Re: [ilugd] 21 monitor in portrait mode?

2010-04-15 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Raj Mathur r...@linux-delhi.org wrote:
 In addition, the 80-character limit on code is a reasonable limit, both
 for the reason pointed out above and because length of lines of code
 varies a lot, with typical ones being short.  For instance, on analysing
 ~30,000 lines of code I'd written (not including 0-length lines and
 comments) I find the following:

 Maximum length:         129
 Minimum length:         1
 Median length:          18
 Mean length:            23
 Std deviation:          21.5 (well, you can expect that to be high)

 So looks like even if I don't wrap at 80, the median and mean line
 lengths are likely to be between 20 and 30.  Can I please have that 4:3
 monitor now? :)

Personally, I use a vertical split emacs window with Inconsolata 12pt
font on a 22 1680x1050 screen. This gives me *two* 80 col wide
windows side-by-side. Works like a charm for multi-file coding (is
there any other kind left?) and diff etc. Not to mention the
Inconcolata beauty! :-) A similar setup should work for a 21 monitor
with appropriate font point size.

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Re: [ilugd] Belenix coming in July Issue of LFY

2008-06-23 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 These are the facts as of now according to the official sources of
 Opensolaris.

 a) CDDL is an OSI approved licensed.
 b) The majority of OpenSolaris code is released under CDDL 
 (http://www.opensolaris.org/os/licensing/)
 c) At present, the OpenSolaris source base is not enough to bootstrap an
   entire system (http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/faq/general_faq/#whatis)
 d) A part of the OS is still distributed under a binary licence - code,
not firmware blobs.

 At present, Opensolaris is a+b+c which none of the Linux distros are.

 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/about/no_source/ mentions the following
 which are currently not available as source (some which are not even
 planned to be made available as source):
 * Xsun server
 * TrueType font engine for Xorg server
 * Man pages

 I leaving out some which are evidently not owned by Sun.

 Some of us believe that a+b+c is not enough to call the distro as a FOSS
 distro (it is on the way there, but not yet there). Also, please stop
 making the case that CDDL being OSI compliant makes the whole distro OSI
 compliant - even the OSI team would have serious reservations if such
 misrepresentations are made.

 Please do not make incorrect comparisons with Linux distros, where
 non-essential packages are binary only and not installed in most
 distros by default.

So let me get this straight:

(1) With Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora etc. I can install and run a 100% FOSS
system without needing any non-free binaries.
(2) For hardware etc that *requires* non-free binaries / blobs, I have
the option of *not using* that hardware, while still using the rest of
the 100% FOSS system.
(3) With OpenSolaris (at the moment at least) I need to agree to use a
non-free binary just to install the system.

Right? If so, I am happy using U, D, F, et al. without the non-free
parts, and ignoring OpenSolaris for the time being.

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Re: [ilugd] eeepc.in any users here?

2008-03-04 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 4:51 AM, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yes, but the MiLeap looks like something the Dog dragged in from the bin
  outside. And it has a keyboard from hell. It's like something designed
  by the wannabe Industrial design, who - since he didnt make the
  admission criteria for the NID, decided he'd try coal and mining
  engineering for a laugh.

Haha! Nice one Karanbir.

I had a brief look at the Eeepc [1] and MiLeap [2] some time back.
IMHO, the 7 screen is barely usable, and the keyboard does not seem
to be built for heavy use. However, for someone who needs a cheap,
ultralight laptop, maybe for presentations or as a travel companion,
these might be worth their money.

[1] http://www.flickr.com/photos/vipulmathur/tags/eeepc/
[2] http://www.flickr.com/photos/vipulmathur/tags/mileap/

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Why would someone put a TTL of 60s on a DNS record ?

2008-01-11 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Jan 11, 2008 4:55 PM, आशीष शुक्ल Ashish Shukla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just found that www.intel.com has TTL of 60s, and in my view TTL of
 60s should be suitable for records with frequently changing IPs, e.g.
 for DNS records maintained by DynDNS users who're on dynamic IPs.
 Hmm...?

Note in your dig trace that the 60s TTL is for the CNAME record
pointing www.intel.com to www.intel.com.edgesuite.net. Now
edgesuite.net is an akamai service AFAIK.

