Re: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

[Elardus Engelbrecht]

Lucas Rosalen wrote:

>We've done 1.13 -> 2.1 recently in a parallel sysplex shop and there was one 
>Tolerance/Coexistence PTF missing which prevented the system to join the plex, 
>so I suggest you to make sure you apply ALL these PTFs.

Many thanks for your kind suggestion. 

Please give that PTF number if you can. Just want to make sure we have 
everything.

Thanks in advance.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

[Lucas Rosalen]

IBM works with "supported migration paths". They are given by the N-2
formula, where N is the target version of z/OS you want.
So, it's supported to migrate to v2.2 from 2 previous versions (v2.1 and
v1.13).
Of course you can do it in the unsupported way (I've seen that some times),
but remember you probably will not have much help from IBM in case of
problems.
We've done 1.13 -> 2.1 recently in a parallel sysplex shop and there was
one Tolerance/Coexistence PTF missing which prevented the system to join
the plex, so I suggest you to make sure you apply ALL these PTFs.

Lucas
On Sep 9, 2015 07:41, "Timothy Sipples"  wrote:

> For the record, you can migrate from *any* operating system/operating
> system release you like to z/OS 2.2. IBM hopes you do as expeditiously as
> possible and reasonable.
>
> Migrations to z/OS 2.2 only from these releases:
>
> z/OS 1.13
> z/OS 2.1
>
> include IBM supported "coexistence" and "fallback." Many customers want and
> appreciate having coexistence and fallback capabilities, and so they make
> efforts to stay at least reasonably current on their operating system
> releases. Having those capabilities helps reduce risks and the work effort
> involved in migrations. But you are NOT required to exploit coexistence and
> fallback capabilities. Yes, you can migrate directly from, as one example,
> z/OS 1.11 to z/OS 2.2 -- without coexistence/fallback.(*)
>
> I should also point out that "coexistence" is not the same word as
> "co-located." Yes, it is possible to migrate from z/OS 1.11 to z/OS 2.2, as
> one example, and have both those operating system releases be co-located on
> the same physical machine. "LPARs work," to put it simply. The IBM
> definition of coexistence is a different concept, discussed in the z/OS
> migration guides.
>
> (*) For perspective, the rest of the IT world does not have coexistence and
> fallback, at least not to the level IBM offers.
>
>
> 
> Timothy Sipples
> IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA
> E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com
>
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Re: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

[Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh]

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Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 8:26 PM
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Subject: Re: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

The z Channel, an online user group, is hosting a two-part presentation by 
Marna Walle (IBM) titled "Migrating to V2.2" on Monday, September 14, 2015 at 2 
pm EDT (Part 1) and on Tuesday, September 15, 2015 (Part 2). All are advised to 
register for both webcasts.

You can find more information and a link to register at 
http://www.newera-info.com/zExchange.html

You can also find a document titled "What's New in V2R1" at 
http://www.newera-info.com/Links.html

"What's New in V2R2" will be available soon at 
http://www.newera-info.com/Links.html

The same webpage includes links to Marna Walle's recorded z Channel two-part 
webcasts "Migrating to z/OS V2R1".

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Subject: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

Hi All,

We are planning to Upgrade z/OS from 1.13 to 2.2, we are in plan of checking 
compatability of ISV Products and Applying the required PTF's.

I have a query that do we need to move onto 2.1 then to 2.2 or straightly we 
can upgrade to 2.2? Please confirm.

Also guide us the if any key things that we need to follow.

Thanks,
Samat.

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Re: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

[Kurt Quackenbush]

As i researched i need to apply lot of Prerequiste PTF's to full fill
the compatability checks.

Can i apply the latest RSU, will that satisfy and apply all the
prerequiste PTF's?


You can apply the latest RSU, but that may NOT install all required 
coexistence PTFs.  It is quite possible that one or more required PTFs 
has not yet been marked RSU.  If you install the latest RSU, you still 
need to use the IBM.Coexistence.z/OS.V2R2 fix category to be sure you 
have all the required coexistence PTFs installed.


Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development

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Re: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

[Lucas Rosalen]

I lost all my notes, emails, etc when I moved some months ago - thanks for
old external HDs - so I'm not 100% sure about this, but I think it was PTF
UA68522 (APAR OA37696).
For some reason it got commented out of the APPLY statement generated by
the FIXCAT job (SMPPUNCH DD, IIRC), and was overlooked by me and other
folks (yeah, not my very best move ever).

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2015-09-09 10:37 GMT+02:00 Elardus Engelbrecht <
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za>:

> Lucas Rosalen wrote:
>
> >We've done 1.13 -> 2.1 recently in a parallel sysplex shop and there was
> one Tolerance/Coexistence PTF missing which prevented the system to join
> the plex, so I suggest you to make sure you apply ALL these PTFs.
>
> Many thanks for your kind suggestion.
>
> Please give that PTF number if you can. Just want to make sure we have
> everything.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Groete / Greetings
> Elardus Engelbrecht
>
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Re: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

[Pfister, Nathan]

You can go straight from 1.13 to 2.2

I would suggest checking out the Migration Guide:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/installation/

Or if you are running z/OSMF, the migration workflow for 2.2 is also available:
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/tools/downloads/zosmf-zos-v2r2-migration-workflow.html

(watch the wrap on links)

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Subject: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

Hi All,

We are planning to Upgrade z/OS from 1.13 to 2.2, we are in plan of checking 
compatability of ISV Products and Applying the required PTF's.

I have a query that do we need to move onto 2.1 then to 2.2 or straightly we 
can upgrade to 2.2? Please confirm.

