Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release

2017-11-21 Thread zMan
>It seems that IBM's testing of this product has become shoddy at best. The
developers are PC developers and not 3270 users. Clearly they don't "eat"
their own "cooking."

Silly man: assuming that there's anybody left at IBM to test anything any
more! Don't be daft. With fewer than 25K domestic employees, who's got time
to test?! Just ship it.

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Re: Finally joined Linkedin

2017-11-21 Thread ITschak Mugzach
​welcome back!
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> feel free to connect.
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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Rob Scott
A quick FYI, SDSF has the "PARM" (2.1+) and "PROC" (2.2+) commands that display 
the PARMLIB and JES2 PROCLIB concatenations.

You can search for a member name mask in the displayed list and then use NP 
actions to access the matching members.

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This is a small ISPF based utility. I call it SYSPARM because it brings up a 
ISPF option 3.4 like DSN list which contains the system PARMLIB concatenation. 
It might be a nice way to find out where a specific PARMLIB member is: e.g. 
Where is TSOKEY27??

It is 140 lines of HLASM code. I wrote in on z/OS 1.12 and tested it on a
2.3 system as well. Basically it uses IEFPRMLB REQUEST=ALLOCATE to allocate the 
system PARMLIB and then does an ISRDDN ONLY to display that allocation.

ref: https://github.com/JohnArchieMckown/miscutil/blob/master/SYSPARM

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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Andrew Metcalfe
DDLIST (ISRDDN) has this capability out of the box 
Just type PARMLIB to add the logical parmlib concatenation to your display. 
You can then issue O(nly) PARMLIB command followed by M(ember) xxx. 

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Re: ECVTDUCU & "trap" condition in z/OS

2017-11-21 Thread Peter Relson
There is no additional documentation and there are no other references 
because there is no particular need for there to be.

If you are using the trap instructions then you know (or need to know) 
about the trap control block and that the trap instructions architecture 
requires you to provide information controlling the traps within the 
dispatchable unit control table (DUCT). This pointer (and the service 
behind it) was created so that individual trap exploiters would not code 
these updates themselves because they were more likely to get it wrong 
than z/OS development is and were more likely not to be in a position to 
react to architectural changes (such as happened when z/Architecture was 
introduced) than z/OS development is.

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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Jousma, David
Rob,  I've been playing with that too.   ENQC is nice, shows plex-wide enq 
contention, ENQ not so much, kludgy IMO.   By default ENQ is single system, and 
to enable all systems, you have to also specify major name.  So ENQ SYSDSN * to 
get all systems in the plex.   No way to pass any kind of filter on the major 
name, so you get (in my case, a list of 268K entries back) all data set names.  
Which you can then use a filter or find commands against, but why on earth no 
short cut?  

ENQC is easy enough that my operations staff can use it to see who is holding 
up a production batch job.   However on occasion, they want to just "look up" a 
dataset to see if anyone is using it at that moment.   I realize there are 
methods via ISPF 3.4, etc, or just issue the D GRS,RES=(SYSDSN,'DATA.SET.NAME')

As for the "N", I've tried that too.  I don’t know if something is wrong, but 
when I use that, it takes a good 15 seconds for the display to come back, and 
then its scope is only that single system.   Once that list is produced, and 
you issue a "D" next to the dataset to display all enqueues, another 15 
seconds, and even that display is single system.

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Check out the new "ENQ" command in SDSF (2.1+) as it supports sysplex-wide ENQ 
information display.

Note that you can also do an "N" action in the "NP" column on the DA panel to 
show enqueues for the ASID only.

Rob Scott

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My wish for ISRDDN would be to be able to toggle on/off sysplex-wide ENQ data 
for STAR mode GRS configuration.   ISRDDN ENQ pulls up a TASID-like panel, but 
there is no way to make it display global enqueues that I can see.  All I get 
is a LIMITED ENQ DATA in the upper right corner, and extended help says:

This system is running with SETGRS MODE=STAR. ENQ information will not be 
collected from other systems. As a result, ENQ displays may not reflect all of 
the ENQs which are known to GRS.

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John,

I wonder how many of us missed that little improvement. I use ISRDDN enough 
times per day that I created a command table entry for it so that I only have 
to type DDN from anywhere. I just checked the new PARM command in SDSF. If you 
are using SYSNAME *, it will search for a member (masking acceptable) in every 
parmlib dataset listed. I did not see the capability to search for a string 
from that display, unless I missed it in my quick read of the tutorial . Still, 
that member search can be very powerful in its own right, especially in shops 
with tons of lpars.

Bob

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Andrew Metcalfe < 
0149a256c9e8-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> DDLIST (ISRDDN) has this capability out of the box Just type PARMLIB 
> to add the logical parmlib concatenation to your display.
> You can then issue O(nly) PARMLIB command followed by M(ember) xxx.
>
> Andrew
>
>
​Thanks. I knew about the LINKLIST command, but had never noticed the PARMLIB 
command. Oh, well, another one bites the dust. ​


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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Jousma, David
Well, there is that...  :)

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I am sure Rob would be willing to sell you the non-shareware version marketed 
by Rocket Software. :-)

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I like MXI, but in my shop shareware is not to be used outside of our own 
group.   Same with TASID.

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For this, MXI ENQ is your friend. Thanks Rob!

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My wish for ISRDDN would be to be able to toggle on/off sysplex-wide ENQ data 
for STAR mode GRS configuration.   ISRDDN ENQ pulls up a TASID-like panel, but 
there is no way to make it display global enqueues that I can see.  All I get 
is a LIMITED ENQ DATA in the upper right corner, and extended help says:

This system is running with SETGRS MODE=STAR. ENQ information will not be   
collected from other systems. As a result, ENQ displays may not reflect all 
of the ENQs which are known to GRS. 

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John,

I wonder how many of us missed that little improvement. I use ISRDDN enough 
times per day that I created a command table entry for it so that I only have 
to type DDN from anywhere. I just checked the new PARM command in SDSF. If you 
are using SYSNAME *, it will search for a member (masking acceptable) in every 
parmlib dataset listed. I did not see the capability to search for a string 
from that display, unless I missed it in my quick read of the tutorial . Still, 
that member search can be very powerful in its own right, especially in shops 
with tons of lpars.

Bob  

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Andrew Metcalfe < 
0149a256c9e8-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> DDLIST (ISRDDN) has this capability out of the box Just type PARMLIB 
> to add the logical parmlib concatenation to your display.
> You can then issue O(nly) PARMLIB command followed by M(ember) xxx.
>
> Andrew
>
>
​Thanks. I knew about the LINKLIST command, but had never noticed the PARMLIB 
command. Oh, well, another one bites the dust. ​


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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Even ardent GRS star advocates had a hard time buying this story some years 
ago. We had a single non-sharing system where a catalog management job ran many 
times longer than on any other system--even the feeble sysprog sandbox. In 
comparing systems, the only visible difference I could see was that this single 
system was still running GRS ring mode because hey, it was only a single 
system, why bother with star?

On a pure guess, I converted this system to star mode even though it was not 
sharing with anyone else. From that moment onward, the catalog job ran there as 
well as anywhere else. Go figure. 

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Dave,

SDSF primary command syntax is a bit clunky as it has to support "the way it 
has always worked" and every parameter is positional rather than a more modern 
"keyword(value)" or "keyword=value" format.

I have the ear of the current SDSF development team and perhaps they can 
provide something like a "ENQD dsname_pattern" command that would prime the 
major name with "SYSDSN", the SYSNAME with "*" and then filter the minor names 
by the specified pattern. Let me know if this sounds like something you would 
like.

As for the response time of the "N" and "D" line commands, that very much 
sounds like something to do with your GRS configuration - perhaps raise a PMR 
with IBM to investigate if you believe that this is not a simple case of lack 
of CPU power?

Rob Scott

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Rob,  I've been playing with that too.   ENQC is nice, shows plex-wide enq 
contention, ENQ not so much, kludgy IMO.   By default ENQ is single system, and 
to enable all systems, you have to also specify major name.  So ENQ SYSDSN * to 
get all systems in the plex.   No way to pass any kind of filter on the major 
name, so you get (in my case, a list of 268K entries back) all data set names.  
Which you can then use a filter or find commands against, but why on earth no 
short cut?

ENQC is easy enough that my operations staff can use it to see who is holding 
up a production batch job.   However on occasion, they want to just "look up" a 
dataset to see if anyone is using it at that moment.   I realize there are 
methods via ISPF 3.4, etc, or just issue the D GRS,RES=(SYSDSN,'DATA.SET.NAME')

As for the "N", I've tried that too.  I don’t know if something is wrong, but 
when I use that, it takes a good 15 seconds for the display to come back, and 
then its scope is only that single system.   Once that list is produced, and 
you issue a "D" next to the dataset to display all enqueues, another 15 
seconds, and even that display is single system.

_
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Check out the new "ENQ" command in SDSF (2.1+) as it supports sysplex-wide ENQ 
information display.

