Re: Mixed environments (Was Re: [Ilugc] fossconf'09 talk slide)
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Ashok Gautham thescriptde...@gmail.comwrote: Mr. Kenneth, I would appreciate it if you called it right name. After all, Micorsoft is not Lord Voldemort (Pardon the old love Micorsoft!!! You made it too ;). Bye, Krishna. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: Mixed environments (Was Re: [Ilugc] fossconf'09 talk slide)
On 3/1/09, Ashok Gautham thescriptde...@gmail.com wrote: That-Which-Must-Not-Be-Named Top notch --- Esse Quam Videri krisk.wordpress.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: Mixed environments (Was Re: [Ilugc] fossconf'09 talk slide)
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 22:39 +0530, Ashok Gautham wrote: Mr. Kenneth, I would appreciate it if you called it Microsoft Windows and not MicroShaft or Microshit WINDOZE or WINBLOWS Why not? Pros: 1. No one searching for help on a particular Win(dows|doze|blows) issue will have to selectively filter out the ilugc archives. Cons: 1. None! It is easy to see that it's Micro(soft|shaft|shit) and its products that are being referred to. 2. None! Operating Systems don't have feelings. Seems to me Kenneth is preserving signal-to-noise. -- Regards, Roshan George ros...@arjie.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Mixed environments (Was Re: [Ilugc] fossconf'09 talk slide)
Hello, On Sun, 01 Mar 2009, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: some use windows - although usually with openoffice and thunderbird. There is no fatwa in this regard. In principle, this is a sensible point of view. As far as AU-KBC is concerned all the servers are linux - a lot of the desktops are also linux, but the majority of them are windows. AFAIK it is left to the individual to choose his/her OS. There are even some MSDOS machines which control some of the older equipment. One question which is worth asking in such mixed environments is: Who helps to manage the machines? Typically, if you buy a product then you are entitled to support for that product, so the burden of support for Windows machines *must* be passed on to the vendor you bought them from (or MicroSoft). It *is* harmful to FOSS if FOSS developers spend a lot of their time making such machines work instead of completing their FOSS projects. Regards, Kapil. -- ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: Mixed environments (Was Re: [Ilugc] fossconf'09 talk slide)
On Sunday 01 March 2009 13:42:13 Kapil Hari Paranjape wrote: As far as AU-KBC is concerned all the servers are linux - a lot of the desktops are also linux, but the majority of them are windows. AFAIK it is left to the individual to choose his/her OS. There are even some MSDOS machines which control some of the older equipment. One question which is worth asking in such mixed environments is: Who helps to manage the machines? projects buy legal doze and doze supports them - how and why is something that doesnt interest me. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: Mixed environments (Was Re: [Ilugc] fossconf'09 talk slide)
Mr. Kenneth, I would appreciate it if you called it Microsoft Windows and not MicroShaft or Microshit WINDOZE or WINBLOWS I am a F/OSS enthusiast. But I most certainly prefer referring to products by their right name. After all, Micorsoft is not Lord Voldemort (Pardon the old love for Harry Potter) to be called That-Which-Must-Not-Be-Named If your dislike for Microsoft actually is so high that typing the right name out hurts, you should take the pain of shifting all your work to Free Software machines. How did we all like it when Tuomov Valkonen(Creator of ion wm) call us lusers (linux users). The very fact that you involve yourself in too much of policing of this mailing list wastes some time that you can spend constructively in developing the missing links that construe this dependency on proprietary products. I may be wrong in saying that policing is bad. But the phrases M$ Windoze and Dont Top/Bottom/Left/Right/Centre/Next-Dimension Post are a bigger eye-sore and take more time filtering away than the actually top post that most modern mail clients cleverly fold away --- Ashok `ScriptDevil` Gautham ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: Mixed environments (Was Re: [Ilugc] fossconf'09 talk slide)
On Sunday 01 March 2009 22:39:09 Ashok Gautham wrote: Mr. Kenneth, I would appreciate it if you called it Microsoft Windows and not MicroShaft or Microshit WINDOZE or WINBLOWS good names - will use them instead of 'windoze' in future If your dislike for Microsoft actually is so high that typing the right name out hurts, you should take the pain of shifting all your work to Free Software machines. all my work is already on free software machines I may be wrong in saying that policing is bad. But the phrases M$ Windoze and Dont Top/Bottom/Left/Right/Centre/Next-Dimension Post are a bigger eye-sore and take more time filtering away than the actually top post that most modern mail clients cleverly fold away you are entitled to your opinion, but you are also expected to follow list rules. For example you may be of the opinion that we should drive on the right side of the road like most of rest of the world - but you are not entitled to drive on the right side until such a rule comes into place. Top posting interrupts the thread of discussion and is irritating and also against the list rules - so I will continue to fight against it. -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: Mixed environments (Was Re: [Ilugc] fossconf'09 talk slide)
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Ashok Gautham thescriptde...@gmail.com wrote: Mr. Kenneth, I would appreciate it if you called it Microsoft Windows and not MicroShaft or Microshit WINDOZE or WINBLOWS I certainly agree. Even i don't like windows that much. But I think instead of doing such things, we can concentrate on a better thing that is at hand.. Linux.. If we go out and fight with Microsoft or any other person who thinks high of Windows, we're making a mistake. There'll be no difference between us and them. We use better Operating System(s) and we know it. But others may not think so. So we'll be hurting them in the process of using funny names. Almost all linux users use linux cuz they've had problems with Windows.. It applies at least to people i know.. So let us try and educate ppl about linux instead of cursing microsoft.. -- Bhargav Prasanna ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: Mixed environments (Was Re: [Ilugc] fossconf'09 talk slide)
Hello everyone , seems to be another flame in the making anyway just wanted to make it clear that . Microsoft Windows( or it being bad) is not the main reason why we use linux( atleast not me, I have never used windows). So microsoft is not our agenda, ... as was said in a mail on the list a month ago, we should talk about FOSS/Linux , rather than defacing Ms windows. This is not to suppose that using altered names is defacing. It might hurt someone's feelings, but mind you it is a common practice on the web to use altered names to imply sarcasm. So this discussion on personal conventions/styles seems to be as worthless ( as my reply to it :-), no hard feelings for anyone !).. Cheers Satish -- http://satish.playdrupal.com ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with unsubscribe password address in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc