Re: AW: SPF/SE is available for free

[Rony G. Flatscher]

On 20.11.2022 22:35, Bob Bridges wrote:

I haven't been keeping up with this thread, but I drop in on the random 
long-running thread just because, and I see this.  For ooREXX and VBS and the 
like I've been trying out Notepad++, but I'm not entirely happy with it.


You could use IntelliJ [1] (they have a free community edition) which is available for any operating 
system platform that runs Java. There is an IntelliJ ooRexx-Plugin [2] that supports ooRexx up to 
the latest version 5.0 and the experimental executor edition of ooRexx. The plugin will syntax check 
your Rexx code (you'll get redlines at the right border to navigate to the sections that contain 
errors, together with an explanation of the error) and also supports the few additional mainframe 
Rexx characters (an option you need to activate as these characters did not get into TRL2).



There are a few functions (like the missing  that I don't care for, and 
it's pretty troublesome to find or set the colors the way I'd like them.  I'm open to 
recommendations.  Never heard of Hessling.  I'd probably use the PC version of ISPF 
Editor, but I hear it's not around any more.

THE ("the Hessling editor") can be found here: 


The author, a very nice Australian gentleman named Mark Hessling is also the maintainer of the 
open-source Regina Rexx interpreter of which there was an experimental port to Hercules.


Mark is an astounding man having witnessed his initiatives, tools, products and skills for decades 
(just look at the depth of his knowledge over all the Regina and Rexx external function packages 
support for different operating systems). E.g. he created the Rexx/SQL function package at a time 
(literally decades ago) where the big guys like IBM or Oracle did not support interaction with each 
other's RDBMS, but you could (and can) use Rexx/SQL to do that and connect to different RDBMS at the 
same time. Or look at his long standing Rexx/CURL external function package and the like!


If you look around the above web page you might find additional interesting and valuable Rexx 
related information. Also, you would be able to meet with him in person via the RexxLA mailing lists 
by enrolling to RexxLA for free at  (to fight 
robots there is a funny little challenge which mandates knowledge of Rexx). Also you would be able 
to communicate via the RexxLA mailing lists with the father of Rexx, Mike F. Cowlishaw, or "Mr. 
ooRexx", Rick McGuire, and many more Rexx afficionados... :)


---rony

[1] IntelliJ (quite popular development environment): 

[2] IntelliJ ooRexx-plugin: 





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thoroughly bad man thinks he is all right.  This is common sense, really.  You 
understand sleep when you are awake, not while you are sleeping.  You can see 
mistakes in arithmetic when your mind is working properly; while you are making 
them you cannot see them.  You can understand the nature of drunkenness when 
you are sober, not when you are drunk.  Good people know about both good and 
evil; bad people do not know about either.  -C S Lewis, _Christian Behavior_ */


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The SPF/SE is an excellent editor, indeed...I use another eccellent editor, 
always free, The Hessling Editor, a Xedit clone with full macro support using 
Rexx.
Dan



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Re: AW: SPF/SE is available for free

[Bob Bridges]

I haven't been keeping up with this thread, but I drop in on the random 
long-running thread just because, and I see this.  For ooREXX and VBS and the 
like I've been trying out Notepad++, but I'm not entirely happy with it.  There 
are a few functions (like the missing  that I don't care for, and it's 
pretty troublesome to find or set the colors the way I'd like them.  I'm open 
to recommendations.  Never heard of Hessling.  I'd probably use the PC version 
of ISPF Editor, but I hear it's not around any more.

---
Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313

/* When a man is getting better he understands more and more clearly the evil 
that is still left in him.  When a man is getting worse, he understands his own 
badness less and less.  A moderately bad man knows he is not very good; a 
thoroughly bad man thinks he is all right.  This is common sense, really.  You 
understand sleep when you are awake, not while you are sleeping.  You can see 
mistakes in arithmetic when your mind is working properly; while you are making 
them you cannot see them.  You can understand the nature of drunkenness when 
you are sober, not when you are drunk.  Good people know about both good and 
evil; bad people do not know about either.  -C S Lewis, _Christian Behavior_ */


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of W 
Mainframe
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2022 06:40

The SPF/SE is an excellent editor, indeed...I use another eccellent editor, 
always free, The Hessling Editor, a Xedit clone with full macro support using 
Rexx.
Dan

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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[Farley, Peter]

I would respectfully disagree.  Crowd-funding to pay for various legal fees has 
been done many times across the world for other people in trouble of one kind 
or another with those in power, so why not this one?  You might even be able to 
interest organizations like the ACLU or its European equivalents against the 
"tech power" companies for not respecting a probated will.  Granted, this cause 
has a much smaller "tech savvy" audience to start with, but not an audience 
without resources.

I for one would contribute to that cause, multiple times if necessary.  Dave 
Cole has also indicated his willingness to contribute, and Dave has many 
friends   .

The hard part of such efforts is the glacial pace of court cases.  You can lose 
contributor interest because it just takes so bloody long to get anything done.

A savvy attorney would also publicize (or get one of those TV "on your side" 
teams to publicize) the injustice of large tech firms not respecting a widow's 
rights which could greatly expand the available contributor base, and which 
could also lead to a much speedier resolution from large firms not wanting 
those "optics" on their practices.

All that of course assumes the widow's willingness to be a public face of the 
issue for a period of time.  That's not everyone's idea of a good time, 
especially with the level of trolls out there.