Note that you can also do an "N" action in the "NP" column on the DA panel to 
show enqueues for the ASID only.

Rob Scott

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Subject: Re: Useful little utility?

My wish for ISRDDN would be to be able to toggle on/off sysplex-wide ENQ data 
for STAR mode GRS configuration.   ISRDDN ENQ pulls up a TASID-like panel, but 
there is no way to make it display global enqueues that I can see.  All I get 
is a LIMITED ENQ DATA in the upper right corner, and extended help says:

This system is running with SETGRS MODE=STAR. ENQ information will not be 
collected from other systems. As a result, ENQ displays may not reflect all of 
the ENQs which are known to GRS.

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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Rob Scott
Dave,

SDSF primary command syntax is a bit clunky as it has to support "the way it 
has always worked" and every parameter is positional rather than a more modern 
"keyword(value)" or "keyword=value" format.

I have the ear of the current SDSF development team and perhaps they can 
provide something like a "ENQD dsname_pattern" command that would prime the 
major name with "SYSDSN", the SYSNAME with "*" and then filter the minor names 
by the specified pattern. Let me know if this sounds like something you would 
like.

As for the response time of the "N" and "D" line commands, that very much 
sounds like something to do with your GRS configuration - perhaps raise a PMR 
with IBM to investigate if you believe that this is not a simple case of lack 
of CPU power?

Rob Scott

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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 2:47 PM
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Subject: Re: Useful little utility?

Rob,  I've been playing with that too.   ENQC is nice, shows plex-wide enq 
contention, ENQ not so much, kludgy IMO.   By default ENQ is single system, and 
to enable all systems, you have to also specify major name.  So ENQ SYSDSN * to 
get all systems in the plex.   No way to pass any kind of filter on the major 
name, so you get (in my case, a list of 268K entries back) all data set names.  
Which you can then use a filter or find commands against, but why on earth no 
short cut?

ENQC is easy enough that my operations staff can use it to see who is holding 
up a production batch job.   However on occasion, they want to just "look up" a 
dataset to see if anyone is using it at that moment.   I realize there are 
methods via ISPF 3.4, etc, or just issue the D GRS,RES=(SYSDSN,'DATA.SET.NAME')

As for the "N", I've tried that too.  I don’t know if something is wrong, but 
when I use that, it takes a good 15 seconds for the display to come back, and 
then its scope is only that single system.   Once that list is produced, and 
you issue a "D" next to the dataset to display all enqueues, another 15 
seconds, and even that display is single system.

_
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Check out the new "ENQ" command in SDSF (2.1+) as it supports sysplex-wide ENQ 
information display.

Note that you can also do an "N" action in the "NP" column on the DA panel to 
show enqueues for the ASID only.

Rob Scott

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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 2:03 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Useful little utility?

My wish for ISRDDN would be to be able to toggle on/off sysplex-wide ENQ data 
for STAR mode GRS configuration.   ISRDDN ENQ pulls up a TASID-like panel, but 
there is no way to make it display global enqueues that I can see.  All I get 
is a LIMITED ENQ DATA in the upper right corner, and extended help says:

This system is running with SETGRS MODE=STAR. ENQ information will not be 
collected from other systems. As a result, ENQ displays may not reflect all of 
the ENQs which are known to GRS.

_
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John,

I wonder how many of us missed that little improvement. I use ISRDDN enough 
times per day that I created a command table entry for it so that I only have 
to type DDN from anywhere. I just checked the new PARM command in SDSF. If you 
are using SYSNAME *, it will search for a member (masking acceptable) in every 
parmlib dataset listed. I did not see the capability to search for a string 
from that display, unless I missed it in my quick read of the tutorial . Still, 
that member search can be very powerful in its own right, especially in shops 
with tons of lpars.

Bob

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Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
In addition to IEBUPDTE-like utilities, StarTool (and I would hope its CBT 
predecessor) has a REPLACE function that can scan an entire PDS(E) and replace 
one string with another as long the result does not exceed line length. It 
allows such filters as WORD, PREFIX, and SUFFIX. You can make a trial run to 
examine the results without actually updating anything before doing it for 
real. Several other options are included as well. Something to keep in mind. 

.
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Hundred+ members. As I mentioned (but it got lost in the what is
midnight argument), I used a CBT program to perform the adds. I just modified 
it to pass-though the ./ INCLUDE cards as data cards.

Tony Thigpen

Wayne Bickerdike wrote on 11/20/2017 11:39 PM:
> oops,
>
> Change all the unwanted ./ cards to ## or similar. After the IEBUPDTE, 
> change them back to ./
>
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Wayne Bickerdike  wrote:
>
>> Assuming the cards with a ./ don't have the correct syntax, why not 
>> do an EXCLUDE ALL, FIND ALL ./.
>>
>> EXCLUDE all the correct ./ cards and then do a DEL ALL NX
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Tony Thigpen  wrote:
>>
>>> I need to catalog a bunch of jobs into a PDS during a conversion. 
>>> The source system utility creates an IEBUPDTE job for this purpose.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, some of the data within these jobs steams contain a './'
>>> at the start of the card record. IEBUPDTE thinks they are control 
>>> cards and cancels the catalog of the new member.
>>>
>>> At this point, the only thing I think should work is to individually 
>>> FTP these members and bypass IEBUPDTE, but that will be a real hassle.
>>>
>>> I am looking for suggestions on how to get these members cataloged.
>>>
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Re: ECVTDUCU & "trap" condition in z/OS

2017-11-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Peter,

Thanks for the reply.  But there is still the second question I asked - Can you 
say if there is any (near?) future possibility of a PC or SVC interface that 
would permit application-level code (problem state, non-zero-key) to use the 
TRAP facility?

Such a facility would make many application-level assembler debugging tools 
(including and maybe especially the CBT collection) far more efficient and 
useful than is currently possible via ESTAEX or BAKR/PR methodologies.

Peter

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Small SMP utility for USS (was "Include FMID, PTFID and APARID as eye catcher in each LMOD")

2017-11-21 Thread Jerry Callen
I've written a little Unix command that uses the SMP/E query API to dig 
information out of the CSI. The output is not especially human-friendly; it's 
intended for processing by scripts. You can get it from github: 
https://github.com/zorts/smpapi

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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Jousma, David
My wish for ISRDDN would be to be able to toggle on/off sysplex-wide ENQ data 
for STAR mode GRS configuration.   ISRDDN ENQ pulls up a TASID-like panel, but 
there is no way to make it display global enqueues that I can see.  All I get 
is a LIMITED ENQ DATA in the upper right corner, and extended help says:

This system is running with SETGRS MODE=STAR. ENQ information will not be   
collected from other systems. As a result, ENQ displays may not reflect all 
of the ENQs which are known to GRS. 

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I wonder how many of us missed that little improvement. I use ISRDDN enough 
times per day that I created a command table entry for it so that I only have 
to type DDN from anywhere. I just checked the new PARM command in SDSF. If you 
are using SYSNAME *, it will search for a member (masking acceptable) in every 
parmlib dataset listed. I did not see the capability to search for a string 
from that display, unless I missed it in my quick read of the tutorial . Still, 
that member search can be very powerful in its own right, especially in shops 
with tons of lpars.

Bob  

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Andrew Metcalfe < 
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> DDLIST (ISRDDN) has this capability out of the box Just type PARMLIB 
> to add the logical parmlib concatenation to your display.
> You can then issue O(nly) PARMLIB command followed by M(ember) xxx.
>
> Andrew
>
>
​Thanks. I knew about the LINKLIST command, but had never noticed the PARMLIB 
command. Oh, well, another one bites the dust. ​


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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
John,

I wonder how many of us missed that little improvement. I use ISRDDN enough 
times per day that I created a command table entry for it so that I only have 
to type DDN from anywhere. I just checked the new PARM command in SDSF. If you 
are using SYSNAME *, it will search for a member (masking acceptable) in every 
parmlib dataset listed. I did not see the capability to search for a string 
from that display, unless I missed it in my quick read of the tutorial . Still, 
that member search can be very powerful in its own right, especially in shops 
with tons of lpars.

Bob  

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Andrew Metcalfe < 
0149a256c9e8-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> DDLIST (ISRDDN) has this capability out of the box Just type PARMLIB 
> to add the logical parmlib concatenation to your display.
> You can then issue O(nly) PARMLIB command followed by M(ember) xxx.
>
> Andrew
>
>
​Thanks. I knew about the LINKLIST command, but had never noticed the PARMLIB 
command. Oh, well, another one bites the dust. ​


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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Rob Scott
Check out the new "ENQ" command in SDSF (2.1+) as it supports sysplex-wide ENQ 
information display.

Note that you can also do an "N" action in the "NP" column on the DA panel to 
show enqueues for the ASID only.

