Re: [ilugd] [HUMOUR] Fwd: Funny Indian names
2012/2/11 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org: -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Funny Indian names Date: Friday 10 Feb 2012 From: Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org To: Raj Mathur r...@kandalaya.org Indian names and their meanings Atul -- studies too hard Anuj -- annoys everyone Anoop -- can't get anything done Swapnil -- keeps everything in his memory Ranjit -- uses a fast Java platform Can you think of any to add? --- Please add any geeky ones you can think of... I came up with: Sanjay -- keeps all data on fast network storage Ram -- the obvious :) Manish -- always busy consulting the documentation Ajay -- develops Java and YAML Sunil -- fails at becoming root ANU -- Anu is Not Unix I like this best, since RMS while naming the free OS he looked for a meaningful names that can be recursive acronyms and chose the first meaningful word and halted at GNU. I would have halted at ANU. ANU is not funny though! -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Searchable PDF/A files
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Anand Shankar anandshankar.em...@gmail.com wrote: Check http://alternativeto.net/software/tesseract/ Hope that helps, -- Balwinder S bdheeman Dheeman PS: I am looking for FOSS alternatives. Further, I am looking to the following solution: Image based PDF input - OCR Process - PDF output with searchable text. check out this blog. the author of the blog in cc. http://damitr.org/2011/05/10/free-software-tools-for-scanning-and-making-e-books/ -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [Off-topic]R expert
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Ashim Kapoor ashimkap...@gmail.com wrote: Dear kamakshaiah, Please feel free to contact me anytime for R help. I am not an expert but only an enthusiastic user of R. My apologies for the delay in the post. Dear Mani and Mr Rawal, I would love to be a part of an R users group in India. I am very happy to see lots of enthusiasm around R. Raj, could you create a user's group for R on your server. it seems we do have a few enthusiasts. R is popular but needs more support for new users. It is a great software with not a very good introductory support. If you people would like to have a place, a wiki, resource sharing place, metastudio.org can be used for this. I created a group here: https://metastudio.org/groups/gnu_r Please also announce the various events at the group and invite more people. There are several people interested in R in TISS and our campus. Hope we can all collaboratively create good quality resources to support its usage. -- GN http://metaStudio.org/ reShaping Education ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] What happens in BASH when you do Ctrl-C (hint, it's not simply sending a SIGINT)
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Anupam Jain ajn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I originally posted this question on stackoverflowhttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/6624622/what-happens-in-bash-when-you-do-ctrl-c-hint-its-not-simply-sending-a-sigint, but did not receive a satisfactory response. Any ideas? --8- A little background first - When I do apt-get install downloads from my company internet it provides a high burst of speed (400-500KB/s) for the first 10 seconds or so before dropping down to a tenth of that (40-50KB/s), and then after a few minutes to a truly miserable (4-5KB/s). This makes me think that the sysadmin has implemented some sort of a network throttling scheme. Now I know that the network is not simply erratic, because if I start an apt-get install foo, Ctrl-C it after 10 seconds and immediately run apt-get install foo again (by doing an up arrow and enter to use bash history), and then *keep repeating this process for a few minutes till all packages are downloaded*, I can download even large packages very fast. In particular, even after aborting a download with Ctrl-C, apt-get seems to be able to resume the download in the next invocation. Of course, staring at the screen doing Ctrl-C Up Enter every 10 seconds gets really boring real fast, so I wrote a shell script - #!/bin/sh for i in `seq 1 100` ; do sudo apt-get install foo -y sleep 10 sudo kill -2 $! done I guess the problem is because you are using apt-get, and is not suitable for scripting. use dpkg instead. that may solve your problem. -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Open Source Technology in Rural Areas
