Re: [ilugd] Visual free and df

2009-09-21 Thread Sharninder

 To elaborate -- I have about 10 servers that send me mail every morning
 on their current status.  The status includes disk and memory usage
 (currently df and free).  At the moment I'm reading both outputs to
 figure out if the server is reaching its limits, but it would be nice if
 I could just glance at the mail and figure out how much disk and memory
 is being used without having to read the individual figures.  Reading
 100 numbers and correlating them early every morning is no fun, I can
 assure you :)


How *visual* do you want the output to be ?

If you want a pie chart like the GUI apps show, I can't think of any
console based app that does that. If you only want the numbers, then
why not just take the df -h (and free -m) output and use a couple of
awk's and greps on it ?

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Hi - Stock Market Ticker

2009-06-07 Thread Sharninder
 I have to create a custom ticker for a website which shows information of
 stock market / MCX commodity exhcange. Where can i grab the data from which
 site/ XML Feed,
 I can code in Perl i just need to know which site I can use to fetch
 relaibly.
 I need to know the live prices and i dont want to go for pre-built ones, i
 need to know the live prices in my code.

This is most definitely OT but here goes:

You can try scraping yahoo/google finance feeds but they're almost all
*free* data that you find online, will be delayed. If you want a live
feed, you'll most probably have to pay the stock xchange a tidy sum of
money.

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Re: [ilugd] Connecting to MS Exchange 2007 on Ubuntu 9.0

2009-04-29 Thread Sharninder
 I have been trying to connect to the company's MS Exchange server (MS
 Exchange 2007) on my Ubuntu 9.0 system but have had no luck. I have
 installed evolution-mapi as well, I don't get beyond the password
 prompt during configuration. This is the last error that I get,

 libexchangemapi-Message: exchange-mapi-connection.c:146:
 exchange_mapi_connection_close: lock(connect_lock) Segmentation fault


There is a bug for this problem. I don't have the bug number with me
offhand but you can google that.

The workaround is to use the IP address of the exchange server instead
of the domain name.

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Re: [ilugd] Samba + anti-virus

2008-10-18 Thread Sharninder
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:24 PM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 A client is running a few hundred Winduhs PCs in his office, with 3
 Linux FC Samba servers.  Facing tons of problems with viruses on the
 shares, so we're looking for a Samba+Anti-virus solution.

Have you tried using clamav on the Linux boxes ? This might help:

http://michsan.blogspot.com/2008/04/installing-clamav-antivirus-on-samba-in.html

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Nintendo Wii in India : use it as low cost whiteboard !!

2008-10-07 Thread Sharninder
2008/10/8 narendra sisodiya [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 HI, I wish to purchase Nintendo Wii device in  India , but do not have any
 idea,,
 have anybody purchased it , if where , place and cost ??
 I am mainly interested in its remote part -- WIIMOTE , can be buy it
 separately,,,
 Any guideline ??

The Nintendo Wii is not available in India officially yet, afaik.
Although you might be able to get on off ebay for about 20k or so. you
can buy the wiimote also seperately.


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Re: [ilugd] RMS Says Cloud Computing Is Trap

2008-10-02 Thread Sharninder
 Well, I have been waiting to see the FOSS response to this for a while
 now. It is an interesting problem to solve. Of course, just calling it
 a trap doesn't suffice. You have to provide an alternative.

http://eucalyptus.cs.ucsb.edu/

FYI: redhat is also working on some cloud computing projects of their
own. I don't have a link with me right now, though.


 It is a very interesting technology which will obviously change the way
 many applications can work. It challenges the whole notion of how
 computing is done today. The only response to it from a FOSS POV is to
 provide an alternate business model. Something similar to how the SETI
 project(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volunteer_computing), or even Tor
 works.


While I agree with the points RMS is making, I don't really agree with
the way he has put them. Cloud computing is the next frontier and I'm
not saying this because everyone else is saying. I'm saying this
because as a user all I care about is my data and ofcourse my freedom
to use it anywhere. Cloud computing gives me that. Most vendors take
care of keeping backups etc also so that's one more thing off my plate
as a user. It certainly is promising. The only thing the user needs to
be aware of is data lock-in and then decide on the service he/she
uses.

Like someone else on this thread said, Gmail has all my emails, but
atleast I have an option of using pop/imap to get them back, even if
gmail actually makes a second copy of all emails and keeps them on
their servers somewhere, I've still got my data back.

Privacy is a touchy subject but do you really think normal guys who DO
NOT hang out on slashdot care about having their email stored on gmail
or not ?  I remember the hue and cry that was made when gmail launched
and google decided to display advertisements based on the content of
the emails. And now those very people are all using gmail. Perhaps RMS
can afford to have highly available, always backed up email/data
available to him, but the general public cannot, and that is where
cloud computing is supposed to help.

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Re: [ilugd] What do you think about this blog ?

2008-09-30 Thread Sharninder
 I came across this blog..What are your comments..

 http://linuxhaters.blogspot.com/


I absolutely love this blog. Whoever is behind the blog actually knows
what he's talking about. He's not a random cribbing user. It'd
actually do the community a lot of good if we take the person's cribs
as constructive criticism.


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Re: [ilugd] [OT]Openmoko availability in India

2008-09-24 Thread Sharninder

 I have few queries regarding openmoko , May be somebody can answer!
 (probably Deepank)

  How can i order openmoko , What will be the service terms for the
 openmoko phone ?, Is anybody on list using the openmoko phone ? How do
 we compare it with HTC i-touch ?

I don't know about the service terms etc., but the openmoko site does
list a Jaipur based company as the distributor for openmoko.