Peter

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Michael Knigge
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2022 3:47 AM
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Subject: AW: SPF/SE is available for free

Some words from Tim's wife bonnie:


I don't have any install files...nothing on the product. I only got involved 
with filling orders but I can no longer access any of Tim's files. I don't have 
his passwords and none of the companies, AOL, Google, Microsoft, etc. would 
give me access even though it was in his Will that I have access. Our attorney 
would have taken up the case but it was going to cost more than the family 
wanted to spend. Apparently with these companies you have to set up Beneficiary 
info in your profile. Wills mean nothing.


So... I don't think that we can get some many people for a crow-founding that 
we collect enough money to pay the attorney


Sadly

Bye,
Michael



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I agree with Jay that it still may be possible to recover the source IF the 
files still exist.

I know it probably is possible to set up PW protected or encrypted files to 
"self-destruct" or somehow lock permanently (I assume any agency or company who 
are serious about secrecy all have access to some capability like that), but is 
such a seriously advanced capability really available to "ordinary" folk like 
the SPF developer?

Even assuming the answer to that question is "yes", it would be worth asking if 
a certified "white hat" hacker or company had the capability to unlock such 
files anyway.  Obviously it depends entirely on what the "locking" mechanism 
really was and how permanent the "self-destruct" status is, but I tend to think 
that someone with the necessary credentials could possibly resolve this 
unfortunate situation.  Money would be the first issue of course since no one 
who does such work normally does it gratis, but among those who are real fans 
of the software I am sure some way could be found to fund such an effort, via 
crowd site or more private means.

Any such effort would require his widow's cooperation and official written 
approval of course, but it sounds to me like that would not be an issue.

Another question to ask is if any version of the source was escrowed with a law 
firm or other "rights protecting" organization in order to make a sale to a 
large company?  Many software developers and companies have had to do that to 
protect the rights of large user organizations.  Such a situation might provide 
(with cooperation from the beneficiary(ies) of the escrow) access to some 
version of the original code, though getting it released in the open might take 
lawyers and/or court actions.

Just 

Re: AW: SPF/SE is available for free

[W Mainframe]

The SPF/SE is an excellent editor, indeed...I use another eccellent editor, 
always free, The Hessling Editor, a Xedit clone with full macro support using 
Rexx.
Dan


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On Tuesday, November 15, 2022, 5:47 AM, Michael Knigge  
wrote:

Some words from Tim's wife bonnie:


I don't have any install files...nothing on the product. I only got involved 
with filling orders but I can no longer access any of Tim's files. I don't have 
his passwords and none of the companies, AOL, Google, Microsoft, etc. would 
give me access even though it was in his Will that I have access. Our attorney 
would have taken up the case but it was going to cost more than the family 
wanted to spend. Apparently with these companies you have to set up Beneficiary 
info in your profile. Wills mean nothing.


So... I don't think that we can get some many people for a crow-founding that 
we collect enough money to pay the attorney


Sadly

Bye,
Michael



Rühmkorffstraße 5 
30163 Hannover 

Telefon: +49 511 330 998 23 
Fax: +49 511 330 998 65 
michael.kni...@set.de 
https://set.de 
Hinweise zum Datenschutz: https://set.de/datenschutz

Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Hannover HRB 52778 
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Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  Im Auftrag von 
Farley, Peter
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. November 2022 20:12
An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Betreff: Re: SPF/SE is available for free

I agree with Jay that it still may be possible to recover the source IF the 
files still exist.

I know it probably is possible to set up PW protected or encrypted files to 
"self-destruct" or somehow lock permanently (I assume any agency or company who 
are serious about secrecy all have access to some capability like that), but is 
such a seriously advanced capability really available to "ordinary" folk like 
the SPF developer?

Even assuming the answer to that question is "yes", it would be worth asking if 
a certified "white hat" hacker or company had the capability to unlock such 
files anyway.  Obviously it depends entirely on what the "locking" mechanism 
really was and how permanent the "self-destruct" status is, but I tend to think 
that someone with the necessary credentials could possibly resolve this 
unfortunate situation.  Money would be the first issue of course since no one 
who does such work normally does it gratis, but among those who are real fans 
of the software I am sure some way could be found to fund such an effort, via 
crowd site or more private means.

Any such effort would require his widow's cooperation and official written 
approval of course, but it sounds to me like that would not be an issue.

Another question to ask is if any version of the source was escrowed with a law 
firm or other "rights protecting" organization in order to make a sale to a 
large company?  Many software developers and companies have had to do that to 
protect the rights of large user organizations.  Such a situation might provide 
(with cooperation from the beneficiary(ies) of the escrow) access to some 
version of the original code, though getting it released in the open might take 
lawyers and/or court actions.

Just a couple of thoughts for consideration.

Peter

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Knigge
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 5:59 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: AW: SPF/SE is available for free

Jay,

I've got the following information.


Hello Michael. I contacted his wife and she told me that Tim’s SPF s/w is “gone 
forever”.  Apparently he PW protected it and when she tried to break the PW, it 
self destructed. In any case, according to her, there is no hope for any data 
recovery. Very disappointing.


Sorry

Michael


Mit freundlichen Grüßen 

Michael Knigge
Software Engineer 



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Jay Maynard
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. November 2022 20:23
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Betreff: Re: SPF/SE is available for free

Hm. According to the README on the Github site, the source code was stored 
encrypted...are the encrypted files still in existence? Perhaps they can be 
obtained and decrypted. It's a long shot, to be sure, but definitely worth a 
try.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 9:22 AM Michael Knigge  wrote:

> FYI:
>
> I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command 
> Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately 
> died in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and 
> help from other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible 
> to contact Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the 
> editor for free (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).