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 11:49 AM, ankIT WALiA ankitwali...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I am working with an NGO M S Swaminathan Research Foundationhttp://mssrf.orgwho works to provide Information, Education, Communication and Technology for Rural India. They also work into other scientific solutions to Agriculture, Bio-Diversity and Food Security. They provide basic computer education to students(in vacation time) of some rural areas of Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Orissa and Maharashtra. They are teaching Microsoft Potential Unlimited Program, Intel Learning Program and one program designed by Azim Premzi Foundation. As you know, most of the Indians living in rural areas. Are we, the Linux community, already doing something, similar to that, in rural areas? The agencies mentioned above are nicely tied up with Govt agencies and the latter often provides them support. some times the support is indirect by making the syllabus explicitly mention the products and not skills. We are gnowledge.org are based in Mumbai and we are working in some rural schools. We conduct training programs for teachers. If you are interested we can share our resources and also conduct workshops any where in India. -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Large Debian installations in India
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote: Hi, Tirveni and I just completed a large (~2500 desktops + ~40 servers) installation of Debian -- Squeeze and Wheezy -- in 6 locations in India. Was wondering, is anyone aware of larger or comparable Debian installations in the country? Or should we be spraining our wrists trying to pat ourselves on our backs? Regards, congratulations! regarding whether this is the larger deployment or not: we need to check with some Govt department deployments done by BOSS team of CDAC. Assam Govt and Kerala Govt. are other possible places. -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] FSF donation drive at GeekMeetup at Delhi/NCR #FSF #FreeSoftware
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: I will be speaking on 16 Jan 2011 on Why we should donate to FSF for 10 minutes. We are starting a donation drive for FSF on 16 Jan 2011 at Geek Meetup - Cash collected during meetup will be transferred of the Credit Card Holder the he will transfer money to FSF account during meetup itself using his credit card. Everything will happen on the stop itself so loopholes.. http://lug-iitd.org/Geek_meetup_-_16_Jan_2011#FSF_Donation_Drive Almost 50+ people are coming, one can donate from 50 INR to 5000 INR. It depends on your pocket money. So Lets make donation to one of the most important organization who is still fighting for digital freedom. If you are unable to attend the meetup and want to donate to FSF, then you do it online - https://my.fsf.org/donate/ would these donations go to FSF Boston or FSF India? Since FSF India has no means to get donations in dollars, money sent out of the country cannot be spent in India. i recommend the donors to donate to FSF India, which can be used for programs within India. -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Android users here?
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all. How do you take backups of the address book / call logs / SMSes / apps on your Android phone? Does maker / brand make any difference here? I want actual experiences please. And my place is exclusive GNU/Linux, so sotware on the PC has to be FLOSS, preferably in Debian main. I am fed up of having to research a handset every time I change one, and planning to change over to Android in spite of the stiff (for a poor guy like me - a low end Android costs about one months' take home) prices. claim full freedom from the already dirty Android: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/ -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Twitter Updates from SchoolOS
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: you might be interested in following the updates on SchoolOS - http://twitter.com/SchoolOS Please join SchoolOS Project and lets Install GNU/Linux at every Indian School if you send the updates to identi.ca I will follow you. I have made Twitterfeed accounts and now Identi.ca account is synced with twitter on. http://identi.ca/schoolos I am following you now. -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Twitter Updates from SchoolOS
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Narendra Sisodiya naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote: you might be interested in following the updates on SchoolOS - http://twitter.com/SchoolOS Please join SchoolOS Project and lets Install GNU/Linux at every Indian School if you send the updates to identi.ca I will follow you. -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:15 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: On 11/18/2010 07:41 PM, A. Mani wrote: perhaps offlist if you prefer, but I would like to know why you think a storage format might have such a drastic impact on content delivery. epub is a Xhtml + XML based format meant specifically for ebooks. you are still talking about the storage format, and not the delivery mechanism. Blind people, afaik, dont give a rat's ass as to what or how the content is stored. Its the delivery in such situations that makes it relevant. storage format is one of the most important aspects of supporting accessibility, whether for the blind or otherwise. Technically it is very important for the markup to support annotations which will help reading to all people with all disabilities. So, I do not see how you say this so strongly! -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] [...@iitd:10396] Want to start a Library for FOSS books
can I read html, text, PDF files of my own? -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] video cutter for ubuntu
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 4:40 PM, sanjeev mishra mr.sanj...@gmail.com wrote: Avidemux is a free video editor designed for simple cutting, filtering and encoding tasks also checkout kdenlive, pitivi or openshot among many others. -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Rupee font in open format
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote: Please, please do not use these; the font uses a non-standard location / codepoint for the rupee sign. this document contains the code points for the various currency symbols. unicode.org/charts/PDF/U20A0.pdf -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] google docs vs openoffice-in-the-cloud
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Linux Lingam linuxlin...@gmail.com wrote: dear all, noticed a couple of emails in the ILUG-D flood, that point to docs that people have stored and shared on google-docs, for inputs and comments from ilug-d. astonishing how muft and mukt visions go up in smoke when they go up in the cloud. isn't there a better way for us to collaborate on spreadsheets, wordprocessed files, presentations, using the web and nothing but the web, so help me lord, 1) using a totally muft and mukt stack of platforms and solutions 2) ownership is guaranteed in the hands of the collaborators. 3) our data is not sitting in someone else's golden-cage with the key in their backpocket? 4) optionally, authored files may be tagged for search-engines under a CC license? scribid comes to mind. slideshare for presentations. but nothing holistic here, yet. wait for three-four months. gnowledge.org lab is going to release a web application to do documents, knowledge organisation, presentations, calendar, tasks, spreadsheets, mind maps, concept maps ... . all of this in plain text. This project is based on http://orgmode.org. Meanwhile you may look http://orgmode.org/worg. This is good enough for people who know how to collaborate and work using git, svn. The version we are making will be a web app that does the job for the users. -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] google docs vs openoffice-in-the-cloud
2010/7/18 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org: On Sunday 18 Jul 2010, Nagarjuna G wrote: wait for three-four months. gnowledge.org lab is going to release a web application to do documents, knowledge organisation, presentations, calendar, tasks, spreadsheets, mind maps, concept maps ... . all of this in plain text. This project is based on http://orgmode.org. What will the learning curve be like? The reason Google Docs and similar are so popular is because they offer an interface mostly indistinguishable from the document/spreadsheet processing that people do on their desktops. If they have to learn new formatting commands, etc. I'm afraid the usage is going to remain limited to people like you and me who have Emacs/TeX experience, and who are comfortable using plain-text markup. We are going to do it in two phases: in the first phase it is ready for you and me and in the second phase it will have a GUI. Just as a tinyMCA or such online editors can introduce html tags in the buffer, it is possible to introduce orgmode and simple markup. people like you and me can alternatively and optionally edit the text buffer direclty. others would use a javascript based editor like tinyMCA. Much as I hate to say this, any viable alternative to Google Docs has to present an interface that has a minimal learning curve. In other words, it has to mimic Excel as far as possible; without that, end-users will simply not use the service, however good it may be. Indeed. the objective of this project is to bring the best of orgmode and gnowsys to the rest of the non-geeky community. We need contributions of experts in UI design (Niyam are you listening!) -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Sugar OLPC workshop in Goa 28th June - 2nd July 2010
Sugar OLPC workshop in Goa 28th June - 2nd July 2010 gnowledge lab of Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR will be conducting a five day workshop on Sugar Platform on OLPC in Goa in collaboration with Digital Bridge Foundation,and Nirmala Instititute of Education, Goa, is organising a symposium on the Sugar Learning Platform. Venue: Our lady of Merces High School, Merces, Goa If you know people in Goa, (GLUG-GOA) please send them this note. We need volunteers with knowledge in GNU/Linux to help the school successfully run this program. The third standard school students (about 97 of them) will be given one OLPC each. The teachers and students of the school will be attending this workshop. Event details: http://lab.gnowledge.org/events/sugar-olpc-workshop-in-goa -- GN ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] AICTE, FOSS and us
