Re: Short on Storage

2017-10-17 Thread sherob2 sherob
Have you looked at your shutdown stats?  How about doing a STAT and taking a 
look at them.


Hoping you have this setup at least...


Hughes



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Where is the storage shortage - below or above the line?
The DFH* msg will tell you.
If above the line, just increase the  EDSALIM (you should be using IEFUSI exit 
set to allow max above the line storage and REGION=0M).
If below, check with MVS group that DSALIM is at the max you can get for your 
lpar.
If below and at max DSALIM, you have problems.

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We periodically have Short on Storage conditions with CICS.  Not being a CICS 
person, I'm trying to find out what can be done to monitor and or prevent Short 
on Storage conditions.  Of the top, I don't think it's really possible to 
expect we'd be able to absolutely prevent them.  Basically, how can the CICS 
guys be proactive in trying to prevent the SOS condition.  Also, is there a way 
our Operations staff could react quickly to relieve the SOS condition prior to 
calling the CICS guy, waiting for him to VPN into the system to troubleshoot 
etc...

TIA

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Re: Short on Storage

2017-10-17 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Where is the storage shortage - below or above the line?
The DFH* msg will tell you.
If above the line, just increase the  EDSALIM (you should be using IEFUSI exit 
set to allow max above the line storage and REGION=0M).
If below, check with MVS group that DSALIM is at the max you can get for your 
lpar.
If below and at max DSALIM, you have problems.

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Subject: Short on Storage

We periodically have Short on Storage conditions with CICS.  Not being a CICS 
person, I'm trying to find out what can be done to monitor and or prevent Short 
on Storage conditions.  Of the top, I don't think it's really possible to 
expect we'd be able to absolutely prevent them.  Basically, how can the CICS 
guys be proactive in trying to prevent the SOS condition.  Also, is there a way 
our Operations staff could react quickly to relieve the SOS condition prior to 
calling the CICS guy, waiting for him to VPN into the system to troubleshoot 
etc...

TIA

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Re: Short on Storage

2017-10-17 Thread TSDunlap

On 10/17/2017 12:43 PM, gsg wrote:

We periodically have Short on Storage conditions with CICS.  Not being a CICS 
person, I'm trying to find out what can be done to monitor and or prevent Short 
on Storage conditions.  Of the top, I don't think it's really possible to 
expect we'd be able to absolutely prevent them.  Basically, how can the CICS 
guys be proactive in trying to prevent the SOS condition.  Also, is there a way 
our Operations staff could react quickly to relieve the SOS condition prior to 
calling the CICS guy, waiting for him to VPN into the system to troubleshoot 
etc...

TIA

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It is possible to dynamically raise the limit CICS is using.  You have 
to enter the following CEMT transaction from the console:


    CEMT  SET  DSAS  DSALIMIT(nnM) for SOS below the line

    CEMT  SET  DSAS  EDSALIMIT(M) for SOS above the line

where nn or  is the number of megabytes for the new limit

Caution, do not consume all of the free z/OS storage, leave a megabyte 
or two below the line and a couple of 100 megabytes above the line for 
z/OS usage.


If you have a real-time monitor like Omegamon, is should be easy to 
monitor the DSA usage.  Also, if you have an automation tool, you could 
run a script based upon the DFHSM message for SOS to issue the CEMT 
transaction via the console to alter the limit.


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Re: Short on Storage

2017-10-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
If you were not aware, there is also a CICS list that might be helpful

To join, if you have not done so, go to this URL

CICShttp://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/cics-l.html

Lizette 

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> Behalf Of gsg
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> 
> We periodically have Short on Storage conditions with CICS.  Not being a CICS
> person, I'm trying to find out what can be done to monitor and or prevent
> Short on Storage conditions.  Of the top, I don't think it's really possible
> to expect we'd be able to absolutely prevent them.  Basically, how can the
> CICS guys be proactive in trying to prevent the SOS condition.  Also, is
> there a way our Operations staff could react quickly to relieve the SOS
> condition prior to calling the CICS guy, waiting for him to VPN into the
> system to troubleshoot etc...
> 
> TIA
> 

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Re: Short on Storage

2017-10-17 Thread esst...@juno.com
Start by getting an SVC dump
Issue CEMT I SYSD and set the dump table to capture a dump 
I very familiar with Short-On-Storage, You can contact me  off list if necessary
 

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We periodically have Short on Storage conditions with CICS.  Not being a CICS 
person, I'm trying to find out what can be done to monitor and or prevent Short 
on Storage conditions.  Of the top, I don't think it's really possible to 
expect we'd be able to absolutely prevent them.  Basically, how can the CICS 
guys be proactive in trying to prevent the SOS condition.  Also, is there a way 
our Operations staff could react quickly to relieve the SOS condition prior to 
calling the CICS guy, waiting for him to VPN into the system to troubleshoot 
etc...

TIA

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Short on Storage

2017-10-17 Thread gsg
We periodically have Short on Storage conditions with CICS.  Not being a CICS 
person, I'm trying to find out what can be done to monitor and or prevent Short 
on Storage conditions.  Of the top, I don't think it's really possible to 
expect we'd be able to absolutely prevent them.  Basically, how can the CICS 
guys be proactive in trying to prevent the SOS condition.  Also, is there a way 
our Operations staff could react quickly to relieve the SOS condition prior to 
calling the CICS guy, waiting for him to VPN into the system to troubleshoot 
etc...

TIA

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