Re: SLIP trap on High CPU usage

2018-05-31 Thread Lizette Koehler
I was responding to this part of the OP question


> My problem is a vendor product where a user exit is being repetitively 
> called, issuing unnecessary GETMAIN/FREEMAIN

Lizette



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> >But a GTF Trace probably can.  I would look at GTF TRACE or VSM Traces.
> 
> 
> But this will monitor VSM calls, not CPU usage. I understand the
> GETMAIN/FREEMAIN are expected, but only every now and then, they go wild. I
> don't see how GTF can help here.
> 
> 
> I don't know the details, but I know we have some automation in place to
> detect high CPU users (jobs). AFAIK, it is based on MainView z/OS detecting
> such a job and then writting (WTO) a message, which in turn triggers
> automation.
> 
> 
> Do you have some tool like MainView or Omegamon?
> 
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Re: SLIP trap on High CPU usage

2018-05-31 Thread Binyamin Dissen
I would suggest that you figure out how much CPU your STC typically takes and
specify a TIME= at about that level. Then you can SLIP on 322 to take an
abend.

Of course, depending on the criticality of the STC, you should consider making
it automatically restart.



On Wed, 30 May 2018 22:00:01 -0500 Munif Sadek  wrote:

:>Is there a way to slip trap on a module/STC if it starts consuming higher MSU 
in zOS 2.3. 

:>My problem is a vendor product where a user exit is being repetitively 
called, issuing unnecessary GETMAIN/FREEMAIN. Vendor has asked us to dummy out 
user exit and fix will come in the next release.  This problem is intermittent, 
 generally happens once every couple of  hours during  online window.

:>Dummied out User exit has provided  relief, still management perceived notion 
that Mainframe is expansive and Vendor reluctance to disclose what process is 
initiating  call to this exit, is there a way I can set a slip trap whenever 
CPU usage is spiked so that I can go back to vendor with SVC DUMP/ Systrace 
(Mod names) of the exact problem.

:>We  do have Strobe but strobe can not automate this request without 
integration with iStrobe and BMC Caze. 

:>Did look at SLIP documentation but can not find relevant information.

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AW: Re: SLIP trap on High CPU usage

2018-05-30 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>But a GTF Trace probably can.  I would look at GTF TRACE or VSM Traces.


But this will monitor VSM calls, not CPU usage. I understand the 
GETMAIN/FREEMAIN are expected, but only every now and then, they go wild. I 
don't see how GTF can help here.


I don't know the details, but I know we have some automation in place to detect 
high CPU users (jobs). AFAIK, it is based on MainView z/OS detecting such a job 
and then writting (WTO) a message, which in turn triggers automation.


Do you have some tool like MainView or Omegamon?


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Re: SLIP trap on High CPU usage

2018-05-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
I do not think a SLIP trap will work.

But a GTF Trace probably can.  I would look at GTF TRACE or VSM Traces.

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieav100/gfs.htm

GFS trace is a diagnostic tool that collects information about the use of the 
GETMAIN, FREEMAIN, or STORAGE macro. You can use GFS trace to analyze the 
allocation of virtual storage and identify users of large amounts of virtual 
storage. You must use the generalized trace facility (GTF) to get the GFS trace 
data output.



Lizette


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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of
> Munif Sadek
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> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: SLIP trap on High CPU usage
> 
> Dear listers
> 
> Is there a way to slip trap on a module/STC if it starts consuming higher MSU
> in zOS 2.3.
> 
> My problem is a vendor product where a user exit is being repetitively
> called, issuing unnecessary GETMAIN/FREEMAIN. Vendor has asked us to dummy
> out user exit and fix will come in the next release.  This problem is
> intermittent,  generally happens once every couple of  hours during  online
> window.
> 
> Dummied out User exit has provided  relief, still management perceived notion
> that Mainframe is expansive and Vendor reluctance to disclose what process is
> initiating  call to this exit, is there a way I can set a slip trap whenever
> CPU usage is spiked so that I can go back to vendor with SVC DUMP/ Systrace
> (Mod names) of the exact problem.
> 
> We  do have Strobe but strobe can not automate this request without
> integration with iStrobe and BMC Caze.
> 
> Did look at SLIP documentation but can not find relevant information.
> 
> kind regards,
> Munif.
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SLIP trap on High CPU usage

2018-05-30 Thread Munif Sadek
Dear listers

Is there a way to slip trap on a module/STC if it starts consuming higher MSU 
in zOS 2.3. 

My problem is a vendor product where a user exit is being repetitively called, 
issuing unnecessary GETMAIN/FREEMAIN. Vendor has asked us to dummy out user 
exit and fix will come in the next release.  This problem is intermittent,  
generally happens once every couple of  hours during  online window.

Dummied out User exit has provided  relief, still management perceived notion 
that Mainframe is expansive and Vendor reluctance to disclose what process is 
initiating  call to this exit, is there a way I can set a slip trap whenever 
CPU usage is spiked so that I can go back to vendor with SVC DUMP/ Systrace 
(Mod names) of the exact problem.

We  do have Strobe but strobe can not automate this request without integration 
with iStrobe and BMC Caze. 

Did look at SLIP documentation but can not find relevant information.

kind regards,
Munif.

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