Re: z990 compatibility feature
W dniu 2015-07-19 o 03:09, Tony Thigpen pisze: We have OS390 2.10 and we are wanting to run it on a Z10 native we have a 2098. We had heard that you could install the Z990 compatibility maintenance and run OS390 2.10 on a Z10 so we installed the Z990 compatibility maintenance. What else has to be done to run OS390 2.10 native on a Z10? We only see the the 2084 in the HCD. Can we get the HCD fmid for the z10? There is no z10 compatibility maintenance for OS/390. The last *supported* configurations was OS/390 2.10 with the feature on z990. Later machines were not supported to run OS/390, even with the add-on. Side note: this is deep sh*t situation. You have system which is way out of support, with no service required to run it on anything from z990, and you are guaranteed your system will not run without the feature. Not may not run. Assuming you'll get the compatibility feature, you are still in may not run mode, because it's z10, not z990. How to solve it? My humble advice: order current version of z/OS and install it on z10 or other machine. Then try to move your apps and data onto new system. Work on copy, so you can fail and retry as many times as you need. (I have been in similar situation, done, that.) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2015 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.840.228 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z990 compatibility feature
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 2:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z990 compatibility feature W dniu 2015-07-19 o 03:09, Tony Thigpen pisze: We have OS390 2.10 and we are wanting to run it on a Z10 native we have a 2098. We had heard that you could install the Z990 compatibility maintenance and run OS390 2.10 on a Z10 so we installed the Z990 compatibility maintenance. What else has to be done to run OS390 2.10 native on a Z10? We only see the the 2084 in the HCD. Can we get the HCD fmid for the z10? There is no z10 compatibility maintenance for OS/390. The last *supported* configurations was OS/390 2.10 with the feature on z990. Later machines were not supported to run OS/390, even with the add-on. Side note: this is deep sh*t situation. You have system which is way out of support, with no service required to run it on anything from z990, and you are guaranteed your system will not run without the feature. Not may not run. Assuming you'll get the compatibility feature, you are still in may not run mode, because it's z10, not z990. How to solve it? My humble advice: order current version of z/OS and install it on z10 or other machine. Then try to move your apps and data onto new system. Work on copy, so you can fail and retry as many times as you need. (I have been in similar situation, done, that.) And just by way of encouragement, back around 2010-11 we upgraded three customer sites from OS/390 1.3 (running on Multiprise 2003) to z/OS 1.10 (running on z10) with some applications dating back to the 1970s and earlier. Very few of the applications required any changes (and those were mostly limited to coding errors which subsequent IBM updates started to detect). The major effort was configuring RACF, JES2, and TCPIP to look and feel as close as possible to what the users were used to. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z990 compatibility feature
Hi, I do this kind of upgrade multiple times per year. You would be surprised to know how many sites are still running OS/390 and really old versions of z/OS. You can run OS/390 under z/VM on the Z10, but that is well and truly just a stopgap measure and not a production environment suggestion. Converting from OS/390 to z/OS 1.13 (or 2.2) is a big jump, but easily doable. Depending on your other subsystems and your application dependencies, the entire upgrade should take no longer than 3 months from start to finish. It's the extra subsystems and the non-IBM vendor software that always cause the most problems. If you can supply more information on the software configuration you are currently running with/under OS/390, I can probably point you in the right direction on how to proceed. I am just finishing up a conversion for a County site that needed to replace their mainframe box and so had to move from z/OS 1.4 to z/OS 1.13 (and next to 2.1) so that they could get off an old z/800 and move to a z/BC12. It went very smoothly and except for the fact that their main systems programmer died partway into the conversion (natural causes), there were no big software issues at all. You can also contact me offline if you want and we can discuss where you are software-wise and where you need to position yourself to get things done. Brian Westerman -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
z990 compatibility feature
We have OS390 2.10 and we are wanting to run it on a Z10 native we have a 2098. We had heard that you could install the Z990 compatibility maintenance and run OS390 2.10 on a Z10 so we installed the Z990 compatibility maintenance. What else has to be done to run OS390 2.10 native on a Z10? We only see the the 2084 in the HCD. Can we get the HCD fmid for the z10? -- Tony -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