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Re: [ilugd] Google's browser - Chrome

2008-09-02 Thread Sharninder

 I don`t think that is the reason, Here at their comic strip
 http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/ , They have explained the
 reason why they are developing this browser, It has to do less with
 market share , But more with architectural faults.


You really think Google cares about architectural faults in the
browser ? They're a commercial company and will only care as long as
they profit. The only reason for releasing a browser competing with an
opensource product was so that they have control over it. Google makes
its money from webapps and a browser is the only piece of the puzzle
they didn't control, and so it makes sense for them to invest in this
domain instead of continuing to support another opensource effort,
since they will never be able to give complete direction to that
effort.

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Re: [ilugd] Reading TCP packets

2008-07-23 Thread Sharninder
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:55 PM, Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This may not be correct place but collective wisdom can perhaps point
 me to a good resource.

 I have a remote device that is generating data and is sending as a TCP
 packet to designated IP:Port. If I open and set a non standard port I
 am able to receive the packets using a listener. Problem is that the
 host where I have to move this project allows listening only on port
 80 (apache) or port 25/110 (mail) or port 22 (ssh)

 How can I set up apache or iptables to log in incoming data packets
 while at the same time allow apache to serve web pages?


So, are you saying you want two application (apache and some other
application) sharing the TCP port. I don't think that would be
possible without some scary hacks. I don't know the nature of the data
that your remote device is generating, but can you write a script (cgi
perhaps) running under apache that distinguishes between an HTTP
request and the remote device request and depending on that passes on
control.

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Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Sharninder

 (a) Have someone from Redhat give you a copy.

 1. Is it legal for someone to distribute a Redhat Enterprise Linux copy that
 he bought from Redhat without any Redhat agreement or restrictions? If yes,
 than again I get back to my old question which is how will he get the
 distro.

RHEL can be distributed to anyone and it is legal. Redhat will provide
support only if you buy a support package from them, which is how they
earn money, but its perfectly legal to distribute RHEL.

 2. Is it legal for someone from Redhat(assuming he has the access to the
 distro) to distribute it for free without any Redhat agreement or
 restrictions(in short as FOSS)

I'm sure employees distributing unreleased version of redhat would
land in some trouble, but distributing released versions shouldn't be
a problem. Again, I don't know the contents of the employement
agreement at Redhat so I'm just guessing this.


 (b) Use CentOS

 Acceptable. Yet, still not RHEL!

Yes, its not RHEL, but CentOS is based on the corresponding RHEL and
should be binary compatible. Atleast that's what they claim. CentOS
takes an RHEL copy and removes mentions of the company's name and
repackages the distribution.


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Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-22 Thread Sharninder
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 22 Jul 2008, Smruti wrote:
 1. Is it legal for someone to distribute a Redhat Enterprise Linux
 copy that he bought from Redhat without any Redhat agreement or
 restrictions? If yes, than again I get back to my old question which
 is how will he get the distro.

 IANAL, but it's legal to re-distribute RHEL since RH relies on trademark
 rather than copyright to protect its operating systems.  So you can
 re-distribute it, but your recipient can't use it since s/he would be
 violating Red Hat's trademarks by doing so.

 Perhaps someone from RH on this list could give us accurate information?


Well, since everyone else differs on this, I'll take my words back. I
might be wrong in assuming that it was legal to distribute RHEL.


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Re: [ilugd] which flavour of linux to choose

2008-07-21 Thread Sharninder
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Mehul Ved [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 5:53 PM, neha sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello frnz...i ve been a membr of dis grp since long bt hv been
 a mere lurker yet..newayz m jus beginning off wid linux nd i
 ve xp installed on ma machine nd i want to install linux too , can u guyz
 tell me as to whch vrsion i shld go for nd whr wld i gt d same?
 hope to gt a response..thnk u!


First of all, the answer to your question: Use Ubuntu or openSuSE.
Other distro proponents on this list would probably kill me for saying
this, but I think these two would be the easiest for a newbie to start
with.

Secondly: Wow ! Does the young generation these days actually
understand the language you wrote in ? I had to read a couple of words
twice to understand the email.

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Re: [ilugd] Ukrainian MySQLer needs help to cover the cost of his son's operation

2008-07-16 Thread Sharninder
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 16 Jul 2008, narendra sisodiya wrote:
 Andrii's son Ivan, who is 2 1/2, is in need of a bone marrow
 transplant operation.

 Please don't forward chain letters to mailing lists.


Actually, this has been posted to the mysql website also and is
probably a legitimate request. Agreed, this is Off-Topic here, can't
doubt the intention :-)


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Re: [ilugd] MySql Data management

2008-07-08 Thread Sharninder
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:22 PM, XpoSoft Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear All,

 I am running one application where getting more than 1000 records per second 
 on server and pushing in one table. I need someone who can setup my MySql 
 server on clustered architecture and optimize queries so that can get result 
 of any select query on table which have more that 50 lakh record in less that 
 2 minute. My front End application is developed in .NET.


Commercial Post ? If not, have you RTFM'ed ?

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Re: [ilugd] Looking for Performance Benchmarks

2008-07-07 Thread Sharninder
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Anand Shankar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do we have any performance benchmarks to compare performance of
 complete PC systems? In commercial world people have various benchmark
 tools such as Sysmark, webmark etc. But most of them look like
 application performance benchmark.

 Need to know raw performances as a single mark, which can be used to
 evaluate various systems on a linear scale.