The purpose of keeping a very short TTL, as far as I see, is to
prevent downstream DNS servers from caching it for a long time
(obviously). This would typically be done if the record gets updated
frequently... but hey, akamai is known to do weirdly interesting
stuff!

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Re: [ilugd] Linux RAID issues (was) Re: Linux graphic PC!

2008-01-04 Thread Vipul Mathur
[snipping]

On Jan 4, 2008 11:25 AM, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/125471/comments/4
 (4th comment, root NOT on raid but booting into initramfs)
 How have others Linux RAID experience in recent Linux distros  been?

created raid1, hdd-crashed, failed the bad disk, array running in degraded mode.

I can't recall clearly if Feisty busyboxed me when I rebooted after
the hdd-crash. The behaviour documented in the bug seems to be crazy
from the point of view of people who do not have KVM / physical access
to their servers. I would be interested in knowing when this bug
manifested itself for the first time, maybe we should pin mdadm to the
last sane version, until this gets resolved.

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Re: [ilugd] Planet ILUGD is down?

2007-12-25 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Oct 5, 2007 2:05 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anant Narayanan wrote:
  http://planet.linux-delhi.org/ gives an empty directory index.

 Any update on this? Who is maintaining this now?

planet.linux-delhi.org is down for more than three months now. Whats up?

If a volunteer to maintain is all that is required, I am willing to maintain it.

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Re: [ilugd] western digital blocks file-sharing on networked HD

2007-12-10 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Dec 11, 2007 11:19 AM, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i hope we have a spokesperson from western digital at the feb 2008
 version of freed.in for a debate on this.
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7136069.stm

What a completely brain-dead idea. What jumps out at me most from that
article is the line The ban operates regardless of whether the files
are copy-protected, or a user's own home-produced content. What
rubbish! Why would anybody in their right minds buy such a thing?

How is their networked drive better than any other NAS solution?

Relevant comment thread from slashdot:
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=382097cid=21605217

So someone is already going to use the box as a subversion server
running Linux :D

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Re: [ilugd] AMD+Linux

2007-10-27 Thread Vipul Mathur
Hi,

On 10/28/07, Karthik Ramgopal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
 You just have to install the Nvidia proprietary binary drivers for 3D
 acceleration with the onboard Geforce 6100 graphics (To run
 compiz/beryl/compiz fusion etc also you need to do this).

I have the M2M-MX board, just watch out for this bug:
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/151168

It affects anyone using the nvidia-glx-new driver package in Ubuntu
7.10 (Gutsy). The workaround (works for me) is to increase the video
framebuffer size in BIOS to = 128MB.

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Re: [ilugd] cheap trick with multiple gmail accounts for concurrent logins

2007-09-08 Thread Vipul Mathur
On 9/8/07, Linux Lingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
 can anybody please recommend me another, and more elegant way of
 concurrently logging-in via the web to multiple gmail accounts?

I use the Gmail Notifier addon/extension for firefox. It sits in the
bottom-right of the browser and keeps checking multiple gmail accounts
on regular intervals. A counter indicates number of unread messages.
Hovering over the icon gives details.

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[ilugd] Lenovo, Novell partner to offer Linux on the ThinkPad

2007-08-06 Thread Vipul Mathur
Lenovo, Novell partner to offer Linux on the ThinkPad

By Eric Bangeman | Published: August 06, 2007 - 10:18AM CT

ThinkPad customers will soon have a new configuration option, as
Lenovo and Novell have announced that the popular laptops will begin
shipping with SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 (SLED) preinstalled.
Although the ThinkPad has been certified for Linux for some time, this
marks the first time Lenovo will ship a laptop with Linux
preinstalled—while providing both hardware and OS support. Novell will
provide software updates directly to ThinkPad owners, however.

Read more at: 
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070806-lenovo-novell-partner-to-offer-linux-on-the-thinkpad.html

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Re: [ilugd] Ubuntu Freezing on Boot

2007-08-05 Thread Vipul Mathur
Once, when you have booted, try upgrading to the latest kernel. An
apt-get update followed by apt-get install linux-image-generic should
do it.