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AW: SPF/SE is available for free

[Michael Knigge]

Some words from Tim's wife bonnie:


I don't have any install files...nothing on the product. I only got involved 
with filling orders but I can no longer access any of Tim's files. I don't have 
his passwords and none of the companies, AOL, Google, Microsoft, etc. would 
give me access even though it was in his Will that I have access. Our attorney 
would have taken up the case but it was going to cost more than the family 
wanted to spend. Apparently with these companies you have to set up Beneficiary 
info in your profile. Wills mean nothing.


So... I don't think that we can get some many people for a crow-founding that 
we collect enough money to pay the attorney


Sadly

Bye,
Michael



Rühmkorffstraße 5 
30163 Hannover 

Telefon: +49 511 330 998 23 
Fax: +49 511 330 998 65 
michael.kni...@set.de 
https://set.de 
Hinweise zum Datenschutz: https://set.de/datenschutz

Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Hannover HRB 52778 
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Farley, Peter
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. November 2022 20:12
An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Betreff: Re: SPF/SE is available for free

I agree with Jay that it still may be possible to recover the source IF the 
files still exist.

I know it probably is possible to set up PW protected or encrypted files to 
"self-destruct" or somehow lock permanently (I assume any agency or company who 
are serious about secrecy all have access to some capability like that), but is 
such a seriously advanced capability really available to "ordinary" folk like 
the SPF developer?

Even assuming the answer to that question is "yes", it would be worth asking if 
a certified "white hat" hacker or company had the capability to unlock such 
files anyway.  Obviously it depends entirely on what the "locking" mechanism 
really was and how permanent the "self-destruct" status is, but I tend to think 
that someone with the necessary credentials could possibly resolve this 
unfortunate situation.  Money would be the first issue of course since no one 
who does such work normally does it gratis, but among those who are real fans 
of the software I am sure some way could be found to fund such an effort, via 
crowd site or more private means.

Any such effort would require his widow's cooperation and official written 
approval of course, but it sounds to me like that would not be an issue.

Another question to ask is if any version of the source was escrowed with a law 
firm or other "rights protecting" organization in order to make a sale to a 
large company?  Many software developers and companies have had to do that to 
protect the rights of large user organizations.  Such a situation might provide 
(with cooperation from the beneficiary(ies) of the escrow) access to some 
version of the original code, though getting it released in the open might take 
lawyers and/or court actions.

Just a couple of thoughts for consideration.

Peter

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Knigge
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 5:59 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: AW: SPF/SE is available for free

Jay,

I've got the following information.


Hello Michael. I contacted his wife and she told me that Tim’s SPF s/w is “gone 
forever”.  Apparently he PW protected it and when she tried to break the PW, it 
self destructed. In any case, according to her, there is no hope for any data 
recovery. Very disappointing.


Sorry

Michael


Mit freundlichen Grüßen 

Michael Knigge
Software Engineer 



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Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  Im Auftrag von 
Jay Maynard
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. November 2022 20:23
An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Betreff: Re: SPF/SE is available for free

Hm. According to the README on the Github site, the source code was stored 
encrypted...are the encrypted files still in existence? Perhaps they can be 
obtained and decrypted. It's a long shot, to be sure, but definitely worth a 
try.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 9:22 AM Michael Knigge  wrote:

> FYI:
>
> I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command 
> Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately 
> died in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and 
> help from other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible 
> to contact Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the 
> editor for free (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).

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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[David Cole]

WRT "Money would be the first issue of course 
since no one who does such work normally does it 
gratis, but among those who are real fans of the 
software I am sure some way could be found to 
fund such an effort, via crowd site or more private means."


If such an effort were to be mounted in any 
realistic way, I for one would be willing to contribute.


Dave Cole






At 11/4/2022 03:12 PM, Farley, Peter wrote:
I agree with Jay that it still may be possible 
to recover the source IF the files still exist.
I know it probably is possible to set up PW 
protected or encrypted files to "self-destruct" 
or somehow lock permanently (I assume any agency 
or company who are serious about secrecy all 
have access to some capability like that), but 
is such a seriously advanced capability really 
available to "ordinary" folk like the SPF developer?
Even assuming the answer to that question is 
"yes", it would be worth asking if a certified 
"white hat" hacker or company had the capability 
to unlock such files anyway.  Obviously it 
depends entirely on what the "locking" mechanism 
really was and how permanent the "self-destruct" 
status is, but I tend to think that someone with 
the necessary credentials could possibly resolve 
this unfortunate situation.  Money would be the 
first issue of course since no one who does such 
work normally does it gratis, but among those 
who are real fans of the software I am sure some 
way could be found to fund such an effort, via 
crowd site or more private means.
Any such effort would require his widow's 
cooperation and official written approval of 
course, but it sounds to me like that would not be an issue.
Another question to ask is if any version of the 
source was escrowed with a law firm or other 
"rights protecting" organization in order to 
make a sale to a large company?  Many software 
developers and companies have had to do that to 
protect the rights of large user 
organizations.  Such a situation might provide 
(with cooperation from the beneficiary(ies) of 
the escrow) access to some version of the 
original code, though getting it released in the 
open might take lawyers and/or court actions.

Just a couple of thoughts for consideration.
Peter
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Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 5:59 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: AW: SPF/SE is available for free
Jay,
I've got the following information.

Hello Michael. I contacted his wife and she 
told me that Tim’s SPF s/w is “gone 
forever”.  Apparently he PW protected it and 
when she tried to break the PW, it self 
destructed. In any case, according to her, 
there is no hope for any data recovery. Very disappointing.