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Mohit Singh gmohitsi...@gmail.com wrote: No disrespect intended, but I am at a loss at understanding what you are talking about here. From what little I know, AICTE is some kind of a sarkaari regulatory body for education. Where does tehelka.com factor in here? AICTE sends inspectors to engineering institutions for approving their courses and also for 'so called' quality certification of NBA. All FOSSilosophy aside, they immediately reject FOSS as part of the software available for computer labs, library and otherwise. They want proofs of bills and licences/renewals - and all this is STRICTLY as NASSCOM or those non free software business people want. FSF India or FOSSCOMM can provide the certification service for the FOSS software they run. We will write to the AICTE and make them accept our certificate. Before we do this, can someone do the research and tell who to write to? -- Nagarjuna ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Fwd: Release Candidate of GNOWSYS and gnowsys-mode
-- Forwarded message -- From: Nagarjuna G nagar...@gnowledge.org Date: Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:00 AM Subject: Release Candidate of GNOWSYS and gnowsys-mode To: info-...@gnu.org Gnowledge lab team is happy to announce the release of GNOWSYS and gnowsys-mode. This is the first major release of GNOWSYS and gnowsys-mode (An Emacs major mode as an UI for GNOWSYS) as a release candidate 1. If no more bugs are reported/fixed in the coming two months, v 1.0 will be released in May 2010. The release can be downloaded from here: http://mirror.lihnidos.org/GNU/savannah/gnowsys/gnowsysApp_rc1.tar.bz2 http://mirror.lihnidos.org/GNU/savannah/gnowsys/gnowsys-mode_rc1.tar.bz2 Release Notes: This release is a major overhaul of the last stable release 0.62 (June 2006). After this GNOWSYS has been completely rewritten. The major changes are summarized below: + The storage uses postgresql and not ZOPE object database (ZODB). + Full version control of data and metadata is implemented making it a multiuser collaboration through the web, as well as through an Emacs client. (A major mode of GNU Emacs called gnowsys-mode has been developed as a client to work collaboratively through Internet without using an Internet browser.) + It is scalable and faster than all the earlier versions. + It is standardized for use as a triple (RDF) store. (In the next release Ontologies can be published and managed collaboratively.) + Graphs are drawn automatically for each node in SVG with hyperlinks. + RDF export in N3 notation is implemented. + Basic ontology editing is possible through the Emacs client: gnowsys-mode. * A brief Introduction about GNOWSYS GNOWSYS (Gnowledge Networking and Organizing System) is a triple store (RDF) for representing knowledge networks and its dynamics. ** The Structure of the Network Memory The network construction uses the following principles: 1. The memory in GNOWSYS is a set of nodes with all nodes with a unique NID (Node ID). The NID with the address locator gives rise to a unique URI in the cyberspace. 2. Every node links with the neighborhood nodes through two kinds of mediating nodes: attributes and relations. Thus every node can be represented as a frame. 3. Every node is described by neighborhood. 4. The network can be obtained as a graph by merging the neighborhood of all the nodes. 5. The set of all attributes and relations is the full set of knowledge represented in the network. 6. Each attribute or relation constitutes one RDF triple. 7. Search and query operations give the list of SSID (SnapShot ID) whose neighborhood contains the searched value. 8. The value space is linked to the nodes via named links making most results of queries meaningful. 9. The representation of network memory can be completely encoded in any of the RDF languages. ** The Dynamics (change management) of the Network Memory 1. Insertion of new nodes changes the neighborhood of the nodes concerned, and such changes can be tracked by holding the snapshots of the node's neighborhood at each instance of change. 2. Being a collaborative space, the system records who did what change and at what time. 3. Delinking is the preferred way of removing data elements from the network, and no node can be removed without prior removal of the links the node may have with others. 4. Each Node's neighborhood at a given time becomes the state space of the node. 5. Changing state of nodes can be recorded persistently as process nodes that record the prior-state and post-state of the nodes invovled. For more details, please follow http://www.gnu.org/software/gnowsys/ and http://lab.gnowledge.org site. For video documentation please see: http://lab.gnowledge.org/download/gnowsys-mode-screencasts -- Nagarjuna ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Any OLPC lover ?