Rob Scott

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My wish for ISRDDN would be to be able to toggle on/off sysplex-wide ENQ data 
for STAR mode GRS configuration.   ISRDDN ENQ pulls up a TASID-like panel, but 
there is no way to make it display global enqueues that I can see.  All I get 
is a LIMITED ENQ DATA in the upper right corner, and extended help says:

This system is running with SETGRS MODE=STAR. ENQ information will not be
collected from other systems. As a result, ENQ displays may not reflect all
of the ENQs which are known to GRS.

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John,

I wonder how many of us missed that little improvement. I use ISRDDN enough 
times per day that I created a command table entry for it so that I only have 
to type DDN from anywhere. I just checked the new PARM command in SDSF. If you 
are using SYSNAME *, it will search for a member (masking acceptable) in every 
parmlib dataset listed. I did not see the capability to search for a string 
from that display, unless I missed it in my quick read of the tutorial . Still, 
that member search can be very powerful in its own right, especially in shops 
with tons of lpars.

Bob

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Andrew Metcalfe < 
0149a256c9e8-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> DDLIST (ISRDDN) has this capability out of the box Just type PARMLIB
> to add the logical parmlib concatenation to your display.
> You can then issue O(nly) PARMLIB command followed by M(ember) xxx.
>
> Andrew
>
>
​Thanks. I knew about the LINKLIST command, but had never noticed the PARMLIB 
command. Oh, well, another one bites the dust. ​


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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
For this, MXI ENQ is your friend. Thanks Rob!

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My wish for ISRDDN would be to be able to toggle on/off sysplex-wide ENQ data 
for STAR mode GRS configuration.   ISRDDN ENQ pulls up a TASID-like panel, but 
there is no way to make it display global enqueues that I can see.  All I get 
is a LIMITED ENQ DATA in the upper right corner, and extended help says:

This system is running with SETGRS MODE=STAR. ENQ information will not be   
collected from other systems. As a result, ENQ displays may not reflect all 
of the ENQs which are known to GRS. 

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John,

I wonder how many of us missed that little improvement. I use ISRDDN enough 
times per day that I created a command table entry for it so that I only have 
to type DDN from anywhere. I just checked the new PARM command in SDSF. If you 
are using SYSNAME *, it will search for a member (masking acceptable) in every 
parmlib dataset listed. I did not see the capability to search for a string 
from that display, unless I missed it in my quick read of the tutorial . Still, 
that member search can be very powerful in its own right, especially in shops 
with tons of lpars.

Bob  

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Andrew Metcalfe < 
0149a256c9e8-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> DDLIST (ISRDDN) has this capability out of the box Just type PARMLIB 
> to add the logical parmlib concatenation to your display.
> You can then issue O(nly) PARMLIB command followed by M(ember) xxx.
>
> Andrew
>
>
​Thanks. I knew about the LINKLIST command, but had never noticed the PARMLIB 
command. Oh, well, another one bites the dust. ​


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Re: ECVTDUCU & "trap" condition in z/OS

2017-11-21 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Peter Relson  wrote:

> There is no additional documentation and there are no other references
> because there is no particular need for there to be.
>
> If you are using the trap instructions then you know (or need to know)
> about the trap control block and that the trap instructions architecture
> requires you to provide information controlling the traps within the
> dispatchable unit control table (DUCT). This pointer (and the service
> behind it) was created so that individual trap exploiters would not code
> these updates themselves because they were more likely to get it wrong
> than z/OS development is and were more likely not to be in a position to
> react to architectural changes (such as happened when z/Architecture was
> introduced) than z/OS development is.
>
> Peter Relson
> z/OS Core Technology Design
>

​So, it is GUPI. But it is not going to be documented in a manual such as
"Authorized Assembler Services Guide". IOW, as the preacher said in
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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
"Scotty, I need more power!"  :-)

On my zEC12 system with three logical CPs, observably less than a second.

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Rob,  I've been playing with that too.   ENQC is nice, shows plex-wide enq 
contention, ENQ not so much, kludgy IMO.   By default ENQ is single system, and 
to enable all systems, you have to also specify major name.  So ENQ SYSDSN * to 
get all systems in the plex.   No way to pass any kind of filter on the major 
name, so you get (in my case, a list of 268K entries back) all data set names.  
Which you can then use a filter or find commands against, but why on earth no 
short cut?  

ENQC is easy enough that my operations staff can use it to see who is holding 
up a production batch job.   However on occasion, they want to just "look up" a 
dataset to see if anyone is using it at that moment.   I realize there are 
methods via ISPF 3.4, etc, or just issue the D GRS,RES=(SYSDSN,'DATA.SET.NAME')

As for the "N", I've tried that too.  I don’t know if something is wrong, but 
when I use that, it takes a good 15 seconds for the display to come back, and 
then its scope is only that single system.   Once that list is produced, and 
you issue a "D" next to the dataset to display all enqueues, another 15 
seconds, and even that display is single system.

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Check out the new "ENQ" command in SDSF (2.1+) as it supports sysplex-wide ENQ 
information display.

Note that you can also do an "N" action in the "NP" column on the DA panel to 
show enqueues for the ASID only.

Rob Scott

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Subject: Re: Useful little utility?

My wish for ISRDDN would be to be able to toggle on/off sysplex-wide ENQ data 
for STAR mode GRS configuration.   ISRDDN ENQ pulls up a TASID-like panel, but 
there is no way to make it display global enqueues that I can see.  All I get 
is a LIMITED ENQ DATA in the upper right corner, and extended help says:

This system is running with SETGRS MODE=STAR. ENQ information will not be 
collected from other systems. As a result, ENQ displays may not reflect all of 
the ENQs which are known to GRS.

_
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1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717

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John,

I wonder how many of us missed that little improvement. I use ISRDDN enough 
times per day that I created a command table entry for it so that I only have 
to type DDN from anywhere. I just checked the new PARM command in SDSF. If you 
are using SYSNAME *, it will search for a member (masking acceptable) in every 
parmlib dataset listed. I did not see the capability to search for a string 
from that display, unless I missed it in my quick read of the tutorial . Still, 
that member search can be very powerful in its own right, especially in shops 
with tons of lpars.

Bob

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Subject: Re: Useful little utility?

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Andrew Metcalfe < 
0149a256c9e8-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> DDLIST (ISRDDN) has this capability out of the box Just type PARMLIB 
> to add the logical parmlib concatenation to your display.
> You can then issue O(nly) PARMLIB command followed by M(ember) xxx.
>
> Andrew
>
>
​Thanks. I knew about the LINKLIST command, but had never noticed the PARMLIB 
command. Oh, well, another one bites the dust. ​


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Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 20 Nov 2017 23:15:14 -0600, Edward Gould wrote:
>
>> I suspect 1-8 was an intended accommodation to VB.  And in another apparent
>> accommodation, ISPF Edit until recently would not create an 8-character 
>> record
>> but always padded it with an additional blank.
>
>I don’t think so as SPF wasn’t around when MVS first came out. I “think” it 
>was 5 or so years afterwards, so that wasn’t the reason.
>
Have  you a more plausible conjecture?  If not, I'm sticking with mine.  And
the chronology you assume fits with my explanation.

>> In days of yore panel definitions for SPF (now known as ISPF) were VB.  
>> Abruptly
>> they changed to FB.  Disruptively -- it broke all my customized panels.  
>> Cognoscenti
>> surmised this was an accommodation to SMP(/E) and IEBUPDTE.
>
>I will admit that I am leary of that explanation, ...
>> 
Why?

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Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 15:32:37 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:

>Assuming the cards with a ./ don't have the correct syntax, why not do an
>EXCLUDE ALL, FIND ALL ./.
>
>EXCLUDE all the correct ./ cards and then do a DEL ALL NX
> 
I asumed he wanted them preserved as data records, not deleted.

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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Jousma, David
Thanks for the feedback Rob.   I doubt its lack of horsepower.  I'll have to 
dig into this further.

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Dave,

SDSF primary command syntax is a bit clunky as it has to support "the way it 
has always worked" and every parameter is positional rather than a more modern 
"keyword(value)" or "keyword=value" format.

I have the ear of the current SDSF development team and perhaps they can 
provide something like a "ENQD dsname_pattern" command that would prime the 
major name with "SYSDSN", the SYSNAME with "*" and then filter the minor names 
by the specified pattern. Let me know if this sounds like something you would 
like.

As for the response time of the "N" and "D" line commands, that very much 
sounds like something to do with your GRS configuration - perhaps raise a PMR 
with IBM to investigate if you believe that this is not a simple case of lack 
of CPU power?

Rob Scott

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Rob,  I've been playing with that too.   ENQC is nice, shows plex-wide enq 
contention, ENQ not so much, kludgy IMO.   By default ENQ is single system, and 
to enable all systems, you have to also specify major name.  So ENQ SYSDSN * to 
get all systems in the plex.   No way to pass any kind of filter on the major 
name, so you get (in my case, a list of 268K entries back) all data set names.  
Which you can then use a filter or find commands against, but why on earth no 
short cut?