Sorry
Michael

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Michael Knigge
Software Engineer


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Betreff: Re: SPF/SE is available for free
Hm. According to the README on the Github 
site, the source code was stored 
encrypted...are the encrypted files still in 
existence? Perhaps they can be obtained and 
decrypted. It's a long shot, to be sure, but definitely worth a try.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 9:22 AM Michael Knigge  wrote:
> FYI:
>
> I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command
> Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately
> died in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and
> help from other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible
> to contact Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the
> editor for free (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).

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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[Farley, Peter]

I agree with Jay that it still may be possible to recover the source IF the 
files still exist.

I know it probably is possible to set up PW protected or encrypted files to 
"self-destruct" or somehow lock permanently (I assume any agency or company who 
are serious about secrecy all have access to some capability like that), but is 
such a seriously advanced capability really available to "ordinary" folk like 
the SPF developer?

Even assuming the answer to that question is "yes", it would be worth asking if 
a certified "white hat" hacker or company had the capability to unlock such 
files anyway.  Obviously it depends entirely on what the "locking" mechanism 
really was and how permanent the "self-destruct" status is, but I tend to think 
that someone with the necessary credentials could possibly resolve this 
unfortunate situation.  Money would be the first issue of course since no one 
who does such work normally does it gratis, but among those who are real fans 
of the software I am sure some way could be found to fund such an effort, via 
crowd site or more private means.

Any such effort would require his widow's cooperation and official written 
approval of course, but it sounds to me like that would not be an issue.

Another question to ask is if any version of the source was escrowed with a law 
firm or other "rights protecting" organization in order to make a sale to a 
large company?  Many software developers and companies have had to do that to 
protect the rights of large user organizations.  Such a situation might provide 
(with cooperation from the beneficiary(ies) of the escrow) access to some 
version of the original code, though getting it released in the open might take 
lawyers and/or court actions.

Just a couple of thoughts for consideration.

Peter

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Michael Knigge
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 5:59 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: AW: SPF/SE is available for free

Jay,

I've got the following information.


Hello Michael. I contacted his wife and she told me that Tim’s SPF s/w is “gone 
forever”.  Apparently he PW protected it and when she tried to break the PW, it 
self destructed. In any case, according to her, there is no hope for any data 
recovery. Very disappointing.


Sorry

Michael


Mit freundlichen Grüßen 

Michael Knigge
Software Engineer 



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Jay Maynard
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. November 2022 20:23
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Betreff: Re: SPF/SE is available for free

Hm. According to the README on the Github site, the source code was stored 
encrypted...are the encrypted files still in existence? Perhaps they can be 
obtained and decrypted. It's a long shot, to be sure, but definitely worth a 
try.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 9:22 AM Michael Knigge  wrote:

> FYI:
>
> I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command 
> Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately 
> died in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and 
> help from other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible 
> to contact Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the 
> editor for free (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).

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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 14:23:13 -0500, Jay Maynard wrote:

>Hm. According to the README on the Github site, the source code was stored
>encrypted...are the encrypted files still in existence? Perhaps they can be
>obtained and decrypted. It's a long shot, to be sure, but definitely worth
>a try.
>
For cases like this, is there a process where by an author can name a 
beneficiary
for the Github account.

This might be akin to having a beneficiary of a safe deposit box (which might
contain the key on a flash drive.)

(Hmmm... Do cryptocurrency wallets provide for beneficiaries?)

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Not that good.

Every row in the editor has a grey line above and under the row... 


Bye,
Michael




Mit freundlichen Grüßen 

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Software Engineer 


Rühmkorffstraße 5 
30163 Hannover 

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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  Im Auftrag von 
Jay Maynard
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. November 2022 15:35
An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Betreff: Re: SPF/SE is available for free

Thank you for preserving this and making it available.

One question: You say it's picky about fonts...how well does it work with 
Ricardo Banffy's outstanding 3270 font, available at
https://deu01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Frbanffy%2F3270fontdata=05%7C01%7CMichael.Knigge%40SET.DE%7Ccd3ab3739bd14106700808dabc164787%7C42ae95ffd7a840de97e0322d94113a4e%7C0%7C0%7C638029101127967676%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=fWlv5GFFJ0w7QQIU9e4lrKJa3CjFNXAONTuKiA0Sxw0%3Dreserved=0
 ?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 9:22 AM Michael Knigge  wrote:

> FYI:
>
> I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command 
> Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately 
> died in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and 
> help from other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible 
> to contact Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the 
> editor for free (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).
>
> On my GitHub 
> (https://deu01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgit
> hub.com%2Fmichaelknigge%2Fspf-editordata=05%7C01%7CMichael.Knigge
> %40SET.DE%7Ccd3ab3739bd14106700808dabc164787%7C42ae95ffd7a840de97e0322
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>  I made some releases available, together with product keys. I also provide a 
> “professional” installer created with InnoSetup that installs SPF/SE together 
> with some useful macros, file profiles and color schemes (a color scheme that 
> makes SPF/SE look like ISPF).
>
> The original releases can be found here:
> https://deu01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> ub.com%2Fmichaelknigge%2Fspf-editor%2Ftree%2Fmain%2Fbinariesdata=
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>
>
> Bye,
> Michael
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Michael Knigge
> Software Engineer
>
> SET GmbH
> Rühmkorffstraße 5
> 30163 Hannover
>
> Telefon: +49 511 330 998 23
> Fax: +49 511 330 998 65
> michael.kni...@set.de<mailto:michael.kni...@set.de>
> https://deu01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fset.
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[Michael Knigge]

My pleasure

I personally use SPF/SE nearly every day. We have a product that processes 
print files and we also support z/OS - for this reason we often have to handle 
files from z/OS Record oriented files with RECFM=VB  SPF/SE can handle 
them like a charm


Bye,
Michel



Mit freundlichen Grüßen 

Michael Knigge
Software Engineer 


Rühmkorffstraße 5 
30163 Hannover 

Telefon: +49 511 330 998 23 
Fax: +49 511 330 998 65 
michael.kni...@set.de 
https://set.de 
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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  Im Auftrag von 
Mike Shaw
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. November 2022 16:08
An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Betreff: Re: SPF/SE is available for free

Michael,

Thank you for this gift to our community. I used SPF/PC and SPF/SE extensively 
in the past and thought it was gone forever.

