Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
Just remember, A CBPDO, doesn’t have to be processed as such, Receive it like normal, which will load the REL files, Then just APPLY/ACCEPT the FMID. If you need the other files/doc they are there. We seem to have lost the basics.. Ms Terri E Shaffer Senior Systems Engineer, z/OS Support: ACIWorldwide – Telecommuter H(412-766-2697) C(412-519-2592) terri.shaf...@aciworldwide.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Colin Paice Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 9:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OSMF - again, next issue EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click links or open attachments unless you know the content is safe. I used to have to struggle with IBM installation manager - a package for installing software on midrange machines. I remember being in a hotel trying to download a fix - but Installation Manager(IM) decided it needed to upgrade itself before doing anything. It took over 6 hours to download the new version of the Installation manager, and another 2 hours to download the fix I needed! ( I had to set my alarm for 3 am, and 5 am to click "go" on the install) IBM's argument was you only need to learn one interface (IM) to install software ( across Windows and Unix) - not realising I needed to know Windows, Unix AND IBM's IM. z/OSMF is inevitable - Question: where are the skills of today? Answer: Java. Personally I would follow the ADCD approach and download a volume of product libraries and its SMP/E environment (and never use the SMP/E environment) Colin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN [https://go.aciworldwide.com/rs/030-ROK-804/images/aci-footer.jpg] <http://www.aciworldwide.com> This email message and any attachments may contain confidential, proprietary or non-public information. The information is intended solely for the designated recipient(s). If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this email, please notify the sender immediately and destroy this email. Any review, dissemination, use or reliance upon this information by unintended recipients is prohibited. Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the author personally. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 14:01:37 +0100, Keith Gooding wrote: >Why would anyone use CBPDO + SMP/E to install z/OS ? (Not a rhetorical >question). > >Z/OSMF Serverpac installation is good but you may not want to use a Serverpac >to install a single product such as z/secure. Would you take a sledgehammer to your walls, hang new drywall, mud, tape, sand, and prime every time you wanted to slap a new coat of paint on them? CBPDO is no more difficult for z/OS than it is for a product. A z/OS order contains more data, so it takes a little longer to process. The post-installation steps are the same, regardless of the method you choose. The biggest thing ServerPac buys you over CBPDO, is that the SMP/E work is _largely_ done for you. Obviously, if you're a new z/OS shop, you have to start somewhere, and ServerPac is likely the better option. However, if you are an established shop with a well-defined cloning process (implying at least rudimentary JCL and SMP/E skills), ServerPac may be an over-engineered approach, and CBPDO is a feasible alternative. Art Gutowski Huntington National Bank -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
I use, have been using for many years the ServerPac dialog, I like it, it's easy to use and you get 2 very clear docs 'using the dialog' and 'installing your order', and of course the migration guide. I've not use CBPDO, but IIRC when I joined state Gov long ago as a SYSPROG they used this offering. for products maybe its best? sure beats z/OSMF especially now that I have to wait for an APAR (PTF) to be applied to my system just to accept the json file format, that's just crazy, and there's no work around. Carmen On 8/31/2022 8:01 AM, Keith Gooding wrote: Why would anyone use CBPDO + SMP/E to install z/OS ? (Not a rhetorical question). Z/OSMF Serverpac installation is good but you may not want to use a Serverpac to install a single product such as z/secure. Keith On 31 Aug 2022, at 13:09, Carmen Vitullo wrote: thanks for that info Art, My teammate is not real familiar with SHOP Z and the options available. she told me trying to order as CBPDO gave her an error, I'll work with her some more to see why again thanks Carmen On 8/31/2022 4:59 AM, Art Gutowski wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:01:53 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >from what I was told by my teammate, Zsecure version 2.5 requires z/osmf, I could be wrong, she could be mistaken, but the issues she's having I think would affect Serverpac, or whatever it's called now, build JCL and submit JCL. my case I opened was initially on the errors we were seeing on the submit errors, that was not addressed, just the easy stuff, now I have to recreate the issue again and make sure I have the correct error message for support. typical of z/osmf support; my first case I opened for z/osmf issues was open and not resolved for 364 days, so, so far I'm ahead of the game I support Carmen I installed zSecure 2.5 with CBPDO and SMP/E using ISPF just fine. No issues. CBPDO is available for products, and for z/OS itself, and as far as I'm aware, no timeline has been announced for phasing it out. If you like z/OSMF, use it; if you prefer ISPF and SMP/E, use CBPDO...it's really not that difficult. Art Gutowski Mainframe Engineer Huntington National Bank arthur.gutow...@huntington.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