Are you looking to measure performance of IO intensive workloads or
CPU intensive workloads ? I haven't used sysmark and the other tools
you have mentioned, but I'd guess that even these tools measure
individual components of a system, assigning them relative values to
come up with a value which they then label as the performance of the
complete system relative to some other arbit. system.

IO benchmarking tools like iozone or bonnie would help you. There are
other similar tools for measuring samba, NFS, apache and database
performance as well.

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Re: [ilugd] Time for Firefox download -- Download Day 2008 -- today - 10:30 PM

2008-06-17 Thread Sharninder
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:22 PM, narendra sisodiya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, lets set the world record for Firefox downloads --
 http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord/ - see poland and germany has
 50,000+ users and India we have only 29,000+ , its time now to send this
 mail to all your friend list --
 Remember -- download time is for India is --  *17 June 2008 -- Tue 10:30 PM
 *

 * *taken from - http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/2438


The number has already increased to about 32k for India but then China
has just about 22k. Ah well, so much for comparisons !



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Re: [ilugd] Sharing network load over multiple ssh tunnels

2008-04-24 Thread Sharninder
  I access the internet by establishing an SSH tunnel to one of multiple
  hosts, and using dynamic port forwarding(SOCKS) on my computer. I would like
  to do some load sharing over the multiple tunnels that I have, effectively
  increasing the speed that i get. Is there a way that I can configure an SSH
  tunnel as a network interface on the machine? Also, is there another way to
  carry out load sharing over multiple tunnels without creating interfaces?

I don't know if I understood your problem correctly or not, but your
setup seems to be an ideal usecase for the kernel tun/tap modules.

http://vtun.sourceforge.net/tun/faq.html

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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Sharninder
   (2) I pointed out that wget supports the above get files in pieces
   use-case-- through the -c command-line switch and hence is sufficient.

  BS. if you would learn not to top post, I would elaborate. But while
  you are investigating what is a top post, you could also investigate
  the difference between a distributed download and a resumed download
  - and the meaning of BS

lol

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Re: [ilugd] convert ?

2008-04-11 Thread Sharninder
  
   the question is: the original partial file is a wget download - how
   can you continue that download with torrent?

I think what Mehul is trying to say is that if the filename that the
torrent client creates is exactly the same as the file that the user
had been downloading with wget, then most torrent clients will take
that as a base and assume that the data already 'in' the file has been
downloaded in a previous session and continue downloading the rest of
the data.

The gnome built-in torrent client does check the file for data already
downloaded while resuming a session, so Mehul's suggestion just might
work. I've never written a torrent client myself to understand the
protocol well enough, though.

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Re: [ilugd] Network Installation of SLES

2008-04-10 Thread Sharninder

  I want to install Suse Enterprise Server 9 with SP3 throguh network.

  So, I need guidence in determining the best possible way of doing it. My
  options are:
  + AutoInstall (A things which is stopping me from adopting this is, the
  installations are not same. I mean everytime the filesystem, services,
  packages and everything will be different)
  + NFS
  + PXE Installation (This is something I would like to implement if it
  can provide me flexibility with minimal user intervention)


PXE definitely is the least painful method if your servers are setup
to boot from LAN. You can have different config files/profiles for
booting the different installation types that you want and combined
with yast autoinstall files, the process can be fully automated.

If you need more info on setting up PXE specifically look at:

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/17719.html

This should get you a basic idea to start with.


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Re: [ilugd] Delete thousands of folders and files

2008-04-07 Thread Sharninder
  In Konquerer you have seprate buttons for move to trash and Delete.
  As for .Trash, all this is on a separate NFS, so mv won't be fast too.
  However mv on the same filesystem is instant.
  SO thats why I do a mv to somedir.old, and start deleting it, and
  carry on with my other work.

AFAIK, the mv is fast because only the directory entry is changed and
the actual data blocks are not. I think the fastest method would be
just change the dentry for this particular entry. One of the earlier
emails talked about unlinking using the --directory option.

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Re: [ilugd] Use for a really old PC?

2008-04-03 Thread Sharninder
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

  Any suggestions on how to use an ageing PC (P2 333 MHz, 128 MB RAM,
  10GB HDD, No CDROM, No Ethernet)?

  Would trying to convert it to a data/media server for my home LAN (if
  I attach a larger HDD and an ethernet card to it) be an exercise in
  futility? Should I just trash it instead?


A P2 333 might be fine for streaming a single stream of MP3s/videos
but you'll need an Ethernet in there first.

Also an upgrade to the hard disk if you intend to store videos on this.

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Re: [ilugd] Virtualization software

2008-03-23 Thread Sharninder
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 1:11 AM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sharninder wrote:
   Yes, I've used xen and vmware and both have served me equally well.
   Use vmware if you want the commercial support in a heavily loaded data
   center. Use xen if you can handle the support yourself or can depend
   on the community.

  imho, thats not true at all. You can get plenty of Vendor and
  implementation neutral support for Xen these days - much more so than
  vmware. Also, you get very well integrated Xen tools with most distro's
  which you dont get with vmware at all.

I stand corrected. You can get commercial support for xen and its
probably as good for commercial use as vmware. But, then I had a
disclaimer attached to my reply ;)

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Re: [ilugd] Virtualization software

2008-03-21 Thread Sharninder

  Has anyone tried running some kind of virtualization
  software in production on a Linux server and is there
  any feedback, comments, suggestions, benchmarks?


Yes, I've used xen and vmware and both have served me equally well.
Use vmware if you want the commercial support in a heavily loaded data
center. Use xen if you can handle the support yourself or can depend
on the community. In performance both are compareable and currently,
IMO, vmware has a lead in providing better management features with
the VI3 line. If you're looking to install a virtualisation software
on top of a linux distro, then your choice is between vmware
workstation or a xen patched kernel.

There are other virtualisation solutions also including kvm, lguest
all of which should serve you well for the usual test cases. In the
end your choice would depend on your use case and requirements.

Regards,
Sharninder

Disclaimer: I work for vmware.

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Re: [ilugd] Where is the community?

2005-09-27 Thread Sharninder

 I don't remember offhand if Cray has contributed anything, but did  
 you
 know that the NSA (the US National Security Agency) was  
 responsible for
 the development of SELinux? Not only did they contribute it back,  
 most
 distributions ship with it these days.-


 Thanks - thats education and good to know and 3 cheers for NASA -  
 really

Thank the NSA, not NASA !! These two are very different organisations.

--
Sharninder


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Re: [ilugd] Opening for Database Administrator

2004-12-23 Thread Sharninder Khera
That mail should have had a commercial tag. Caught you Raju ;)



* on the Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 09:59:39AM -0800, sumit sapra said:
 [Forwarding without prejudice.  Please send responses directly to
 Sumit Sapra -- Raju]
 
 The opening is with a growing BPO in Gurgaon (part of a large Indian
 IT major)

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Re: [ilugd] Why swap partition is recommended to be only 2 * RAM ..?

2004-10-18 Thread Sharninder Khera
* on the Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 10:44:37AM -, chakri gk said:
  Dear Friends,
 I am beginner of Linux and got a doubt.
 
 We suggest 2 * RAM space for swap size.
 Please can u elucidate:
 1. why only 2* RAM space for swap space.
 2. what happens if we assign more?

The 2*RAM recommendation is just a suggestion for people who don't know
how much space to allocate for swap. You can have more (or less) as you
wish. 

HTH
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Re: [ilugd] [OffTopic] Domain ownership details

2004-10-05 Thread Sharninder
   I verified my domain details at ENOM and found that all
   authority for my domain was given to the reseller
   Economicalhost.
 
   Is this the way domain ownership works ??
 

No, this is not how domain ownership works and this is not how it should
work. But sadly, most smaller companies in India work like this. You
should have told economicalhost specifically that you wanted the domain
in your name while registering it.

HTH
-- Sharninder



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Re: [ilugd] [OffTopic] Domain ownership details

2004-10-05 Thread Sharninder
 
 
 So, If tomorrow economicalhost goes bankrupt, there are chances for me
 to lose my domain. right ?
 

I'm not sure about this, but there must be some way you could transfer
the ownership to your name.


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Re: [ilugd] RHCE - worth spending 25000/- ?

2004-09-22 Thread Sharninder
On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 14:47, Amit Sharma wrote:
  
  Thats it ? .Bekaar hai RHCE.
 
 bekaar? why? elaborate pls.
 

because you don't need to be a guru to clear RHCE and most people who
apply for RHCE clear it, even if they don't have much knowledge. Whats
the point of a certification, if it does'nt help an employer seperate
the better candidates ?


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Re: [ilugd] RHCE - worth spending 25000/- ?

2004-09-22 Thread Sharninder

 ... And whoever gave you the impression that most people who apply for 
 RHCE clear it ?? RHCE has one of the lowest passing rates (Red Hat, I 
 think, claims a pass rate of 40%), and one of the very few which actually 
 tests your practical skills, and for a change, not your rote skills. [1]

I guess, I should have mentioned that those were my personal views. What
I meant was that passing RHCE does'nt add as much value to your resume
as professional degrees do. If tomorrow an RHCE and, say, en engineer or
an MCA are appearing for the same sys admin interview, I think the
professionals would be preferred for the position anytime.
Anyways, I don't think that practicalt skills, like setting up apache on
a system are of much value anyway. Unless, you know what each and every
option in the config file does and this is what is lacking in most RHCEs
passing out of mediocre institutes.


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Re: [ilugd] error while running java on Fedora core 2

2004-08-06 Thread Sharninder
 ... because 
a) these library dependency problems happen if you download a precompiled 
 binary, bypassing any dependency checks by a package manager.
   b) JDK is only distributed as binary.
 

The installation instructions on the java download site mention these
dependencies. Anyways, if the OP is confortable with RPMs (???) then its
his choice.

Cheers,
Sharninder



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Re: [ilugd] Mozilla Unable to access internet

2004-07-14 Thread Sharninder
 
  I recently installed Red Hat Linux 8.1 . I am unable to access my internet.
  I have a DSL connection, that is through my LAN card. So, i configured an
  ethernet connection defining all d required ip settings and DNS settings.
  For testing, i even tried to ping my gateway. And luckily it is able to do
  that. But for some reason, i am unable to access my internet. When i open
  mozilla, it says, resolving www.google.com or any other site's name.
  After a few minutes, it flashes me a msg, unable to open the site's name.
  So if anybody could help me out in this regardjust do so :)
 

looks like a problem with the DNS settings. As root open
/etc/resolv.conf and add the entry nameserver 202.54.1.30 (without the
quotes). 

HTH
Sharninder


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Re: [ilugd] Is Linux Compatible with Centrino (Dothan) Processor

2004-06-15 Thread Sharninder
Kunal Singhal (Linux) wrote:
I am planning to buy the new Dell 8600 notebook with Intel Centrino 745 1.8 GHz Processor 
Codenamed Dothan. This new centrino has 2MB Level 2 Cache as compared to 1 MB L2 Cache in the 
earlier series of Centrino Processors.
I would like to know if the latest Linux kernel supports the Dothan range of 
processors.
If yes, is there any major distribution built on this version of kernel.
 