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:55 PM, narendra sisodiya narendra.sisod...@gmail.com wrote: After visiting Katha School at Delhi I think they need training, Anybody can learn OLPC from following tutorials gnowledge.org lab conducts workshops for Sugar with and without OLPC. -- Nagarjuna ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Open Source tool for Knowledge management
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:32 PM, bipin sartape bipin...@yahoo.com wrote: hello gopal, i am also working on km implementation for our organisation. to begin with we have started with Plone because of the array of features it offers. however the learning curve is very steep. Plone's learning curve is steep for the developers, and not for the users. If the feature required is only to add keywords and create keyword based search and organization then Plone rocks. If you are looking for advanced semnatic web based knowledge management tool, then you may consider using gnowsys (http://lab.gnowledge.org). Again, learning curve is steep. Nagarjuna ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] another official mirror
I came to know about this mirror today. If you already know about it, please ignore. http://www.cse.iitk.ac.in/mirror/linux_mirror.html -- Nagarjuna G. http://www.gnowledge.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Invitation to join FSUG-Goa mailgroup
Fred, I am wondering why do you want to use yahoogroups? a person like me or another who would never like to open an account on yahoo could not be part of that. This amounts to not honoring other email addresses. If you wish, we can find a mailman based server for you? do you want to consider this option? Nagarjuna ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Our meeting with the secretary school education
Please forward this to your press contacts. Press Release A delegation of seven educationists and activists from Mumbai met the Secretary, School Education, Government of Maharashtra, Shri Sanjay Kumar, at the Mantralaya on 2nd September at 3pm. Their aim was to express their critique of the proposed agreement between the state and a multinational corporation in the area of ICTs in education and to offer an alternative based of Free and Open Source Software. The attached representation (PDF) was submitted to him by the group, who consisted of : Nagarjuna G., Free Software Foundation, India Padma Sarangapani, Tata Institute of Social Sciences Ravi Subramaniam, Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, TIFR J T de Souza GNU/Linux Users Group, Mumbai Chandita Mukherjee, Comet Media Foundation Sridhar Iyer, IIT Bombay and Sahana Murthy, IIT Bombay. During the meeting, the Secretary informed the delegation that the State government is aware of the pitfalls of working with corporates and is willing to consider alternatives approaches to introducing ICTs in education on a large scale, if any group proposes them. The Govt, he said, will work with all interested parties and will be inclusive in their approach. When told that in the current Maharashtra standard 8 text book, for example, there are brand names mentioned in the text and logos shown in the illustrations, he said that their department does not interfere with textbook content, since that is looked after by the experts of the Maharastra Text Book Bureau. When we suggested that it was the Education Department's role to set policy guidelines, such as not to carry brand names, the Secretary agreed with this in in principle. We suggested that we can help in (i) designing a curriculum for students that focusses on broad concepts from ICT that help develop thinking skills, as well as specific usage skills, (ii) writing books that can implement this curriculum, in a vendor-neutral manner, (iii) designing curriculum for teachers and iv) implementing teacher training programmes After listening to the delegation, the Secretary asked us to submit a proposal to contribute to the effective dissemination of ICT skills within the school system in Maharashtra . The team agreed to do this within two weeks and to subsequently explore possibilities of reaching an MoU with the Government of Maharashtra. We will keep you posted as the story develops. -- Dr. Nagarjuna G. Chairperson, Free Software Foundation of India, Reader, Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, V.N. Purav Marg, Mankhurd. Mumbai India, 400088 -- Nagarjuna G. http://www.gnowledge.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] [Positions] openings in gnowledge.org lab
Please follow the advertisement here. http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/Data/Objects/N/Notice1808/viewObject If you have any clarifications, you may write to me off the list. -- Nagarjuna G. http://www.gnowledge.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] New site: gnowledge network
Sorry if you get multiple copies; I know there are many common members in the groups I am sending to. Dear fellow hackers, www.gnowledge.org http://gnowledge.org portal will be slowly transformed soon into a collaborative concept mapping (knowledge networking) site. Please check out the first edition with dependency maps. The old site will be slowly phased out, it is available from http://old.gnowledge.org/ New site is http://www.gnowledge.org/ Join, contribute, test, and help in this new initiative. Do spread the word around so that more and more people can add to the growing network. Soon to come: type map, part map, interaction map, cause-effect map, debian software map, translation map, and soon a new SELF Platform with automatically created course structure from the knowledge network. -- Nagarjuna G. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] report on the stake holders meeting