Why would anyone use CBPDO + SMP/E to install z/OS ? (Not a rhetorical question). Z/OSMF Serverpac installation is good but you may not want to use a Serverpac to install a single product such as z/secure. Keith > On 31 Aug 2022, at 13:09, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > > thanks for that info Art, My teammate is not real familiar with SHOP Z and > the options available. > > she told me trying to order as CBPDO gave her an error, I'll work with her > some more to see why > > again thanks > > Carmen > >> On 8/31/2022 4:59 AM, Art Gutowski wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:01:53 -0500, Carmen Vitullo >> wrote: >> >> >from what I was told by my teammate, Zsecure version 2.5 requires >>> z/osmf, I could be wrong, she could be mistaken, but the issues she's >>> having I think would affect Serverpac, or whatever it's called now, >>> build JCL and submit JCL. >>> >>> my case I opened was initially on the errors we were seeing on the >>> submit errors, that was not addressed, just the easy stuff, now I have >>> to recreate the issue again and make sure I have the correct error >>> message for support. typical of z/osmf support; my first case I opened >>> for z/osmf issues was open and not resolved for 364 days, so, so far I'm >>> ahead of the game I support >>> >>> Carmen >> I installed zSecure 2.5 with CBPDO and SMP/E using ISPF just fine. No >> issues. CBPDO is available for products, and for z/OS itself, and as far as >> I'm aware, no timeline has been announced for phasing it out. If you like >> z/OSMF, use it; if you prefer ISPF and SMP/E, use CBPDO...it's really not >> that difficult. >> >> Art Gutowski >> Mainframe Engineer >> Huntington National Bank >> arthur.gutow...@huntington.com >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
thanks for that info Art, My teammate is not real familiar with SHOP Z and the options available. she told me trying to order as CBPDO gave her an error, I'll work with her some more to see why again thanks Carmen On 8/31/2022 4:59 AM, Art Gutowski wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:01:53 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >from what I was told by my teammate, Zsecure version 2.5 requires z/osmf, I could be wrong, she could be mistaken, but the issues she's having I think would affect Serverpac, or whatever it's called now, build JCL and submit JCL. my case I opened was initially on the errors we were seeing on the submit errors, that was not addressed, just the easy stuff, now I have to recreate the issue again and make sure I have the correct error message for support. typical of z/osmf support; my first case I opened for z/osmf issues was open and not resolved for 364 days, so, so far I'm ahead of the game I support Carmen I installed zSecure 2.5 with CBPDO and SMP/E using ISPF just fine. No issues. CBPDO is available for products, and for z/OS itself, and as far as I'm aware, no timeline has been announced for phasing it out. If you like z/OSMF, use it; if you prefer ISPF and SMP/E, use CBPDO...it's really not that difficult. Art Gutowski Mainframe Engineer Huntington National Bank arthur.gutow...@huntington.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:01:53 -0500, Carmen Vitullo wrote: >from what I was told by my teammate, Zsecure version 2.5 requires >z/osmf, I could be wrong, she could be mistaken, but the issues she's >having I think would affect Serverpac, or whatever it's called now, >build JCL and submit JCL. > >my case I opened was initially on the errors we were seeing on the >submit errors, that was not addressed, just the easy stuff, now I have >to recreate the issue again and make sure I have the correct error >message for support. typical of z/osmf support; my first case I opened >for z/osmf issues was open and not resolved for 364 days, so, so far I'm >ahead of the game I support > >Carmen I installed zSecure 2.5 with CBPDO and SMP/E using ISPF just fine. No issues. CBPDO is available for products, and for z/OS itself, and as far as I'm aware, no timeline has been announced for phasing it out. If you like z/OSMF, use it; if you prefer ISPF and SMP/E, use CBPDO...it's really not that difficult. Art Gutowski Mainframe Engineer Huntington National Bank arthur.gutow...@huntington.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
I "think" ADCD is used for ISV's. In addition, zPDT uses the ADCD DASD images. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, August 30th, 2022 at 10:07 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > okay, thanks for the clarification > > Carmen > > On 8/30/2022 9:01 AM, rpinion865 wrote: > > > IBM sends, usually twice a year, DASD images with every conceivable z/OS > > software component. It's load and go, or should I say load and IPL. It's > > IBM's idea of a z/OS system. > > > > Sent with Proton Mail secure email. > > > > --- Original Message --- > > On Tuesday, August 30th, 2022 at 9:57 AM, Carmen Vitullo > > petevi...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > the ADCD approach? I'm not familiar with that terminology, is that the > > > billable service from IBM that build your environment + product and you > > > just restore that environment? , I worked in state government where IBM > > > lead the Y2K project for us and that's how we receive the required OS > > > and products to support Y2K, also I was part of an IBM Global Services > > > team that supported many clients, and IIRC used that mechanism to > > > upgrade their systems. that long response said, sorry, that's not an > > > option for us right now. > > > > > > what I struggle with is exactly what you have described > > > > > > I am concerned that z/OSMF is running on a prod LPAR, and the product > > > we're trying to upgrade is required to be upgraded before I can apply > > > and test the RSU maint I have received and the required PTF I need is > > > contained in that maint level. > > > > > > I'm asking support for a work around to this issue, and asking for a > > > resolution to my submit failure issue. > > > > > > Carmen > > > > > > On 8/30/2022 8:42 AM, Colin Paice wrote: > > > > > > > I used to have to struggle with IBM installation manager - a package for > > > > installing software on midrange machines. > > > > I remember being in a hotel trying to download a fix - but Installation > > > > Manager(IM) decided it needed to upgrade itself before doing anything. > > > > It > > > > took over 6 hours to download the new version of the Installation > > > > manager, > > > > and another 2 hours to download the fix I needed! ( I had to set my > > > > alarm > > > > for 3 am, and 5 am to click "go" on the install) > > > > > > > > IBM's argument was you only need to learn one interface (IM) to install > > > > software ( across Windows and Unix) - not realising I needed to know > > > > Windows, Unix AND IBM's IM. > > > > > > > > z/OSMF is inevitable - Question: where are the skills of today? Answer: > > > > Java. > > > > > > > > Personally I would follow the ADCD approach and download a volume of > > > > product libraries and its SMP/E environment (and never use the SMP/E > > > > environment) > > > > > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > -- > > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > -- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > -- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