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Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-03 Thread Vipul Mathur
On 8/3/07, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 this mania for backing up is much worse than the sin of not backing
 up at all. Usually when you lose data that has not been backed up,
 apart from the initial shock, it turns out to be a very good thing in
 the long run. So before spending that one lakh on multiTB Raid 15,
 just think: Is there no way I can replicate/reconstruct this data if
 it is lost?

You've got to be kidding. How do you replicate/reconstruct thousands
of photos taken over years, carefully categorized and tagged. Videos
taken on family vacations / stage performance by family members...
recordings of music composed by you... need I go on? Of course, not
*everything* is worth backing up, but that is up to the individual to
decide.

I would say that the need for a solid backup strategy in home setups
is about the same, if not more, than in corporate environments.

Of course the backup solution needs to be appropriate for the need, so
low-budget and technically sound solutions based on FOSS and
inexpensive storage devices is the way to go.

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Re: [ilugd] backing up large weekly data

2007-08-01 Thread Vipul Mathur
On 8/1/07, Gora Mohanty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Decent 500GB IDE drives are going for about Rs. 5K, which takes care of
 8-10 months of storage. If you really care for the data, buy two, and
 make a software RAID array out of them.

Agreed. In fact I would suggest that you make the 500GB RAID 1 setup
your primary data storage partition. This would give you protection
against a single disc (out of the two 500GB) failing. Increased read
performance will be a side effect!

You additionally require off-disk backups if you want to protect
against accidental deletion / file system corruption. rsync is the way
to go, as always.

As Gora said, to what extent you go in the backup game depends on how
paranoid you are about your data.

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Re: [ilugd] Explanation

2006-10-29 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 05:57:39AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On 23-Oct-06, at 11:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  All your base are belong to Tux
  It means: You have no chance to survive make your time.
 explanation is more obscure than the question ;-) It means tux has  
 conquered you

Somebody set up us the tux. ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Wing_%28translations%29

PS: Yes, I still lurk here, occasionally :-)

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Re: [ilugd] TV streaming over LAN

2005-12-02 Thread Vipul Mathur

On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 12:28:13AM +0530, Vipin Jose wrote:
 I am a BTech CSE student and am planning to take up a TV Streaming
 over LAN (ethernet) for major project.

Take a look at the ffserver and ffmpeg packages. I use them for TV
streaming (multiple clients) on our LAN.

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Re: [ilugd] Want to Learn

2005-02-05 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 12:32:48PM -, rahul  agarwal wrote:
 I m a student of MCA I want to know that of what type a project
 is in Linux And from where I can get some offline projects so
 that I can work upon... Do send me some links

Great, so setup a linux box for yourself and get started already!  You
will find oodles of projects to build-upon and contribute-to at places
like:

http://www.freshmeat.net/
http://www.sourceforge.net/
http://savannah.gnu.org/
http://sarovar.org/

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] ILUGD blogs site

2004-10-26 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 04:12:23AM +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
 Just some light hearted fodder for ILUGD members feeling bored at some time 
  ... and helping them catch up with their comrades.
 http://blogs.lug-delhi.org

Cool! Thanks Sandip.

 Your site needs to have rss export options. Till Drupal 4.5 has atom 
 support, blogs.lug-delhi.org cant collect atom exports. This will probably 
 cut off Livejournal users (I couldnt spot a RSS link in its pages).

LiveJournal has both RSS (2.0) and atom feeds available for all users.
For example, the feeds of my LJ are at: 

http://www.livejournal.com/users/vipul/data/rss
http://www.livejournal.com/users/vipul/data/atom

Read this FAQ for details:
http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=149

Hey nice work with lug-delhi.org sandeep!

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Re: [ilugd] Re: further notes on being a victim of smtp server ban

2004-07-28 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 09:19:42AM +0530, mary wrote:
 In the long run however - we would need some kind of free mail access - 
 where we can send mail via smtp and retrieve via imap/etc - I am trying
 to talk to few people to get this done - lets hope :-)

This has been on my dream-list for long. What does our group think about
the idea of a contributary, co-located server for members (and others
who would like to join)? Some thing like by-us for-us. We configure and
run it so we can have all the services we want running on it. The most
immediate need is for smtp-auth. I, for one, am willing to invest my
time in maintaining/setting it up, and (a humble amount) of money to
keep it going.