ENQC is easy enough that my operations staff can use it to see who is holding 
up a production batch job.   However on occasion, they want to just "look up" a 
dataset to see if anyone is using it at that moment.   I realize there are 
methods via ISPF 3.4, etc, or just issue the D GRS,RES=(SYSDSN,'DATA.SET.NAME')

As for the "N", I've tried that too.  I don’t know if something is wrong, but 
when I use that, it takes a good 15 seconds for the display to come back, and 
then its scope is only that single system.   Once that list is produced, and 
you issue a "D" next to the dataset to display all enqueues, another 15 
seconds, and even that display is single system.

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Check out the new "ENQ" command in SDSF (2.1+) as it supports sysplex-wide ENQ 
information display.

Note that you can also do an "N" action in the "NP" column on the DA panel to 
show enqueues for the ASID only.

Rob Scott

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My wish for ISRDDN would be to be able to toggle on/off sysplex-wide ENQ data 
for STAR mode GRS configuration.   ISRDDN ENQ pulls up a TASID-like panel, but 
there is no way to make it display global enqueues that I can see.  All I get 
is a LIMITED ENQ DATA in the upper right corner, and extended help says:

This system is running with SETGRS MODE=STAR. ENQ information will not be 
collected from other systems. As a result, ENQ displays may not reflect all of 
the ENQs which are known to GRS.

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Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release

2017-11-21 Thread Ed Jaffe

Just installed PCOMM 13.0. It was released November 9, 2017.

The DEL key just beeps. Doesn't delete *any* characters!

IBM's PCOMM developers must not have actual 3270 users participating in 
the their early testing. I hereby volunteer...



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Re: [TSO-REXX] Fwd: Pipelines in the z/OS base.

2017-11-21 Thread Hobart Spitz
Martin wrote:
> A DFSORT stage would/could/should allow all the myriad* DFSORT control
statements. And be for heavy lifting. Those are the two reasons I suggested
it.

I was going to do some details research (my DFSORT knowledge is probably
out of date, for which I take responsibility), but time is short, and I
don't want the issue to get stale.  I believe you are referring to
INCLUDE/OMIT, INREC/OUTREC, etc.

I hope this answers your point.  I don't know if your statement is true, or
will ever be implemented.  I will say that Pipelines offers so many more
options in record selection, formatting, conversion and field
specification, that what you suggest probably will never need to be
implemented.

Here's why:

- Of the 300+ Pipelines stages, many are selection stages.  In this case,
"many" is much more than myriad, AFAIK, by an order of magniture.  There
are simple selectors, but also complex ones that support conversions,
logic, arithmetic, and reformatting.

- Fields can be identified by character, word, or delimited field.  Each of
these can used as substring to an enclosing specification, to multiple
levels.  E.g., take the second slash delimited subfield in the seventh tab
delimited field to get a numeric month value.   And you are not limited to
blanks as white space or tabs as delimiters.

- The DFSORT program product control statements can only be used in
connection with the sort process.  Pipelines stages can be used even when
you are not sorting.  In other words, Pipelines skills, while being easy to
learn (unlike my recollection of DFSORT control statement), they have a
vastly broader range of applicable uses.

- The DFSORT program product E15 and E35 internal sort exits can only be
used once per sort.  Pipelines stages bring this efficiency to each and
every stage in a Pipeline.  To press the point, unlike the need for record
and field definitions in, say, a COBOL internal sort exit, the intermediate
records don't have to be defined, and fields only have to be referenced if
they are actually involved in the a particular stage.

- Finally, you can process unselected records without having to reprocess
the entire input file, as shown below.

Business problem:  You have an externally produced name and address file
that has to be sorted by ZIP code to get a USPS discount rate.  There are
two types of records, business and residential.  The fields are free format
and tab delimited.  The business records differ from residential records in
that there are additional fields:  Company after  the name fields and an
ATTN: field after the ZIP code.  This would be trivial in pipes if the ZIP
code were the last field, but we can't use that because of the ATTN: field.

A pipes approach is as follows:  Separate the records into streams and
prefix each record with its ZIP code.  Then sort by the ZIP in the first
field, discard the prefix ZIP.  It would look something like this in
commented REXX. ( Visualizing someone else's multi-stream pipe is easier
with a flow chart.)

...
/**/
/*  f200:  f800:  */
/* +-+   +-+   ++   +-+   +--+   ++   +-+ */
/* |<|-->|p|-->|spec|-->|f|-->|dfsort|-->|chop|-->|>| */
/* +-+   |i|   ++   |a|   +--+   ++   +-+ */
/*   |c||n|   */
/*   |k|   ++   |i|   */
/*   | |-->|spec|-->|n|   */
/*   +-+   ++   +-+   */
/**/
"pipe (listerr name ZIPSort.exec end ?",
  "|   out.file  */

  "? f200:  ", /* Business record come here.  */
  "|   specsfield 9 1  1-* nextfield", /* ZIP pfx */
  "| f800:  ", /* Back to first stream.   */
...


I hope this helps.  Even if there are features new (to me) of DFSORT would
make some of my statements incorrect, I'm quite sure that the remaining
ones would still drive the point home easily.

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 3:01 AM, Martin Packer 
wrote:

> A DFSORT stage would/could/should allow all the myriad* DFSORT control
> statements. And be for heavy lifting. Those are the two reasons I suggested
> it.
>
> And note a DFSORT stage could be tested outside of a pipeline.
>
> Also note Pipelines could orchestrate multiple DFSORT invocations in a
> chain.
>
> Cheers, Martin
>
> * If you don’t 

Re: Finally joined Linkedin

2017-11-21 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Here I am in a short week of work and trying to get z/OS 2.02 ready to go in on 
one of my LPARS a week from today and with a couple of regular problems being 
thrown my way, "Loopy" does not half describe my state, so take the following 
with solid grins, please:

Do we have a new work in the English language, "oined"?  :)  (Yes, I know 
someone forgot to hit the "j", but like I said, I am LOOPY today!)

Al Nims
Systems Admin/Programmer 3
UFIT
University of Florida
(352) 273-1298

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Subject: Finally joined Linkedin

I've been inactive since my Internet provider folded up with no advance notice. 
A lot has happened since then, most of which is off topic, but it seems 
reasonable to post here that I've finally oined LinkedIn from e-mail address 
sme...@gmu.edu. For those of you who are on LinkedIn and know me, feel free to 
connect.


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Re: [TSO-REXX] Fwd: Pipelines in the z/OS base.

2017-11-21 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Hi, 

Here is a sample DFSORT job that reads a pipe and does a sort while 
modifying the data using inrec(before sorting) Outrec(after sorting) and 
Outfil 

//PIPEDEMA JOB (DA26,001,098,J69),'KOLUSU', 
// CLASS=A, 
// MSGCLASS=H, 
// MSGLEVEL=(1,1), 
// NOTIFY= 
//* 
//** 
//* DELETE THE INPUT PIPE DATASET IF IT EXISTED   ** 
//** 
//STEP0001 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//DD1  DD DSN=, 
//UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,0),DISP=(MOD,DELETE) 
//* 
//** 
//* CREATE THE INPUT TO SORT AND WRITE IT TO A PIPE   ** 
//* WILL HAVE 60 RECORDS (20 RECORDS FOR EACH NAME)   ** 
//** 
//PIPERCRE EXEC PGM=SORT 
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=* 
//SORTIN   DD * 
PAUL 
MARTIN 
HOBART 
//SORTOUT  DD DSN=, 
//SUBSYS=(BP01,'WAITOPEN=180'), 
//DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=27920) 
//SYSINDD * 
  OPTION COPY 
  OUTFIL REPEAT=20,OVERLAY=(20:SEQNUM,3,ZD,RESTART=(1,10)) 
/* 
//PIPEDEMB JOB (DA26,001,098,J69),'KOLUSU', 
// CLASS=A, 
// MSGCLASS=H, 
// MSGLEVEL=(1,1), 
// NOTIFY= 
//* 
//** 
//* READ THE PIPE AND USING INREC MODIFY MARTIN RECORDS   ** 
//* SORT THE DATA ON NAME AND SEQUENCE DESCENDING ** 
//* MODIFY PAUL RECORDS USING OUTREC  ** 
//* MODIFY HOBART RECORDS USING OUTFIL** 
//** 
//PIPEREAD EXEC PGM=SORT 
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=* 
//SORTDIAG DD DUMMY 
//SORTIN   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=, 
//SUBSYS=(BP01,'WAITOPEN=180'), 
//DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=27920) 
//SORTOUT  DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSINDD * 
  INREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(01,10,CH,EQ,C'MARTIN',AND, 
  20,03,SS,EQ,C'005,010,015,020'), 
OVERLAY=(31:C'EVERY 5TH RECORD TAGGED USING INREC')) 
 
  SORT FIELDS=(01,10,CH,A, $ SORT ON NAME ASC 
   21,03,ZD,D) $ SORT ON SEQ DESC 
 
  OUTREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(01,10,CH,EQ,C'PAUL',AND, 
   20,03,SS,EQ,C'006,012,018'), 
OVERLAY=(31:C'TAGGED EVERY 6TH RECORD USING OUTREC')) 
 