okay, thanks for the clarification Carmen On 8/30/2022 9:01 AM, rpinion865 wrote: IBM sends, usually twice a year, DASD images with every conceivable z/OS software component. It's load and go, or should I say load and IPL. It's IBM's idea of a z/OS system. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, August 30th, 2022 at 9:57 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: the ADCD approach? I'm not familiar with that terminology, is that the billable service from IBM that build your environment + product and you just restore that environment? , I worked in state government where IBM lead the Y2K project for us and that's how we receive the required OS and products to support Y2K, also I was part of an IBM Global Services team that supported many clients, and IIRC used that mechanism to upgrade their systems. that long response said, sorry, that's not an option for us right now. what I struggle with is exactly what you have described I am concerned that z/OSMF is running on a prod LPAR, and the product we're trying to upgrade is required to be upgraded before I can apply and test the RSU maint I have received and the required PTF I need is contained in that maint level. I'm asking support for a work around to this issue, and asking for a resolution to my submit failure issue. Carmen On 8/30/2022 8:42 AM, Colin Paice wrote: I used to have to struggle with IBM installation manager - a package for installing software on midrange machines. I remember being in a hotel trying to download a fix - but Installation Manager(IM) decided it needed to upgrade itself before doing anything. It took over 6 hours to download the new version of the Installation manager, and another 2 hours to download the fix I needed! ( I had to set my alarm for 3 am, and 5 am to click "go" on the install) IBM's argument was you only need to learn one interface (IM) to install software ( across Windows and Unix) - not realising I needed to know Windows, Unix AND IBM's IM. z/OSMF is inevitable - Question: where are the skills of today? Answer: Java. Personally I would follow the ADCD approach and download a volume of product libraries and its SMP/E environment (and never use the SMP/E environment) Colin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
there are so many pieces, parts that are supported by different teams? as I stated my first case open with IBM on the zosmf issue I was having was related to JES2EDS, it took almost a year for them to figure out my mail server SMTP did not require authentication , so a special jar file was built and a local override file was required to get past this issue, before that it was me weekly sometimes daily trying to get an update on my issue only to get, we're researching your problem, :( I had to reach out to my IBM account rep to get any action, so, an instrumental product required to install your OS and other subsystems gets little to no attention, that's been my case. IMHO - zosmf needs to be more stable and more tolerant like the OS it is built to support Carmen On 8/30/2022 8:53 AM, Mike Shaw wrote: It seems to me that z/OSMF is being developed one piece at a time, slowly, instead of starting with a well-thought out and relatively complet design ahead of time. Portions are being developed and added, one at a time, as the need for those portions of the product is discovered. It's like we are all participants in a giant beta test. My opinion only... Mike Shaw MVS/QuickRef Support Group Chicago-Soft, Ltd. On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 9:01 AM Carmen Vitullo wrote: from what I was told by my teammate, Zsecure version 2.5 requires z/osmf, I could be wrong, she could be mistaken, but the issues she's having I think would affect Serverpac, or whatever it's called now, build JCL and submit JCL. my case I opened was initially on the errors we were seeing on the submit errors, that was not addressed, just the easy stuff, now I have to recreate the issue again and make sure I have the correct error message for support. typical of z/osmf support; my first case I opened for z/osmf issues was open and not resolved for 364 days, so, so far I'm ahead of the game I support Carmen On 8/30/2022 7:54 AM, Keith Gooding wrote: Just curious - I thought that only Serverpac required the use of z/OSMF and CBPDOs are installed using traditional methods. Are there now products which have to be installed using z/OSMF ? Is it now possible to install a CNPDO using z/OSMF. For the record my experience of z/OSMF for Serverpac installation has been positive - I would not want to go back to the ISPF dialogue method. Keith Gooding On 30 Aug 2022, at 13:37, Carmen Vitullo wrote: I don't recall ever having to work or needing to use a product to install or maintain a product that required another product as finicky as z/osmf at my 2.4 level downloading a product to support that level, the json file version was not compatible WTH, opening a case with IBM apparently there's an APAR PTF, sorry this is just insane using a product built on Java to support a Mainframe product and have this much incompatibility :( sad, very sad MHO Carmen On 8/29/2022 8:34 PM, Robert Garrett wrote: zOSMF. A reasonably good idea that has been extremely poorly and sloppily implemented. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OSMF - again, next issue I'm working with a teammate that is required to use z/osmf to download an new zsecure release, we successfully added the portable software instance and provide the https server and client parms, updated the JOBCARD, the next parts we hunt and peck and guess what to do next, we found quite by accident we had to 'complete add' to get to the part to submit the job to download the product from IBM, selecting action/submit the job we get this error The request could not be completed because an error occurred. Error: IZUD999E Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:08 PM An error occurred when attempting to contact the application server. The server returned HTTP status code: 500. IZUG857E the IZU messages are no help, we checked the configuration for the system(s) and found nothing configured wrong we saw, the PDS where the JCL was stored we submitted via TSO /ISPF successfully, next we went on and selected NEXT to move to the next job/process then we got this error An error occurred when attempting to contact the application server. The server returned HTTP status code: 500. IZUG857E Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:45 PM I did not see any error in the IZUSVR1 address space or in the syslog. my question, has anyone been successful submitting from z/osmf? is there somewhere I can check that needs configuring I may have missed? thanks Carmen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