In order to work, an idea like this would need people enthu enough to
contribute and use it and perhaps a few generous sponsors.

What say you?

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Re: [ilugd] Looking for a good AMD board for Linux

2004-07-06 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 10:57:09AM +0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
 - Integrated S3 Graphics Unichrome 2d/3d

I have the same graphics chip in a machine here. The drivers that are included
with most common distributions don't work or are not included at all. X.org's
X11 has full support for this chip though (as compared to XFree86). But till
such time as X.org is integrated with a distribution, you will either have to
get it and compile it yourself or stick with a basic vesa driver.

Other hardware components should not be a problem at all.

PS: I use Debian Sid (a.k.a unstable)

 More Details at: 
 http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=558

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Re: [ilugd] Looking for a good AMD board for Linux

2004-07-06 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Tue, Jul 06, 2004 at 03:33:59PM +0800, Arindam Dey wrote:
 Errm, X.org is default with FC2 already.

Oh it is! looks around Oops sorry, my bad then :D

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Re: [ilugd] SMP kernel top command

2004-07-05 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Mon, Jul 05, 2004 at 02:29:35PM +0530, Yashpal Nagar wrote:
 I am using Redhat 8.0, smp kernel image on a HP Proliant 4 CPUs server,
 installation done smoothly. BIOS show me 2.2 Ghz 4 CPUs fine as
 intended  installed.
 But when i see top command in linux it show me 8 CPUs, ranging from CPU0
 to CPU8.
[snip] 
 Any pointers?

Are these CPUs of the hyper-treading variety? A single HT CPU shows up as
two CPUs in Linux.

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Re: [ilugd] distro choice

2004-07-03 Thread Vipul Mathur
Hi LL,

On Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 12:01:31AM +0530, Linux Linugam wrote:
 *before* we get into a distro-war, this is simple, i am considering a
 few more distros in different partitions of my pc.
 so one is debian [okay, 90% of you can relax on that send button]
 what about suse? are there any suse in the production pc users here?
 any other recommendations?

If not Debian Sid, then SuSE. Have heard good reports from die-hard
Slackware users... but going there is entirely up to you :-)

I'd say, if you can handle (a question of bandwidth) the dist-upgrades
of Debian Sid (a.k.a unstable) then go with that. Atleast try it on one
of the heads of ravana ;-) I have been a full-time user of Debian Sid for
over two years now and don't find any reason to look anywhere else. (Note
that this is entirely an issue of my preferences.)

I have also been using and maintaining a couple of SuSE systems. Started
with 7.3 and am currently at 9.1. There is a good reason that SuSE is the
preferred distribution for a large section of users. If you like tight
integration, seamless updates, graphical setup and config tools (SuSE's YaST2
is the best I have seen in that category) and a wide variety of packaged
software, then SuSE is worth it. I have had very few sour experiances with
SuSE.

Hope this helps.

BTW: What does ravana look like these days in terms of head-occupancy? And
when did you start hacking on bluetooth!?

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[ilugd] An interview with Martin Michlmayr

2004-06-26 Thread Vipul Mathur
An interview with Martin Michlmayr, the leader of the Debian Project:
http://www.pctechtalk.com/view.php?id=3230

quote
tb: Why is the latest stable version of Debian outdated? And why is this
idea with several releases? Any purpose to announce outdated versions as
stable and currently usable as unstable/testing?
MM: Debian has traditionally had very slow release cycles. One reason for
this is that Debian has often been used for servers. As it is being used
increasingly for desktops, our release cycle is not adequate anymore. We
know about this and are working on implementing faster release cycles
which will meet the needs of server and desktop users. Another reason why
Debian is often slow with release is that our system is very large. We 
have more than 10,000 packages and support 11 architectures. However, we
are working on solutions which will allow faster release cycles. In this
process, we are moving away from a feature based to a time based release.
This will ensure predictable releases.
/quote

Debian moving to a time based release cycle! Now *that* is what I call
news! Has anyone else heard anything about this?