Mike Shaw
MVS/QuickRef Support Group
Chicago-Soft, Ltd.


On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 10:22 AM Michael Knigge 
wrote:

> FYI:
>
> I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command 
> Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately 
> died in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and 
> help from other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible 
> to contact Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the 
> editor for free (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).
>
> On my GitHub 
> (https://deu01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgit
> hub.com%2Fmichaelknigge%2Fspf-editordata=05%7C01%7CMichael.Knigge
> %40SET.DE%7C48315463358e43127aba08dabc1b00eb%7C42ae95ffd7a840de97e0322
> d94113a4e%7C0%7C0%7C638029121421943898%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=z5KDWQuQuallNJN0XwqDdZ5Z7KgaZQJvb%2BWCBMRP6Bo%3Dreserved=0)
>  I made some releases available, together with product keys. I also provide a 
> “professional” installer created with InnoSetup that installs SPF/SE together 
> with some useful macros, file profiles and color schemes (a color scheme that 
> makes SPF/SE look like ISPF).
>
> The original releases can be found here:
> https://deu01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> ub.com%2Fmichaelknigge%2Fspf-editor%2Ftree%2Fmain%2Fbinariesdata=
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> My installers can be found here:
> https://deu01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> ub.com%2Fmichaelknigge%2Fspf-editor%2Freleasesdata=05%7C01%7CMich
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>
>
> Bye,
> Michael
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Michael Knigge
> Software Engineer
>
> SET GmbH
> Rühmkorffstraße 5
> 30163 Hannover
>
> Telefon: +49 511 330 998 23
> Fax: +49 511 330 998 65
> michael.kni...@set.de<mailto:michael.kni...@set.de>
> https://deu01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fset.
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[Michael Knigge]

Jay,

I've got the following information.


Hello Michael. I contacted his wife and she told me that Tim’s SPF s/w is “gone 
forever”.  Apparently he PW protected it and when she tried to break the PW, it 
self destructed. In any case, according to her, there is no hope for any data 
recovery. Very disappointing.



Sorry

Michael


Mit freundlichen Grüßen 

Michael Knigge
Software Engineer 


Rühmkorffstraße 5 
30163 Hannover 

Telefon: +49 511 330 998 23 
Fax: +49 511 330 998 65 
michael.kni...@set.de 
https://set.de 
Hinweise zum Datenschutz: https://set.de/datenschutz

Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Hannover HRB 52778 
​Geschäftsführer: Dr.-Ing. Tobias Baum, Dr.-Ing. Arthur Brack


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  Im Auftrag von 
Jay Maynard
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. November 2022 20:23
An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Betreff: Re: SPF/SE is available for free

Hm. According to the README on the Github site, the source code was stored 
encrypted...are the encrypted files still in existence? Perhaps they can be 
obtained and decrypted. It's a long shot, to be sure, but definitely worth a 
try.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 9:22 AM Michael Knigge  wrote:

> FYI:
>
> I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command 
> Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately 
> died in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and 
> help from other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible 
> to contact Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the 
> editor for free (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).
>
> On my GitHub 
> (https://deu01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgit
> hub.com%2Fmichaelknigge%2Fspf-editordata=05%7C01%7CMichael.Knigge
> %40SET.DE%7C107f1872bc0d41b5c4b808dabc3e943b%7C42ae95ffd7a840de97e0322
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>  I made some releases available, together with product keys. I also provide a 
> “professional” installer created with InnoSetup that installs SPF/SE together 
> with some useful macros, file profiles and color schemes (a color scheme that 
> makes SPF/SE look like ISPF).
>
> The original releases can be found here:
> https://deu01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgith
> ub.com%2Fmichaelknigge%2Fspf-editor%2Ftree%2Fmain%2Fbinariesdata=
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> My installers can be found here:
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>
> Bye,
> Michael
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Michael Knigge
> Software Engineer
>
> SET GmbH
> Rühmkorffstraße 5
> 30163 Hannover
>
> Telefon: +49 511 330 998 23
> Fax: +49 511 330 998 65
> michael.kni...@set.de<mailto:michael.kni...@set.de>
> https://deu01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fset.
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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[Robert Prins]

You might want to try DOSBox-X, <http://dosbox-x.com/>

Robert

On Tue, 1 Nov 2022 at 19:03, Schmitt, Michael 
wrote:

