Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

2012-12-21 Thread R.S.

Q: are you sure the method will not work with tape datasets?
Just curious
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W dniu 2012-12-20 18:30, George, William@FTB pisze:

Thanks. A small detail I, again forgot, is these are TAPE datasets.  :(
Otherwise this would be a nice method.

Bill


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George ,

Just  to clarify ICEMAN is the program name for DFSORT. You can invoke
DFSORT with PGM=ICEMAN. DFSORT's official three character identifier is
ICE, so all of the DFSORT modules start with ICE (ICEMAN, ICETOOL,
ICEGENER, etc) and all of the DFSORT messages start with ICE (ICExxxs).
other sort products(Syncsort, ca-sort) use (SORT,ICEMAN) as an alias.

Coming to your requirement, it is quite easy with batch version of
Extended Search-For Utility (3.15). The String found indicator is
mentioned by a numeric and at the bottom of the listing you will find
corresponding dataset name.


//SEARCH  EXEC PGM=ISRSUPC,PARM=(SRCHCMP,'')
//NEWDD   DD DSN=Your GDG Base name,
//   DISP=SHR
//OUTDD  DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN  DD *
SRCHFOR  'your search string'
//*

Sri Hari Kolusu

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From: George, William@FTB william.geo...@ftb.ca.gov
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Date: 12/20/2012 09:08 AM
Subject: Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN
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Sorry for the lack of a more descriptive subject. I did mean to go
back and put one in but plain forgot.  That seems to be happening a
bit more than before. Hmmm.


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Subject: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

I have a need to check 50 datasets (50 gens of a GDG) and extract
records that match my criteria. I also would like to know which
dataset in the concatenation the record was extracted from by adding
an indicator to the output record.  Is this possible via Syncsort or
ICEMAN?



I've made a quick scan of the Syncsort guide but now will dig deeper
but thought I'd throw this question out also to hopefully help
expedite the answer.




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Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

2012-12-21 Thread Robert Bardos2
quote
I have a need to check 50 datasets (50 gens of a GDG)
and extract records that match my criteria. I also would
like to know which dataset in the concatenation the record
was extracted from by adding an indicator to the output
record.  Is this possible via Syncsort or ICEMAN?
unquote

If you have SAS that's pretty easy. Somewhat like

data _null_ ;
  length gdgdsn $44 ;
  infile gdgddn filename=gdgdsn ;
  input ;
  if index(_infile_,'your_search_string_here') ;
  file outddn ;
  put gdgdsn $44. +1 _infile_ ;
run ;

Infile option FILENAME= identifies the respective catenands
of your gdg concatentation. The IF statement in this simple
form is referred to as 'subsetting if' ie. it works like
a filter.


Kind regards
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Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

2012-12-21 Thread George, William@FTB
No SAS


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quote
I have a need to check 50 datasets (50 gens of a GDG)
and extract records that match my criteria. I also would
like to know which dataset in the concatenation the record
was extracted from by adding an indicator to the output
record.  Is this possible via Syncsort or ICEMAN?
unquote

If you have SAS that's pretty easy. Somewhat like

data _null_ ;
  length gdgdsn $44 ;
  infile gdgddn filename=gdgdsn ;
  input ;
  if index(_infile_,'your_search_string_here') ;
  file outddn ;
  put gdgdsn $44. +1 _infile_ ;
run ;

Infile option FILENAME= identifies the respective catenands
of your gdg concatentation. The IF statement in this simple
form is referred to as 'subsetting if' ie. it works like
a filter.


Kind regards
Robert

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SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

2012-12-20 Thread George, William@FTB
I have a need to check 50 datasets (50 gens of a GDG) and extract
records that match my criteria. I also would like to know which dataset
in the concatenation the record was extracted from by adding an
indicator to the output record.  Is this possible via Syncsort or
ICEMAN?

 

I've made a quick scan of the Syncsort guide but now will dig deeper but
thought I'd throw this question out also to hopefully help expedite the
answer.

 

Thanks

Bill

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Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

2012-12-20 Thread George, William@FTB
Sorry for the lack of a more descriptive subject. I did mean to go back
and put one in but plain forgot.  That seems to be happening a bit more
than before. Hmmm. 


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Subject: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

I have a need to check 50 datasets (50 gens of a GDG) and extract
records that match my criteria. I also would like to know which dataset
in the concatenation the record was extracted from by adding an
indicator to the output record.  Is this possible via Syncsort or
ICEMAN?

 

I've made a quick scan of the Syncsort guide but now will dig deeper but
thought I'd throw this question out also to hopefully help expedite the
answer.