  OUTFIL IFTHEN=(WHEN=(01,10,CH,EQ,C'HOBART',AND, 
   20,03,CH,EQ,C'020'), 
OVERLAY=(31:C'RECORD 20 IS TAGGED USING OUTFIL')) 
 
/* 

Further if you have any questions please let me know

Thanks, 
Kolusu
DFSORT Development
IBM Corporation

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 
11/21/2017 01:05:40 PM:

> From: Hobart Spitz 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 11/21/2017 01:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [TSO-REXX] Fwd: Pipelines in the z/OS base.
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
> Martin wrote:
> > A DFSORT stage would/could/should allow all the myriad* DFSORT control
> statements. And be for heavy lifting. Those are the two reasons I 
suggested
> it.
> 
> I was going to do some details research (my DFSORT knowledge is probably
> out of date, for which I take responsibility), but time is short, and I
> don't want the issue to get stale.  I believe you are referring to
> INCLUDE/OMIT, INREC/OUTREC, etc.
> 
> I hope this answers your point.  I don't know if your statement is true, 
or
> will ever be implemented.  I will say that Pipelines offers so many more
> options in record selection, formatting, conversion and field
> specification, that what you suggest probably will never need to be
> implemented.
> 
> Here's why:
> 
> - Of the 300+ Pipelines stages, many are selection stages.  In this 
case,
> "many" is much more than myriad, AFAIK, by an order of magniture.  There
> are simple selectors, but also complex ones that support conversions,
> logic, arithmetic, and reformatting.
> 
> - Fields can be identified by character, word, or delimited field.  Each 
of
> these can used as substring to an enclosing specification, to multiple
> levels.  E.g., take the second slash delimited subfield in the seventh 
tab
> delimited field to get a numeric month value.   And you are not limited 
to
> blanks as white space or tabs as delimiters.
> 
> - The DFSORT program product control statements can only be used in
> connection with the sort process.  Pipelines stages can be used even 
when
> you are not sorting.  In other words, Pipelines skills, while being easy 
to
> learn (unlike my recollection of DFSORT control statement), they have a
> vastly broader range of applicable uses.
> 
> - The DFSORT program product E15 and E35 internal sort exits can only be
> used once per sort.  Pipelines stages bring this efficiency to each and
> every stage in a Pipeline.  To press the point, unlike the need for 

Re: Finally joined Linkedin

2017-11-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
Blame the keyboard; I'm not dyslexic. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.


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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 4:48 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Finally joined Linkedin

Here I am in a short week of work and trying to get z/OS 2.02 ready to go in on 
one of my LPARS a week from today and with a couple of regular problems being 
thrown my way, "Loopy" does not half describe my state, so take the following 
with solid grins, please:

Do we have a new work in the English language, "oined"?  :)  (Yes, I know 
someone forgot to hit the "j", but like I said, I am LOOPY today!)

Al Nims
Systems Admin/Programmer 3
UFIT
University of Florida
(352) 273-1298

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Subject: Finally joined Linkedin

I've been inactive since my Internet provider folded up with no advance notice. 
A lot has happened since then, most of which is off topic, but it seems 
reasonable to post here that I've finally oined LinkedIn from e-mail address 
sme...@gmu.edu. For those of you who are on LinkedIn and know me, feel free to 
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Re: Finally joined Linkedin

2017-11-21 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Yes, typical SysProg excuse, "That's a Hardware problem, I only do Software!" :)

PS: My fingers have been know to miss a key or two, even the entire keyboard! :)

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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 4:48 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Finally joined Linkedin

Here I am in a short week of work and trying to get z/OS 2.02 ready to go in on 
one of my LPARS a week from today and with a couple of regular problems being 
thrown my way, "Loopy" does not half describe my state, so take the following 
with solid grins, please:

Do we have a new work in the English language, "oined"?  :)  (Yes, I know 
someone forgot to hit the "j", but like I said, I am LOOPY today!)

Al Nims
Systems Admin/Programmer 3
UFIT
University of Florida
(352) 273-1298

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I've been inactive since my Internet provider folded up with no advance notice. 
A lot has happened since then, most of which is off topic, but it seems 
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Finally joined Linkedin

2017-11-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
I've been inactive since my Internet provider folded up with no advance notice. 
A lot has happened since then, most of which is off topic, but it seems 
reasonable to post here that I've finally oined LinkedIn from e-mail address 
sme...@gmu.edu. For those of you who are on LinkedIn and know me, feel free to 
connect.


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Re: [TSO-REXX] Fwd: Pipelines in the z/OS base.

2017-11-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I have never worked with pipes in a production batch environment. In a classic 
batch job, if a problem occurs somewhere in the middle, it's common to restart 
the job at some recoverable point after fixing the downstream problem. I cannot 
visualize how to restart a pipes job in such a case. Without intermediate files 
to resume with, how does all that in-memory data get recreated without starting 
back at the top? 

In a short or medium length job, starting over may not be such a big problem, 
but for a job that runs hours on a good day, I could envision some major 
production schedule glitches with pipes.

.
.
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Hi, 

Here is a sample DFSORT job that reads a pipe and does a sort while modifying 
the data using inrec(before sorting) Outrec(after sorting) and Outfil 

//PIPEDEMA JOB (DA26,001,098,J69),'KOLUSU', 
// CLASS=A, 
// MSGCLASS=H, 
// MSGLEVEL=(1,1), 
// NOTIFY= 
//*
//** 
//* DELETE THE INPUT PIPE DATASET IF IT EXISTED   ** 
//**
//STEP0001 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//DD1  DD DSN=, 
//UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,0),DISP=(MOD,DELETE) 
//*
//** 
//* CREATE THE INPUT TO SORT AND WRITE IT TO A PIPE   ** 
//* WILL HAVE 60 RECORDS (20 RECORDS FOR EACH NAME)   ** 
//**
//PIPERCRE EXEC PGM=SORT 
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=* 
//SORTIN   DD * 
PAUL
MARTIN
HOBART
//SORTOUT  DD DSN=, 
//SUBSYS=(BP01,'WAITOPEN=180'), 
//DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=27920) 
//SYSINDD * 
  OPTION COPY
  OUTFIL REPEAT=20,OVERLAY=(20:SEQNUM,3,ZD,RESTART=(1,10))
/*
//PIPEDEMB JOB (DA26,001,098,J69),'KOLUSU', 
// CLASS=A, 
// MSGCLASS=H, 
// MSGLEVEL=(1,1), 
// NOTIFY= 
//*
//** 
//* READ THE PIPE AND USING INREC MODIFY MARTIN RECORDS   ** 
//* SORT THE DATA ON NAME AND SEQUENCE DESCENDING ** 
//* MODIFY PAUL RECORDS USING OUTREC  ** 
//* MODIFY HOBART RECORDS USING OUTFIL** 
//**
//PIPEREAD EXEC PGM=SORT 
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=* 
//SORTDIAG DD DUMMY 
//SORTIN   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=, 
//SUBSYS=(BP01,'WAITOPEN=180'), 
//DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=27920) 
//SORTOUT  DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSINDD * 
  INREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(01,10,CH,EQ,C'MARTIN',AND, 
  20,03,SS,EQ,C'005,010,015,020'), 
OVERLAY=(31:C'EVERY 5TH RECORD TAGGED USING INREC')) 
 
  SORT FIELDS=(01,10,CH,A, $ SORT ON NAME ASC 
   21,03,ZD,D) $ SORT ON SEQ DESC 
 
  OUTREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(01,10,CH,EQ,C'PAUL',AND, 
   20,03,SS,EQ,C'006,012,018'), 
OVERLAY=(31:C'TAGGED EVERY 6TH RECORD USING OUTREC')) 
 
  OUTFIL IFTHEN=(WHEN=(01,10,CH,EQ,C'HOBART',AND, 
   20,03,CH,EQ,C'020'), 
OVERLAY=(31:C'RECORD 20 IS TAGGED USING OUTFIL')) 
 
/* 

Further if you have any questions please let me know

Thanks,
Kolusu
DFSORT Development
IBM Corporation

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on
11/21/2017 01:05:40 PM:

> From: Hobart Spitz 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 11/21/2017 01:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [TSO-REXX] Fwd: Pipelines in the z/OS base.
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
> Martin wrote:
> > A DFSORT stage would/could/should allow all the myriad* DFSORT 
> > control
> statements. And be for heavy lifting. Those are the two reasons I
suggested
> it.
> 
> I was going to do some details research (my DFSORT knowledge is 
> probably out of date, for which I take responsibility), but time is 
> short, and I don't want the issue to get stale.  I believe you are 
> referring to INCLUDE/OMIT, INREC/OUTREC, etc.
> 
> I hope this answers your point.  I don't know if your statement is 
> true,
or
> will ever be implemented.  I will say that Pipelines offers so many 
> more options in record selection, formatting, conversion and field 
> specification, that what you suggest probably will never need to be 
> implemented.
> 
> Here's why:
> 
> - Of the 300+ Pipelines stages, many are selection stages.  In this
case,
> "many" is much more than myriad, AFAIK, by an order of 

Re: Finally joined Linkedin

2017-11-21 Thread David Mingee
Glad to see you are back.  Missed your great comments.
I remember an old friend who was a dyslexic, insomniac and an
atheist.  He stayed awake most of the night
Wondering if there really was a DOG.