IBM sends, usually twice a year, DASD images with every conceivable z/OS software component. It's load and go, or should I say load and IPL. It's IBM's idea of a z/OS system. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, August 30th, 2022 at 9:57 AM, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > the ADCD approach? I'm not familiar with that terminology, is that the > billable service from IBM that build your environment + product and you > just restore that environment? , I worked in state government where IBM > lead the Y2K project for us and that's how we receive the required OS > and products to support Y2K, also I was part of an IBM Global Services > team that supported many clients, and IIRC used that mechanism to > upgrade their systems. that long response said, sorry, that's not an > option for us right now. > > what I struggle with is exactly what you have described > > I am concerned that z/OSMF is running on a prod LPAR, and the product > we're trying to upgrade is required to be upgraded before I can apply > and test the RSU maint I have received and the required PTF I need is > contained in that maint level. > > I'm asking support for a work around to this issue, and asking for a > resolution to my submit failure issue. > > Carmen > > On 8/30/2022 8:42 AM, Colin Paice wrote: > > > I used to have to struggle with IBM installation manager - a package for > > installing software on midrange machines. > > I remember being in a hotel trying to download a fix - but Installation > > Manager(IM) decided it needed to upgrade itself before doing anything. It > > took over 6 hours to download the new version of the Installation manager, > > and another 2 hours to download the fix I needed! ( I had to set my alarm > > for 3 am, and 5 am to click "go" on the install) > > > > IBM's argument was you only need to learn one interface (IM) to install > > software ( across Windows and Unix) - not realising I needed to know > > Windows, Unix AND IBM's IM. > > > > z/OSMF is inevitable - Question: where are the skills of today? Answer: > > Java. > > > > Personally I would follow the ADCD approach and download a volume of > > product libraries and its SMP/E environment (and never use the SMP/E > > environment) > > > > Colin > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
the ADCD approach? I'm not familiar with that terminology, is that the billable service from IBM that build your environment + product and you just restore that environment? , I worked in state government where IBM lead the Y2K project for us and that's how we receive the required OS and products to support Y2K, also I was part of an IBM Global Services team that supported many clients, and IIRC used that mechanism to upgrade their systems. that long response said, sorry, that's not an option for us right now. what I struggle with is exactly what you have described I am concerned that z/OSMF is running on a prod LPAR, and the product we're trying to upgrade is required to be upgraded before I can apply and test the RSU maint I have received and the required PTF I need is contained in that maint level. I'm asking support for a work around to this issue, and asking for a resolution to my submit failure issue. Carmen On 8/30/2022 8:42 AM, Colin Paice wrote: I used to have to struggle with IBM installation manager - a package for installing software on midrange machines. I remember being in a hotel trying to download a fix - but Installation Manager(IM) decided it needed to upgrade itself before doing anything. It took over 6 hours to download the new version of the Installation manager, and another 2 hours to download the fix I needed! ( I had to set my alarm for 3 am, and 5 am to click "go" on the install) IBM's argument was you only need to learn one interface (IM) to install software ( across Windows and Unix) - not realising I needed to know Windows, Unix AND IBM's IM. z/OSMF is inevitable - Question: where are the skills of today? Answer: Java. Personally I would follow the ADCD approach and download a volume of product libraries and its SMP/E environment (and never use the SMP/E environment) Colin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
It seems to me that z/OSMF is being developed one piece at a time, slowly, instead of starting with a well-thought out and relatively complet design ahead of time. Portions are being developed and added, one at a time, as the need for those portions of the product is discovered. It's like we are all participants in a giant beta test. My opinion only... Mike Shaw MVS/QuickRef Support Group Chicago-Soft, Ltd. On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 9:01 AM Carmen Vitullo wrote: > from what I was told by my teammate, Zsecure version 2.5 requires > z/osmf, I could be wrong, she could be mistaken, but the issues she's > having I think would affect Serverpac, or whatever it's called now, > build JCL and submit JCL. > > my case I opened was initially on the errors we were seeing on the > submit errors, that was not addressed, just the easy stuff, now I have > to recreate the issue again and make sure I have the correct error > message for support. typical of z/osmf support; my first case I opened > for z/osmf issues was open and not resolved for 364 days, so, so far I'm > ahead of the game I support > > Carmen > > On 8/30/2022 7:54 AM, Keith Gooding wrote: > > Just curious - I thought that only Serverpac required the use of z/OSMF > and CBPDOs are installed using traditional methods. Are there now products > which have to be installed using z/OSMF ? Is it now possible to install a > CNPDO using z/OSMF. > > > > For the record my experience of z/OSMF for Serverpac installation has > been positive - I would not want to go back to the ISPF dialogue method. > > > > Keith Gooding > > > >> On 30 Aug 2022, at 13:37, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > >> > >> I don't recall ever having to work or