 

Thanks

Bill

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Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

2012-12-20 Thread Sri h Kolusu
George ,

Just  to clarify ICEMAN is the program name for DFSORT. You can invoke 
DFSORT with PGM=ICEMAN. DFSORT's official three character identifier is 
ICE, so all of the DFSORT modules start with ICE (ICEMAN, ICETOOL, 
ICEGENER, etc) and all of the DFSORT messages start with ICE (ICExxxs).
other sort products(Syncsort, ca-sort) use (SORT,ICEMAN) as an alias.

Coming to your requirement, it is quite easy with batch version of 
Extended Search-For Utility (3.15). The String found indicator is 
mentioned by a numeric and at the bottom of the listing you will find 
corresponding dataset name.


//SEARCH  EXEC PGM=ISRSUPC,PARM=(SRCHCMP,'') 
//NEWDD   DD DSN=Your GDG Base name, 
//   DISP=SHR 
//OUTDD  DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSIN  DD * 
SRCHFOR  'your search string' 
//* 

Sri Hari Kolusu

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 From: George, William@FTB william.geo...@ftb.ca.gov
 To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, 
 Date: 12/20/2012 09:08 AM
 Subject: Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN
 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
 
 Sorry for the lack of a more descriptive subject. I did mean to go back
 and put one in but plain forgot.  That seems to be happening a bit more
 than before. Hmmm. 
 
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of George, William@FTB
 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:57 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN
 
 I have a need to check 50 datasets (50 gens of a GDG) and extract
 records that match my criteria. I also would like to know which dataset
 in the concatenation the record was extracted from by adding an
 indicator to the output record.  Is this possible via Syncsort or
 ICEMAN?
 
 
 
 I've made a quick scan of the Syncsort guide but now will dig deeper but
 thought I'd throw this question out also to hopefully help expedite the
 answer.
 
 
 
 Thanks
 
 Bill
 
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Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

2012-12-20 Thread George, William@FTB
Thanks. A small detail I, again forgot, is these are TAPE datasets.  :(
Otherwise this would be a nice method. 

Bill


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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 9:22 AM
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Subject: Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

George ,

Just  to clarify ICEMAN is the program name for DFSORT. You can invoke
DFSORT with PGM=ICEMAN. DFSORT's official three character identifier is
ICE, so all of the DFSORT modules start with ICE (ICEMAN, ICETOOL,
ICEGENER, etc) and all of the DFSORT messages start with ICE (ICExxxs).
other sort products(Syncsort, ca-sort) use (SORT,ICEMAN) as an alias.

Coming to your requirement, it is quite easy with batch version of
Extended Search-For Utility (3.15). The String found indicator is
mentioned by a numeric and at the bottom of the listing you will find
corresponding dataset name.


//SEARCH  EXEC PGM=ISRSUPC,PARM=(SRCHCMP,'') 
//NEWDD   DD DSN=Your GDG Base name, 
//   DISP=SHR 
//OUTDD  DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN  DD *
SRCHFOR  'your search string' 
//* 

Sri Hari Kolusu

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 From: George, William@FTB william.geo...@ftb.ca.gov
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 Date: 12/20/2012 09:08 AM
 Subject: Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN
 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
 
 Sorry for the lack of a more descriptive subject. I did mean to go 
 back and put one in but plain forgot.  That seems to be happening a 
 bit more than before. Hmmm.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of George, William@FTB
 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 8:57 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN
 
 I have a need to check 50 datasets (50 gens of a GDG) and extract 
 records that match my criteria. I also would like to know which 
 dataset in the concatenation the record was extracted from by adding 
 an indicator to the output record.  Is this possible via Syncsort or 
 ICEMAN?
 
 
 
 I've made a quick scan of the Syncsort guide but now will dig deeper 
 but thought I'd throw this question out also to hopefully help 
 expedite the answer.
 
 
 
 Thanks
 
 Bill
 
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Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

2012-12-20 Thread Mike Schwab
How about testing with 1 GDG to 1 DSN, keeping the records.
Once satisfied, do a change all and submit for the other 49 GDGs.
When done, delete the empty datasets and utilize the remainder with records.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:30 AM, George, William@FTB
william.geo...@ftb.ca.gov wrote:
 Thanks. A small detail I, again forgot, is these are TAPE datasets.  :(
 Otherwise this would be a nice method.

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Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

2012-12-20 Thread Massimo Biancucci
I hope I did fully understand your question.
 
