Re: zBC12 article on one of my PC sites!
On Tue, 23 Jul 2013 10:56:57 -0500, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/ibm-unveils-new-mainframe-for-the-rest-of-us/ Not a lot in it, but some $ figures. quote The zBC12 includes a number of performance enhancements over IBM's previous midrange offering, the z114. It uses a faster, 4.2GHz 64-bit z/Architecture processor (an improvement over the z114's 3.8GHz CPUs), and has twice the maximum memory of the z114 at 498GB. And as far as mainframes go, the zBC12 is priced to move, starting at $75,000 - or for lease starting at $1,965 a month. That's roughly half the cost of buying the equivalent computing power in commodity x86 hardware. /quote Roughly half the cost of equivalent x86? Who do they think they're trying to kid? The $75,000 model is going to be the absolute rock-bottom low-end model -- when the z114 was announced they were very coy about exactly what were the specs of the entry level model, but it's probably going to be 1 IFL core, 8GB RAM, and no disk storage. Possibly not even a network adapter. You can get the equivalent x86-64 computing power for well under $5000, and that includes 8-core Xeon processor, 16GB memory, 4TB disk storage, dual hotswap power supply, and dual Gigabit ethernet http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=becte4model_id=poweredge-r420c=usl=ens=bsdcs=04 Oh, and the x64 fits in a standard rack and has less than half the power and cooling requirements of the zBC12 (ref: IBM zEnterprise BC12 Technical Guide) http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/abstracts/sg248138.html Roger Bowler Hercules the people's mainframe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
zBC12 article on one of my PC sites!
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/ibm-unveils-new-mainframe-for-the-rest-of-us/ Not a lot in it, but some $ figures. quote The zBC12 includes a number of performance enhancements over IBM’s previous “midrange” offering, the z114. It uses a faster, 4.2GHz 64-bit z/Architecture processor (an improvement over the z114’s 3.8GHz CPUs), and has twice the maximum memory of the z114 at 498GB. And as far as mainframes go, the zBC12 is priced to move, starting at $75,000—or for lease starting at $1,965 a month. That’s roughly half the cost of buying the equivalent computing power in commodity x86 hardware. /quote -- This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an actual emergency, do you really think we'd stick around to tell you? Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zBC12 article on one of my PC sites!
Here's the link to the announcement letter. http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=897letternum=ENUS113-121 Planned availability September 20. On another note, can someone point me to the announcement for end-of-availability for purchasing upgrades to a z10BC? I must be brain-dead because I haven't been able to find it, and in this GINMF (Google is not my friend). Thanks. Rex From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of John McKown [john.archie.mck...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: zBC12 article on one of my PC sites! http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/ibm-unveils-new-mainframe-for-the-rest-of-us/ Not a lot in it, but some $ figures. quote The zBC12 includes a number of performance enhancements over IBM’s previous “midrange” offering, the z114. It uses a faster, 4.2GHz 64-bit z/Architecture processor (an improvement over the z114’s 3.8GHz CPUs), and has twice the maximum memory of the z114 at 498GB. And as far as mainframes go, the zBC12 is priced to move, starting at $75,000—or for lease starting at $1,965 a month. That’s roughly half the cost of buying the equivalent computing power in commodity x86 hardware. /quote -- This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an actual emergency, do you really think we'd stick around to tell you? Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and that you will be held responsible for any such unauthorized activity, including liability for any resulting damages. As appropriate, such incident(s) may also be reported to law enforcement. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments and appended messages, is for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain confidential and legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any review, dissemination, distribution, copying, storage or other use of all or any portion of this message is strictly prohibited. If you received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message in its entirety. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zBC12 article on one of my PC sites!
On 23 July 2013 11:56, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/ibm-unveils-new-mainframe-for-the-rest-of-us/ Not a lot in it, but some $ figures. quote And as far as mainframes go, the zBC12 is priced to move, starting at $75,000—or for lease starting at $1,965 a month. That’s roughly half the cost of buying the equivalent computing power in commodity x86 hardware. /quote I think I hear Lynn typing... Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zBC12 article on one of my PC sites!
Pommier, Rex R. wrote: On another note, can someone point me to the announcement for end-of-availability for purchasing upgrades to a z10BC? I must be brain-dead because I haven't been able to find it, and in this GINMF (Google is not my friend). http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.wss?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/2/897/ENUS911-072/index.htmllang=enrequest_locale=en Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zBC12 article on one of my PC sites!