> The problem with SPF/PC in DOSBox isn't memory management, it was
> something about text modes. The problem was that DOSBox was created for
> running DOS games, not text applications like SPF/PC. I don't have DOSBox
> installed right now, but I /think/ the problem was that DOSBox running
> SPF/PC was slow, because it was treating the window as a graphic image
> instead of as text. So you lost the whole point of SPF/PC which was
> lighting fast response time.
>
> I think I've got my SPF history mixed up.
>
> SPF/Win was released. One version was from 1995.
>
>
> SPF/Professional was from 1996 or so. I think it was SPF/Win renamed, with
> integration with CA-Realia and Micro Focus Workbench. Plus it could run
> ISPF dialogs! That's the version I beta tested.
>
> I'm running SPF/Pro 5.0.Beta3 Dialog Developer Edition. Does this mean
> that CTC never released SPF/Pro?
>
> I have the files for SPF/Pro, and the original install media (micro floppy
> of course).
>
>
> SPF/SourceEdit was from 1997, and dropped REXX for having the macros in C.
> Which meant that you it isn't compatible with z/OS REXX macros at all. And
> it dropped the emulation of the ISPF dialog manager.
>
> I really don't know why CTC made the big break from SPF/Pro to SPF/SE. I
> still like SPF/Pro much better, but as I said, it crashes on newer Windows
> more than SPF/SE (which for version 3.5 also crashes).  SPF/Pro just now
> crashed on me with MEM_BAD_POINTER from SmartHeap Library.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of Schmitt, Michael
> Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 10:56 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: SPF/SE is available for free
>
> Cool!
>
> I still use SPF/SE, in fact was using it just yesterday. But I have SPF/SE
> 3.5 build 614 so yours is a lot newer.
>
> CTC had different iterations of the product:
>
>  - SPF/PC: ran in DOS, but used special memory management to edit larger
> files. SPF/PC can still run under DOSBox but not very well
>
>  - SPF/Win: SPF for Windows. I think I beta tested it but it was never
> released?
>
>  - SPF/Professional: The first released SPF for Windows? Still runs but
> crashes sometimes
>
>  - SPF/SE
>
> In my opinion, the best SPF was SPF/Pro:
>
>  - Closer emulation of ISPF Edit than SPF/SE
>  - Runs REXX Edit Macros
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of Michael Knigge
> Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 9:22 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: SPF/SE is available for free
>
> FYI:
>
> I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command
> Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately died
> in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and help from
> other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible to contact
> Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the editor for free
> (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).
>
> On my GitHub (
> https://clicktime.symantec.com/15tStaqvHaWmhJEwKL5vF?h=k8C7L5Qfruh4B5XLObxAA9jbAcEwjGal4BxXv4aqqBA==https://clicktime.symantec.com/15uBY2TEUMBPKjdD7Gs5P?h=wCfUoHcHszVrATO96Ke5bYHZd6rw1qtnd_p7Srrdf4U==https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor%29
> I made some releases available, together with product keys. I also provide
> a “professional” installer created with InnoSetup that installs SPF/SE
> together with some useful macros, file profiles and color schemes (a color
> scheme that makes SPF/SE look like ISPF).
>
> The original releases can be found here:
> https://clicktime.symantec.com/15tT4FEVCosxXBtnQStDV?h=a42samARJUjgBVHNnAkLJC62sUfwYr-r52P2hTOol2s==https://clicktime.symantec.com/15uBhgqoPaYa9dH4CPfNd?h=oEt5eCV4ImsXasjn5RS9LX6t0lpHrAtuLb67MZ-D1ek==https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/tree/main/binaries
>
> My installers can be found here:
> https://clicktime.symantec.com/15tSyR3CkCCN7F4rrtV4s?h=JETYbGTlNFfLh2RSQ0-u8IF48iTbmm4wmhcTxO4DALQ==https://clicktime.symantec.com/15uBcreWvxryjgT8eqGE1?h=s5UECHYEIYvYIKLamz_1q2dsbFSHwWlvBKGx2Noi7eU==https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/releases
>
>
> Bye,
> Michael
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Michael Knigge
> Software Engineer
>
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>
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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[rpinion865]

Slightly off topic, at one time I had a Linux ISPF editor.  I don't remember 
the name.  I installed it under S/390 Linux.  This would have been some time 
between 2002 and 2010.




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On Tuesday, November 1st, 2022 at 3:23 PM, Jay Maynard  
wrote:


> Hm. According to the README on the Github site, the source code was stored
> encrypted...are the encrypted files still in existence? Perhaps they can be
> obtained and decrypted. It's a long shot, to be sure, but definitely worth
> a try.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 9:22 AM Michael Knigge michael.kni...@set.de wrote:
> 
> > FYI:
> > 
> > I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command
> > Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately died
> > in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and help from
> > other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible to contact
> > Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the editor for free
> > (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).
> > 
> > On my GitHub (https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor) I made some
> > releases available, together with product keys. I also provide a
> > “professional” installer created with InnoSetup that installs SPF/SE
> > together with some useful macros, file profiles and color schemes (a color
> > scheme that makes SPF/SE look like ISPF).
> > 
> > The original releases can be found here:
> > https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/tree/main/binaries
> > 
> > My installers can be found here:
> > https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/releases
> > 
> > Bye,
> > Michael
> > 
> > Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> > 
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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[Jay Maynard]

Hm. According to the README on the Github site, the source code was stored
encrypted...are the encrypted files still in existence? Perhaps they can be
obtained and decrypted. It's a long shot, to be sure, but definitely worth
a try.

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 9:22 AM Michael Knigge  wrote:

> FYI:
>
> I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command
> Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately died
> in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and help from
> other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible to contact
> Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the editor for free
> (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).
>
> On my GitHub (https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor) I made some
> releases available, together with product keys. I also provide a
> “professional” installer created with InnoSetup that installs SPF/SE
> together with some useful macros, file profiles and color schemes (a color
> scheme that makes SPF/SE look like ISPF).
>
> The original releases can be found here:
> https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/tree/main/binaries
>
> My installers can be found here:
> https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/releases
>
>
> Bye,
> Michael
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Michael Knigge
> Software Engineer
>
> SET GmbH
> Rühmkorffstraße 5
> 30163 Hannover
>
> Telefon: +49 511 330 998 23
> Fax: +49 511 330 998 65
> michael.kni...@set.de
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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[Schmitt, Michael]

The problem with SPF/PC in DOSBox isn't memory management, it was something 
about text modes. The problem was that DOSBox was created for running DOS 
games, not text applications like SPF/PC. I don't have DOSBox installed right 
now, but I /think/ the problem was that DOSBox running SPF/PC was slow, because 
it was treating the window as a graphic image instead of as text. So you lost 
the whole point of SPF/PC which was lighting fast response time.