I attended the stake holders meeting in Mumbai at the Patent's office. The room was full of people, more than 80 people attended the meet. Of which about 30 were interested in the software issue. the rest of them are interested mostly in bioinformatics, chemical processes etc. What gave me solace is that this is not an attempt to modify the law. So, status quo exists. software patents per se are not possible in India. However. what the office is doing is it prepared a draft of a Manual helping the inventors in how to apply for a patent. In that manual, there is an attempt to suggest how to exploit the 'per se' and apply for software patents in combination with hardware. Due to several questions on this issue raised by several of us, and also due to written feedback submitted by quite a few others in Delhi meet, they are organizing a stake holders meeting in Bangalore later (in the coming three to four months period) where they are going to settle all the doubts and listen all the points of view. The date of bangalore meeting is not yet announced. Meanwhile, chennai and kolkatta meetings are still going to be held before the bangalore meeting. It is a good idea to send our supporters to both these places, so that the officers must see that there is sufficient opposition to this manipulation. Nagarjuna ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] BOSS Linux, and source code availability
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Er, nothing obvious about it -- I'm trying to be precise about the licence and the law here. To reiterate -- if someone gives you binaries of a GPL software s/he is obliged to give you the sources too if you ask for them. If they don't give you the binaries they are NOT obliged to provide sources. If CDAC is distributing binaries (which they are at http://bosslinux.in/downloads) they are obliged to make the sources available too. That doesn't necessarily mean that the source code has to be up for download at the same place; however if you write to them and ask for the source they have to provide it to you (in whatever form), and then you will be free to redistribute the source under the terms of the GPL. For instance you could get the source from CDAC on a CD and then make it available for open download. CDAC is only violating the GPL they don't respond to a request for the source code from a bona fide downloader of their distribution. Has anyone downloaded the CD images and asked them for source yet? I have written to them seeking clarification. Will wait for a week. Nagarjuna ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] BOSS Linux, and source code availability
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 23:26:28 +0530 Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] It's only a violation if someone gives you BOSS Linux and does not give you the source. If you have a copy of BOSS Linux, then you are entitled to the source of the GPL portions it contains. If you don't have the binaries you have no entitlement to the source. OTOH if the CDAC page offers binaries for download they're legally obliged to provide you with the sources too if you ask for them. [...] Yes, that was the point. The download page offers binaries, and CDAC has distributed many copies of BossLinux binary-only CDs free of cost. I would like to get the source code. Besides just for the principle of the licence, I would also like to see if they have done any enhancements specific to Indian language computing. Regards, Gora please ask them for the entire sources, or ask them to show them a link to the sources for download. If they do not comply inform me. In my next step, I will write to them formally. Nagarjuna ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Deepak Phatak's letter
http://deepakphatak.blogspot.com/2008/05/this-is.html -- Nagarjuna G. http://www.gnowledge.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] [OT] Load balancing router
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Anyone have suggestions for a router that can do the following? - Handle 2 providers: one ADSL and one Cable (Ethernet). - Load balance between the two links. - Periodically check status of links and switch to one line only if the other line goes down. - Internal stuff like DHCP, etc. Specific model numbers and your experience would be useful, thanks! recently we replaced our cisco routers in our LAN with vyatta which is based on a fork of GNU zebra. They have excellent documentation and several kinds of load balancing, as well as many other tricks that can be done with sophisticated routers are possible. Our load balancing is working fine with vyatta. we are the server image provided at their site: http://www.vyatta.org/ enjoy! Nagarjuna ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Advice on buying a laptop and reclaiming M$ tax