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Re: [ilugd] Distribution CDs for Red Hat 9 Linux distribution available :)

2004-03-25 Thread Vipul Mathur
Hi Sandip,

Long time no C ( by me ;-) )

Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
[snip]
Whenever a distribution ISO is offered for download, the ISO creators 
also include an MD5SUM checksum for people to verify both the 
authenticity and integrity of the image. This is a check against:
1. Somebody distributing malware in the name of the original CD
2. Problems in the download which can corrupt the CD image.
[snip]
Now the problem is that the whole process of copying of CDs from one 
media to another, introduces artifacts in the image which cause the CD 
image to start differing from the original downloadable image. The 
results show in wildly different md5sums of the first generation and 
second generation copies.
[snip]
So a volunteer CD distributor like me have no way to find out whether a 
difference in Md5sum is because the image is corrupted or because the 
copying process modified the image in some harmless way.
Have faced this problem many times before. I solved it by rsyncing the 
.iso dump to the original .iso file on a known authentic server, 
whenever I extracted it from a CD with tools such as dd or cdrdao.

Works peacefully!

For the uninitiated, rsync is used here to download only the 
difference bytes between the remote (correct) .iso image and the local 
(damaged) .iso dump.

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Re: [ilugd] font rendering

2004-03-21 Thread Vipul Mathur
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 04:22:06PM +0530, LinuxLingam wrote:
 could someone please try out this sub-pixel rendering, especially on
 fonts less than 9 points, and bigger than 96 points, and share with us
 the results?

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't sub-pixel rendering supposed to make a
difference only on LCD displays?

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Re: [ilugd] apt-get

2004-03-13 Thread Vipul Mathur
LinuxLingam wrote:
am trying to upgrade the qt on my installation.
so, i run 
# apt-get upgrade qt
i get a list of packages with unmet dependencies. these packages have
nothing to do with qt and i don't want apt-get to touch them. i just
want apt-get to upgrade qt with all its directly relevant files.
what's the way out of this dep-hell madness?
Do # apt-get install qt

That will make sure qt is the newest version available.

apt-get upgrade tells apt to upgrade all installed packages to the 
newest ones available. :-)

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Re: [ilugd] apt-get

2004-03-13 Thread Vipul Mathur
LinuxLingam wrote:
Do # apt-get install qt
That will make sure qt is the newest version available.
hmmm.. does not solve the problem, see below for output.
how to resolve this?
# apt-get install qt
[snip]

E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or
specify a solution).
apt-get usually makes sensible suggestions :-)
# apt-get -f install
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Re: [ilugd] [long] top posting, thread hijacking and other evils

2004-03-03 Thread Vipul Mathur
 replies are very hard to find at the
bottom of a long (15 lines) message.
A variation of this form of quoting is where the reply is included below
the message, while all signatures are left below the reply.  This serves
the added purpose of increasing the cruft at the bottom of the thread.
* Interleave posted replies

In this case, replies are interleaved with the original message, so for
instance, a message that contains three points, would have the reply
split into three portions, each included immediately after the relevant
point.
In this case, the person replying must take the effort to separate out
points, deleting irrelevant lines, and in some cases summarising ideas.
It is perhaps for this reason that most people choose not to employ this
method.
On the plus side, anyone joining the thread late, or reading a single
message on the mailing list archives will have the entire thread in
front of him, with each question answered immediately below.  Trimming
of content helps keep the signal to noise ratio (S/N) high.
Interleaving is most useful when used in conjunction with trimming of
content and summarisation.
The variation found with bottom posted replies is also found with
interleaved replies, and reduces the S/N ratio somewhat.
* Closing remarks

This article isn't meant to tell people what quoting style they should
use, but merely to state the pros and cons (according to me at least) of
each method.  You may choose for yourself.
I've tried to cover all points that have been brought up in the past.
If I've missed anything out, feel free to add to this.  I have not,
however, gone deeply into the details, but the reader may refer to the
list of links later on in this message.
Also note that this is *not* a poll.  I am not soliciting comments on
which quoting style is better.
* Further reading

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html
   to the point
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/gey_stv0.htm
   excuse the background colour
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/gey_chr0.htm
   top posting and blind users (and yes, excuse the background colour)
http://mailformat.dan.info/quoting/top-posting.html
   talks about top posting
http://mailformat.dan.info/quoting/bottom-posting.html
   and bottom posting
http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
   perhaps a little fanatical, but a few good points
Also check google for quoting mail and news

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[ilugd] Re: Possible additional feature for the list

2004-02-18 Thread Vipul Mathur
amit soni [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Is it not possible to have a forum + email list ?
 I mean instead of storing the archives like archives if they can be pushed
 to a forum (which I guess are easily indexed in search engines)?

It seems people are not listening... or maybe someone should speak louder ;-)

GO TO http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi PLEASE

Sincerely, how many of us have actually been using gmane? If the reasons for
having a forum are those I quoted above, then gmane has been serving our purpose
for many months now.

Anyone around remember that linux-delhi actually tried a full php-nuke at some
point in time? The nuke fizzled out.

BTW: I am posting this from gmane.org itself. Please everyone take a look at it
before carrying this forum thing further...

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Re: [ilugd] Information needed about Debian Sarge

2004-01-30 Thread Vipul Mathur
Hi Sandip!

Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
Aaargh! You expect me to do a complete upgrade over network? I dont live 
in US dude! What about in amchi Dilli!
I have been using Debian unstable full-time since July now and am 
extremely happy with it! Agreed that here I've very few download 
constraints--sitting on 5 2Mbps lines :-D

I do a apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade daily to stay on the 
bleeding edge. I tried this as an experiment first to see how often 
things break. They do break but not very often. I would say that 
unstable is the most updated gnu/linux distribution I have used, 
provided you have a means to keep up with the updates.

It is recommended that you run stable as you are most likely to get
support for it from debian peers. Testing is also supported. but if you
No. Testing is for me .. even though the Debian site make ominous 
statements that even the testing doesnt have support.
True there are no security updates for testing or unstable, but that 
is just because they upgrade the packages themselves to a higeher 
version rather than backporting a security patch like in stable.

Stable is THE way to go for servers where you may not need bleeding edge 
stuff, but IMHO unstable is the one cut out for desktops (atleast for 
people like us ;-)

Any clue as to which year in this millenium, the sarge is going to be 
stable? ;)
Who knows? ;-)

Okay I have tried and tested an alternate installation strategy and it 
works great. I get the latest knoppix CD (knoppix = debian 
testing/unstable + some important stuff from experimental and elsewhere, 
like XFree86 4.3...). Then I install knoppix to the hard disk using the 
knopix-install script. This gives us a packed (rather heavily so) 
desktop with everything you want in it!

Then I just edit the /etc/apt/sources.list to point to unstable and do a 
apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. The first time requires a bit of 
fighting but after that its smooth sailing. I agree that this gives a 
bulky installation with stuff you may never need... so its your choice 
whether you want to go from bare-bones to what you want (traditional 
woody-sid way) or thin-down a bulky install to what you want 
(knoppix-sid way).

PS: So what are you up to these days? I miss being in Delhi :-(

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Re: [ilugd] network not reachable

2003-12-09 Thread Vipul Mathur
Ajit Ranade wrote:

[snip]

however when i ping, i get a correct name -- IP number transation, but get
a message network is unreachable. ifconfig shows eth0 is up, and netstat
shows network is up. so i think the network is unreachable, because ping
(and also apt-get) is unable to get through the proxy server. same fate for
fetchmail.
Post the output of /sbin/route -n

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[ilugd] Update on Debian.org servers

2003-12-02 Thread Vipul Mathur
A post on debian-security-announce finally talks about the post-mortem 
of the recent server compromises.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/debian-security-announce-2003/msg00212.html

Here is the abstract:

Recently multiple servers of the Debian project were compromised using a
Debian developers account and an unknown root exploit. Forensics
revealed a burneye encrypted exploit. Robert van der Meulen managed to
decrypt the binary which revealed a kernel exploit. Study of the exploit
by the RedHat and SuSE kernel and security teams quickly revealed that
the exploit used an integer overflow in the brk system call. Using
this bug it is possible for a userland program to trick the kernel into
giving access to the full kernel address space. This problem was found
in September by Andrew Morton, but unfortunately that was too late for
the 2.4.22 kernel release.
This bug has been fixed in kernel version 2.4.23 for the 2.4 tree and
2.6.0-test6 kernel tree. For Debian it has been fixed in version
2.4.18-12 of the kernel source packages, version 2.4.18-14 of the i386
kernel images and version 2.4.18-11 of the alpha kernel images.
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