The Dothan looks like just an improved version of the usual centrino 
processor. I don't see any reason why it would'nt work with linux.

HTH
Sharninder

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Re: [ilugd] Re: Re: Re: Re: A Central CD vendor found--but there is a catch

2004-06-03 Thread Sharninder

1. Who posts to bazee at what frequency?
2. Who delivers the product?
3. Where from does one get CDs to sell them?
4. How is that better than ILUGD CD list?
 

Well, staying in Calcutta and with an extremely taxing job, I can't 
really coordinate with ilugd for this even though I would love to be of 
help to the community. Baazee is basically an online auction site and 
*almost* a total copy of ebay. Lots of shopkeepers and other ppl sell 
through baazee with a option which they provide called quick buy. Items 
under quick buy are not on auction and they can be bought by directly 
from the seller by paying the requested price.
The seller can post the number of items he wants to put on sale and also 
the time for which the auction will stay open. Once closed the item can 
again be posted. It does'nt take too much time to do that.
Its better than the CD mailing list cause the net in general seems to 
have a wider audience and reach. Say, as a resident of bangalore, I 
would not really be inclined to join a mailing list by ilugd. Though, I 
know many people do join many mailing lists at a time, like I am 
subscribed to lists from 10 cities right now. But baazee.com, IMO, would 
cater to broader audience.  I know RHCEs who don't have a clue what 
mailing lists are ? But they do know about baazee.com.

I think we are trying to solve a different problem here.
Efficient duplication and distribution of CDs.
That involves a LUG member to just provide the master CDs and let the CD
distributer handle the rest including duplication(which B T W involves
significant time and effort)
 

Yes, I think rather than the distribution, the actual task of CD 
replication and collection from various sources is the main task and 
this is what should be taken care of first. I would suggest, that this 
be done in the monthly meetings. We can make a list and the number of 
CDs that would be sold out in a particular month and ask volunteers to 
bring in 3-4 copies of the distros which they can burn and bring from 
their own copies and then next month distribute the money again to the 
members whose items have been sold on baazee. I hope I was able to make 
myself clear :)
Basically, this way the users get their money for duplicating the CDs 
and ilugd gets a name for distributing those CDs in the first place.

HTH
Sharninder

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Re: [ilugd] Re: Re: Re: A Central CD vendor found--but there is a catch

2004-06-02 Thread Sharninder
Tarun Dua wrote:
Sharninder wrote:
 

This sounds a lot like what baazee.com does. Can't we just sell through
baazee.com and advertise that fact on the ilugd site as well as at other
places. 
   

Sharninder, are you volunteering to work out the logistics and post them to
the list.
-Tarun
 

Oops !!! I stay in Calcutta !!! Belong to chandigarh and am therefore 
subscribed to the list. Selling on baazee.com is farely easy. Just 
register there and post a product to sell, AFAIK.

- Sharninder

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Re: [ilugd] question

2004-06-01 Thread Sharninder
pg smh wrote:

hi there,
i have been using linux to access internet for a couple of months now. 
it works to its reputation a virus free web access. but one question 
that keeps on cropping in my mind is that if some one can write 
executable malicious codes to execute on windows platform (for eg. 
files  with *.hta extension gets hold of ur outlook)
then what keeps these guys to implement the same for linux or unix, 
i.e., is it possible to write such malicious code to execute on linux 
on a mere click or upon downloading.
i also heard of some anti viruses being offered for linux platform 
that means that there are some malicious codes being written for linux 
, do they work on same lines or they are of some other category???
please clearify

Well. You need to do some more research on how viruses operate under 
different operating system and why they are more successful under 
windows as such. Sure, viruses can be written for Linux. But, most 
viruses/worms are written to exploit vulnerabilities on windows system 
and thats why even if your browser/mail client does execute that code, 
it does'nt do any damage on windows. IMHO, windows is targeted more 
often, because of the simple fact that windows is more popular and that 
the average computer knowledge of a user using linux is far more than 
his/her windows couterparts. This combined with the fact that Linux has 
a pretty dependable permissions system helps it work to its reputation 
 a virus free web access  ... like u said :)

HTH
Sharninder

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Re: [ilugd] Re: Re: A Central CD vendor found--but there is a catch

2004-05-31 Thread Sharninder

I think instead of enforcing SLAs, we should allow buyers to leave their
feedbackon the site against each vendor. That will take care of lots of
headaches.
   

This sounds a lot like what baazee.com does. Can't we just sell through 
baazee.com and advertise that fact on the ilugd site as well as at other 
places. This would allow even out of Delhi buyers to buy from us.

Just my two cent :)
HTH,
Sharninder

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[ilugd] [OT] Linux Compatible Laptops

2004-05-11 Thread Sharninder
Hi,
I was thinking of purchasing a laptop and was basically looking for 
something which is Linux compatible (which means that the sound card, 
network card and graphics atleast should work ). Has anyone used Linux 
on a laptop before ? What all do I need to keep in mind ? Any 
recommendations ?
I was looking at Dell system mostly. Google reveals mixed results by 
users, mostly because they are using customised system and one or two 
components lack support for Linux.
Do the systems supporting Intel Centrino technology work on Linux ?
Hoping to get some useful inputs :)

Regards,
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Re: [ilugd] Linux Based Workflow System

2004-05-07 Thread Sharninder
anil bindal wrote:

Hi all,

We are considering building a Workflow system in our company based on
Linux, preferably free of cost.
Idea is to have a paperless office ( to extent possible ) based on Linux.

Could List share their comments,  suggestions, experiences, possible
solutions ?
 

