Re: I-D Action:draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-01.txt
On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:45 AM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : HTTP Live Streaming Author(s) : R. Pantos Filename: draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-01.txt Pages : 17 Date: 2009-06-08 This document describes a protocol for transmitting unbounded streams of multimedia data over HTTP. It specifies the data format of the files and the actions to be taken by the server (sender) and the clients (receivers) of the streams. It describes version 1.0 of this protocol. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-pantos-http-live- streaming-01.txt I find this draft to be quite annoying. It doesn't have anything to do with HTTP or live, or really even streaming -- the title is just from the marketing term that Apple has chosen to describe this concept in general. What the draft defines is a set of media type extensions to the unregistered audio/x-mpegurl media type (M3U Playlist format) that provide additional information for an indirect request of a stream via sequential requests on the listed URIs. While I think that might be a fine idea, it should start by registering the media type being extended, and the title/introduction should reflect what the document defines so that the right people will review it prior to publication. I don't like it when the IETF is abused for marketing purposes. Roy ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: I-D Action:draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-01.txt
On Tue Jun 9 12:57:45 2009, Roy T. Fielding wrote: I don't like it when the IETF is abused for marketing purposes. To be fair: a) This one is *just* a poorly written draft, rather than also being filled with Apple product name-dropping, and gushing remarks about The Jobs. b) Apple are, at least, producing a public specification in a reasonable forum for discussion. Overall, then, credit where credit is due - Apple do appear to be improving. Maybe it'll rub off on some of the other large and trendy companies. Dave. -- Dave Cridland - mailto:d...@cridland.net - xmpp:d...@dave.cridland.net - acap://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/ - http://dave.cridland.net/ Infotrope Polymer - ACAP, IMAP, ESMTP, and Lemonade ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
Re: I-D Action:draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-01.txt
On Jun 9, 2009, at 05:28, Dave Cridland wrote: To be fair: a) This one is *just* a poorly written draft [...]. ...as an individual contribution, ...in the Informational category. b) Apple are, at least, producing a public specification in a reasonable forum for discussion. Moreover, Mr. Pantos chose IETF rather than some slushpile with looser editorial standards. We should be happy when a company as secretive as Apple allows their employees to submit drafts to us, even-- especially-- when the manuscripts that land in our slushpile are not yet ready for immediate publication. If IETF doesn't think the information in this draft is worth compiling into a document worthy of sending to the RFC Editor, then that would be good for Mr. Pantos to know. It would probably save him a lot of effort and frustration. I'm sure he looks forward to whatever constructive feedback IETF participants can provide, and I can assure everyone here that nobody at Apple feels their employment status entitles them to any special consideration for their individual contributions. -- james woodyatt j...@apple.com member of technical staff, communications engineering ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