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Manish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I am on the lookout for a laptop that plays nice with Linux and have zeroed in on three choices: Lenovo Thinkpad R61 [1], Dell XPS M1330 [2] and Sony Vaio CR [3]. I am not sure how compatible they are with Debian. Some web-search does suggest that almost all of them can be made to work but I would appreciate advice from the real world as well. Web search also did not come up with any instances of anyone ever having `reclaimed' the M$ tax in India. Has that ever been attempted? if you choose Dell latitude series machines, they give you the option not to have M$ at all. they give the machine with freedos installed. not tax here. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] a list discussing the ICT policy for education
Those of you who would like to take active role in shaping the ICT policy of India, please join this group and voice your opinions. This group has members from various organizations, and not necessarily from free software community. http://groups.google.com/group/ict-education-india -- Nagarjuna G. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] BIS committee votes against ooxml
India's BIS votes against ooxml. out of 19 members, five of them did not attend the meeting, one of them abstained, five voted in favor of ooxml, and the rest voted against. -- Nagarjuna G. http://www.gnowledge.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] GSoC GNU project
GNU is participating again in the GSoC project. we encourage free software hackers to consider contributing and spending this summer mentoring or joining this event this summer. project ideas are listed at: http://www.gnu.org/software/soc-projects/ideas.html -- Nagarjuna G. http://www.gnowledge.org/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22-24, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Fwd: [Free Map] Free and Open Mapping India, A Series of Workshops in February 2008
please read this announcement, and if you want to be part of this, please subscribe to the list so that we can take it forward. http://freemap.in/pipermail/freemap-workshop/2007-December/000150.html Also request you to spread the information. please help us to raise some funds as well so that this event will take off. donations can be sent to Free Software Foundation of India. Nagarjuna ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] DeepaMehta is GPL
On Nov 26, 2007 3:17 PM, Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I prefer orgmode in emacs22. incidentally orgmode can export to freemind as well. Very interesting indeed. Thanks for pointing out. BTW. I am unable to set it up for exporting to freemind. As specified, I copied the *.el files to the orgmode directory, and added the following to .emacs (require org-export-freemind-install) But after I did this, emacs gives me the following error. An error has occurred while loading `/home/vikas/.emacs': Symbol's value as variable is void: org-export-freemind-install It seems the documentation has a typo. there should be a quote before the expression: so it should be: (require 'org-export-freemind-install) Nagarjuna ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] DeepaMehta is GPL
On Nov 26, 2007 9:50 AM, Anivar Aravind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: मनीष wrote: Java errors are anyways completely opaque to me. I think I will stick with Freemind for now. I still prefer vym I prefer orgmode in emacs22. incidentally orgmode can export to freemind as well. Nagarjuna ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Next Event: http://freed.in - February 22/23, 2008 Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [Fsf-friends] Re: [ilugd] Preliminary software patent FAQ
On Tuesday 11 Jan 2005 2:59 am, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 01:41 +0530, Raj Mathur wrote: 2. Put it in an easily-editable Wiki so it's easier for people to contribute. Please do NOT choose a Wiki that has a complex registration process. 3. Fill in the portions that are incomplete and suggest new topics and/or facts that can go into the FAQ. I have wiki-fied the text and put it up at http://www.lug- delhi.org/SoftwarePatentFAQ . I have also added a few references, and some tiny examples of patents. Feel free to edit them if they are unsuitable. The wiki only requires simple registration before editing. Very nice and useful work. Great work Raj and Sandip. I do hope others in the list will take this initiative forward and make this a very useful resource. Nagarjuna ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Re: [LIG] SCO subpoenas RMS, Trovalds, others.
LinuxLingam wrote: SCO Fires back, Subpoenas Stallman, Torvalds et al SCO has just, within the past hour, announced that they have fired back against IBM's legal broadside, with one of their own, [1]filing subpoenas against several of the biggest names in Linux. SCO filed subpoenas with the U.S. District Court in Utah, targeting six different individuals or organizations. Those include Novell; Linus Torvalds, creator of the Linux kernel; Richard Stallman of the Free Software Foundation; Stewart Cohen, chief executive of the Open Source Development Labs; and John Horsley, general counsel of Transmeta. Links 1. http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5106450.html The plot is thickening, and therefore interesting. I do hope this really happens since these great figures of history will go to court, talk preferably without lawyers, where things get recorded, and the judges get, hopefully, good lessons. However, we should not always play their game according their rules. Sometimes we need to play our own game and following our own rules. Nagarjuna ___ ilugd mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