needing to use a product to > install or maintain a product that required another product as finicky as > z/osmf > >> > >> at my 2.4 level downloading a product to support that level, the json > file version was not compatible WTH, > >> > >> opening a case with IBM apparently there's an APAR PTF, sorry this is > just insane using a product built on Java to support a Mainframe product > and have this much incompatibility :( > >> > >> sad, very sad > >> > >> MHO > >> > >> Carmen > >> > >>> On 8/29/2022 8:34 PM, Robert Garrett wrote: > >>> zOSMF. A reasonably good idea that has been extremely poorly and > sloppily implemented. > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo > >>> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:13 PM > >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > >>> Subject: z/OSMF - again, next issue > >>> > >>> I'm working with a teammate that is required to use z/osmf to download > an new zsecure release, we successfully added the portable software > instance and provide the https server and client parms, updated the > JOBCARD, the next parts we hunt and peck and guess what to do next, we > found quite by accident we had to 'complete add' to get to the part to > submit the job to download the product from IBM, selecting action/submit > the job we get this error > >>> > >>> The request could not be completed because an error occurred. Error: > >>> > >>> IZUD999E > >>> > >>> Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:08 PM > >>> > >>> An error occurred when attempting to contact the application server. > The server returned HTTP status code: 500. > >>> > >>> IZUG857E > >>> > >>> the IZU messages are no help, we checked the configuration for the > system(s) and found nothing configured wrong we saw, the PDS where the JCL > was stored we submitted via TSO /ISPF successfully, next we went on and > selected NEXT to move to the next job/process then we got this error An > error occurred when attempting to contact the application server. The > server returned HTTP status code: 500. > >>> > >>> IZUG857E > >>> > >>> Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:45 PM > >>> I did not see any error in the IZUSVR1 address space or in the syslog. > >>> my question, has anyone been successful submitting from z/osmf? is > there somewhere I can check that needs configuring I may have missed? > >>> thanks > >>> > >>> Carmen > >>> > >>> -- > >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the m
z/OSMF - again, next issue
I used to have to struggle with IBM installation manager - a package for installing software on midrange machines. I remember being in a hotel trying to download a fix - but Installation Manager(IM) decided it needed to upgrade itself before doing anything. It took over 6 hours to download the new version of the Installation manager, and another 2 hours to download the fix I needed! ( I had to set my alarm for 3 am, and 5 am to click "go" on the install) IBM's argument was you only need to learn one interface (IM) to install software ( across Windows and Unix) - not realising I needed to know Windows, Unix AND IBM's IM. z/OSMF is inevitable - Question: where are the skills of today? Answer: Java. Personally I would follow the ADCD approach and download a volume of product libraries and its SMP/E environment (and never use the SMP/E environment) Colin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
from what I was told by my teammate, Zsecure version 2.5 requires z/osmf, I could be wrong, she could be mistaken, but the issues she's having I think would affect Serverpac, or whatever it's called now, build JCL and submit JCL. my case I opened was initially on the errors we were seeing on the submit errors, that was not addressed, just the easy stuff, now I have to recreate the issue again and make sure I have the correct error message for support. typical of z/osmf support; my first case I opened for z/osmf issues was open and not resolved for 364 days, so, so far I'm ahead of the game I support Carmen On 8/30/2022 7:54 AM, Keith Gooding wrote: Just curious - I thought that only Serverpac required the use of z/OSMF and CBPDOs are installed using traditional methods. Are there now products which have to be installed using z/OSMF ? Is it now possible to install a CNPDO using z/OSMF. For the record my experience of z/OSMF for Serverpac installation has been positive - I would not want to go back to the ISPF dialogue method. Keith Gooding On 30 Aug 2022, at 13:37, Carmen Vitullo wrote: I don't recall ever having to work or needing to use a product to install or maintain a product that required another product as finicky as z/osmf at my 2.4 level downloading a product to support that level, the json file version was not compatible WTH, opening a case with IBM apparently there's an APAR PTF, sorry this is just insane using a product built on Java to support a Mainframe product and have this much incompatibility :( sad, very sad MHO Carmen On 8/29/2022 8:34 PM, Robert Garrett wrote: zOSMF. A reasonably good idea that has been extremely poorly and sloppily implemented. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OSMF - again, next issue I'm working with a teammate that is required to use z/osmf to download an new zsecure release, we successfully added the portable software instance and provide the https server and client parms, updated the JOBCARD, the next parts we hunt and peck and guess what to do next, we found quite by accident we had to 'complete add' to get to the part to submit the job to download the product from IBM, selecting action/submit the job we get this error The request could not be completed because an error occurred. Error: IZUD999E Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:08 PM An error occurred when attempting to contact the application server. The server returned HTTP status code: 500. IZUG857E the IZU messages are no help, we checked the configuration for the system(s) and found nothing configured wrong we saw, the PDS where the JCL was stored we submitted via TSO /ISPF successfully, next we went on and selected NEXT to move to the next job/process then we got this error An error occurred when attempting to contact the application server. The server returned HTTP status code: 500. IZUG857E Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:45 PM I did not see any error in the IZUSVR1 address space or in the syslog. my question, has anyone been successful submitting from z/osmf? is there somewhere I can check that needs configuring I may have missed? thanks Carmen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
