Re: [Ilugc] a note on BOSS
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Srinivasan Sundararajan srini.it@ gmail.com wrote: As part of NRCFOSS project CDAC Chennai had brought out Bharat Operating System Solutions (BOSS) Does BOSS has a mailing list? The links at http://bosslinux.in/join-us/cdac/join-us/boss-suport are not working. -- Arun S.A.G ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] a note on BOSS
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Srinivasan Sundararajan srini.it@ gmail.com wrote: As part of NRCFOSS project CDAC Chennai had brought out Bharat Operating System Solutions (BOSS) Does BOSS has a mailing list? The links at http://bosslinux.in/join-us/cdac/join-us/boss-suport are not working. and this link too https://portal.otc.nic.in/ -Satya ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: Does BOSS has a mailing list? The links at http://bosslinux.in/join-us/cdac/join-us/boss-suport are not working. thanks for pointing out the missing links. since some revamp work is on, some of the links are unavailable (some structural changes are also being planned). however, we are keeping forums active where boss teams members could give their response. Please register and send your queries thru : http://forums.bosslinux.in/ Srinivasan CDAC Chennai. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:35 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.comwrote: and this link too https://portal.otc.nic.in/ -Satya satya: could you indicate the menu/path thru which you got to this link? thanks, srinivasan. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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Hi, Just curious, Does boss source is open?... i mean , is the source code is available in any hosted repos?. if so, can any one point me the url. Last year there was a discussion on the seeking source of boss at ilug-delhi. read more: http://www.mail-archive.com/il...@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg25368.html. Is the source code is open and available? any pointers on the url is appreciated. regards, Thyagarajan Shanmugham. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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2010/8/16 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com Hi, Just curious, Does boss source is open?... i mean , is the source code is available in any hosted repos?. if so, can any one point me the url. Last year there was a discussion on the seeking source of boss at ilug-delhi. read more: http://www.mail-archive.com/il...@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg25368.html. Is the source code is open and available? any pointers on the url is appreciated. please visit : http://bosslinux.in/downloads and the links therein for different versions, e.g., http://packages.bosslinux.in/boss/pool/tejas/ -- for Tejas version http://packages.bosslinux.in/boss/pool/tejas/main/ -- will lead to the index of packages and from thereon to individual package source related files. thanks and best wishes Srinivasan CDAC Chennai. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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Hi, Thanks Shrinivasan Soundarajan, Can any one tell me how to find the repo source tree in boss and its build scripts in it . How to download this distro and build it from scratch?.. regards, Thyagarajan Shanmugham ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] a note on BOSS
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Srinivasan Sundararajan srini...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:35 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: and this link too https://portal.otc.nic.in/ -Satya satya: could you indicate the menu/path thru which you got to this link? First i landed on this page this page http://www.mit.gov.in/content/free-and-open-source-software , by searching open source on the MIT website , then the next link in the search was http://www.mit.gov.in/content/open-technology-centre from where i tried reaching to https://portal.otc.nic.in/ -Satya ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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2010/8/16 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com: Can any one tell me how to find the repo source tree in boss and its build scripts in it . How to download this distro and build it from scratch?.. Hi Thyagarajan, As Dr Srinivasan wrote in his summary, access to source code of BOSS project was discussed during the interaction. As I understood, 1. The project derives from Debian and focusses on providing localization in Indian languages, driver support for devices used by Government departments and porting applications used by Government departments. 2. There was not much clarity or focus on having community facing initiatives in the initial years. 3. They have worked with various state and central government departments to support FOSS installations (including Army, Navy, Punjab government, Kerala government) 4. Now there is a stable team and efforts are on to share the work with wider FOSS community. The simple answer to your query is not available right now. Hope that with more interaction by BOSS team members (who are in this mailing list) and efforts towards sharing the work, these issues will be resolved soon. Best regards Ma Sivakumar கணிப்பொருள் - http://kaniporul.blogspot.com/ தமிழில் ஐலக்சி - http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc.tamil ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] a note on BOSS
Hi, The simple answer to your query is not available right now. Hope that with more interaction by BOSS team members (who are in this mailing list) and efforts towards sharing the work, these issues will be resolved soon. Sorry if I am blunt, is it means that it is not an open source software as of now?.. regards, Thyagarajan Shanmugham ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] a note on BOSS
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 16:01 +0530, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote: The simple answer to your query is not available right now. Hope that with more interaction by BOSS team members (who are in this mailing list) and efforts towards sharing the work, these issues will be resolved soon. Sorry if I am blunt, is it means that it is not an open source software as of now?.. depends on your definition of open source. Source code is available somewhere or the other. Although I am not sure if all the Indian language stuff is open sourced. In terms of methodology and community involvement, it has not yet succeeded in following the open source model. But they are trying ... -- regards KG http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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Hi, depends on your definition of open source. - The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). - The freedom to study how the program works, and change it to make it do what you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. - The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2). - The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this. I am talking my definition of open source with respect to freedom 1 which the free and open source freedoms promises. regards, Thyagarajan Shanmugham ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.comwrote: and this link too https://portal.otc.nic.in/ First i landed on this page this page http://www.mit.gov.in/content/free-and-open-source-software , by searching open source on the MIT website , then the next link in the search was http://www.mit.gov.in/content/open-technology-centre from where i tried reaching to https://portal.otc.nic.in/ the portal link has changed. i think the (original / changed) link was being accessible within the nic. anyway, the otc/nic guy i spoke to said he will update the details in the mit page. regards srinivasan. ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] a note on BOSS
2010/8/16 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com: - The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). - The freedom to study how the program works, and change it to make it do what you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. - The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2). - The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this. I am talking my definition of open source with respect to freedom 1 which the free and open source freedoms promises. As pointed out by KG, the sources are available (not restricted by any licence). Where they are available? To whom they are available? should be answered and facilitated. The facts are: 1. There is a BOSS team in CDAC. 2. The team is working on FOSS 3. Government of India is funding the efforts Now, how best to get these efforts to the larger community? Helping those who take the initiative is the way. Best regards, மா சிவகுமார் கணிப்பொருள் - http://kaniporul.blogspot.com/ தமிழில் ஐலக்சி - http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc.tamil ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Ma Sivakumar masivaku...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/16 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com: - The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). - The freedom to study how the program works, and change it to make it do what you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. - The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor (freedom 2). - The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a precondition for this. I am talking my definition of open source with respect to freedom 1 which the free and open source freedoms promises. As pointed out by KG, the sources are available (not restricted by any licence). Where they are available? To whom they are available? should be answered and facilitated. The facts are: 1. There is a BOSS team in CDAC. 2. The team is working on FOSS 3. Government of India is funding the efforts Now, how best to get these efforts to the larger community? Helping those who take the initiative is the way. Best regards, மா சிவகுமார் கணிப்பொருள் - http://kaniporul.blogspot.com/ தமிழில் ஐலக்சி - http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc.tamil ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc As pointed out by KG, the sources are available (not restricted by any licence). Where they are available? The source for all the distributions of BOSS is available at packages.bosslinux.in/boss. To whom they are available? The source is available for everyone, anyone can download it from there. As of now , we dont have a mechanism for people to contribute. But we are working on it and soon a mechanism will be put up where people will be able to contribute. -- *regards, T.SANGEETHA* ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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Hi, The source is available for everyone, anyone can download it from there. As of now , we dont have a mechanism for people to contribute. But we are working on it and soon a mechanism will be put up where people will be able to contribute. Kindly enlighten me how to download boss code and compile it from scratch then!!. regards, Thyagarajan shanmugham ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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2010/8/16 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com: As of now , we dont have a mechanism for people to contribute. But we are working on it and soon a mechanism will be put up where people will be able to contribute. Kindly enlighten me how to download boss code and compile it from scratch then!!. That can be an exercise for a student in LUG. I see source directory and a lot of code in the link given. The How To can be contributed to the BOSS project for others to use. Ma Sivakumar கணிப்பொருள் - http://kaniporul.blogspot.com/ தமிழில் ஐலக்சி - http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc.tamil ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Ma Sivakumar masivaku...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/16 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com: As of now , we dont have a mechanism for people to contribute. But we are working on it and soon a mechanism will be put up where people will be able to contribute. Kindly enlighten me how to download boss code and compile it from scratch then!!. That can be an exercise for a student in LUG. I see source directory and a lot of code in the link given. Would be happy to know from the relevant authorities that ,is downloading and building it from sources is possible or NOT. As i learn from shiva's reply , that it is not possible to build it from sources, as of now. However, would be glad to get the official version. regards, Thyagarajan Shanmugham ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 17:15 +0530, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote: Would be happy to know from the relevant authorities that ,is downloading and building it from sources is possible or NOT. As i learn from shiva's reply , that it is not possible to build it from sources, as of now. However, would be glad to get the official version. Hi, Thyagarajan, Why not try emailing the BOSS team or, at the least, asking on the BOSS Linux forums http://forums.bosslinux.in/. It is meaningless to ask the relevant authorities to contact you. They may not even be aware that you are asking unless you contact them yourself. Regards, -- Roshan George ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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2010/8/16 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com Kindly enlighten me how to download boss code and compile it from scratch then!!. Hi Thyagarajan, BOSS is not an application to compile it from source/scratch. BOSS is an operating system, it has a kernel, applications like pidgin/open office/vlc etc. What i believe BOSS guys are doing is, packaging these applications and releasing it as an operating system. If you want to see the source code of vlc and compile it from scratch/source you can very well do it from the resources available at http://packages.bosslinux.in/boss/pool/savir/main/v/vlc/ What BOSS folks don't have is a public account,package,build,update system where people can contribute. In Fedora we have these infrastructure installed and ready for people's contribution. I hope BOSS folks build this infrastructure soon to enable community contribution. -- Arun S.A.G ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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Hi, Why not try emailing the BOSS team or, at the least, asking on the BOSS Linux forums http://forums.bosslinux.in/. It is meaningless to ask the relevant authorities to contact you. They may not even be aware that you are asking unless you contact them yourself. Sure, you point is well received and noted. The same question was discussed on ilug delhi mailing list, whose url i have provided earlier. There were couple of mails on boss , just thought to get my queries clarified nothing more :). regards, Thyagarajan Shanmugham ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Srinivasan Sundararajan srini...@gmail.com wrote: As part of NRCFOSS project CDAC Chennai had brought out Bharat Operating System Solutions (BOSS),-- BOSS GNU/Linux -- derived from Debian with some add on packages such as Bulk Document Converter, Presentation Tool, apart from a suitable version of grub installer. Thanks for the note, would it be possible for you to provide the specific URLs to the source code for the above 3 items - the Bulk Document Converter, Presentation Tool and, the grub ? -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog/ ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
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On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Arun SAG saga...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/8/16 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் citizenof...@gmail.com Kindly enlighten me how to download boss code and compile it from scratch then!!. Hi Thyagarajan, BOSS is not an application to compile it from source/scratch. BOSS is an operating system, it has a kernel, applications like pidgin/open office/vlc etc. What i believe BOSS guys are doing is, packaging these applications and releasing it as an operating system. If you want to see the source code of vlc and compile it from scratch/source you can very well do it from the resources available at http://packages.bosslinux.in/boss/pool/savir/main/v/vlc/ What BOSS folks don't have is a public account,package,build,update system where people can contribute. In Fedora we have these infrastructure installed and ready for people's contribution. I hope BOSS folks build this infrastructure soon to enable community contribution. thank you arun for putting things in perspective. let me also use this msg to comment on roshan's response to thyagu: since some of us from boss team are in the ILUGC list, and this thread has been started by me as part of our interaction/community building exercise, thyagu has reason to expect that the response to his query could come thru this channel. regards, srinivasan. cdac chennai ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
Re: [Ilugc] a note on BOSS
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 17:39 +0530, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote: Hi, Sure, you point is well received and noted. The same question was discussed on ilug delhi mailing list, whose url i have provided earlier. There were couple of mails on boss , just thought to get my queries clarified nothing more :). Oh absolutely. In fact, another email reveals that people working on BOSS are actually present on this list. That renders what I said pointless. Best to safely ignore. Cheers, -- Roshan George ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc
