[ilugd] [X-post] Server rack and UPS available
Hello, A friend of mine is selling some equipment as his company is shutting down Delhi office. This is what is available: - APC UPS 3kVA - Server rack 19 36U The date of purchase of the equipment is August 2011. Anyone who is interested, please contact Alex Etra directly at [alex dot etra at gmail dot com]. Thanks, -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] replicating mail queue
On 21 February 2013 11:29, Goutam Baul goutam.b...@rp-sg.in wrote: Dear List, We are running postfix-2.3.3-2 on RHEL 5.4 (32bit). The reason for running such an old version is the non-availability of the currently used security suite on newer version of OS and this issues are likely to be addressed within a couple of weeks. Our system is handling mails of big sizes and the queue size rises regularly up to 40GB. We need to find a good mechanism for replicating this queue to our disaster recovery site connected with 10Gbps OFC. Can anyone kindly point us to some good solution? We are open to commercial products as well. Hi Goutam, Don't know if you have heard of DRBD: http://www.drbd.org/? Since you are using FC, then it can create block level replication (network RAID as it is often called) over the network. Though I don't know the internals of Postfix, you will have to see whether this fits your solution. HTH -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Critical System state: when only bash utilities work.
On 2 February 2013 20:49, Amar Akshat amar.aks...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Other day I was writing a small pro-active system monitoring script in Ruby, and I forgot to close my IO pipe for pgrep command, every time I checked my system status. So after a day, there were more than 32,000 zombie pgrep processes. I could only run bash commands and nothing else. I could only find out number of processes due to bash-completion in /proc/ directory. So I had to reboot my system. However my concern is, in a case like this, is there a way we could, find, kill the processes by just using bash utilities.? I tried Googling it, and found a couple of answers, but I am sure you would have run into such situations before. Hi Akshat, in such situations, I generally recommend using pkill (perhaps with -9), and _patience_ to kill all the instances of that particular process. It may not get triggered instantaneously but definitely does the job. You might want to keep doing it until you have killed the source which is forking every second. 'ps aux | grep ' also comes in handy, but again takes some time, but gives you a sense of how many processes are left to kill. I have faced similar situations as these, where I have managed without a reboot. The thing which you would want to keep in mind is if there are other users using the process, make sure you are not killing those, and watch out for the critical ones (for example ssh, network etc. services). -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Critical System state: when only bash utilities work.
On 2 February 2013 21:54, Amar Akshat amar.aks...@gmail.com wrote: Chirag, I understand your point of pkill, but I don't think you got my question. Basically, my system runs into a state, where all you can run are the bash commands, like echo, cat etc. Any system command like ps won't execute, perhaps because the system can't find resources to execute them and it will exit saying : cannot fork(); Ah okay. Only bash built-in commands I haven't used for this purpose, in fact I did not even think of them as such at that time. Well 'kill' itself is a built-in command, but it requires a pid or jobspec, which I don't think you will be able to get at that time. On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Chirag Anand anand.chi...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 February 2013 20:49, Amar Akshat amar.aks...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Other day I was writing a small pro-active system monitoring script in Ruby, and I forgot to close my IO pipe for pgrep command, every time I checked my system status. So after a day, there were more than 32,000 zombie pgrep processes. I could only run bash commands and nothing else. I could only find out number of processes due to bash-completion in /proc/ directory. So I had to reboot my system. However my concern is, in a case like this, is there a way we could, find, kill the processes by just using bash utilities.? I tried Googling it, and found a couple of answers, but I am sure you would have run into such situations before. Hi Akshat, in such situations, I generally recommend using pkill (perhaps with -9), and _patience_ to kill all the instances of that particular process. It may not get triggered instantaneously but definitely does the job. You might want to keep doing it until you have killed the source which is forking every second. 'ps aux | grep ' also comes in handy, but again takes some time, but gives you a sense of how many processes are left to kill. I have faced similar situations as these, where I have managed without a reboot. The thing which you would want to keep in mind is if there are other users using the process, make sure you are not killing those, and watch out for the critical ones (for example ssh, network etc. services). -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in -- Thank you... Amar Akshat (アマール) Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if both are frozen. -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] need linux command
Try using 'sed'. On 28 January 2013 16:13, Cool G hkco...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I need a linux command to add a new line (at line number 4 in a txt file) and save it using command prompt. Pls. help Any help is appreciated. Thanks. hk ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??
On 25 January 2013 12:58, Saurabh Jain saurabh.j...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. The same way they are thinking of getting rid of boxed processors, instead the processor will be a part of the motherboard when shipped. But that I thought was only killing the hobbyist, can't see any direct impact on Linux or a relation to MS. I've been working with on-board processors from VIA and Intel for a decade now, on platforms like Mini-ITX, and I can't say how good an idea they are. Other than PC boards, there is no other electronics platform I know of, where the central processor goes in and out of a socket. And a socket with 500+ pins. Its ridiculous. And the environmental impact of this is tremendous. Moving to BGA saves material and energy. And, I mean, who does these weird combinations of board and processor anyway? Well still there are people who do that. Like I said, its more of a hobby thing, and perhaps only stuck with school/college kids more than anyone else who like to experiment around. Rather than upgrade the processor, you should get a new system. And no, the old board+processor does not end up in a landfill. It will live on in the second hand market. On the other hand, if you upgraded just the processor, then the old processor would end up in the trash most of the time. The second hand market will soon die after a couple of years after this gets implemented. When a processor is soldered well enough on to the board, the complete system is highly reliable and will live on for more than a decade. My family's first PC was purchased in '85, and we actually sold it in '99 to someone. Yes, sold it, not gave it away. It worked very reliably, and everyone we knew, knew that it works. That's because the 808x chip it used, was securely plastered on the motherboard, not dangling from some pressure connector. I agree with you but my concerns lie with the whole market involved here. If you think about the impact this technology would have on other motherboard manufacturing businesses, they would have to find other means to sustain themselves in some way. Not saying that it should not be done in the first place, but it's a decent enough criteria for some companies to shutdown. IMO, in some way, it is also anti-competitive, since Intel occupies more than half of the pie of the current microprocessor market share, and then it would try to capture the motherboard segment as well. -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??
On 25 January 2013 14:53, Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote: My comments below: [..] the king is dead... Long live The King... that's the saying I remember when I hear stuff like death of second hand market... I think I was misunderstood. What I meant was the second hand market for processors, and motherboards separately. And I make this assertion taking into consideration that when there is no manufacturing of the product, then it will soon (few years) die out in any market. Personally I agree with the concerns-- but I strongly believe that if Intel and Microsoft cannot live up to the challenge... someone else will come in and take their place. We haven't seen any competitor for these guys lately, but yeah I would want that too. [..] -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [LUG@IITD:16810] test driving fossacademy.org
A few bug reports I have reported on the GitHub page. Checking out the code, see if I can actually fix them. Apart from that, it's a great initiative I must say. I should put up some courses soon (based on some mails) which I have sent to people on some otherwise not-so-great topics, but yeah something to start with I guess. On 23 January 2013 03:14, satyaakam goswami satyaa...@gmail.com wrote: ok looks like its pretty much it , after going in loops from Khan Academy code to Canvas then settling down with p2pu.org code , this fork is still buggy i want people to pound it , especially people who are interested in teaching on mailing lists :-) -Satya fossevents.in ps: still i do not know what the anecdotal experts or other say about it , i am pretty sure its work in progress brickbats and bouquets welcome -- Mailing list guidelines and other related articles: http://lug-iitd.org/Footer -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??
On 25 January 2013 15:20, Saurabh Jain saurabh.j...@gmail.com wrote: The second hand market will soon die after a couple of years after this gets implemented. The second hand market does not work on upgrading the processor or any other parts. It works on sustenance. You can very easily do BGA level desoldering and repair. These guys have chip level repairing guys and machinery, and they keep replacing failed components like NB, SB or CPU. The chips themselves are procured from recycled boards. A removable socket allows user-level upgradation of the processor, which is not a huge market for second hand computers. The real big market is rental companies, BPOs, schools and other large consumers who can afford in house tech guys. I agree with you but my concerns lie with the whole market involved here. If you think about the impact this technology would have on other motherboard manufacturing businesses, they would have to find other means to sustain themselves in some way. Not saying that it should not be done in the first place, but it's a decent enough criteria for some companies to shutdown. Intel makes the processors and chipsets, does not mean it wants to make the boards too. A number of components are monopolised. Tyco monopolises certain connectors, Molex does for others. LCD panels are tightly controlled in a similar manner, and so are HDDs (I think all the HDD companies own each others' shares or something crazy like that). None of these guys want to do the assembly and full solution. Intel too is happy making just chips - as I said in my first email, it announced this week that it is in fact quitting the desktop board business. It's all about partner enablement - a euphemism for you do the dirty work while we create the cool technology. Google does the same thing with its Nexus range - it lets others do teh manufacturing and logistics. Okay yeah, this sounds fine. As long as they don't eat up smaller firms, no issues at all. IMO, in some way, it is also anti-competitive, since Intel occupies more than half of the pie of the current microprocessor market share, and then it would try to capture the motherboard segment as well. It didn't for the longest time. Then it entered, in order to set a standard in the channel business. Channel (assembled) is big in Asia. Now the Taiwan guys like Gigabyte and BioStar have caught up pretty good, and they no longer need to keep doing this low margin board business. All public technology companies strive to increase their market share. They don't want to do the grunt work like PCBA, that doesn't do good to their stock price. We haven't seen any competitor for these guys lately, but yeah I would want that too. Dude, check out Mary Meeker's report for 2012. Android sales surpassed Windows sales long back. Every day, more Android devices are sold than all of the Microsoft OSs put together. And Apple is a distant third. The paradigm of computing has changed. The PC is no longer the only manifestation of a computer. Anything with a decent OS is a computer, whether it is your laptop or your tablet/phone. After all, all you need to do is use your browser. Of course, this means Linux won the desktop war already. Linux the kernel. Gnome or KDE may have lost out to Android on the Window Manager front, but the kernel is the same. If you throw in all those modems and 3G routers, the Linux kernel outsells everything else put together. Tizen is coming up as a decent competitors, Firefox OS just debuted. On the OS (kernel) front Linux won the war years ago. It won the war on servers (cloud computing users favour Linux many times more than Windows). It won the war on phones. It won the war on embedded devices. It lost the war on PCs, and PCs are now dying. But let me not say that out loud, because, somehow you still want to buy desktop boards :p Guess the love and affection for a particular technology never fades. :) -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??
On 25 January 2013 12:21, Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Sudhir Gandotra sud...@openlx.com wrote: Hello, Yesterday I found that Intel is not making any motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop. The vendor made me talk to an Intel guy on conference, who said Intel makes Server boards that support Linux, since Linux is largely used on servers only. They do have many boards that supports widows. Sounds strange. Is it that m$ has bought over Intel or is it some kind of market-manipulation tie-up going on there ? Will be good to know, if anyone has more information. In such situation, are there boards by other makers that support Linux on Desktop or does one have the only option of shifting over to AMD ? it's a interesting development-- and lets see how this plays out. I personally dont think this has anything to do with MS-- just Intel's own strategic plans... Agreed. The same way they are thinking of getting rid of boxed processors, instead the processor will be a part of the motherboard when shipped. But that I thought was only killing the hobbyist, can't see any direct impact on Linux or a relation to MS. Like they say atishoo, atishoo, atishoo and we all fall down... Wonder if MS will fall and take everyone else also down with it... (except Linux and except Google ofcourse!!! ) Well, with the introduction of usage of UEFI secure boot in Windows 8, and perhaps some more evil plans of MS in future, it might actually affect everyone in the long run. I had the (ugly) opportunity to help a person with a secure boot book to install Ubuntu on it, and trust me, it didn't feel good. -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Disk Failure in LVM
On 22 January 2013 14:36, Vivek Puri vpuri.social+il...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In a LVM implementation on RAID 0 disks, if a disk fails and new disk is put in place of the failed disk, do we have a method of restoring data on the failed disk? Not in case of RAID 0 . True. Anand, you may want to check if it is RAID 1 (mirroring) instead of RAID 0, only then you will be able to restore the data. -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Access to DNS for linux-delhi.org
On 26 December 2012 17:29, kamakshaiah m kamakshaia...@gmail.com wrote: Dear colleagues, I need certain R language experts in India, for a conference as resource persons! if anybody aware, please let me know! Hi Kamakshaiah, This is not the right thread for this discussion, please open a new thread for it. You may want to try posting your query on R-help mailing list: r-h...@r-project.org. Plus, it would be nice if you have clear description of what exactly you want from the person. If it's a paid task, please write [COMMERCIAL] in the subject line. Please read: http://wiki.linux-delhi.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/MailingListGuidelines for mailing list guidelines. Thanks. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: On 18 December 2012 18:35, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: On 18 December 2012 18:20, Gora Mohanty g...@mimirtech.com wrote: Hi, Would anyone who has access to DNS for linux-delhi.org please get in touch off-list with mancom (copied on this message). We would like to put up a tribute to Raj Mathur. Thanks. Sorry, forgot to mention. The nameservers are, in order, kandalaya.org, ns2.deldsl.net, schizoid.in, and ns1.deldsl.net Anyone with access to the first two please contact mancom. OK, we seem to be able to access the second, and third, nameservers on the above list. but not kandalaya.org. My guess is that resolving this will take some time, so the other option is to set up a temporary HTTP redirect to a tribute page to Raj. So, would anyone with access to the web back-end please drop a line to mancom? Regards, Gora ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Thanks Regards --- Kamakshaiah Musunuru http://kamakshaiah.tk www.ijrem.in +91-9561723634 (Pune) +91-9177573730 (AP) ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] [x-post] [COMMERCIAL] Need a developer/administrator for RePEc
Hello, RePEc is an online database for journals, people, articles, books related to economics which is run by Thomas Krichel (marked on the mail). It is one of the top online databases in this field[1]. RePEc needs a developer who can work on administration and development of this huge database, which involves a considerable challenge. Requirements are as follows: - Linux - Perl - Ruby/Python (optional) - Shell - Linux system administration - SQL databases - Motivation and eagerness to learn new things - +1 for some open source development As this is a collaborative project, you will be working at NIPFP (http://www.nipfp.org.in) office. Please reply to us in personal if you think this project interests you and you would want to get involved or if you want more details about the job. Thanks. [1] http://scholar.google.co.in/citations?view_op=top_venueshl=en -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] motherborad
On Sep 22 13:03, vivek kumar wrote: I am not understand plz verfy On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Vikas Rawal vikasli...@agrarianresearch.org wrote: this mother not boot with centos 5.6 and 6.0. please help how to slove the problem. I would be helpful if you have some error messages to show to us, otherwise it becomes difficult to understand the reason for it. oops. English language on this sub-continent is doomed. I don't know why but I was able to understand what he is trying to say, and that solves the purpose. -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] motherborad
On Sep 22 14:15, Ravi Kumar wrote: Yes, you are right.. As long as message gives hint, one can ask for more info whatever is required to help him. Pointing out the mistakes in language and seeking communication perfection should not be utmost interest here. But I think, that remarks was just for fun. Yes I hope too. :) -- Chirag Anand http://atvariance.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Segmentation fault error - cannt understand why?
On Jan 18 04:28PM, abhishek jain wrote: hi friends, I have suddenly started getting this error, when i run my java code Jan 16 09:02:51 hostname kernel: java[30397]: segfault at fff8 rip 2b53290f rsp error 6 and my code stops. dont know why, also i have a feeling this error started after i updated my server via yum. Not a java guy myself, but I think you should give some more details about the problem for anyone to be able to help you. No one would be able to help you with this much detail. Try explaining, what you were doing when this happened, and for what purposes you are using the server etc. -- Regards Chirag Anand Blog: http://techfreaks4u.com/blog/?author=16 anything weird is worth a try... ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] skype problem ubuntu 10.10
On Jan 04 04:48PM, vivek kumar wrote: Dear All I have install in skype ubuntu 10.10 but show the error qt4-qtconfig E: Package 'libqt4-dbus' has no installation candidate E: Package 'libqt4-gui' has no installation candidate E: Package 'libqt4-network' has no installation candidate E: Package 'libqt4-xml' has no installation candidate Try using the skype static version. -- Regards Chirag Anand Blog: http://techfreaks4u.com/blog/?author=16 anything weird is worth a try... ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Idea about linux
On Jan 02 12:19PM, Aman Thakur wrote: Bro Narendra, ithink he want to conference over the internet:) Thats why he suggested facebook but yes meetups are always preferred over internet becoz you can explain more vocally rather than textually:) I think it might be a little difficult for him to come to different places for meet-ups. I think we should also take that into consideration for people who want to get involved. :) I think conducting a webinar or live video feed or something like that for every meet-up would do. I know it is difficult but whenever this is economically/technically feasible, it would benefit many people who cannot be there. By technical I mean, if we have the resources. Ayush, look at LFS (Linux From Scratch), you will get an idea on what things are and how things are done in a Linux system. Then you can proceed from there, post any ideas here which you might have and everyone here can help you proceed with that. -- Regards Chirag Anand Blog: http://techfreaks4u.com/blog/?author=16 anything weird is worth a try... ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Buying a New Dell Laptop Without Windows
I bought a Dell two years back with FreeDOS from Nehru Place showroom only. I don't know if they still sell those systems there, but you can surely contact them via their website to enquire about this. I had also called them up at their Bangalore office and they had agreed to send me a FreeDOS system from there, after I pay them with a credit card, which I did not have at that time, so I just went to Nehru Place. Hope that helps. -- Regards Chirag Anand Blog: http://techfreaks4u.com/blog/?author=16 anything weird is worth a try... ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] How bios detects hard drive
On Dec 22 10:43PM, Rajveer Singh wrote: Hello Guys, I've a confusion related to hard drive detection process by system BIOS. This question may sound strange to some of you but I'll appreciate if I can get any link or lead to explore it further. As all of us know, to detect hardrive, we must need a suitable driver for hard disk in kernel. When we buy a new hard drive, if it's driver is not in the kernel, it doesn't detect but system BIOS can read it's MBR. So I'm just wondering, What machenism or techniques are used by BIOS so it doesn't require any additional drivers to detect hard drives. Talking about programming, the BIOS first reads the 1 sector of any hard disk by a BIOS interrupt 0x80 and tries to locate the byte 0xAA55 at the 512th byte, which confirms that the starting 512 bytes are bootable code. So, if your hard disk is detected inside the BIOS, I think it will be able to do the above procedure. After the kernel is loaded, the generic drivers for IDE/SATA etc. should do the needful. According to me, there is no need for drivers at the BIOS level, they are only required while/after the kernel is loaded. -- Regards Chirag Anand Blog: http://techfreaks4u.com/blog/?author=16 anything weird is worth a try... ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] ubuntu not supporting to HP laptop - Pavilion dv2700
You might wanna see if the ext4 module is loaded or not. Though it could also be partition#1 not ending in partition boundary as Aman suggested. But I think it shouldn't boot only if there is something wrong with partition#1. Not sure, but you should follow Aman's instructions and see if it fixes the issue. -- Regards Chirag Anand Blog: http://techfreaks4u.com/blog/?author=16 anything weird is worth a try... ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Script to run at login but for non-root users only
You can use the local versions .profile and .bashrc in the user's $HOME which won't affect the whole system. On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Amit Sharma amit_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I want to run a script as soon as a non-root users logs in. For that if I make a entry in /etc/proile then it runs for root also. I also tried it in /etc/bashrc but still it runs for root user as well. I do not want to make individual entry in all user's home directory in .bash_profile as the numbers of users is about 100. Please help. regards, Amit ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- Regards Chirag Anand Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog anything weird is worth a try... ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] books for linux?
