Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-09-01 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Raju Mathur said on Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 08:03:23AM +0530,:

  Have found only one so far: SIM Toolkit.

AFAICT, this is not an Android built in app. If you want to check, put
the phone in Airplane mode, and see if that appears in the list of
apps.

  Time to root the phone and uninstall the cr*p, I guess.

Anytime is fine to root the phone. Just make sure that you are
thorough with recovery procedures, in case things go wrong. 

Rooting by itself does not guarantee ability ot uninstall
bloatware. You need to install a custom recovery app (like clockwork
mod), which will in turn allow you to flash ROM from the SD card. 



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Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-09-01 Thread Mehul Ved
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Mahesh T. Pai paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Rooting by itself does not guarantee ability ot uninstall
 bloatware. You need to install a custom recovery app (like clockwork
 mod), which will in turn allow you to flash ROM from the SD card.

If I am not wrong, you can remove system apps through titanium backup
once you have root(and installed busybox).

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Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-09-01 Thread Anupam Jain
2011/9/1 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org

 snip

Time to root the phone and uninstall the cr*p, I guess.


Do let the android list know how that goes!

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Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-08-31 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Monday 29 Aug 2011, Mehul Ved wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, abhishek jain
 
 abhishek.netj...@gmail.com wrote:
  there is no way to check usage until the bill is handed over.
 
 Where there are enough software tools available on android to measure
 and warn you about your data usage, free as well as paid. I prefer 3G
 Watchdog
 https://market.android.com/details?id=net.rgruet.android.g3watchdog

I'm using Traffic Counter, which is free (only as in free beer, 
unfortunately), and the base version shows you traffic by application.  
The primary objective was to figure out which built-in Android 
applications were talking to the 'net behind my back (yes, it's terrible 
to be paranoid but if /they/ were after you, you'd be paranoid too!)  
Have found only one so far: SIM Toolkit.

Time to root the phone and uninstall the cr*p, I guess.

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-08-28 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
abhishek jain said on Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:26:44AM +0530,:

  Beware of 3G plans, i bought a 100MB plan from airtel, i mistakenly
  used 196 MB, i was charged Rs. 100 for first 100MB and 1400 for
  next 96 MB and more so they dont alert on overuse :( , there is no
  way to check usage until the bill is handed over.

!dea is keeping on warning me about my data usage (2g) till previous
day evening



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Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-08-28 Thread Mehul Ved
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, abhishek jain
abhishek.netj...@gmail.com wrote:
 there is no way to check usage until the bill is handed over.

Where there are enough software tools available on android to measure
and warn you about your data usage, free as well as paid. I prefer 3G
Watchdog https://market.android.com/details?id=net.rgruet.android.g3watchdog


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Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-08-27 Thread Kishore Bhargava

On 26/08/11 20:21, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote:

Hi,

Having purchased an Android phone, thought an India-specific Android
mailing list wouldn't be a bad idea.  So whether you're an Android user,
hacker, developer or just curious, hop over to:

   mailto:indroid-requ...@lists.linux-delhi.org?subject=subscribe

For the moment, anything Android-related goes.

Warning: the initial month is likely to be filled with yours truly
asking tons of newbie Android questions!



While I get around to subsrcibing, tell me in the meantime, what phone 
did you finally get?


Cheers...Kishore
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Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-08-27 Thread abhishek jain
, has the added feature of letting you actually

 make and receive calls

(which seems to be low on the priority list for
 phone manufacturers nowadays)!


may be because the call rates have dropped and  VAS bill is larger than the
phone call bill (at least for me).

thanks
abhi
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Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-08-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Sunday 28 Aug 2011, abhishek jain wrote:
 may be because the call rates have dropped and  VAS bill is larger
 than the phone call bill (at least for me).

Heh, so true.  OTOH, after finally inserting the SIM into this phone 
(which took two days due to sheer laziness in transferring contacts from 
the old phone to the new) I was pleasantly surprised to get a message 
about 6 months of free 3G (1GB pm) from Vodafone.  They probably think 
that the user will get so used to 3G that s/he will not want to give it 
up after the trial period, little knowing that cheap ol' me will leech 
their 6 free GB and then happily revert to Edge unless some provider 
comes out with a reasonably-priced 3G plan!

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-08-27 Thread abhishek jain
(which took two days due to sheer laziness in transferring contacts from
 the old phone to the new) I was pleasantly surprised to get a message
 about 6 months of free 3G (1GB pm) from Vodafone.

Beware of 3G plans, i bought a 100MB plan from airtel, i mistakenly used 196
MB, i was charged Rs. 100 for first 100MB and 1400 for next 96 MB
and more so they dont alert on overuse :( , there is no way to check usage
until the bill is handed over.

thanks
abhishek
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Re: [ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-08-27 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Sunday 28 Aug 2011, abhishek jain wrote:
 Beware of 3G plans, i bought a 100MB plan from airtel, i mistakenly
 used 196 MB, i was charged Rs. 100 for first 100MB and 1400 for next
 96 MB and more so they dont alert on overuse :( , there is no way to
 check usage until the bill is handed over.

Ouch!  There's probably something you can do at the Consumer Court level 
about that.  Sudev would be the right person to advise.

Regards,

-- Raj
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[ilugd] [ANNOUNCE] Android-India mailing list

2011-08-26 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
Hi,

Having purchased an Android phone, thought an India-specific Android 
mailing list wouldn't be a bad idea.  So whether you're an Android user, 
hacker, developer or just curious, hop over to:

  mailto:indroid-requ...@lists.linux-delhi.org?subject=subscribe

For the moment, anything Android-related goes.

Warning: the initial month is likely to be filled with yours truly 
asking tons of newbie Android questions!

Regards,

-- Raj
-- 
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   GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5  0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F
PsyTrance  Chill: http://schizoid.in/   ||   It is the mind that moves

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