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Subject: Re: Finally joined Linkedin

Welcome back!

Charles

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Blame the keyboard; I'm not dyslexic. That's my story and I'm
sticking to it.


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Subject: Re: Finally joined Linkedin

Here I am in a short week of work and trying to get z/OS 2.02 ready
to go in on one of my LPARS a week from today and with a couple of
regular problems being thrown my way, "Loopy" does not half describe
my state, so take the following with solid grins, please:

Do we have a new work in the English language, "oined"?  :)  (Yes, I
know someone forgot to hit the "j", but like I said, I am LOOPY
today!)

Al Nims
Systems Admin/Programmer 3
UFIT
University of Florida
(352) 273-1298

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Subject: Finally joined Linkedin

I've been inactive since my Internet provider folded up with no
advance notice. A lot has happened since then, most of which is off
topic, but it seems reasonable to post here that I've finally oined
LinkedIn from e-mail address sme...@gmu.edu. For those of you who
are on LinkedIn and know me, feel free to connect.


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Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release

2017-11-21 Thread Tom Conley

On 11/21/2017 4:28 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote:

Just installed PCOMM 13.0. It was released November 9, 2017.

The DEL key just beeps. Doesn't delete *any* characters!

IBM's PCOMM developers must not have actual 3270 users participating in 
the their early testing. I hereby volunteer...





LOL that you expect a reasonable default keyboard.  WAKE UP, MAN!

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CF REPORT

2017-11-21 Thread ibmm...@foxmail.com

Hi all 

 Below is our three CF reports at the same time.

Report 1. CFSYS from RMF MONIII

The Coupling Facility Systems (CF Systems) report (CFSYS) gives you information 
about the distribution of coupling facility requests

among the systems and about the activities in the subchannels and paths 
attached to the coupling facilities in the sysplex

 CF Name  System   Subchannel   -- Paths --  -- Sync ---  --- Async ---
   Delay  Busy  Avail Delay   Rate  AvgRate  Avg  Chng  Del
 %  %   %   Serv Serv   %%
BPC3C1   NP1A   0.1   97.84 0.00.1497   26344 1187  49.6 
50.3
Note1: The Subchannel Delay =0.1% 

Report 2 :  SUBCHANNEL  ACTIVITY from RMF Postprocessor 
   C O U P L I N G   F A C I L I T Y   A C T I V I T Y

PAGE 225
 z/OS V2R2   SYSPLEX PLEXNP1 DATE 11/15/2017
   INTERVAL 015.00.000
 RPT VERSION V2R2 RMFTIME 23.45.00  
   CYCLE 01.000 SECONDS


--
 COUPLING FACILITY NAME = BPC3C1

--
SUBCHANNEL  ACTIVITY

--
  # REQ  --- REQUESTS ---   
-- DELAYED REQUESTS --
 SYSTEM   TOTAL   -- CF LINKS --  PTH #   -SERVICE TIME(MIC)-   
   # % OF  -- AVG TIME(MIC) --
 NAME AVG/SEC TYPE  GEN  USE  BUSYREQ AVGSTD_DEV
   REQREQ   /DELSTD_DEV /ALL

 NP1A  18567K CS5 44 2   SYNC  4654K   10.7  18.7   
LIST/CACHE   12M 62.8   1719   1954 1080
   20630  SUBCH  64   32 ASYNC13757K  990.7 700.5   
LOCK  0   0.00.00.0  0.0
 CHANGED  11244K INCLUDED IN ASYNC  
TOTAL12M 62.8

note2: Subchannel DELAYED REQUESTS %=62.8


Report 3 :COUPLING  FACILITY  STRUCTURE  ACTIVITY  from RMF Postprocessor   
 C O U P L I N G   F A C I L I T Y   A C T I V I T Y

PAGE 121
 z/OS V2R2   SYSPLEX PLEXNP1 DATE 11/15/2017
   INTERVAL 015.00.000
 RPT VERSION V2R2 RMFTIME 23.45.00  
   CYCLE 01.000 SECONDS


--
 COUPLING FACILITY NAME = BPC3C1

--
   COUPLING  FACILITY  STRUCTURE  
ACTIVITY

  

 STRUCTURE NAME = DSNEP01_GBP16K1   TYPE = CACHE  STATUS = ACTIVE
   # REQ-- REQUESTS -   -- 
DELAYED REQUESTS -
 SYSTEMTOTAL # % OF  -SERV TIME(MIC)-REASON#   
% OF   AVG TIME(MIC) -
 NAME  AVG/SEC   REQALL AVG   STD_DEVREQ
REQ   /DELSTD_DEV   /ALL

 NP1A   7474K   SYNC254K0.419.5 62.4 NO SCH 7012K  
93.8   2463   1074   2311
8304ASYNC  7220K   11.6  1433.0569.2 PR WT 0
0.00.00.00.0
CHNGD  7098K   11.4  INCLUDED IN ASYNC   PR CMP0
0.00.00.00.0
SUPPR 0 0.0  DUMP  0
0.00.00.00.0

note3 : Subchannel DELAYED REQUESTS %=93.8%  
Our question: 1 Why these three report is difference for   Subchannel Delay? 
2 Why The Subchannel Delay is just 0.1% in  CFSYS ?
Thanks a lot!Best Regards,
Jason Cai




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Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release

2017-11-21 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 11/21/2017 6:57 PM, Tom Conley wrote:


LOL that you expect a reasonable default keyboard.  WAKE UP, MAN!


This problem is not caused by a messed up keyboard map. Incredibly, the 
DEL key simply does not work any more!


Believe it or not, as inconvenient as it is, it's actually a *less* 
serious bug than what I had been dealing with in PCOMM 12.02. (Buffer 
overruns i.e., input not accepted properly if one types too fast over a 
remote connection!)


I was perfectly happy with PCOMM 6.x and never would have upgraded 
except that it didn't work with the Windows 10 Creators Update Edition.


It seems that IBM's testing of this product has become shoddy at best. 
The developers are PC developers and not 3270 users. Clearly they don't 
"eat" their own "cooking."


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Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release

2017-11-21 Thread Charles Mills
Tom Brennan Vista?

Charles

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Of Ed Jaffe
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 7:37 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release

On 11/21/2017 6:57 PM, Tom Conley wrote:
>
> LOL that you expect a reasonable default keyboard.  WAKE UP, MAN!

This problem is not caused by a messed up keyboard map. Incredibly, the DEL key 
simply does not work any more!

Believe it or not, as inconvenient as it is, it's actually a *less* serious bug 
than what I had been dealing with in PCOMM 12.02. (Buffer overruns i.e., input 
not accepted properly if one types too fast over a remote connection!)

I was perfectly happy with PCOMM 6.x and never would have upgraded except that 
it didn't work with the Windows 10 Creators Update Edition.

It seems that IBM's testing of this product has become shoddy at best. 
The developers are PC developers and not 3270 users. Clearly they don't "eat" 
their own "cooking."

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Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release

2017-11-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Two words. Vista TN3270. 

.
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Of Ed Jaffe
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 7:37 PM
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Subject: (External):Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release

On 11/21/2017 6:57 PM, Tom Conley wrote:
>
> LOL that you expect a reasonable default keyboard.  WAKE UP, MAN!

This problem is not caused by a messed up keyboard map. Incredibly, the DEL key 
simply does not work any more!

Believe it or not, as inconvenient as it is, it's actually a *less* serious bug 
than what I had been dealing with in PCOMM 12.02. (Buffer overruns i.e., input 
not accepted properly if one types too fast over a remote connection!)

I was perfectly happy with PCOMM 6.x and never would have upgraded except that 
it didn't work with the Windows 10 Creators Update Edition.

It seems that IBM's testing of this product has become shoddy at best. 
The developers are PC developers and not 3270 users. Clearly they don't "eat" 
their own "cooking."

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Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release

2017-11-21 Thread Ed Jaffe

On 11/21/2017 7:43 PM, Charles Mills wrote:

Tom Brennan Vista?


We use that too (an excellent product). We use most of the most 
well-known emulators: PCOMM, Extra!, BlueZone, Hummingbird, QWS3270, 
etc. even x3270


I know Tom "eats" his own "cooking," probably with a fork, knife, and 
spoon...


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Re: [TSO-REXX] Fwd: Pipelines in the z/OS base.

2017-11-21 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Jesse,

If one end of the pipe fails for any reason, then both ends would have to 
be rerun.  The redbook "Batch Modernization on 
z/OS"  chapter 16 
explains the use of Batch pipes. Martin Packer is one of the co-author. 