Also guide us the if any key things that we need to follow.

Thanks,
Samat.

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z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

[zos reader]

Hi All,

We are planning to Upgrade z/OS from 1.13 to 2.2, we are in plan of
checking compatability of ISV Products and Applying the required
PTF's.

I have a query that do we need to move onto 2.1 then to 2.2 or
straightly we can upgrade to 2.2? Please confirm.

Also guide us the if any key things that we need to follow.

Thanks,
Samat.

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Re: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

[Blake, Daniel J [CTR]]

Make sure you follow the very good instructions on this page:

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/smpe/fix-category.html



Dan 


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Subject: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

Hi All,

We are planning to Upgrade z/OS from 1.13 to 2.2, we are in plan of checking 
compatability of ISV Products and Applying the required PTF's.

I have a query that do we need to move onto 2.1 then to 2.2 or straightly we 
can upgrade to 2.2? Please confirm.

Also guide us the if any key things that we need to follow.

Thanks,
Samat.

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Re: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

[Jerry]

The z Channel, an online user group, is hosting a two-part presentation by 
Marna Walle (IBM) titled "Migrating to V2.2" on Monday, September 14, 2015 at 2 
pm EDT (Part 1) and on Tuesday, September 15, 2015 (Part 2). All are advised to 
register for both webcasts.

You can find more information and a link to register at 
http://www.newera-info.com/zExchange.html

You can also find a document titled "What's New in V2R1" at 
http://www.newera-info.com/Links.html

"What's New in V2R2" will be available soon at 
http://www.newera-info.com/Links.html

The same webpage includes links to Marna Walle's recorded z Channel two-part 
webcasts "Migrating to z/OS V2R1".

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Subject: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

Hi All,

We are planning to Upgrade z/OS from 1.13 to 2.2, we are in plan of checking 
compatability of ISV Products and Applying the required PTF's.

I have a query that do we need to move onto 2.1 then to 2.2 or straightly we 
can upgrade to 2.2? Please confirm.

Also guide us the if any key things that we need to follow.

Thanks,
Samat.

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Re: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

[zos reader]

Thanks all for valuable inputs.

As i researched i need to apply lot of Prerequiste PTF's to full fill
the compatability checks.

Can i apply the latest RSU, will that satisfy and apply all the
prerequiste PTF's?
For example, RSU1508 will have all the PTF's that are present in
RSU1507, RSu1506,RSU, etc?

Appreciate your valuable inputs,

Thanks

On 9/9/15, Jerry <j...@newera.com> wrote:
> The z Channel, an online user group, is hosting a two-part presentation by
> Marna Walle (IBM) titled "Migrating to V2.2" on Monday, September 14, 2015
> at 2 pm EDT (Part 1) and on Tuesday, September 15, 2015 (Part 2). All are
> advised to register for both webcasts.
>
> You can find more information and a link to register at
> http://www.newera-info.com/zExchange.html
>
> You can also find a document titled "What's New in V2R1" at
> http://www.newera-info.com/Links.html
>
> "What's New in V2R2" will be available soon at
> http://www.newera-info.com/Links.html
>
> The same webpage includes links to Marna Walle's recorded z Channel two-part
> webcasts "Migrating to z/OS V2R1".
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of zos reader
> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 1:51 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2
>
> Hi All,
>
> We are planning to Upgrade z/OS from 1.13 to 2.2, we are in plan of checking
> compatability of ISV Products and Applying the required PTF's.
>
> I have a query that do we need to move onto 2.1 then to 2.2 or straightly we
> can upgrade to 2.2? Please confirm.
>
> Also guide us the if any key things that we need to follow.
>
> Thanks,
> Samat.
>
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Re: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

[Shane Ginnane]

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 14:25:33 -0500, Jerry wrote:

>The z Channel, an online user group, is hosting a two-part presentation by 
>Marna Walle (IBM) titled "Migrating to V2.2" on Monday, September 14, 2015 at 
>2 pm EDT (Part 1) and on Tuesday, September 15, 2015 (Part 2).

Hmmm; 14:00 American Eastern <==> 04:00 Aussie Eastern (currently). Think I'll 
wait for the DVD   ;-)

Shane ...

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Re: z/OS Upgrade 1.13 to 2.2

[Timothy Sipples]

For the record, you can migrate from *any* operating system/operating
system release you like to z/OS 2.2. IBM hopes you do as expeditiously as
possible and reasonable.

Migrations to z/OS 2.2 only from these releases:

z/OS 1.13
z/OS 2.1

include IBM supported "coexistence" and "fallback." Many customers want and
appreciate having coexistence and fallback capabilities, and so they make
efforts to stay at least reasonably current on their operating system
releases. Having those capabilities helps reduce risks and the work effort
involved in migrations. But you are NOT required to exploit coexistence and
fallback capabilities. Yes, you can migrate directly from, as one example,
z/OS 1.11 to z/OS 2.2 -- without coexistence/fallback.(*)

I should also point out that "coexistence" is not the same word as
"co-located." Yes, it is possible to migrate from z/OS 1.11 to z/OS 2.2, as
one example, and have both those operating system releases be co-located on
the same physical machine. "LPARs work," to put it simply. The IBM
definition of coexistence is a different concept, discussed in the z/OS
migration guides.

(*) For perspective, the rest of the IT world does not have coexistence and
fallback, at least not to the level IBM offers.


Timothy Sipples
IT Architect Executive, Industry Solutions, IBM z Systems, AP/GCG/MEA
E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com

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