I think I've got my SPF history mixed up.

SPF/Win was released. One version was from 1995.


SPF/Professional was from 1996 or so. I think it was SPF/Win renamed, with 
integration with CA-Realia and Micro Focus Workbench. Plus it could run ISPF 
dialogs! That's the version I beta tested.

I'm running SPF/Pro 5.0.Beta3 Dialog Developer Edition. Does this mean that CTC 
never released SPF/Pro?

I have the files for SPF/Pro, and the original install media (micro floppy of 
course).


SPF/SourceEdit was from 1997, and dropped REXX for having the macros in C. 
Which meant that you it isn't compatible with z/OS REXX macros at all. And it 
dropped the emulation of the ISPF dialog manager.

I really don't know why CTC made the big break from SPF/Pro to SPF/SE. I still 
like SPF/Pro much better, but as I said, it crashes on newer Windows more than 
SPF/SE (which for version 3.5 also crashes).  SPF/Pro just now crashed on me 
with MEM_BAD_POINTER from SmartHeap Library.


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Schmitt, Michael
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 10:56 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SPF/SE is available for free

Cool!

I still use SPF/SE, in fact was using it just yesterday. But I have SPF/SE 3.5 
build 614 so yours is a lot newer.

CTC had different iterations of the product:

 - SPF/PC: ran in DOS, but used special memory management to edit larger files. 
SPF/PC can still run under DOSBox but not very well

 - SPF/Win: SPF for Windows. I think I beta tested it but it was never released?

 - SPF/Professional: The first released SPF for Windows? Still runs but crashes 
sometimes

 - SPF/SE

In my opinion, the best SPF was SPF/Pro:

 - Closer emulation of ISPF Edit than SPF/SE
 - Runs REXX Edit Macros

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Knigge
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 9:22 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: SPF/SE is available for free

FYI:

I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command Technology. 
The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately died in 2022 as a 
result of a corona infection. With some research and help from other SPF users 
(namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible to contact Tim's wife Bonnie. She 
gave us permission to distribute the editor for free (sadly the source code is 
“lost” forever).

On my GitHub 
(https://clicktime.symantec.com/15tStaqvHaWmhJEwKL5vF?h=k8C7L5Qfruh4B5XLObxAA9jbAcEwjGal4BxXv4aqqBA==https://clicktime.symantec.com/15uBY2TEUMBPKjdD7Gs5P?h=wCfUoHcHszVrATO96Ke5bYHZd6rw1qtnd_p7Srrdf4U==https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor%29
 I made some releases available, together with product keys. I also provide a 
“professional” installer created with InnoSetup that installs SPF/SE together 
with some useful macros, file profiles and color schemes (a color scheme that 
makes SPF/SE look like ISPF).

The original releases can be found here: 
https://clicktime.symantec.com/15tT4FEVCosxXBtnQStDV?h=a42samARJUjgBVHNnAkLJC62sUfwYr-r52P2hTOol2s==https://clicktime.symantec.com/15uBhgqoPaYa9dH4CPfNd?h=oEt5eCV4ImsXasjn5RS9LX6t0lpHrAtuLb67MZ-D1ek==https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/tree/main/binaries

My installers can be found here: 
https://clicktime.symantec.com/15tSyR3CkCCN7F4rrtV4s?h=JETYbGTlNFfLh2RSQ0-u8IF48iTbmm4wmhcTxO4DALQ==https://clicktime.symantec.com/15uBcreWvxryjgT8eqGE1?h=s5UECHYEIYvYIKLamz_1q2dsbFSHwWlvBKGx2Noi7eU==https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/releases


Bye,
Michael



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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[Seymour J Metz]

True, but Tritus paid much more attention to ISPF compatibility, and TSPF is 
still my preferred editor on my desktop.


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On 11/1/22 9:56 AM, Schmitt, Michael wrote:
> CTC had different iterations of the product:
>
>   - SPF/PC: ran in DOS, but used special memory management to edit larger 
> files. SPF/PC can still run under DOSBox but not very well

N.B. My boxed copy of version 4.0 of SPF/PC states that it is "for OS/2
and DOS".  So SFP/PC apparently ran in OS/2 as well.



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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[Paul Gorlinsky]

Grant, Are you aware that Apple’s OS is a certified Unix OS?

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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[Grant Taylor]

On 11/1/22 9:56 AM, Schmitt, Michael wrote:

CTC had different iterations of the product:

  - SPF/PC: ran in DOS, but used special memory management to edit larger 
files. SPF/PC can still run under DOSBox but not very well


N.B. My boxed copy of version 4.0 of SPF/PC states that it is "for OS/2 
and DOS".  So SFP/PC apparently ran in OS/2 as well.




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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[Grant Taylor]

On 11/1/22 9:56 AM, Schmitt, Michael wrote:

CTC had different iterations of the product:

  - SPF/PC: ran in DOS, but used special memory management to edit larger 
files. SPF/PC can still run under DOSBox but not very well


I have a boxed coy of SPF/PC.  Does, or can, Bonnie's gift extend to the 
SPF/PC files that I have?  If so, I'd be happy to get copies of them to 
the proper parties to grow the collection.