Just curious - I thought that only Serverpac required the use of z/OSMF and CBPDOs are installed using traditional methods. Are there now products which have to be installed using z/OSMF ? Is it now possible to install a CNPDO using z/OSMF. For the record my experience of z/OSMF for Serverpac installation has been positive - I would not want to go back to the ISPF dialogue method. Keith Gooding > On 30 Aug 2022, at 13:37, Carmen Vitullo wrote: > > I don't recall ever having to work or needing to use a product to install or > maintain a product that required another product as finicky as z/osmf > > at my 2.4 level downloading a product to support that level, the json file > version was not compatible WTH, > > opening a case with IBM apparently there's an APAR PTF, sorry this is just > insane using a product built on Java to support a Mainframe product and have > this much incompatibility :( > > sad, very sad > > MHO > > Carmen > >> On 8/29/2022 8:34 PM, Robert Garrett wrote: >> zOSMF. A reasonably good idea that has been extremely poorly and sloppily >> implemented. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of >> Carmen Vitullo >> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:13 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: z/OSMF - again, next issue >> >> I'm working with a teammate that is required to use z/osmf to download an >> new zsecure release, we successfully added the portable software instance >> and provide the https server and client parms, updated the JOBCARD, the next >> parts we hunt and peck and guess what to do next, we found quite by accident >> we had to 'complete add' to get to the part to submit the job to download >> the product from IBM, selecting action/submit the job we get this error >> >> The request could not be completed because an error occurred. Error: >> >> IZUD999E >> >> Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:08 PM >> >> An error occurred when attempting to contact the application server. The >> server returned HTTP status code: 500. >> >> IZUG857E >> >> the IZU messages are no help, we checked the configuration for the system(s) >> and found nothing configured wrong we saw, the PDS where the JCL was stored >> we submitted via TSO /ISPF successfully, next we went on and selected NEXT >> to move to the next job/process then we got this error An error occurred >> when attempting to contact the application server. The server returned HTTP >> status code: 500. >> >> IZUG857E >> >> Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:45 PM >> I did not see any error in the IZUSVR1 address space or in the syslog. >> my question, has anyone been successful submitting from z/osmf? is there >> somewhere I can check that needs configuring I may have missed? >> thanks >> >> Carmen >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email >> to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> >> -- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
I don't recall ever having to work or needing to use a product to install or maintain a product that required another product as finicky as z/osmf at my 2.4 level downloading a product to support that level, the json file version was not compatible WTH, opening a case with IBM apparently there's an APAR PTF, sorry this is just insane using a product built on Java to support a Mainframe product and have this much incompatibility :( sad, very sad MHO Carmen On 8/29/2022 8:34 PM, Robert Garrett wrote: zOSMF. A reasonably good idea that has been extremely poorly and sloppily implemented. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OSMF - again, next issue I'm working with a teammate that is required to use z/osmf to download an new zsecure release, we successfully added the portable software instance and provide the https server and client parms, updated the JOBCARD, the next parts we hunt and peck and guess what to do next, we found quite by accident we had to 'complete add' to get to the part to submit the job to download the product from IBM, selecting action/submit the job we get this error The request could not be completed because an error occurred. Error: IZUD999E Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:08 PM An error occurred when attempting to contact the application server. The server returned HTTP status code: 500. IZUG857E the IZU messages are no help, we checked the configuration for the system(s) and found nothing configured wrong we saw, the PDS where the JCL was stored we submitted via TSO /ISPF successfully, next we went on and selected NEXT to move to the next job/process then we got this error An error occurred when attempting to contact the application server. The server returned HTTP status code: 500. IZUG857E Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:45 PM I did not see any error in the IZUSVR1 address space or in the syslog. my question, has anyone been successful submitting from z/osmf? is there somewhere I can check that needs configuring I may have missed? thanks Carmen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF - again, next issue
zOSMF. A reasonably good idea that has been extremely poorly and sloppily implemented. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 1:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OSMF - again, next issue I'm working with a teammate that is required to use z/osmf to download an new zsecure release, we successfully added the portable software instance and provide the https server and client parms, updated the JOBCARD, the next parts we hunt and peck and guess what to do next, we found quite by accident we had to 'complete add' to get to the part to submit the job to download the product from IBM, selecting action/submit the job we get this error The request could not be completed because an error occurred. Error: IZUD999E Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:08 PM An error occurred when attempting to contact the application server. The server returned HTTP status code: 500. IZUG857E the IZU messages are no help, we checked the configuration for the system(s) and found nothing configured wrong we saw, the PDS where the JCL was stored we submitted via TSO /ISPF successfully, next we went on and selected NEXT to move to the next job/process then we got this error An error occurred when attempting to contact the application server. The server returned HTTP status code: 500. IZUG857E Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:45 PM I did not see any error in the IZUSVR1 address space or in the syslog. my question, has anyone been successful submitting from z/osmf? is there somewhere I can check that needs configuring I may have missed? thanks Carmen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