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247779.html

Thanks,
Kolusu



From:   Jesse 1 Robinson 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   11/21/2017 03:13 PM
Subject:Re: [TSO-REXX] Fwd: Pipelines in the z/OS base.
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List 



I have never worked with pipes in a production batch environment. In a 
classic batch job, if a problem occurs somewhere in the middle, it's 
common to restart the job at some recoverable point after fixing the 
downstream problem. I cannot visualize how to restart a pipes job in such 
a case. Without intermediate files to resume with, how does all that 
in-memory data get recreated without starting back at the top? 

In a short or medium length job, starting over may not be such a big 
problem, but for a job that runs hours on a good day, I could envision 
some major production schedule glitches with pipes.

.
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Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 1:54 PM
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Hi, 

Here is a sample DFSORT job that reads a pipe and does a sort while 
modifying the data using inrec(before sorting) Outrec(after sorting) and 
Outfil 

//PIPEDEMA JOB (DA26,001,098,J69),'KOLUSU', 
// CLASS=A, 
// MSGCLASS=H, 
// MSGLEVEL=(1,1), 
// NOTIFY= 
//*
//** 
//* DELETE THE INPUT PIPE DATASET IF IT EXISTED   ** 
//**
//STEP0001 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//DD1  DD DSN=, 
//UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,0),DISP=(MOD,DELETE) 
//*
//** 
//* CREATE THE INPUT TO SORT AND WRITE IT TO A PIPE   ** 
//* WILL HAVE 60 RECORDS (20 RECORDS FOR EACH NAME)   ** 
//**
//PIPERCRE EXEC PGM=SORT 
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=* 
//SORTIN   DD * 
PAUL
MARTIN
HOBART
//SORTOUT  DD DSN=, 
//SUBSYS=(BP01,'WAITOPEN=180'), 
//DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=27920) 
//SYSINDD * 
  OPTION COPY
  OUTFIL REPEAT=20,OVERLAY=(20:SEQNUM,3,ZD,RESTART=(1,10))
/*
//PIPEDEMB JOB (DA26,001,098,J69),'KOLUSU', 
// CLASS=A, 
// MSGCLASS=H, 
// MSGLEVEL=(1,1), 
// NOTIFY= 
//*
//** 
//* READ THE PIPE AND USING INREC MODIFY MARTIN RECORDS   ** 
//* SORT THE DATA ON NAME AND SEQUENCE DESCENDING ** 
//* MODIFY PAUL RECORDS USING OUTREC  ** 
//* MODIFY HOBART RECORDS USING OUTFIL** 
//**
//PIPEREAD EXEC PGM=SORT 
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=* 
//SORTDIAG DD DUMMY 
//SORTIN   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=, 
//SUBSYS=(BP01,'WAITOPEN=180'), 
//DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=27920) 
//SORTOUT  DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSINDD * 
  INREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(01,10,CH,EQ,C'MARTIN',AND, 
  20,03,SS,EQ,C'005,010,015,020'), 
OVERLAY=(31:C'EVERY 5TH RECORD TAGGED USING INREC')) 
 
  SORT FIELDS=(01,10,CH,A, $ SORT ON NAME ASC 
   21,03,ZD,D) $ SORT ON SEQ DESC 
 
  OUTREC IFTHEN=(WHEN=(01,10,CH,EQ,C'PAUL',AND, 
   20,03,SS,EQ,C'006,012,018'), 
OVERLAY=(31:C'TAGGED EVERY 6TH RECORD USING OUTREC')) 
 
  OUTFIL IFTHEN=(WHEN=(01,10,CH,EQ,C'HOBART',AND, 
   20,03,CH,EQ,C'020'), 
OVERLAY=(31:C'RECORD 20 IS TAGGED USING OUTFIL')) 
 
/* 

Further if you have any questions please let me know

Thanks,
Kolusu
DFSORT Development
IBM Corporation

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on
11/21/2017 01:05:40 PM:

> From: Hobart Spitz 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 11/21/2017 01:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [TSO-REXX] Fwd: Pipelines in the z/OS base.
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
> Martin wrote:
> > A DFSORT stage would/could/should allow all the myriad* DFSORT 
> > control
> statements. And be for heavy lifting. Those are the two reasons I
suggested
> it.
> 
> I was going to do some details research (my DFSORT knowledge is 
> probably out of date, for which I take responsibility), but time is 
> short, and I don't want the 

Re: Finally joined Linkedin

2017-11-21 Thread Charles Mills
Welcome back!

Charles

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Blame the keyboard; I'm not dyslexic. That's my story and I'm sticking to
it.


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Nims,Alva John (Al) 
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 4:48 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Finally joined Linkedin

Here I am in a short week of work and trying to get z/OS 2.02 ready to go in
on one of my LPARS a week from today and with a couple of regular problems
being thrown my way, "Loopy" does not half describe my state, so take the
following with solid grins, please:

Do we have a new work in the English language, "oined"?  :)  (Yes, I know
someone forgot to hit the "j", but like I said, I am LOOPY today!)

Al Nims
Systems Admin/Programmer 3
UFIT
University of Florida
(352) 273-1298

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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 4:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Finally joined Linkedin

I've been inactive since my Internet provider folded up with no advance
notice. A lot has happened since then, most of which is off topic, but it
seems reasonable to post here that I've finally oined LinkedIn from e-mail
address sme...@gmu.edu. For those of you who are on LinkedIn and know me,
feel free to connect.


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Re: Finally joined Linkedin

2017-11-21 Thread J R
Hear, hear!  I was beginning to fear the worst. 

> On Nov 21, 2017, at 18:35, Charles Mills  wrote:
> 
> Welcome back!
> 
> Charles
> 
> ---
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 4:23 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Finally joined Linkedin
> 
> I've been inactive since my Internet provider folded up with no advance
> notice. A lot has happened since then, most of which is off topic, but it
> seems reasonable to post here that I've finally oined LinkedIn from e-mail
> address sme...@gmu.edu. For those of you who are on LinkedIn and know me,
> feel free to connect.
> 
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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread John McKown
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Andrew Metcalfe <
0149a256c9e8-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> DDLIST (ISRDDN) has this capability out of the box
> Just type PARMLIB to add the logical parmlib concatenation to your display.
> You can then issue O(nly) PARMLIB command followed by M(ember) xxx.
>
> Andrew
>
>
​Thanks. I knew about the LINKLIST command, but had never noticed the
PARMLIB command. Oh, well, another one bites the dust. ​


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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Jousma, David
I like MXI, but in my shop shareware is not to be used outside of our own 
group.   Same with TASID.

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For this, MXI ENQ is your friend. Thanks Rob!

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My wish for ISRDDN would be to be able to toggle on/off sysplex-wide ENQ data 
for STAR mode GRS configuration.   ISRDDN ENQ pulls up a TASID-like panel, but 
there is no way to make it display global enqueues that I can see.  All I get 
is a LIMITED ENQ DATA in the upper right corner, and extended help says:

This system is running with SETGRS MODE=STAR. ENQ information will not be   
collected from other systems. As a result, ENQ displays may not reflect all 
of the ENQs which are known to GRS. 

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John,

I wonder how many of us missed that little improvement. I use ISRDDN enough 
times per day that I created a command table entry for it so that I only have 
to type DDN from anywhere. I just checked the new PARM command in SDSF. If you 
are using SYSNAME *, it will search for a member (masking acceptable) in every 
parmlib dataset listed. I did not see the capability to search for a string 
from that display, unless I missed it in my quick read of the tutorial . Still, 
that member search can be very powerful in its own right, especially in shops 
with tons of lpars.

Bob  

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Andrew Metcalfe < 
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> DDLIST (ISRDDN) has this capability out of the box Just type PARMLIB 
> to add the logical parmlib concatenation to your display.
> You can then issue O(nly) PARMLIB command followed by M(ember) xxx.
>
> Andrew
>
>
​Thanks. I knew about the LINKLIST command, but had never noticed the PARMLIB 
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Re: Useful little utility?

2017-11-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I am sure Rob would be willing to sell you the non-shareware version marketed 
by Rocket Software. :-)

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I like MXI, but in my shop shareware is not to be used outside of our own 
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For this, MXI ENQ is your friend. Thanks Rob!

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My wish for ISRDDN would be to be able to toggle on/off sysplex-wide ENQ data 
for STAR mode GRS configuration.   ISRDDN ENQ pulls up a TASID-like panel, but 
there is no way to make it display global enqueues that I can see.  All I get 
is a LIMITED ENQ DATA in the upper right corner, and extended help says:

This system is running with SETGRS MODE=STAR. ENQ information will not be   
collected from other systems. As a result, ENQ displays may not reflect all 
of the ENQs which are known to GRS. 

