com>, on 06/29/2012
>> > >at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford  said:
>> > >
>> > > >Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is this a
>> > > >vendor STC or in house written?
>> > >
>> > > No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But does the OP
>> > > want something in JCL or something in the STC itself?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > >  Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
>> > >  Atid/2
>> > > We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
>> > > (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-02 Thread Matan Cohen

Hi Itschak,
Nice to hear from you :)
I'll try to Use it  - Hope it will help me.


On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Itschak Mugzach  wrote:

> Hi Matan,
>
> This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC jcl provide
> multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the file (The
> transaction that writes to the sysout which is triggered from the TDQ), the
> file is released and the next file is used at open time.
>
> ITschak
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen  >wrote:
>
> > Hi ,
> > Thank for the help .
> > I should have provide you with the following info :
> > the STC is a CICS .
> > The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant control the
> > PGM nor the JCL.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
> > shmuel+...@patriot.net> wrote:
> >
> > > In <99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com>, on 06/29/2012
> > >at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford  said:
> > >
> > > >Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is this a
> > > >vendor STC or in house written?
> > >
> > > No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But does the OP
> > > want something in JCL or something in the STC itself?
> > >
> > > --
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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-02 Thread Itschak Mugzach

Hi Matan,

This is the classic case for sysout fragmentation. At CICS STC jcl provide
multiple sysouts with FREE=CLOSE. Every time you close the file (The
transaction that writes to the sysout which is triggered from the TDQ), the
file is released and the next file is used at open time.

ITschak

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Matan Cohen wrote:

> Hi ,
> Thank for the help .
> I should have provide you with the following info :
> the STC is a CICS .
> The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant control the
> PGM nor the JCL.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
> shmuel+...@patriot.net> wrote:
>
> > In <99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com>, on 06/29/2012
> >at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford  said:
> >
> > >Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is this a
> > >vendor STC or in house written?
> >
> > No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But does the OP
> > want something in JCL or something in the STC itself?
> >
> > --
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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-02 Thread Matan Cohen

Hi ,
Thank for the help .
I should have provide you with the following info :
the STC is a CICS .
The DD I want to relese is a TDQ written to a DD - so I cant control the
PGM nor the JCL.


On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <
shmuel+...@patriot.net> wrote:

> In <99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com>, on 06/29/2012
>at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford  said:
>
> >Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is this a
> >vendor STC or in house written?
>
> No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But does the OP
> want something in JCL or something in the STC itself?
>
> --
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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In <99ab43dc-4e6d-42ea-9433-e0e02f33f...@yahoo.com>, on 06/29/2012
   at 11:28 AM, Scott Ford  said:

>Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is this a
>vendor STC or in house written?

No. FREE=CLOSE et al have been standard JCL for ages. But does the OP
want something in JCL or something in the STC itself?

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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In
,
on 06/28/2012
   at 09:29 AM, Matan Cohen  said:

>I wonder if there is a way to release a specific sysout DD for a
>running STC?

Assuming that you want a solution in the STC code rather than in the
JCL, use SETPRT DISP=SCHEDULE. If the DD has FREE=CLOSE, DISP=EXTERNAL
will also work.

>the main idea is to free some of the space which a specific STC is
>holding while avoiding restarting the STC.

For JES2 you must ensure that the dataset has its own IOT.

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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-07-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

In
,
on 06/28/2012
   at 09:29 AM, Matan Cohen  said:

>I wonder if there is a way to release a specific sysout DD for a
>running STC?

SETPRT DISP=SCHEDULE. If the DD has FREE=CLOSE, DISP=EXTERNAL will
also work.

>the main idea is to free some of the space which a specific STC is
>holding while avoiding restarting the STC.

For JES2 you must ensure that the dataset has its own IOT.

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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-06-30 Thread Scott Ford

Gary,
Thanks for the info

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com

On Jun 29, 2012, at 8:08 PM, Gary Puchkoff  wrote:

> Starting in z/OS 1.13 any JES2 sysout dataset can be "spun"
> 
> Add the keyword SPIN=(UNALLOC,xxx) on the sysout JCL.  
> 
> Where xxx is one of:
> 
> • ‘hh:mm’ – Spin data set at specified time
> • ‘+hh:mm’ – Spin data set at interval specified
> • nnn [K|M] – Spin every nnn records
> • NOCMD – Cannot spin data set by command (current processing)
> • CMDONLY – Spin only when a command is issued (default)
> 
> This is also supported in dynamic allocation and TSO ALLOC
> 
> For the cmdonly option you can issue the JES2 command:
> $T JQ(xxx),SPIN,DDNAME=ddname – command can spin data set on demand
> – If you omit DDNAME= all active spin data sets will be spun for that job
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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-06-29 Thread Gary Puchkoff

Starting in z/OS 1.13 any JES2 sysout dataset can be "spun"

Add the keyword SPIN=(UNALLOC,xxx) on the sysout JCL.  

Where xxx is one of:

• ‘hh:mm’ – Spin data set at specified time
• ‘+hh:mm’ – Spin data set at interval specified
• nnn [K|M] – Spin every nnn records
• NOCMD – Cannot spin data set by command (current processing)
• CMDONLY – Spin only when a command is issued (default)

This is also supported in dynamic allocation and TSO ALLOC

For the cmdonly option you can issue the JES2 command:
$T JQ(xxx),SPIN,DDNAME=ddname – command can spin data set on demand
– If you omit DDNAME= all active spin data sets will be spun for that job

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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-06-29 Thread Scott Ford

Matan,

Someone mentioned in a previous post about SPIN and FREE...is this a vendor STC 
or in house written?

Scott ford
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On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:29 AM, Matan Cohen  wrote:

> Hi,
> I wonder if there is a way to release a specific sysout DD for a running
> STC?
> the main idea is to free some of the space which a specific STC is holding
> while avoiding restarting the STC.
> 
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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-06-28 Thread Williamson, James R

 I have successfully used $OS,RECORDS=nn. You can specify which sysout 
other 
ways, like OUTGRP=n.n.n 
 


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Hi,
I wonder if there is a way to release a specific sysout DD for a running
STC?
the main idea is to free some of the space which a specific STC is holding
while avoiding restarting the STC.


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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-06-28 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz

Look into the SPIN= parm on the DD Statement.  Then you could issue: $TS 
0990484,SPIN,DDNAME=SYSPRINT

We set these up to spin every 120K lines: JESLOG=(SPIN,120K) on the job card. 

MA

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Re: release SYSOUT for a running STC

2012-06-28 Thread McKown, John

> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Matan Cohen
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:29 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: release SYSOUT for a running STC
> 
> Hi,
> I wonder if there is a way to release a specific sysout DD 
> for a running
> STC?
> the main idea is to free some of the space which a specific 
> STC is holding
> while avoiding restarting the STC.

So long at it is not open, you can use DYNALLOC to unallocate any DD. How to 
invoke it depends on the source language. 

Or, since you specifically said SYSOUT, perhaps you could use the SEGMENT= 
parameter on the DD statement.
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