On Monday 22 Feb 2010 22:41:20 das kumar wrote: can anyone suggest me best book for learning Linux from basics I would say, just start to use it and be curious about finding out more and more things about it hands on. And then you always have 'man' and 'info' commands to help you, there is google, mailing lists like this one, IRC channels and many more ways to get help. According to me, keep books as a reference when you don't understand anything, otherwise practical approach works best. Good Luck! -- Regards Chirag Anand Blog: http://www.techfreaks4u.com/blog anything weird is worth a try... ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] kernel Programming
On Friday 23 October 2009 21:27:47 Pranith Kumar wrote: Hello All, I just wanted to know if there are any kernel developers in our community. It would be nice to have some interactions and discussions if possible. Any other person interested to start is also welcome to reply :) Regards, Well, I have done some Linux kernel programming when I was working for Glendix for some time. I was trying to add another system call to the existing Linux kernel to help run the user space programs of Plan9 operating system. If you are interested in kernel programming, just dig into the code, see what all is happening, plan what you want to do/change and make a patch for it. For example, you want to make another system call, read the kernel docs where the system calls code resides, how they work and how can you change them etc. There is a lot of community support in Linux kernel especially on newsgroups and IRC. And of course, we all are here, in case you need some help (hopefully we'll be able to help you). :) -- Regards Chirag Anand Junior Systems Architect E2E Networks | http://www.e2enetworks.com chirag.an...@e2enetworks.com Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Capacity Planning and Reporting
On Monday 19 October 2009 11:27:04 saurabh vadhera wrote: Iam looking to some open souce replacement of sitescope etc . Requirement is to generate the capacity reports (CPU Load avg and Memory as well some application servies) in tabular and graphical format You can gather the statistics (using 'top' in batch mode), parse them using perl or any other scripting language, send them over the network using SNMP (simple network management protocol) and make graphs using MRTG for the same. Hope that helps... ;) -- Regards Chirag Anand Junior Systems Architect E2E Networks | http://www.e2enetworks.com chirag.an...@e2enetworks.com Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Sometimes, I just wonder that why these topics get way more replies than topics where people need some help. Why don't we just ignore the post and carry on? People who want to join his network are free to do so and people who don't, just ignore it... -- Regards Chirag Anand ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Because... http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg19797.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/msg19797.html I guess, then we can do away with just giving this link to anyone who spams (posts an invite to any social networking site or any other such site) the mailing list and not waste our time doing the whole discussion again. However, people congregating around such threads is not necessarily bad-- since it helps even people who dont have much technical to say- to come out of lurker mode-- and connect/communicate with other members. And IMHO that's better than randomly adding folks over linkedin... isnt it ? I think there are better ways to get out of lurker mode. Think of asking some questions, introduce yourself to the list, tell them what you are doing, why did you join the list and the like... -- Regards Chirag Anand ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the kind suggestions Chirag-- but I am not really a lurker-- am referring to a lot of others-- who'd come out of lurker mode only when a hot OT topic is discussed. Anyways... good idea to send link to people who spam... Nalin, that was not targeted at you, but in general, for the lurkers. Sorry, if I was not clear enough there. :) -- Regards Chirag Anand ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Something fishy on my server
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 6:44 PM, abhishek jain abhishek.netj...@gmail.comwrote: I found the ip was 75.101.221.99 and the useragent was ia_archiver (+ http://www.alexa.com/site/help/webmasters; craw...@alexa.com) Can anyone suggest what to do now, have someone else faced a similar problem before, AFAIK, the Alexa crawler must be determining your website statistics like page views per day, number of visitors etc. to determine your page rank, website rank etc. Check out www.alexa.com for more information. And if you want to block robots to your website, modify your robots.txt file. I dont know the exact settings.. just search for them. -- Regards Chirag Anand Junior Systems Architect E2E Networks | http://www.e2enetworks.com chirag.an...@e2enetworks.com Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Faster way to take backup?
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Amit Sharma amit_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I would like to share the following backup script being used by me. Works Fine. Just in case some one needs it. My /home is 40 GB abd tar.gz file comes to 20 GB and takes about 1 hour 10 mins to create. My question is - Is there faster way to take the backup? Well, the incremental backup is the way to go, like everyone said. You can use rsync for that. Its quite easy. -- Regards Chirag Anand Junior Systems Architect E2E Networks | http://www.e2enetworks.com chirag.an...@e2enetworks.com Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] :Evolving talents
Hi Rajkamal, We appreciate your effort for using and promoting open source software. Even I have completed my B.Tech from Jaypee University of Information Technology, Solan, Himachal Pradesh. We have our Jaypee Linux Users Group (JLUG) in the college. And we have taken up several initiatives in promoting open source software esp. Linux in the past and are continuing to do so. You can find about the past events on our google group: http://groups.google.com/group/juit-linux-user-group as well as on our sister institute here: http://groups.google.com/group/jiitlug. We also have our blog at http://techfreaks4u.com/blog/. They might help you in planning of your events, classes etc. We will be conducting more events in the near future also and if you people can arrange to come there for the event (or vice versa), it will be great learning for both the colleges. For this, we'll need to fix some schedule and talk to both the college authorities. I can't help you with setting up of this as I'm a pass-out now. Contact me off-list, I'll give you id's of current students who can help you. We'll be happy to help you. Tell us, if you want to know anything else. :) -- Regards Chirag Anand Junior Systems Architect E2E Networks | http://www.e2enetworks.com chirag.an...@e2enetworks.com Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [HELP] How to count number of process
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Sudev Barar sba...@gmail.com wrote: I have made a script that starts netcat repeatedly in listen mode. Once incoming data is started the script fires off another NC instance and previous NC process then dies when data string ends. I want to count how many netcat processes were launched during a particular testing period. One option is to build a counter before firing up each instance of netcat. Any other method? I would not like to touch the netcat launch script right now. If this is what you're looking for: `ps -aef | grep netcat | wc -l` ? But this will give you one extra result, as `grep netcat` will also be counted as another running process. You can make necessary modifications to it and get the correct result. Hope that helps. -- Regards Chirag Anand Junior Systems Architect E2E Networks | http://www.e2enetworks.com chirag.an...@e2enetworks.com Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [HELP] How to count number of process
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Tanveer Singh w...@tanveer.in wrote: You missed his question. He does not want to know how many netcats are running, he wants to know that between time T and time T+Delta how many netcats were fired. Okay. In that case, I think your solution should do the needed. :) -- Regards Chirag Anand Junior Systems Architect E2E Networks | http://www.e2enetworks.com chirag.an...@e2enetworks.com Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Hi - Stock Market Ticker
I have to create a custom ticker for a website which shows information of stock market / MCX commodity exhcange. Where can i grab the data from which site/ XML Feed, I can code in Perl i just need to know which site I can use to fetch relaibly. I need to know the live prices and i dont want to go for pre-built ones, i need to know the live prices in my code. Many stock information sofwares use live feed from NSE server. I'm not sure how they do that, but you can surely look for it. -- Regards Chirag Anand anything weird is worth a try... Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: [fosscom] NCERT Operating System
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Shakthi Kannan shakthim...@gmail.comwrote: The NCERT operating system is collaborative effort of IIT Delhi and NCERT and is envisioned to be a collection of all relevant Free and Open Source software that is needed for a school student to follow the school curriculum, without the need to pay for expensive proprietary and poor quality software. It includes a Free/Open Source operating System and all additional educational open source software. This is really a great news. As it will also help in spreading the open source spirit and make students learn about the latest technologies which exist outside of their curriculum. Is it some form of a Linux distribution or an OS built totally from scratch? As it contains free and open source software. And can we actually contribute to it's development, which I would love to do? Any more details about it or any download link will be appreciated. In fact, how much time will it take to reach school curriculum, so that we can help them in it's learning. Man, I'm really curious about this. :D -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Undelete in Linux
Hey Gajendra Thanks a lot for the information and the link. It is not packaged with openSuse, thats why I did not know about it... now I do. :) -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Undelete in Linux
Hey Mani This looks great. But can you please provide a download link for the binary/tarball etc? 2009/5/20 Mani A a.mani@gmail.com 'Foremost' works in all *nixes #man foremost FOREMOST(1) FOREMOST(1) NAME foremost - Recover files using their headers, footers, and data struc‐ tures SYNOPSIS foremost [-h][-V][-d][-vqwQT][-bblock‐ size][-odir][-ttype][-snum][-ifile] BUILTIN FORMATS Recover files from a disk image based on file types specified by the user using the -t switch. jpgSupport for the JFIF and Exif formats including implementations used in modern digital cameras. gif png bmpSupport for windows bmp format. avi exeSupport for Windows PE binaries, will extract DLL and EXE files along with their compile times. mpgSupport for most MPEG files (must begin with 0x01BA) SNIP DESCRIPTION Recover files from a disk image based on headers and footers specified by the user. -h Show a help screen and exit. -V Show copyright information and exit. -d Turn on indirect block detection, this works well for Unix file systems. -T Time stamp the output directory so you don’t have to delete the output dir when running multiple times. SNIP Best A. Mani -- A. Mani ASL, CLC, AMS, CMS http://amani.topcities.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Open Source Powers TATA Nano Website
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:55 AM, Smruti smrutiman...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Dhiraj Gaur dhiraj.g...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Friends Another great achievement of open source. That's great news...but why does it keep crashing. I have seen the website up and down at least 5 times this evening only. High traffic? Theres a lot of hype associated with the car. But its a great achievement (the car as well as the site). :) -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [x-post][OT]? Response to Misleading News Article - Netbook Security
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Anupam Jain ajn...@gmail.com wrote: Let me play the devils advocate here. Why do we care about this magazine article? Simply because it doesn't acknowledge GNU/Linux? The fact remains that windows machines without antivirus' and firewalls ARE insecure and that's all the article states. Granted, the article has zero research behind it and entitles the reader to a rant about the steady decline of quality in journalism but why are we venting it out on a Linux mailing list? I think, this is the best place to discuss these things. And being a loyal user of Open Source software and as well as Linux, I think it is our duty to spread the knowledge we have and let it not confine it to ourselves only...after all, its all about freedom. ;) -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] FOSS seminar
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote: it seems to me punjab and himachal-pradesh have some of the lowest adoption of foss in academia. am glad your effort would hopefully move things there. in case you ever need my support, just contact me offline or via a direct email since i tend to travel through punjab and h.p once in a while. regards niyam Hey Niyam, I think you are right, but we (Jaypee LUG) are trying to promote the culture here also We have seen a considerable increase in the usage of Linux and OSS in our college, at least. We have planned and conducted events in the past and are planning a few events for this month also. We would highly appreciate, if you could come here for some talk or something. Though the things are not finalised, some planning is left. I will tell you as soon as a draft is prepared. In fact everyone who is interested in coming to Solan (H.P.), in this beautiful weather is invited. ;) -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [X-Post] Hall of Shame: MTNL TrustLine
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:00 PM, Dinesh Shah (દિનેશ શાહ/दिनेश शाह) dines...@gmail.com wrote: Please look at this page. http://selfcare.mtnl.net.in/trustline/ http://selfcare.mtnl.net.in/trustline/Class2IndvProcedures.htm They should be put on Hall of Shame for their platform/browser requirement. http://dineshah.wordpress.com/Blog-2 Well, you can use konquerer's browser identification feature and change it to IE. I had to do that for hathway ISP login. Though i had a fight with the installation guy over this, but i did not have any choice. And it works pretty well. :D Though they should be put in the hall of shame for demanding these kind of requirements. Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Formatted Windows partition and OpenSUSE 11.0
As mentioned by Goldwyn, the more you use the system, the possibilities will decrease. The new data will overwrite the previous data on blocks physically. The only solution that i can think of is calling the experts. They might be able to extract something from the magnetic disk. -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
Well, i searched the internet and asked my friends. After all this, i found out that acer is giving a good configuration for a lesser price. Can anyone tell me their or their friends' expirience with Acer?? And I sent a mail to DELL asking about Linux/Free DOS. So they called me up today and told me that they will give me DELL inspiron 1525 with: CPU: intel core 2 duo: 2.0 GHz Memory: 2GB @ 667MHz HDD : 160GB SATA and other regualr stuff...2MP cam, bluetooth, 6 cell battery and more details can be found here: http://www1.ap.dell.com/content/products/featuresdetails.aspx/inspnnb_1525?c=inl=ens=dhscs=indhs1~lt=popup And all this without Windows vista and MS works, they are giving Free DOS. They quoted the price at Rs. 34,802 (including some taxes, they gave me rebate on 4% VAT). But if you look at the left most configuration in the link, you will see the price at Rs. 35,900 (exclusive of taxes). So, you see, there is not much of a difference in price. I dont get it. Are windows and MS works worth this small amount only? -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
HP seem to do a fairly good series these days, dont look at their very-low end line up though. The good thing about HP is that all their laptops have options for pretty much any sort of attachment you might want or addons etc - and they dont mind third party bits in their laptops ( my hp reseller didnt anyway ). So get the basic laptop from them, buy the extra gigs of ram from elsewhere, buy the hdd upgrade from elsewhere and get a bigass travel battery! And they tend to be built quite well. And you have the option of FreeDOS. So, I guess all the reasons why people would recommend an Thinkpad a few years back... But recently most people I know in India seem to be of the opinion that quality has dropped a bit. What will happen to my warranty if in case i buy extra memory/space/battery from external vendors? Does Dell not do the windows refund though ? If Dell gives the refund, i can definitely look forward to buying it. Many of my friends are quite happy with Dell. No problem in 2yrs...and they are providing quite a good configuration at this price. I've never been a big fan of Dell laptops. The place where I worked from late 2001 to late 2004, we had a few hundred dell laptops ( the whole setup was Dell, inc workstations, servers, storage, network kit - everything ). And it was normal to have atleast 2 fail everyday ( the help desk guys used to be about 20 feet away from me ). in Oct 2004, facilities moved from Dell to Fujitsu - and failure rate fell to 1 per week. Perhaps dell quality has also improved in the last few years, but the pain from 4 years back is still quite fresh in my mind :D On my side of things - servers, storage, network - we also found Fujitsu to be a lot better for large installations, but not nearly as quick with solutions or support as Dell was. Are fujitsu laptops specifically for industry/professional use? Being a student, should i consider it? -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] high-end linux laptop?
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 9:20 PM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Chirag Anand wrote: What will happen to my warranty if in case i buy extra memory/space/battery from external vendors? you should speak with your Vendor about that before you buy it. The HP reseller I got my laptop from didnt have any problems, so the 3 yr warranty stayed in place, even though I got the laptop with 512MB of ram and then bumped it to 2 GB the next day ( bought the extra ram off www.crucial.com/uk ). Just saw the crucial website, the prices are more than what we get in nehru place in delhi. And they dont have India in their shipping countires list?? Are fujitsu laptops specifically for industry/professional use? Being a student, should i consider it? Then workout how well the laptops are built and how long the warranty is going to be. Built?? as in? for linux environment or not? -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] List of Corporates using Linux Desktops?
I could not agree with Prakhar more... :) The points he has put up, are the things that we face in our colleges everyday, we see it happening but still we cant do anything about it. Like faculty using windoz, some of them do not even know what Linux is. They are teaching students windoz softwares. They are still using the good-old DOS based turbo c++ compiler (18 yrs old). And its not that, we have not tried...we have recieved a lot of thrashing because of this. (I mean a LOT). But it takes something to change the system. We have done what was in our hands and will continue to do so in the future. But in the end, you do need to follow the college course structure. No matter, how deep you feel about FOSS or are contributing to it, you will only get testing/maintaining jobs. Its not that, we do not deserve to be in a thinking/product based job in which we are required to think and innovate and not act like burden-donkeys, but the fact that we only have these companies coming to our campuses. It is not our fault...that FOSS companies do not come on our door. Talking about off-campus jobs...everyone knows what happens there. Some 2500 people turn to give interviews for a vacancy of just 10-20. And i have seen it, written test papers are not even corrected fairly. Do you think, you can find some 10-20 deserving candidates out of 2500 in just 10 hours (max). Can you tell me, that so many FOSS companies are here on this mailing list but why you do not come to campuses?? Or why you do not take freshers (i may be wrong here), but i have seen job openings in LFY...not a single opening for freshers. Please tell me, where do we go (FOSS students) for gaining some experience? Ultimately, even if we go to companies like tcs, infy etc. we wont be getting any FOSS exposure there. Does that make me eligible for a placement in a FOSS company? Just becuase, we have been promoting FOSS/Linux in our colleges and have contributed something to FOSS and advocating and fighting for it, make us good enough for your firm? Do we even have an oppurtunity to realise our dreams? -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan JUIT-LUG (Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog) Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] List of Corporates using Linux Desktops?
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] @Chirag: Buddy, here are my 2-cents-- as someone who completed his engineering in 1999-- and has been working since-- whether with a company or running a company:--- (1) 99% companies dont hire a Windows-Guy or Mac-Guy or FOSS-guy-- they hire software engineers who can use the technologies they deal in--- 10 years back, everyone was lumped together-- but today, every IT person and company sees distinctions-- and good or great guys are able to find the work they want--- because there are always fewer great guys and more openings for great programmers. As far as demand for FOSS goes; of each and every web-development advertisement you see--- 80% companies will be using linux on the server side-- and the ability to understand and administer a server is worth a lot. As programming skills go-- the ability to work on Unix/Unix variants-- and the ability to write and understand c/c++ code is worth a lot in the market-- salary-wise atleast it is worth more than what salary a vb/c#/asp programmer will get. A lot of work done in India is low-end-- and a lot of the programmers are guys who can cobble together websites-- rather than hardcore programmers who understand a OS and it's architecture and who can use the available tools to develop the next GIMP or the next FFMPEG or the next SKYPE-- but that should not limit or control you--- if you are passionate about technology--- gain the skills and find a opening. And if you are a hardcore guy-- chances are you'd be better than 80% of our Industry right when you pass out of college--- so the onus would be on you- to find or create a niche and go conquer the world. I hope that helps... if anything else-- abt relevance of skills please ask... Thanks a lot Nalin, this definitely helped. :) -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] List of Corporates using Linux Desktops?
On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:11 AM, Nalin Savara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Chirag Anand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I could not agree with Prakhar more... :) The points he has put up, are the things that we face in our colleges everyday, we see it happening but still we cant do anything about it. Like faculty using windoz, some of them do not even know what Linux is. They are teaching students windoz softwares. They are still using the good-old DOS based turbo c++ compiler (18 yrs old). Buddy-- it's about learning to be a engineer- and a solid engineer-- the important thing is that the teachers run you through examples- and transmit their own c/c++ knowledge to you. It's not just the 18 year old compiler--- it is also the sorting algorithms (atleast 30-40 years old) and the concepts like dynamic programming, branch and bound and recursion (maybe 40+ years old). My point here was not about the basics and concepts but the fact that turbo c++ 3.0 compiler does not even include the Standard Template Library which g++ has. The point here being, that why are we using an 18 year old compiler when we can use the latest one. It's like still using the 0.01 version of Linux kernel. There must have been a need for change that we are using kernel version 2.6. I hope you get my point. If a teacher shows you awesome gadgets and interfaces-- but doesnt strengthen your basics-- he is doing you a big dis-service-- even though you may think me religion FOSS; teacher religion also FOSS. Well, i think, basics can be learnt from new gadgets/interfaces as well. And i'm not blaming the teacher for not teaching me the basics but the fact that there are many new things/technologies in the world which should also be taught to us. A teacher's job is to use the tools he knows-- to transmit maximum of his knowledge to you (his students)-- you need to respect your teachers-- even if their choices of tools differ from yours. I respect my teachers for their knowledge not for the tools they use. It is my opinion as a student that we should also be a part of the evolution... When everything is changing, why shouldn't we? You know-- it's also about whether you come accross as someone who wants to rise to the top of the ecosystem-- OR whether you are just another kid who wants something to cling on to-- and kick others around. Probably you are well-intentioned-- and you want to pursue excellence-- but just wanting is not enough-- your actions must convey that-- because actions speak louder than words. If your actions differ from your words-- and your actions highlight a basic disrespect for knowledge; a sense of indiscipline and a lack of willingness to see the big picture view--- then anyone in a position of authority will either recruit you as a foot-soldier (testing / maintainence/ non-high level opening/ unimportant promoter of commercial product) OR they will ignore you (2500 candidates for 20 seats). Well, talking about my actions, I am one of the core members of my college's LUG. Please see this link: http://techfreaks4u.com/blog/?p=615 (blog post of our install fest, held on 9th November, 2008). Our official blog is at www.techfreaks4u.com/blog and our google group link is: http://groups.google.co.in/group/juit-linux-user-group And if you saw carefully, I am one of the posters at http://groups.google.co.in/group/JIITUstudentforum/browse_thread/thread/f0f9ad1c92225156(link which Prakhar posted), even though I do not study in that college. Its a sister institute. And anything that is planned, its for both colleges simultaneously. buddy, see my comment to the point above. Remember-- that to innovate, you need to respect knowledge and display professionalism and a willingness to pursue technical excellence at all costs. I am just not able to figure out, what made you think that i'm disrespecting knowledge? companies coming to our campuses. It is not our fault...that FOSS companies do not come on our door. buddy-- see my next mail. Talking about off-campus jobs...everyone knows what happens there. Some 2500 people turn to give interviews for a vacancy of just 10-20. And i have seen it, written test papers are not even corrected fairly. Do you think, you can find some 10-20 deserving candidates out of 2500 in just 10 hours (max). This may be a good conversation topic-- but it's not a reflection of reality-- especially not if you have a skillset that puts you in the top 5% of programmers-- and practically, if you know gcc, can use unix shell scripts; recompile the kernel etc... chances are you are better equipped than most to pursue the path to the top. Please also see my next mail. Can you tell me, that so many FOSS companies are here on this mailing list but why you do not come to campuses?? Or why you do not take freshers (i may be wrong here), but i have seen job openings in LFY
Re: [ilugd] ilugd meet
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 6:46 PM, anirudh shekhawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there.. Guys when are we going have a meet of ilugd, some thing close to the Software Freedom Day meet, what you say.. If possible, please plan it in December as most of the college students will be free by that time. They will also be able to participate. I could not participate earlier also as I was not in Delhi. I'll be back in the first week of December Just a request... -- Regards Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Dell XPS M1330 And Ubuntu