I'm not sure what all features you expect of a workflow system. But 
opengroupware.org might help you out in this ..

HTH
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Re: [ilugd] Modem and Ethernet

2004-05-01 Thread Sharninder
Deepak Saun wrote:

I have PCQ2004 installed in my PC. Can you tell me whether there is
something in this distro like Microsoft Loopback Adapter in Windows 2000,
for I don't have an ethernet installed.
Further I have a Smart Link 1900 Internal Modem, which is working
very good in Windows98 and 2000, but when I tried to install same in Linux,
it is giving error. Can anyone help.
 

I don't know what the Microsoft Loopback Adapter does, but 127.0.0.1 is 
the loopback address on all systems. start networking by issuing the 
following command.

service network start

and try ping 127.0.0.1. It should work.

HTH
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Re: [ilugd] Multiple Installations of Linux

2004-04-30 Thread Sharninder
Kunal Singhal (Linux) wrote:

One small query.
I wanna install four different version of Linux on my system... Red Hat Fedora, 
Mandrake, Suse, ELX.
What I want to know is that while making the partition structure can I make a common 
partition among the above four version for
1) Swap
2) Home
3) Boot
 

hey,
A common swap partition might work, in fact I don't see any reason why 
it should'nt. As for the other two partitions, a common /boot will 
definitely not work. You need to have seperate /boot partitions for each 
distro. A common /home might just work if you have the same user 
accounts on each of the distros and their UID/GIDs are also the same, 
which is highly unlikely. I presume, that you're not a Linux expert, or 
else you would not have asked this question. I would suggest you to have 
a single swap and a single / for all the other distros, otherwise the 
number of partitions will soon become unmanageable.

HTH,
Sharninder


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Re: [ilugd] Re: Multiple Installations of Linux

2004-04-30 Thread Sharninder
Abhijit Menon-Sen wrote:

At 2004-04-30 14:06:13 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

As for the other two partitions, a common /boot will definitely not
work. You need to have seperate /boot partitions for each distro.
   

Why? I've had different kernels with different root= arguments all being
booted by the same bootloader from the same /boot partition without any
problems.
 

You're talking about different kernels but the same distro, I presume. 
Most distros have slightly differing files in /boot as well as different 
kernels so I think that would present a problem to using a single /boot 
for 4 different distros. Like I said, it can be done but it will be a 
little complicated.

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Re: [ilugd] evolution tip: LL to LL

2004-03-31 Thread Sharninder Singh
 
 any way of running these two shell scripts automatically as root
 without typing the password, but only when the user LL logs in?
 

would sudo be of any use to you ?
http://www.courtesan.com/sudo/sudo.html


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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-30 Thread Sharninder Singh
 
 1)IDE

Anjuta / Kdevelop

 2)Compilers/Interpretors

gcc / gambas (gambas.sf.net) 

 3)Databases

Can't think of any .. almost everyone has mysql / postgres. But there
are few others on freshmeat which look really promising.

 4)Documentation

the whole of tldp.org


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Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD

2004-03-30 Thread Sharninder Singh
  
   4)Documentation
  
  the whole of tldp.org
  i dont see any point in having whole of the tldp, but
 we can have documentation from tldp regarding
 devlopment and DB configuration.

Right !! I did get a bit carried away there :)

Regards,
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Re: [ilugd] Background download manager with web interface

2004-03-20 Thread Sharninder Singh
 
 Does anyone know if there is a download manager type of application
 with~ some kind of web/cli config tool ? I want to put my office
 bandwidth to use at night. Basically some app that sets up as a
 service and lets me add / check files on the web.

why not run a cron job with wget downloading the stuff. Btw, webmin has
a module which would allow you to do exactly what you want. I'm sure
there are other apps of this kind also available. If not, It would be
quite easy to write one in php/perl/whatever ...

HTH
Sharninder


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Re: [ilugd] sound problem in 2.6.2

2004-03-18 Thread Sharninder Singh
 
 while using 2.6.2 on PCQlinux2004 my CM8378 sound card doesnot work
 i checked the config file in the boot directory in comparison with
 2.4.22 config file there was no option for CM8378 in 2.6.2 config file
 
 is there anything i can do to get sound in 2.6.2
 

2.6 kernels use alsa and not the OSS sound drivers used in the earlier
kernels. You will have to configure alsa to get your sound working.
check out alsa-project.org for more info.

HTH
Sharninder


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Re: [ilugd] How to send UDP packets on certain port?

2004-03-17 Thread Sharninder Singh
  
 Can anyone tell me what command or software to use as I need to
 perform some tests by sending arbitrary packets having composition of
 my wish?
  

where do u want to send the packets to .. you might be able to use
telnet itself for the purpose. Just connect to the service as 

telnet host port and if the commands are to be sent in plaintext.
This should work. On the other hand, if you wish to send something more
complicated, writing a simple program for this should'nt be tough.

HTH
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Re: [ilugd] [Possible -OT][crosspost] Is linux miltary grade

2004-03-15 Thread Sharninder Singh
 
 The answer to that would be no, Linux is for those with IQs higher
 than 98!  and most militaries don't have such a thing ;) biggest
 oxymoronmilitary intelligence.
 

don't flame me ppl, but I think this *joke* was in bad taste. During the
time the kargil war was on, everyone was all praise for the Indian
military and look what is happening now, just a few years down the line.

Regards
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[ilugd] test ... please ignore

2004-03-14 Thread Sharninder Singh



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Re: [ilugd] Re: test ... please ignore

2004-03-14 Thread Sharninder Singh
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:16:35 +0530
Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At 2004-03-14 16:12:20 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Did we pass?
 
