Re: Re[2]: Last Call: Using XML-RPC in BEEP to Proposed Standard

2002-10-11 Thread Ward Harold





As John says XML-RPC actually predates SOAP. It's also simpler and thus
easier to implement but SOAP has better support for handling complex types.
Ultimately you have to choose the one that best meets your application
requirements. I do feel strongly that HTTP is the wrong transport protocol
for an RPC mechanism; BEEP is a much better choice.

... WkH

p.s. RFC 3288 describes how to use SOAP over BEEP




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Ward,
thanks for explanations and references. I have one more question.
XMLRPC is similar to SOAP in abilities and applications,
as I understand. But on my personal opinion, if to compare,
XMLRPC has much more winning data representation. Envelope is
terrible itself. Here question, whether is necessary to have two
realizations of the RPC using XML? I think that it is not profits
integration and compatibility. It seems to me that it is necessary
to seek cooperation between developers for establishing of the
trade-off decision.

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Re: Re[2]: Last Call: Using XML-RPC in BEEP to Proposed Standard

2002-10-11 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks

On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:45:39 CDT, Ward Harold said:

 requirements. I do feel strongly that HTTP is the wrong transport protocol
 for an RPC mechanism; BEEP is a much better choice.

HTTP has the advantage of usually being passed by firewalls.

Now take a deep breath and ask yourself What's wrong with this picture? :)



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Re: Re[2]: Last Call: Using XML-RPC in BEEP to Proposed Standard

2002-10-11 Thread Caitlin Bestler
On 10/11/02, Ward Harold wrote:


As John says XML-RPC actually predates SOAP. It's also
simpler and thus easier to implement but SOAP has better
support for handling complex types. Ultimately you have to
choose the one that best meets your application
requirements.


 p.s. RFC 3288 describes how to use SOAP over BEEP

For systems that have to support SOAP *anyway*, XML-RPC
would be an additional feature to implement. If a
developer already has a SOAP implementation available,
are there any justifications for using XML-RPC?

- Reduced code space?
- Shorter messages to accomplish the same calls?
- More robust handling of any conditions?

I'm not throwing these out as rhetorical questions.
These are just the types of justifications I would want
for maintaining two options, rather than settling on one.

A quick google scan for justifications mostly came up
with arguments on why XML-RPC would be better *instead
of* SOAP. Are there valid arguments on why it is a
valuable tool *in addition to* SOAP?


Caitlin Bestler
http://asomi.com/CaitlinBestler/