I think you could solve using different steps with quite similar include and 
outrec cards or something like the following (only for two files and you can 
extend for the needed using the correct disposition):
 
//ST011    EXEC  PGM=ICETOOL   
//TOOLMSG   DD   SYSOUT=*  
//DFSMSG    DD   SYSOUT=*  
//SI01 DD *    
A1234567890    
B1234567890    
C1234567890    
D1234567890    
/* 
//SI02 DD *    
A1234567890    
B1234567890    
C1234567890    
D1234567890    
/* 
//SO01 DD SYSOUT=* 
//SO02 DD SYSOUT=* 
//TOOLIN   DD   *  
 COPY FROM(SI01) TO(SO01) USING(CTL1)  
 COPY FROM(SI02) TO(SO02) USING(CTL2)  
/* 
//CTL1CNTL DD *    
 INCLUDE COND=(1,1,CH,EQ,C'A') 
 OUTREC FIELDS=(C'01',1,80)    
/* 
//CTL2CNTL DD *    
 INCLUDE COND=(1,1,CH,EQ,C'A') 
 OUTREC FIELDS=(C'02',1,80)  
/*   
 
If you meant something doing all the job automagically  :D, then I don't 
know.
 
Regards.
Max
 
 
  


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A: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Inviato: Giovedì 20 Dicembre 2012 17:57
Oggetto: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN
  
I have a need to check 50 datasets (50 gens of a GDG) and extract
records that match my criteria. I also would like to know which dataset
in the concatenation the record was extracted from by adding an
indicator to the output record.  Is this possible via Syncsort or
ICEMAN?



I've made a quick scan of the Syncsort guide but now will dig deeper but
thought I'd throw this question out also to hopefully help expedite the
answer.



Thanks

Bill

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Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

2012-12-20 Thread George, William@FTB
I'm doing something similar.
I have one job with 50 steps. The output dataset is the same in all
(MOD'ed).
Each step has an OUTREC statement that tacks on to the end of the output
record the generation is was found in.
Just was hoping to be able to do this in one step.

Thanks
Bill

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How about testing with 1 GDG to 1 DSN, keeping the records.
Once satisfied, do a change all and submit for the other 49 GDGs.
When done, delete the empty datasets and utilize the remainder with
records.

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:30 AM, George, William@FTB
william.geo...@ftb.ca.gov wrote:
 Thanks. A small detail I, again forgot, is these are TAPE datasets.  
 :( Otherwise this would be a nice method.

 Bill


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Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

2012-12-20 Thread George, William@FTB
Not bad. I like it. In my previous post I show I'm doing something somewhat 
similar by tacking on the indicator of the file it came from BUT... in 50 
steps. With the below I probably could do it in one. 

Bill

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I hope I did fully understand your question.
 
I think you could solve using different steps with quite similar include and 
outrec cards or something like the following (only for two files and you can 
extend for the needed using the correct disposition):
 
//ST011    EXEC  PGM=ICETOOL //TOOLMSG   DD   SYSOUT=* //DFSMSG    DD   SYSOUT=*
//SI01 DD *
A1234567890
B1234567890
C1234567890
D1234567890
/*
//SI02 DD *
A1234567890
B1234567890
C1234567890
D1234567890
/*
//SO01 DD SYSOUT=*
//SO02 DD SYSOUT=* //TOOLIN   DD   *
 COPY FROM(SI01) TO(SO01) USING(CTL1)
 COPY FROM(SI02) TO(SO02) USING(CTL2)
/* //CTL1CNTL DD *
 INCLUDE COND=(1,1,CH,EQ,C'A')
 OUTREC FIELDS=(C'01',1,80)
/* //CTL2CNTL DD *
 INCLUDE COND=(1,1,CH,EQ,C'A')
 OUTREC FIELDS=(C'02',1,80)
/*   
 
If you meant something doing all the job automagically  :D, then I don't 
know.
 
Regards.
Max
 
 
  


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Inviato: Giovedì 20 Dicembre 2012 17:57
Oggetto: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN
  
I have a need to check 50 datasets (50 gens of a GDG) and extract records that 
match my criteria. I also would like to know which dataset in the concatenation 
the record was extracted from by adding an indicator to the output record.  Is 
this possible via Syncsort or ICEMAN?



I've made a quick scan of the Syncsort guide but now will dig deeper but 
thought I'd throw this question out also to hopefully help expedite the answer.



Thanks

Bill

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Re: SYNCSORT or ICEMAN

2012-12-20 Thread Scott Barry
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 08:57:16 -0800, George, William@FTB 
william.geo...@ftb.ca.gov wrote:

I have a need to check 50 datasets (50 gens of a GDG) and extract
records that match my criteria. I also would like to know which dataset
in the concatenation the record was extracted from by adding an
indicator to the output record.  Is this possible via Syncsort or
ICEMAN?

 

I've made a quick scan of the Syncsort guide but now will dig deeper but
thought I'd throw this question out also to hopefully help expedite the
answer.

 

Thanks

Bill


Look at using ISPF SRCHFOR (3.14) in batch-mode - a quick test demonstrated 
that the correct input dataset name is revealed, even with a concatenation, 
though in a separate message/line.

Scott  Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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