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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[Schmitt, Michael]

Cool!

I still use SPF/SE, in fact was using it just yesterday. But I have SPF/SE 3.5 
build 614 so yours is a lot newer.

CTC had different iterations of the product:

 - SPF/PC: ran in DOS, but used special memory management to edit larger files. 
SPF/PC can still run under DOSBox but not very well

 - SPF/Win: SPF for Windows. I think I beta tested it but it was never released?

 - SPF/Professional: The first released SPF for Windows? Still runs but crashes 
sometimes

 - SPF/SE

In my opinion, the best SPF was SPF/Pro:

 - Closer emulation of ISPF Edit than SPF/SE
 - Runs REXX Edit Macros

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Knigge
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2022 9:22 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: SPF/SE is available for free

FYI:

I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command Technology. 
The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately died in 2022 as a 
result of a corona infection. With some research and help from other SPF users 
(namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible to contact Tim's wife Bonnie. She 
gave us permission to distribute the editor for free (sadly the source code is 
“lost” forever).

On my GitHub 
(https://clicktime.symantec.com/15tStaqvHaWmhJEwKL5vF?h=k8C7L5Qfruh4B5XLObxAA9jbAcEwjGal4BxXv4aqqBA==https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor)
 I made some releases available, together with product keys. I also provide a 
“professional” installer created with InnoSetup that installs SPF/SE together 
with some useful macros, file profiles and color schemes (a color scheme that 
makes SPF/SE look like ISPF).

The original releases can be found here: 
https://clicktime.symantec.com/15tT4FEVCosxXBtnQStDV?h=a42samARJUjgBVHNnAkLJC62sUfwYr-r52P2hTOol2s==https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/tree/main/binaries

My installers can be found here: 
https://clicktime.symantec.com/15tSyR3CkCCN7F4rrtV4s?h=JETYbGTlNFfLh2RSQ0-u8IF48iTbmm4wmhcTxO4DALQ==https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/releases


Bye,
Michael



Mit freundlichen Grüßen

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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[Mike Shaw]

Michael,

Thank you for this gift to our community. I used SPF/PC and SPF/SE
extensively in the past and thought it was gone forever.

Mike Shaw
MVS/QuickRef Support Group
Chicago-Soft, Ltd.


On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 10:22 AM Michael Knigge 
wrote:

> FYI:
>
> I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command
> Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately died
> in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and help from
> other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible to contact
> Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the editor for free
> (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).
>
> On my GitHub (https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor) I made some
> releases available, together with product keys. I also provide a
> “professional” installer created with InnoSetup that installs SPF/SE
> together with some useful macros, file profiles and color schemes (a color
> scheme that makes SPF/SE look like ISPF).
>
> The original releases can be found here:
> https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/tree/main/binaries
>
> My installers can be found here:
> https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/releases
>
>
> Bye,
> Michael
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Michael Knigge
> Software Engineer
>
> SET GmbH
> Rühmkorffstraße 5
> 30163 Hannover
>
> Telefon: +49 511 330 998 23
> Fax: +49 511 330 998 65
> michael.kni...@set.de
> https://set.de
> Hinweise zum Datenschutz: https://set.de/datenschutz
>
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Re: SPF/SE is available for free

[Jay Maynard]

Thank you for preserving this and making it available.

One question: You say it's picky about fonts...how well does it work with
Ricardo Banffy's outstanding 3270 font, available at
https://github.com/rbanffy/3270font ?

On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 9:22 AM Michael Knigge  wrote:

> FYI:
>
> I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command
> Technology. The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately died
> in 2022 as a result of a corona infection. With some research and help from
> other SPF users (namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible to contact
> Tim's wife Bonnie. She gave us permission to distribute the editor for free
> (sadly the source code is “lost” forever).
>
> On my GitHub (https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor) I made some
> releases available, together with product keys. I also provide a
> “professional” installer created with InnoSetup that installs SPF/SE
> together with some useful macros, file profiles and color schemes (a color
> scheme that makes SPF/SE look like ISPF).
>
> The original releases can be found here:
> https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/tree/main/binaries
>
> My installers can be found here:
> https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/releases
>
>
> Bye,
> Michael
>
>
>
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>
> Michael Knigge
> Software Engineer
>
> SET GmbH
> Rühmkorffstraße 5
> 30163 Hannover
>
> Telefon: +49 511 330 998 23
> Fax: +49 511 330 998 65
> michael.kni...@set.de
> https://set.de
> Hinweise zum Datenschutz: https://set.de/datenschutz
>
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SPF/SE is available for free

[Michael Knigge]

FYI:

I guess some of you guys use SPF/SE (SPF SourceEdit) from Command Technology. 
The editor was developed by Tim Tetivia, who unfortunately died in 2022 as a 
result of a corona infection. With some research and help from other SPF users 
(namely Peter aka Verizon), it was possible to contact Tim's wife Bonnie. She 
gave us permission to distribute the editor for free (sadly the source code is 
“lost” forever).

On my GitHub (https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor) I made some releases 
available, together with product keys. I also provide a “professional” 
installer created with InnoSetup that installs SPF/SE together with some useful 
macros, file profiles and color schemes (a color scheme that makes SPF/SE look 
like ISPF).

The original releases can be found here: 
https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/tree/main/binaries

My installers can be found here: 
https://github.com/michaelknigge/spf-editor/releases


Bye,
Michael



Mit freundlichen Grüßen

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Software Engineer

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