z/OSMF - again, next issue
I'm working with a teammate that is required to use z/osmf to download an new zsecure release, we successfully added the portable software instance and provide the https server and client parms, updated the JOBCARD, the next parts we hunt and peck and guess what to do next, we found quite by accident we had to 'complete add' to get to the part to submit the job to download the product from IBM, selecting action/submit the job we get this error The request could not be completed because an error occurred. Error: IZUD999E Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:08 PM An error occurred when attempting to contact the application server. The server returned HTTP status code: 500. IZUG857E the IZU messages are no help, we checked the configuration for the system(s) and found nothing configured wrong we saw, the PDS where the JCL was stored we submitted via TSO /ISPF successfully, next we went on and selected NEXT to move to the next job/process then we got this error An error occurred when attempting to contact the application server. The server returned HTTP status code: 500. IZUG857E Aug 29, 2022, 1:02:45 PM I did not see any error in the IZUSVR1 address space or in the syslog. my question, has anyone been successful submitting from z/osmf? is there somewhere I can check that needs configuring I may have missed? thanks Carmen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF again
Just generate the RACF commands and convert them. Or generate them and send them to Broadcom and have them convert them. Sometimes the cookbooks lag or they don't have the latest stuff. So unless they've updated the cookbooks lately, I wouldn't use the stuff in the cookbooks for your ZOSMF setup. Any problems with TSS can be tracked through using the sectrace and the OMVS trace. Rob On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 18:54 Steve Beaver wrote: > Tom. I have a conf call with the TSS development manager tomorrow about > this very topic > > Sent from my iPhone > > No one said I could type with one thumb > > > On Jul 21, 2022, at 17:47, Tom Brennan > wrote: > > > > I've barely worked with TSS, but when I did I would send a list of RACF > commands copy/pasted from an install manual to CA support, and they would > reply with the TSS equivalents. They never complained and never rubbed my > nose in a manual, so I figured this was standard procedure. > > > > Kind of reminds me how Kolusu responds (following Yaeger's lead) with > complete and probably even tested DFSORT JCL and sysin, with no "You should > read chapter 12" admonishment. Pretty cool. > > > >> On 7/21/2022 9:01 AM, Steely.Mark wrote: > >> This shop is TSS - not so easy. > >> -Original Message- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Steve Beaver > >> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 10:57 AM > >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > >> Subject: Re: z/OSMF again > >> ATTENTION: This e-mail came from an external source. Do not open > attachments or click on links from unknown or unexpected emails. > >> On a RACF system it’s a cakewalk > > > > -- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF again
Tom. I have a conf call with the TSS development manager tomorrow about this very topic Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Jul 21, 2022, at 17:47, Tom Brennan wrote: > > I've barely worked with TSS, but when I did I would send a list of RACF > commands copy/pasted from an install manual to CA support, and they would > reply with the TSS equivalents. They never complained and never rubbed my > nose in a manual, so I figured this was standard procedure. > > Kind of reminds me how Kolusu responds (following Yaeger's lead) with > complete and probably even tested DFSORT JCL and sysin, with no "You should > read chapter 12" admonishment. Pretty cool. > >> On 7/21/2022 9:01 AM, Steely.Mark wrote: >> This shop is TSS - not so easy. >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of >> Steve Beaver >> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 10:57 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >> Subject: Re: z/OSMF again >> ATTENTION: This e-mail came from an external source. Do not open attachments >> or click on links from unknown or unexpected emails. >> On a RACF system it’s a cakewalk > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF again
I've barely worked with TSS, but when I did I would send a list of RACF commands copy/pasted from an install manual to CA support, and they would reply with the TSS equivalents. They never complained and never rubbed my nose in a manual, so I figured this was standard procedure. Kind of reminds me how Kolusu responds (following Yaeger's lead) with complete and probably even tested DFSORT JCL and sysin, with no "You should read chapter 12" admonishment. Pretty cool. On 7/21/2022 9:01 AM, Steely.Mark wrote: This shop is TSS - not so easy. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 10:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF again ATTENTION: This e-mail came from an external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown or unexpected emails. On a RACF system it’s a cakewalk -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF again
CA/BroadCom has a cookbook that replicates all the security rules for z/OSMF, If I can find the doc I can forward to you, but it does exist on their support site Carmen On 7/21/2022 11:01 AM, Steely.Mark wrote: This shop is TSS - not so easy. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 10:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF again ATTENTION: This e-mail came from an external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown or unexpected emails. On a RACF system it’s a cakewalk Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb On Jul 21, 2022, at 10:06, Steely.Mark wrote: I can't believe it was that easy. The 2 Icons were there and dragged them to the desktop. Now the hard part starting the installation process.. Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kurt J. Quackenbush Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 6:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF again ATTENTION: This e-mail came from an external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown or unexpected emails. There are 2 missing icons that I need - Software Management & Software Updates. I been through several manuals and have performed additional setup and SAF rules that are suppose to provide this function. Did you check the "App Center" folder in the lower left corner of the z/OSMF desktop? I don't know why, but some application icons do not get displayed on the desktop by default, but you can drag them from the App Center folder to the desktop. If they are not in the App Center folder then I suggest open a support case. Kurt Quackenbush IBM | z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management | ku...@us.ibm.com Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF again
This shop is TSS - not so easy. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 10:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF again ATTENTION: This e-mail came from an external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown or unexpected emails. On a RACF system it’s a cakewalk Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Jul 21, 2022, at 10:06, Steely.Mark wrote: > > I can't believe it was that easy. The 2 Icons were there and dragged them to > the desktop. > > Now the hard part starting the installation process.. > > Thanks > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Kurt J. Quackenbush > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 6:16 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/OSMF again > > ATTENTION: This e-mail came from an external source. Do not open attachments > or click on links from unknown or unexpected emails. > > >> There are 2 missing icons that I need - Software Management & Software >> Updates. > >> I been through several manuals and have performed additional setup and SAF >> rules that are suppose to provide this function. > > Did you check the "App Center" folder in the lower left corner of the z/OSMF > desktop? I don't know why, but some application icons do not get displayed > on the desktop by default, but you can drag them from the App Center folder > to the desktop. If they are not in the App Center folder then I suggest open > a support case. > > Kurt Quackenbush > IBM | z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management | ku...@us.ibm.com > > Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF again
On a RACF system it’s a cakewalk Sent from my iPhone No one said I could type with one thumb > On Jul 21, 2022, at 10:06, Steely.Mark wrote: > > I can't believe it was that easy. The 2 Icons were there and dragged them to > the desktop. > > Now the hard part starting the installation process.. > > Thanks > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Kurt J. Quackenbush > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 6:16 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/OSMF again > > ATTENTION: This e-mail came from an external source. Do not open attachments > or click on links from unknown or unexpected emails. > > >> There are 2 missing icons that I need - Software Management & Software >> Updates. > >> I been through several manuals and have performed additional setup and SAF >> rules that are suppose to provide this function. > > Did you check the "App Center" folder in the lower left corner of the z/OSMF > desktop? I don't know why, but some application icons do not get displayed > on the desktop by default, but you can drag them from the App Center folder > to the desktop. If they are not in the App Center folder then I suggest open > a support case. > > Kurt Quackenbush > IBM | z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management | ku...@us.ibm.com > > Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF again
I can't believe it was that easy. The 2 Icons were there and dragged them to the desktop. Now the hard part starting the installation process.. Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kurt J. Quackenbush Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 6:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF again ATTENTION: This e-mail came from an external source. Do not open attachments or click on links from unknown or unexpected emails. > There are 2 missing icons that I need - Software Management & Software > Updates. > I been through several manuals and have performed additional setup and SAF > rules that are suppose to provide this function. Did you check the "App Center" folder in the lower left corner of the z/OSMF desktop? I don't know why, but some application icons do not get displayed on the desktop by default, but you can drag them from the App Center folder to the desktop. If they are not in the App Center folder then I suggest open a support case. Kurt Quackenbush IBM | z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management | ku...@us.ibm.com Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OSMF again
> There are 2 missing icons that I need - Software Management & Software > Updates. > I been through several manuals and have performed additional setup and SAF > rules that are suppose to provide this function. Did you check the "App Center" folder in the lower left corner of the z/OSMF desktop? I don't know why, but some application icons do not get displayed on the desktop by default, but you can drag them from the App Center folder to the desktop. If they are not in the App Center folder then I suggest open a support case. Kurt Quackenbush IBM | z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management | ku...@us.ibm.com Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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When I logon to z/OSMF all I see is 16 ICONS. There are 2 missing icons that I need - Software Management & Software Updates. I been through several manuals and have performed additional setup and SAF rules that are suppose to provide this function. Any ideas of what I can check first ? Open a case with IBM is the next step. We are z/OS v2.4 and I have a product to install that is only delivered z/OSMF format from IBM. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