Hey, One of my friends bought a Dell Inspiron a few months back and he called up dell people for the same issue. They said hardware warranty will continue but there wont be any software support after doing that. Hes now using SUSE 11.0 hassle free. Regards On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi friends, I just got a shiny new Dell XPS M1330 Laptop. I am amased to see Intrepid Ibex running on the machine flawlessly. Every piece of hardware works fine -- webcam (with Ekiga) the multimedia touch keys, bluetooth, (I connected both of my Nokia N series phones and used flawlessly), even the remote and the Bluetooth mouse worked without a glitch. Now, I did all that with the Live CD. I wanna format the HDD, get rid of Vista Permium, and install Ubuntu. My concern is will that void the warrantee? I will call up the customer care to check, but was just exited to share with you the awesome GNU/Linux support this cool machine has. We can put this machine in the list of fully Free Software compatible :-) -- Swapnil Bhartiya http://ybfree.blogspot.com/ Mobile: 09910956518 === I use Free Software, what do you use? === ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ -- Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Compiling Online With GCC
Thank you everyone for their wonderful suggestions. I think i will try and go with PC2 software which Angad has mentioned. That software is specifically build to conduct programming competitions. But i will have to convince my college techies to install that. In case that doesnt work, i'll go with Kashyap's or Navjot's script. In fact Shantanu's idea is quite interesting, i'll try to make it later , if not for this event...as my college authorities wont let me fiddle with their server much. Even Sankarshan's idea to play around wont be possible because of this. These college people like to keep it simple, they dont like to apply their brains... Regards and Thanks -- Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Compiling Online With GCC
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:36 PM, मयंक जैन (makuchaku) [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi Chirag, You can start by creating user accounts for all the participants. Then ask all students to use SCP to upload code into their accounts and use SSH to login and compile/test the code. All you'll need for this is a linux box with SSH server installed. Even windows users can participate by using WinSCP and Putty (for SSH). Lemme know if you need help with this setup - I'd be glad to help. Thanks a lot Mayank, but as i have said earlier, my college authorities are not ready to help. As its a college server, we cannot create accounts, and college people have already refused to make individual accounts . They have even refused to make one common account stating that it cannot be done. But i'm going to my HOD with this solution tomorrow. I hope he helps. Regards -- Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Compiling Online With GCC
Hi, We are hosting a programming competition in our college this weekend. We have a RHEL 4 server in our college on which we are planning to upload the code, compile the code there only and matching with the output. The problem is, that we want everyone to do all this from their rooms, from where the server is directly accessible. We dont people to go to labs and code. This will increase participation. But i am not able to find a script that does this, which can be run on the server through apache. Please help me find a solution to it... -- Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Compiling Online With GCC
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 6:35 PM, VIKAS RUHELA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, U can use php as the language for your web portal and then by using the GCC compiler u can compile the code. With php u can compile the c file with the help of GCC.But it still have there is one problem that u can't match the two outputs. Well, i dont know PHP scripting. :( Thats why i'm trying to find a working script. And yes the code checking is also important. -- Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Gaurav Mishra [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Prakhar Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I beg to differ on this. The major problem is still the installation part if you see it from a Windows User perspective. I agree with Prakhar here that a windoz user always finds it difficult to install Linux. The word scares him away. He is not ready to try/experiment on his own at least the first time. He still needs some help with this part. Problem lies in attitude of students, especially so called engineering students. Just my thought. Exactly! We have to change the attitude of students and people, to be ready to try and learn new things. And that is not an easy task. At least in our colleges, we are finding it difficult. That is where evangelism comes into playand in the beginning you have to spoon-feed them. Even though I also agree, it is always a better idea of promoting through projects. The fun part is you will never get these guys into the mainstream and in the end will only waste your effort. So better concentrate on help people who want to help themselves. If we keep thinking that, we can never achieve. Its like giving up before even trying. And i've seen people transform from 'windoz user' to 'linux geek'...that includes myself. Concentrate on projects , These words are coming from a vast experience with college students We are just trying to prepare a good platform for the students, after that we can focus on projects. We dont want to scare them away with words like 'Linux Project'. Thanks for your suggestions though. :) Any other suggestions, ideas are always welcome. :) Regards -- Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 anything weird is worth a try... ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
On 11/1/08, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the giss.tv team is doing quite an impressive job with this. meanwhile, locally, the credit goes to gora for organizing and coordinating this talk when yves took the initiative of contacting ilug-d, even in the face of almost negligible response from our ilug-d mailing list. i hope in the future we all are more enthusiastic and supportive of people who wish to share their knowledge and hacks so freely with our community. hmmm. anyone with a laptop and webcam at the next meet could be requested. chirag, i just noticed you're writing to us all the way from solan, which i believe is in himachal pradesh? thanks for writing in, and do share with us, what's the foss scene in your college and town? We have our Jaypee-LUG at college. We conduct classes for the students that includes installation, basic functionality, troubleshooting etc. We have our official blog at www.techfreaks4u.com and google group at http://groups.google.com/group/juit-linux-user-group started by our seniors. But the group suffers low activity. Main problem is that we are finding it difficult to get good response. Some 100 people turned for our orientation sessions. But eventually they reduced ~30 for the next. In fact i talked to Mr. Gora to give a talk at our college about open source/linux but the event was cancelled and it could not be continued further. The main problem is getting good response even if someone is ready to give some kinda presentation. It will not be worth to come over here and not get a good response. Well, we are planning some programming competitions, install fest and other related activities on the next weekend. As far as the town is concerned, we got a call from a local computer education institute to give a presentation on linux in shimla. But because of lack of volunteers, that could not be done. We need your suggestions to increase linux/open source popularity in our college. Though we are also trying hard for that. ;) Regards -- anything weird is worth a try... Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Kiss Your TV Goodbye. With GISS.tv
On 10/26/08, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Angad Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is great stuff. I tried it out with my home DSL connection. I
created a
channel and streamed my webcam and mic to their IceCast 2 server. It
works
like a charm! Their wiki suggests using VisionAir on Windows (
http://giss.tv/wiki/index.php/Streaming_Tools), but that is not able to
stream. I used VLC. You can ofcourse use Theory Streaming Studio on
Linux.
For someone who would want to try it out with VLC, this is the stream
output
MRL format that works (for video + audio):
:sout=#transcode{vcodec=theo,vb=128,scale=1,acodec=vorb,ab=128,channels=2}:duplicate{dst=std{access=shout,mux=ogg,dst=
source:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8000/channelname.ogg}}
This is great for people who cannot afford to host a video streaming
server
(with IceCast) of their own - since the bandwidth requirement makes that
kind of hosting costly - it's based on the giss.tv network, the concept
is
awesome.
hey Niyam its an excellent concept, i'm just loving it. I did not know that
it is working already. Though i'm yet to try it as my college internet has
some limitations, but it looks wonderful.
The technology allows so many users to connect to each other. I think the
next ilug-d meet should be broadcasted using GISS, so that people like me
who cannot attend them (being out of state) can also attend it virtually. ;)
Regards
--
anything weird is worth a try...