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I wonder how many of us missed that little improvement. I use ISRDDN enough 
times per day that I created a command table entry for it so that I only have 
to type DDN from anywhere. I just checked the new PARM command in SDSF. If you 
are using SYSNAME *, it will search for a member (masking acceptable) in every 
parmlib dataset listed. I did not see the capability to search for a string 
from that display, unless I missed it in my quick read of the tutorial . Still, 
that member search can be very powerful in its own right, especially in shops 
with tons of lpars.

Bob  

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On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:41 AM, Andrew Metcalfe < 
0149a256c9e8-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> DDLIST (ISRDDN) has this capability out of the box Just type PARMLIB 
> to add the logical parmlib concatenation to your display.
> You can then issue O(nly) PARMLIB command followed by M(ember) xxx.
>
> Andrew
>
>
​Thanks. I knew about the LINKLIST command, but had never noticed the PARMLIB 
command. Oh, well, another one bites the dust. ​


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Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 19:14:30 -0600, Edward Gould wrote:
>> 
 In days of yore panel definitions for SPF (now known as ISPF) were VB.  
 Abruptly
 they changed to FB.  Disruptively -- it broke all my customized panels.  
 Cognoscenti
 surmised this was an accommodation to SMP(/E) and IEBUPDTE.
>>> 
>>> I will admit that I am leary of that explanation, ...
 
>> Why?
>
>Way back then concatenation of VB and FB wasn’t available.
>
But that's exactly what broke my customized panels when IBM changed
their panels from VB to FB.  Concatenating mine with theirs suddenly
failed where it had worked as long as IBM's panels were VB.

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Re: Finally joined Linkedin

2017-11-21 Thread Steve Horein
Glad to see you back!

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> seems reasonable to post here that I've finally oined LinkedIn from e-mail
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Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-21 Thread Edward Gould
> On Nov 21, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Jesse 1 Robinson  
> wrote:
> 
> In addition to IEBUPDTE-like utilities, StarTool (and I would hope its CBT 
> predecessor) has a REPLACE function that can scan an entire PDS(E) and 
> replace one string with another as long the result does not exceed line 
> length. It allows such filters as WORD, PREFIX, and SUFFIX. You can make a 
> trial run to examine the results without actually updating anything before 
> doing it for real. Several other options are included as well. Something to 
> keep in mind. 
> 
> .
> .

Skip:

I never had the free tool, I always used the $$ version. I also will freely 
admit it has saved my ass many a time. Little story: Way back in the XA days, 
we had just put an enormous number of JES2 fixes on and I *DID* look at each 
hold on the 30-40 fixes. None of them mentioned the fact that JES2 would no 
longer accept a specific JECL parameter. About 0500 I had just let the 
production system go, so they started to run jobs. About 5 minutes later I get 
a call saying something is wrong and the JECL parameter is flagged as an error. 
I started to look at it and to me it seemed valid, so I headed for the manual 
and it agreed with what I was saying it was valid. I was sweating as I didn’t 
want to back out all the maintenance. I looked at other option and found one. I 
had no idea how many of these were in production. I did a quick scan of the 
library where production came out of and found 10 jobs. I said to myself go for 
it, so I did a scan/replace and it found the 10 jobs. I called back to 
production control and asked them too resubmit. Just about the time he 
submitted it, The VP walked into the office of the supervisor where I was at 
and asked if we should back out as we had until 6 AM of the stock markets would 
not open. I said wait one minute and I called back to production control and 
the job ran successfully. I turned around to the VP and said, no everything is 
fine. He looked at me and said he had been told there was a major issue and I 
said no sir, it was a minor issue which has been fixed. After that morning I 
went back through every JES2 fix that went on and there was NOT a single hold. 
I then went back and read the cover letters and found the blasted fix. I called 
in to the support center and bitched at the level 1 people and asked to be 
connected to level 2. I let level 2 know in no uncertain terms that a HOLD was 
mandatory for something like this. I didn’t get a lot of oops we are sorry, so 
at the next SHARE, I buttonholed one of the JES2 IBMers and raged on him. From 
then on JES2 was good at putting out holds on PTFS.
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Re: Finally joined Linkedin

2017-11-21 Thread Edward Gould
> On Nov 21, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Seymour J Metz  wrote:
> 
> I've been inactive since my Internet provider folded up with no advance 
> notice. A lot has happened since then, most of which is off topic, but it 
> seems reasonable to post here that I've finally oined LinkedIn from e-mail 
> address sme...@gmu.edu. For those of you who are on LinkedIn and know me, 
> feel free to connect.
> 
> 
> —

Welcome Back!!, you have really been missed.
Hope your ISP issue has been straightened out.

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Re: IEBUPDTE question

2017-11-21 Thread Edward Gould
> On Nov 21, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Paul Gilmartin 
> <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
> Have  you a more plausible conjecture?  If not, I'm sticking with mine.  And
> the chronology you assume fits with my explanation.
> 
>>> In days of yore panel definitions for SPF (now known as ISPF) were VB.  
>>> Abruptly
>>> they changed to FB.  Disruptively -- it broke all my customized panels.  
>>> Cognoscenti
>>> surmised this was an accommodation to SMP(/E) and IEBUPDTE.
>> 
>> I will admit that I am leary of that explanation, ...
>>> 
> Why?

Way back then concatenation of VB and FB wasn’t available.
Ed
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Re: [TSO-REXX] Fwd: Pipelines in the z/OS base.

2017-11-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 15:37:57 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote:
>
>If one end of the pipe fails for any reason, then both ends would have to 
>be rerun.  The redbook "Batch Modernization on 
z/OS"  chapter 16 
>explains the use of Batch pipes. Martin Packer is one of the co-author. 
>
>http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247779.html
>
SORT is a weak instructional tool for pipe concepts.  As in:
CMS Pipelines User’s Guide and Reference:
sort—Order Records
...
Record Delay:   sort delays all records until end-of-file.

I.e. SORT writes nothing until it has completely read its input.  One
might as well write to a temp file and sort that.

A better example might be to use ICETOOL to do a minor reformtting,
record-by-record, of its input.  And generate that input with an EXEC
that emits a record every few seconds.  And use SDSF to track its
output in real time.  But beware: a Master Plumber is apt to jump in
with SPECS stages that do the same thing, faster, better, cheaper.

QSAM buffering will introduce some parasitic delay unless you use
unbuffered RECFM.

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Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release

2017-11-21 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I eat the same cooking. Have not used any other emulator since Tom moseyed by 
my desk one day eons ago and said, I'd like you to try this out. I was hooked. 

But I understand the need to keep one's feet wet in different emulators. Even 
Tom did that for several reasons. Ha! I was more of purist than Tom. ;-)

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On 11/21/2017 7:43 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
> Tom Brennan Vista?

We use that too (an excellent product). We use most of the most well-known 
emulators: PCOMM, Extra!, BlueZone, Hummingbird, QWS3270, etc. even x3270

I know Tom "eats" his own "cooking," probably with a fork, knife, and spoon...

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Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release

2017-11-21 Thread David Crayford

On 22/11/2017 11:36 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote:


LOL that you expect a reasonable default keyboard.  WAKE UP, MAN!


This problem is not caused by a messed up keyboard map. Incredibly, 
the DEL key simply does not work any more!


Believe it or not, as inconvenient as it is, it's actually a *less* 
serious bug than what I had been dealing with in PCOMM 12.02. (Buffer 
overruns i.e., input not accepted properly if one types too fast over 
a remote connection!)


I was perfectly happy with PCOMM 6.x and never would have upgraded 
except that it didn't work with the Windows 10 Creators Update Edition.


It seems that IBM's testing of this product has become shoddy at best. 
The developers are PC developers and not 3270 users. Clearly they 
don't "eat" their own "cooking." 


It's disconcerting that IBM don't seem to have automated regressions 
tests for PCOMM! A broken delete key is an absolute howler.


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Re: Shocking Bug in Latest PCOMM Release

2017-11-21 Thread Jack J. Woehr

On 11/21/2017 8:44 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:

Two words. Vista TN3270.



One word: x3270


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Re: doubt on catalog

2017-11-21 Thread johnnydeep san
is it possible to copy master catalog of sys A to SYST ?

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 6:33 PM, johnnydeep san 
wrote:

> on RDZ ,SYSA lpar we mentioned script like this" 0A91  3390
> C:\**\***\  "   ,  is non-sms volume i installed  product
> using smpe  and place the all required data-set on
>   .  Now we planned to use the same product  on SYST , instead of
> installing the product from scratch , we planed to go with volume transfer
> . so we include the below
>  " 0A91  3390  C:\**\***\  "  on  SYST devmap.
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:36 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht <
> elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za> wrote:
>
>> johnnydeep san wrote:
>>
>> >>Is the dasd shared?  Or did you transfer to new system?
>> >DASD is not shared , i transferred to new system
>>
>> How did you transferred them to the new system? Perhaps you used
>> incorrect settings or cataloging process.
>>
>> Please post the job and results of your transfer attempt.
>>
>> Groete / Greetings
>> Elardus Engelbrecht
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