Re: R: z10 BC LPAR Capping question
You MIGHT be. :-) That's why I posed my suggestion of DC more as a question than a prescription. It turns out there's no choice. :-( Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: mario bezzi To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 10/02/2015 23:10 Subject: Re: R: z10 BC LPAR Capping question Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List I know I am saying something obvious, but for sake of clarity: While combining GCL and DC is perfectly fine, it might not address the original need as Defined Capacity doesn't prevent an LPAR from exceeding the defined limit if its 4 Hours Rolling Average stays below this limit. Although not available on z10BC, Absolute Capping, introduced with zBC12/zEc12 GA2, would be the answer. Hope this helps, mario On 02/10/2015 07:25 PM, Fabio Massimo Ottaviani wrote: > Hello Mark > It is not possible. > As soon as you hard cap an LPAR in a group the LPAR is put outside of the group so it's not controlled anymore by the group capacity limit. > As suggested by Martin you could use defined capacity and group capacity together. > Best regards > Fabio > > + > + Fabio Massimo Ottaviani > + EPV Technologies Technical Director > + Skype: fabio.massimo.ottaviani > + Mobile: +393406168088 > + > + IT Cost under Control > + www.epvtech.com > + > > Please consider the environment - do you really need to print this email? > > -Messaggio originale- > Da: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Per conto di Mark Jacobs - Listserv > Inviato: martedì 10 febbraio 2015 16:39 > A: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Oggetto: z10 BC LPAR Capping question > > This isn't my area of expertise, but I've been asked if we can define a capacity defined group and also have one of the members of the group have a hard cap enabled. > > This is on a z10 BC processor. > -- > Mark Jacobs > Time Customer Service > Technology and Product Engineering > > The standard you walk past, is the standard you accept. > Lieutenant General David Morrison > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: R: z10 BC LPAR Capping question
I know I am saying something obvious, but for sake of clarity: While combining GCL and DC is perfectly fine, it might not address the original need as Defined Capacity doesn't prevent an LPAR from exceeding the defined limit if its 4 Hours Rolling Average stays below this limit. Although not available on z10BC, Absolute Capping, introduced with zBC12/zEc12 GA2, would be the answer. Hope this helps, mario On 02/10/2015 07:25 PM, Fabio Massimo Ottaviani wrote: Hello Mark It is not possible. As soon as you hard cap an LPAR in a group the LPAR is put outside of the group so it's not controlled anymore by the group capacity limit. As suggested by Martin you could use defined capacity and group capacity together. Best regards Fabio + + Fabio Massimo Ottaviani + EPV Technologies Technical Director + Skype: fabio.massimo.ottaviani + Mobile: +393406168088 + + IT Cost under Control + www.epvtech.com + Please consider the environment - do you really need to print this email? -Messaggio originale- Da: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Per conto di Mark Jacobs - Listserv Inviato: martedì 10 febbraio 2015 16:39 A: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Oggetto: z10 BC LPAR Capping question This isn't my area of expertise, but I've been asked if we can define a capacity defined group and also have one of the members of the group have a hard cap enabled. This is on a z10 BC processor. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Technology and Product Engineering The standard you walk past, is the standard you accept. Lieutenant General David Morrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
R: z10 BC LPAR Capping question
Hello Mark It is not possible. As soon as you hard cap an LPAR in a group the LPAR is put outside of the group so it's not controlled anymore by the group capacity limit. As suggested by Martin you could use defined capacity and group capacity together. Best regards Fabio + + Fabio Massimo Ottaviani + EPV Technologies Technical Director + Skype: fabio.massimo.ottaviani + Mobile: +393406168088 + + IT Cost under Control + www.epvtech.com + Please consider the environment - do you really need to print this email? -Messaggio originale- Da: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Per conto di Mark Jacobs - Listserv Inviato: martedì 10 febbraio 2015 16:39 A: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Oggetto: z10 BC LPAR Capping question This isn't my area of expertise, but I've been asked if we can define a capacity defined group and also have one of the members of the group have a hard cap enabled. This is on a z10 BC processor. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Technology and Product Engineering The standard you walk past, is the standard you accept. Lieutenant General David Morrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z10 BC LPAR Capping question
Mark, On a zEC12, I have defined a group capacity set containing all lpars that enforces the max 4HRA limit to a value somewhat less. This was done for software billing purposes. I have also hard-capped several unruly lpars at much less than that group capacity MSU value. Not sure if this is supported on a z10, but why not try it on a maintenance window? Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z10 BC LPAR Capping question Not sure. But would a Defined Capacity limit for the LPAR work instead? (Or better?) That certainly can be done - and I've seen it occasionally in my customer set. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Mark Jacobs - Listserv To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 10/02/2015 15:38 Subject: z10 BC LPAR Capping question Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List This isn't my area of expertise, but I've been asked if we can define a capacity defined group and also have one of the members of the group have a hard cap enabled. This is on a z10 BC processor. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Technology and Product Engineering The standard you walk past, is the standard you accept. Lieutenant General David Morrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z10 BC LPAR Capping question
Not sure. But would a Defined Capacity limit for the LPAR work instead? (Or better?) That certainly can be done - and I've seen it occasionally in my customer set. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Mark Jacobs - Listserv To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 10/02/2015 15:38 Subject: z10 BC LPAR Capping question Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List This isn't my area of expertise, but I've been asked if we can define a capacity defined group and also have one of the members of the group have a hard cap enabled. This is on a z10 BC processor. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Technology and Product Engineering The standard you walk past, is the standard you accept. Lieutenant General David Morrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
z10 BC LPAR Capping question
This isn't my area of expertise, but I've been asked if we can define a capacity defined group and also have one of the members of the group have a hard cap enabled. This is on a z10 BC processor. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Technology and Product Engineering The standard you walk past, is the standard you accept. Lieutenant General David Morrison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