Pommier, Rex R. wrote: Here's the link to the announcement letter. http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=897letternum=ENUS113-121 Planned availability September 20. On another note, can someone point me to the announcement for end-of-availability for purchasing upgrades to a z10BC? I must be brain-dead because I haven't been able to find it, and in this GINMF (Google is not my friend). snip OK, I'd be remiss if I didn't post the z/OS V2.1 and z/OSMF V2.1 announcement letter links, so before I get to your question: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=ansupplier=897letternum=ENUS213-292 http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=ansupplier=897letternum=ENUS213-308 I think the dates have passed for z10BC upgrades. From: Hardware withdrawal: IBM System z10 EC, IBM System z10 BC, and a selected IBM zEnterprise 196 feature - Replacements available IBM United States Withdrawal Announcement 911-072 July 12, 2011 Effective June 30, 2012, IBM® is withdrawing from marketing: All models of the IBM System z10® Enterprise Class (z10™ EC) and all upgrades to the z10 EC from the IBM eServer™ zSeries® 990 (z990), IBM System z9® EC (z9™ EC), or IBM System z10 BC (z10 BC) All models of the IBM System z10 Business Class (z10 BC) and all upgrades to the z10 BC from the IBM eServer zSeries 890 (z890) or IBM System z9 BC (z9 BC) Model conversions and hardware MES features applied to an existing z10 EC or z10 BC server Field installed features and conversions that are delivered solely through a modification to the machine's Licensed Internal Code (LIC) will continue to be available until June 30, 2013. After June 30, 2013, features and conversions that are delivered solely through a modification to the LIC will be withdrawn. Hint for searching announcement letters: Use the product number rather than the product name. (The product number for z10BC is 2098.) -- John Eells z/OS Technical Marketing IBM Poughkeepsie ee...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zBC12 article on one of my PC sites!
Thanks, John and Sergio; I have no idea why I couldn't find it - other than brain-deadness - but this is exactly the information I was looking for. Rex From: Ed Castro [ed.cas...@hds.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:20 PM To: Pommier, Rex R. Subject: RE: zBC12 article on one of my PC sites! Hi Rex, From announcement letter: ZG11-0116, dated July 12, 2011 I'm trying to find the related US announcement letter.. Effective June 30, 2012, IBM® is withdrawing from marketing: • All models of the IBM System z10® Enterprise Class (z10TM EC) and all upgrades to the z10 EC from the IBM eServerTM zSeries® 990 (z990), IBM System z9® EC (z9TM EC), or IBM System z10 BC (z10 BC) • All models of the IBM System z10 Business Class (z10 BC) and all upgrades to the z10 BC from the IBM eServer zSeries 890 (z890) or IBM System z9 BC (z9 BC) • Model conversions and hardware MES features applied to an existing z10 EC or z10 BC server Field installed features and conversions that are delivered solely through a modification to the machine's Licensed Internal Code (LIC) will continue to be available until June 30, 2013. After June 30, 2013, features and conversions that are delivered solely through a modification to the LIC will be withdrawn. Best Regards. Sergio E. Castro Hitachi Data Systems Global Support Center 15231 Avenue of Science Suite 100 San Diego, CA 92128 USA Phone: 858 537-3075 Office 760 213-9255 Cell/Mobile Email: sergio.cas...@hds.com ed.cas...@hds.com -Original Message- From: Pommier, Rex R. [mailto:rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:12 PM To: Ed Castro Subject: RE: zBC12 article on one of my PC sites! Ed, Thanks, but I read that one and it doesn't contain what I'm looking for. That was the announcement for buying an upgrade from a Z10 to a Z114. I apologize, I wasn't clear. What I am looking for is the announcement that says I cannot buy additional capacity for a Z10BC. Rex From: Ed Castro [ed.cas...@hds.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:59 PM To: Pommier, Rex R. Subject: RE: zBC12 article on one of my PC sites! Read the details in: Hardware withdrawal: IBM zEnterprise 196, IBM zEnterprise 114, IBM zEnterprise BladeCenter Extension Model 002, and selected IBM zEnterprise EC12 features IBM United States Withdrawal Announcement 913-145 http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=ANsubtype=CAappname=gpateamsupplier=897letternum=ENUS913-145pdf=yes Best Regards. Sergio E. Castro Hitachi Data Systems Global Support Center 15231 Avenue of Science Suite 100 San Diego, CA 92128 USA Phone: 858 537-3075 Office 760 213-9255 Cell/Mobile Email: sergio.cas...@hds.com ed.cas...@hds.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R. Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 12:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: zBC12 article on one of my PC sites! Here's the link to the announcement letter. http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=897letternum=ENUS113-121 Planned availability September 20. On another note, can someone point me to the announcement for end-of-availability for purchasing upgrades to a z10BC? I must be brain-dead because I haven't been able to find it, and in this GINMF (Google is not my friend). Thanks. Rex From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of John McKown [john.archie.mck...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: zBC12 article on one of my PC sites! http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/07/ibm-unveils-new-mainframe-for-the-rest-of-us/ Not a lot in it, but some $ figures. quote The zBC12 includes a number of performance enhancements over IBM’s previous “midrange” offering, the z114. It uses a faster, 4.2GHz 64-bit z/Architecture processor (an improvement over the z114’s 3.8GHz CPUs), and has twice the maximum memory of the z114 at 498GB. And as far as mainframes go, the zBC12 is priced to move, starting at $75,000—or for lease starting at $1,965 a month. That’s roughly half the cost of buying the equivalent computing power in commodity x86 hardware. /quote -- This is a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an actual emergency, do you really think we'd stick around to tell you? Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you