Chirag Anand
4th Year, B.Tech
Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan
Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog
Linux User: 476783
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Re: [ilugd] [OT] The Google Cookie Conspiracy
I agree with pradeepto that many people do not know the meaning of hacking...but i guess its not their fault, even i did not. I got to know about it after i started using linux and got to know about things like kernel hacking etc. I think it's our duty to spread the knowledge... ;) -- anything weird is worth a try... Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] The Google Cookie Conspiracy
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 12:05 AM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pradeepto has given a very nice explanation. However, in the legal scenerio, refering to Indian IT act 2000, unfortunately the term hacker or hacking is taken in the wrong sense. This is what it says: Section XI 66 : Hacking with Computer System (1) Whoever with the intent to cause or knowing that he is likely to cause wrongful loss or damage to the public or any person, destroys or deletes or alters any information residing in a computer resource or diminishes its value or utility or affects it injuriously by any means, commits hacking. (2) Whoever commits hacking shall be punished with imprisonment up to three years, or with fine which may extend up to two lakh rupees, or with both. Well, we can not change the people who write these words but we can educate them and all others by giving knowledge with the proper meanings/explanations (Like the one Pradeepto has given) Even if we accept the legal terminology, Ethical and Hacker will not go together. Most of the people on the list understand/know what Pradeepto said. -Sudhanwa ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ As fas as i know, in Open Source/Linux, the term hacking means improving and/or contributing to the applications/kernel etc. Correct me, if i'm wrong. -- anything weird is worth a try... Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department, JUIT Solan Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog Linux User: 476783 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Linux.com: Indian political party turns to FOSS
From: Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.com/feature/150549 Links not working for me...some temporary server problem i guess. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [OT] google's third founder
We all knew Sergey Brin and Larry page were the founders of google but here's a news article in which Hubert Chang, google's third founder has been named. interesting story, so thought about sharing. http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/print.php/3773836 I got nothing much to say...but i guess there is a possibility. And it happens as the guy said it, when you've got status, you tend to forget the past. Sad indeed if its true. -- anything weird is worth a try... Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department Jaypee University of Information Technology, Solan India Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Free Software Day Celebrations
Hey Guys, Saw all the celebration pics...I just regret missing it. For, I was not in Delhi and my right shoulder got dislocated...lol nd i'm writing this with great difficulty. Was curious about 1 thing, i didnt see much of college going people. Being a college student myself, i was expecting a bit more of college going crowd. The reason being that i do not know the age/profession of most of the members here. I may be wrong here. and no offence to all the elder guys..i think without your support, this linux Delhi chapter would not be happening at all. ;) Secondly, I was looking at the Barcamp website which Narendra mentioned. India has quite a lot of eveents happening at different places. It has a Delhi chapter also and its being held in the 1st week of october. But i did not understand about the event. I mean what all would be happening there...talks/install fest etc. and on which topics. Is it the same as any other FOSS event?? Regards -- anything weird is worth a try... Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department Jaypee University of Information Technology, Solan India Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Hibernation problem in Suse 11.0
Hey guys I am having problem with hibernating my system (suspend to disk). I installed suse 11 a few days back only... It was working exactly fine earlier but now in it's log file, its stating:*resume partition * *'/dev/sda6' not active. cannot suspend'.* sda6 was my old swap partition for suse 10.3 which i delelted just yesterday (on 2nd hard disk). After that only its giving problems. My new swap partition exists on the 1st hard disk as well as the root. Also, can anyone tell me if anything abot linux' hibernation filesystem..i can see it in the partitioner. Thanks -- anything weird... is worth a try... Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department Jaypee University of Information Technology, Solan India Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Hibernation problem in Suse 11.0
Check and update /etc/fstab with the hard disk partition that is your new swap. Check your /etc/fstab file if the swap partition is listed properly. There must be someway to check this in Yast too, but some suse user can help better there. Yup, seems like your system is still using the older swap. You have to edit /etc/fstab and replace the entry for the older swap with the new swap there. That should fix it. To do this from yast: Launch it, then go to System -- Partitioner. Once you have the new Partitioner window up, see if your newer swap is listed there. If yes, select that and click the Edit button. In the edit window, define the mount point as swap. Make sure you don't edit any other partition. Thanks for our help guys...but the swap is already set with the new partition...in fact i'm currently using it. Its still giving the same message. No problems with fstab. Dont know how to change from sda6?? Anyone knows where to edit it's configuration files?? Thanks -- anything weird is worth a try... Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department Jaypee University of Information Technology, Solan India Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ilugd Digest, Vol 66, Issue 11
Its still giving the same message. No problems with fstab. Dont know how to change from sda6?? The resume partition can be specified by either appending 'resume=/dev/swap_device' to kernel command line OR probably via some hack in initrd (not sure though). So, if you're using an initrd based system and want to go through , I recommend reinstalling the current kernel, which will probably rebuild the initrd image. I'm not sure, if this is the recommended way to rebuild initrd image on SuSE boxen. Anyone knows where to edit it's configuration files?? Thanks -- anything weird is worth a try... So I hope you'll try this weird suggestion ;) lol..sure..i'm thinking of making my ramdisk again (after tweaking something)..that might help. But compiling the kernel will take a loong time on my AMD 3000+, so i'll stick to the ram disk for now. But i think that resume thing in kernel command line should work because i think i've put a wrong command there...as my boot loader was also fuked the same day.. :D. So i added that line myself...lemme check and i'll tell ya.. Subject: [ilugd] Happy Birthday to GNU!! Please go through the link below : http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/happy-birthday-to-gnu.html Great video man..very inspiring also. Thanks for the link. ;) Regards -- anything weird is worth a try... Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department Jaypee University of Information Technology, Solan India Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ilugd Digest, Vol 65, Issue 34
looking at the Compaq Presario C797VU (~Rs 35K): http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/in/en/ho/WF06b/321957-321957-3329742-8 9318-89318-3466274-3739779.html Can't comment on the above model but my brother owns a 2 yr old Compaq laptop no hardware issues so far. On the Linux side, not been able to get the ATI 200M express 3D working (with binary blob). WiFi is Broadcom. Works with Ubuntu 8.04. I have AMD 3000+ with ATI radeon 200 express. Its woorking fine on open suse 10.3... I downloaded the driver from the ati site only. They gave me a file with .run extension and auomatically installs itself. But i had some trouble with configuring it. Had to set the resolutions, screen size etc myself through terminal. But now its running just fine, the compiz/xgl effetcs are also doing good except for the 2D motocross game, which on executing hangs my system. I would suggest that you aticonfig command after installing the file and configure it yourself. And also look at xorg.conf for more options, you might as well need to modify it (i did). But you are using ubuntu...so i'm not sure about that...i have not used ubuntu as for now...but i do plan to install it. Thanx! Chiky ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] ATI 200M
rant This is my main gripe with ATI. If they can write the driver for Linux, it follows they should provide GUI tools that simply work i.e. no messing around with xorg.conf via a text editor. /rant They have their GUI control panel but things hardly work the first time you are using it. You will have to fiddle with their command line as well as xorg.conf anyways. Though I have downloaded their latest driver, have not installed it as for now. Lets see what they have in store this time. Regards -- Chirag Anand 4th Year, B.Tech Computer Science Department Jaypee University of Information Technology, Solan India Blog :http://techfreaks4u.com/blog ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