 No, you were supposed to ignore the message.
 

yes, You were supposed to give it a pass. Sorry, for hogging your bandwidth people, I 
was just testing if the filters I have set in my mail client (sylpheed) are working 
fine. I'm using sylpheed for the first time today.

Regards
Sharninder


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Re: [ilugd] Re: test ... please ignore

2004-03-14 Thread Sharninder Singh
 
 Or alternatively the concerned person could have just been patient for
 somebody else to mail to the list. This list is not such low activity
 that a person cannot be patient to receive a mail from it.
 
 But enough said on this. I think he gets the idea and next time he
 will not do it. Hopefully...
 

yup .. got the msg. I already said I'm sorry for hoggin your bandwidth
.. thread closed .. hopefully ..



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Re: [ilugd] [Off Topic] Hotwire connection speed

2004-03-10 Thread Sharninder Singh

 Even nowadays sometimes their bandwidth capping slips mostly really late 
 in the night, and slimy opportunists like me try to download the latest 
 Fedora/what-not isos over the night. :)
 

and what time is this *really in the night* exactly ... Just asking
generally .. I really need to download the latest KDE :)


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[ilugd] Fwd: [ilug-cal] Google Search for litigious bastards

2004-03-08 Thread Sharninder

--- Sayamindu Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Subject: [ilug-cal] Google Search for litigious
 bastards
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 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 19:55:20 +0530
 
 Try out searching for litigious bastards in google.
 See the 1st result ;-)
 Heh!!
 -sdg-
 
 
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Re: [ilugd] Re: tutorials on curses

2004-03-03 Thread Sharninder Singh
  
 
 :)) Vivek didnt realize that there was another google man on the list!
 
 ams, you now have competition! ;)
 
 - Sandip

hey ... chill ppl .. I'm sure the original poster must have got his
answer by now. This is becoming way too OT.

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Re: [ilugd] Options available for VB developers

2004-02-18 Thread Sharninder
 
 We are a firm based in Delhi who are serious of
 migrating to Linux platform from Microsoft Windows.
 I would like to know if there are any programming
 languages available in comparison to VB. 
 
 I would also like to know the cost involved in case
 we hire any C++/ Java programmer on a freelance
 basis to convert our softwares from VB.
 

I dont think you would find any source-to-source match
for VB under Linux. But if you are looking for an easy
to use Basic like language, try gambas
(www.gambas.org). It seems pretty good.
As for converting you VB programs to C++/Java, the
effort required depends on what those VB programs do
in the first place. It can be quite complicated
though. If you could be a little more specific on the
functions being performed by those VB programs, we can
tell you alternatives or rates :)

HTH
Sharninder


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[ilugd] gaim/yahoo

2004-02-15 Thread Sharninder
Hi,
I just wanted to know if anyone is using gaim (v 0.75)
to connect to the yahoo network these days. I am using
the latest version and can't connect.
How are the other linuxers on the list connecting to
yahoo these days.

Sharninder

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[ilugd] Network Setup ?

2004-01-07 Thread Sharninder
Hi,
I have a simple query. I have been looking at Linux
Based routers recently and can't seem to figure out
where they go in the network setup !! Currently, our
leased line from BSNL plugs into a Motorola leased
line modem, which is connected to a Cisco 2500 Router
through a serial connection. the cisco connects to our
network through rj-45. Now if i have to replace the
hardware router with a linux based one, can i do that
?
Basically, all router distros that i looked at wanted
two NICs but here the modem is attached to the router
through a serial connection.

Regrards
Sharninder


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Re: [ilugd] Mindmeld knowledgebase instead of FAQ

2003-09-23 Thread Sharninder Singh
 
  Rather avoid patented technology that is only available on the
  goodwill of the developers.
 
  -- Raju

 meaning . . .?


meaning that the core of Mindmeld is patent pending and not completely open.

Sharninder



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Re: [ilugd] anti virus for linux

2003-09-18 Thread Sharninder Singh

 Is Mcafee antivirus for linux is freely available for download ? if so,
pl. give me the relevant URL and oblige.


this question has been asked on the list a few times before also. Try using
clamav .. google for the URL. It is based on openantivirus.org and has a
pretty good updated database.

HTH
sharninder



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Re: [ilugd] which linux distro+release?

2003-09-15 Thread Sharninder Singh

 thanks sharminder, have already tried uname, with its various options,
only
 tells you about the linux kernel, not the linux distribution.
 under /etc/ i may find the *.release file, which only exists if it is a
red
 hat distribution. nothing of that nature for debian, therefore knoppix,
etc
 etc.
 since the general 'feel' of a distribution can be heavily customized, this
 feature becomes all the more relevant.


try using nmap. It can fingerprint the OS, though that can be fooled too !!
AFAI think, A slackware type system should be easy to identify, courtesy the
difference in the boot scripts etc. A debian type system can be figured out
by looking under /usr/local/share 
debian (and knoppix) i think keeps most of the package docs under
/usr/local/share/doc/ ... while redhat keeps them under /usr/share/doc ...
AFAIK .. as i said, if the system is really that obscure then you'll have to
rely on your instincts and check the directory structure etc. for any clues.
I would be interested in 'proper' solution to this one though !!

Sharninder



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Re: [ilugd] which linux distro+release?

2003-09-14 Thread Sharninder Singh
is the uname command of any use here ? Try looking under /etc/ for some file
named release or something ... U might also be able to peruse some info from
some of the readymade scripts that come with the distro ... looking at the
comments and all ... RPM and DEB based distros and Slackware are easily
identifiable looking at the directory structure and general *feel* of the
system. Should'nt be too difficult, though that depends on the amount of
personal customisation that the system has gone through !!

HTH
Sharninder

Cry on someone else's shoulder, I'm off-duty. - Troi


 so you see this machine, with a shell prompt inviting you to punch away.

 question:

 you know its linux. but which distribution of linux? (knoppix, redhat,
 debian, slackware, mandrake...?)

 more importantly, which release of that particular linux distribution
 (Redhat 8, PCQLinuxX.x, Knoppix 3.2, Debian Woody 3.0.0r, etc?)

 so what's the magic bash command or sequence of commands?
 have done my googling for this and thumbed through some handy reference
 books. no luck.

 ?

 LL

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[ilugd] [Slightly OT] Linux IDEs

2003-09-09 Thread Sharninder
HI All,
I have been trying to get myself to use one of the many IDEs available on
Linux and have mostly brought down my choices to between
RHIDE/Anjuta/Kdevelop. I have'nt yet been able to give RHIDE a shot because
of certain dependency problems but i am an old TurboC/C++ IDE fan and like
its clean interface anyday to any of the GUI editors so i will give it a
shot sometime soon. Anyways, thats a different story altogether.
Now, as far as GUI IDEs are concerned, Kdevelop and Anjuta both seem pretty
good. Being a Gnome fan I decided to start with Anjuta for now. The
interface seems pretty nice but one thing i have always missed (and wondered
wether it was really that difficult to implement !!) is the ability of the
IDE to refresh the side window containing the module/function list as soon
as a new function/module/variable is added to the program. I have observed
that both in Kdevelop and Anjuta one has to save the project and manually
refresh the modules window to make the newly added code to appear in the
list. This is not the case with MSVC though and as soon as function is added
it appears in the list. Why can't two of the most famous Linux IDEs do the
same ? Anjuta seemed to be much easier than MSVC in all other respects
expect this one little missing feature..
Well, I decided to explore this a little further and since I had the source
code of Anjuta, I decided to try and implement this feature myself. Now,
Since I have not written an IDE ever, for the time being i decided that i
would be a start if I was able to atleast make the modules list refresh
whenever the enter key was pressed ( I know this is not exactly wat we want,
I forgot to save the project and then refresh .. but u get the idea
basically !!). Now, combined with the ability of auto save and my own little
addition to the code, I have a simple and very very very crude way to
automatically refresh the module list. It's way too slow to be of any
practical use but it works !!
After two hours of fiddling with the code and grepping the source if I could
manage to add the above feature whats stopping the developers to add this
feature to the IDEs (This is for the first time i was looking at the source
code of Anjuta), why can't this feature be implemented in the IDE (and
properly implemeted, not my dumb implementation.)
Any comments are welcome.

Regards
Sharninder



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Re: [ilugd] Please help me

2003-08-19 Thread Sharninder


 what is this ELX and LFY stands for ? pl. give the full initials of the
same.


ELX is a linux distribution a version of which was distributed by LFY (linux
for you) in their may issue.

HTH
Sharninder


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Re: [ilugd] matlab for turbolinux

2003-08-14 Thread Sharninder
try searching at freshmeat.net for octave. Octave is the closest u'll get to
matlab on linux. btw, afaik matlab has a linux version also.


- Original Message -
From: sanjiv kapur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [ilugd] matlab for turbolinux


 hi
 i am using tubolinux and am wanting to know where can i find matlab like
gnu
 free software to work.also please reinclude me on ur mailing list.
 thanks
 sanjiv

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Re: [ilugd] help for configuring sendmail on Red Hat Linux 7.1andabove

2003-08-14 Thread Sharninder

 I use Mandrake 9.0. I have made two users. In one user I am using Gnome
and in another one KDE. For the last few days, whenever, I switchover to
Gnome, it displays a 'ximian' windows which I think is a mail server. Pl.
guide. how I can configure this. Everytime I cancel it because I don't have
the idea of configuring it.


i never got this ximian window when i used MDK9. anyways, if what u r
referring is ximian evolution then it is not an email server, but an email
client, like outlook express and configuring it is also as simple (or
difficult ... depends) as oputlook.

HTH
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Re: [ilugd] prob with installation

2003-08-01 Thread Sharninder
 actually was re installkin win xp today...but prob is...the cd i 
 have isnt bootable.. but ive hrd tht i can boot it thru sum file 

is'nt this way too OT here ..

sharninder


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Re: [ilugd] network management software

2003-07-27 Thread Sharninder
nagios .. www.nagios.org


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From: Arjun Asthana [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: [ilugd] network management software


 Hi,
 
 Is there any good L/GPLed network management software?
 
 Regards,
 Arjun
 
 
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Re: [ilugd] i'll yack

2003-07-02 Thread Sharninder

 you will be stunned to hear what i have to tell you, if you allow me to
 share
 our experiences for just 15 minutes, [okay, make that 14 minutes, 59
 seconds]
 at the next ilug-d meet on the third sunday of july.


so is this discussion for only the ilugd members residing in delhi. Can we
ppl on the mailing list who are not in delhi also listen to you.


Sharninder Singh
National Institute Of Management, Calcutta

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If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have
one idea and we exchange these ideas,
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Re: [ilugd] Memory management

2003-06-21 Thread Sharninder Singh
 let me know the reasons for this. I can send more details of the things
 that I did if u want.


the reason is that linux has better memory caching than windows. When u
start the same app again on linux it would load up from the cache and take
less time to load. This is not the case with windows.


Sharninder Singh
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