Re: [ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011

2010-12-30 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Pratul Kalia said on Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 03:30:53PM +0530,:

   But using Windows for showing pdf presentation is not acceptable.
   What I suggest you to make a demo in video format which can be used in
   Linux...
  
  This is what I am against. Promoting one thing is different from using
  it as a tool.

I do not quite get point of this thread.

What is it there requiring use of non-free (as in freedom)
applications for promoting freedom? If you cannot practise what you
preach, you are hypocrite.

I know those are harsh words, but 


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[ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011

2010-12-29 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
Date : 16 Jan 2011 {Sunday}
Time : 1 pm to  6pm
Venue : To be decided.
I request IIT Delhi guys like Alok  Arul  Abhishek to start working on
booking the room/seminar hall as This can be done in IITDelhi. in Last
discussion everybody talked about IITD/JNU etc.
IF there are good venue like Vkendra or Vkendra is ready to give another
venue then, Lets do it.

Fees : FREE of COST 


Purpose : Same as previous. Talk , Discuss, Participate, Present, Show your
current work and involvement in FOSS. not a fix guidelines but it is open.
Infact parallel room should be available for those who just want to see face
and discuss or just a social gathering.
ADD, modify the purpose guidelines.

Restriction of Meetup :
* Do not promote non-free, non-foss
* Do not promote non-standards aka close standards
* Do not promote software patents
* Do not promote DRM
* I request you not to have debate or flamewar on these restrictions.
Because these guidelines says you can bring you MAC PC or nokia mobile, but
you cannot says, USE this as a speaker..
* NO debate for this section.



Talks :
1) Please select your topic of presentation or discussion or sharing. It can
be anything like if you install GNU/Linux and what he felt and how you fix
problem or just a share like I went to this ATM and that is Linux based Or
your college project where other can put expert comments Or just what you
would like to tell.

You have good amount of time, appx 15-20 days, Please prepare and make a
good presentation and let other also do same and have a another successful
meetup.


Facebook page - not a compulsion, but you may RSVP if you are attending,
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=176363505731852
You can create event page on other social medium too.

Suggestions :
  +Please put your 'constructive' suggestions ! Thanks  +

Pics of previous meetup -

http://lug-iitd.posterous.com/pics-of-delhi-foss-geek-meetup-26-dec-2010
http://lug-iitd.posterous.com/post-event-photos-of-evening-hangout-and-soci
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Re: [ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011

2010-12-29 Thread Pratul Kalia
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:
 Restriction of Meetup :
 * Do not promote non-free, non-foss
 * Do not promote non-standards aka close standards
 * Do not promote software patents
 * Do not promote DRM
 * I request you not to have debate or flamewar on these restrictions.
 Because these guidelines says you can bring you MAC PC or nokia mobile, but
 you cannot says, USE this as a speaker..
 * NO debate for this section.


Even though you requested a no debate, I will still say this. I
digress. Some of my favorite open source projects are on OS X. IMHO
there should be no restriction on the platform being used. Open source
has nothing to do with choice of platform or programming language.

If that's the case, let's disallow all FOSS contributions coming in
from people using a closed system. Makes no sense, right?


Regards
Pratul

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Re: [ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011

2010-12-29 Thread Nandeep Mali
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:
[...]
 Yes, I never said, you cannot show those code, even I am agree with Windows
 application which are application , Use any platform
 1) but in demo, you cannot promote non-free things. like windows mac etc
 2) We will try our best to recompile the app on Linux platform.
 But using Windows for showing pdf presentation is not acceptable.

Why??? What if I am using Openoffice on Windows or Mac?

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Re: [ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011

2010-12-29 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Narendra Sisodiya 
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:



 On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Pratul Kalia pra...@pratul.in wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
 naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:
  Restriction of Meetup :
  * Do not promote non-free, non-foss
  * Do not promote non-standards aka close standards
  * Do not promote software patents
  * Do not promote DRM
  * I request you not to have debate or flamewar on these restrictions.
  Because these guidelines says you can bring you MAC PC or nokia mobile,
 but
  you cannot says, USE this as a speaker..
  * NO debate for this section.
 

 Even though you requested a no debate, I will still say this. I
 digress. Some of my favorite open source projects are on OS X.


 Yes, I never said, you cannot show those code, even I am agree with Windows
 application which are


read it as , which are FOSS


 application , Use any platform


You can show your FOSS work on any platform but Laptop which is going to be
connected with Projector must be having Linux distro on it. I do not know
how you manage it.
You can still Show pdf/odp files, video files etc for demo.
Purpose of meetup and showing your work will be solved using Linux distro
connected to Projector.
But as a Strict rule, MAC and Windows Laptop/PC cannot be connected to
Projector.




 1) but in demo, you cannot promote non-free things. like windows mac etc
 2) We will try our best to recompile the app on Linux platform.
 But using Windows for showing pdf presentation is not acceptable.

 What I suggest you to make a demo in video format which can be used in
 Linux...
 Agains, this is not the exact guidelines, we need to work and follow best
 thing.




 IMHO
 there should be no restriction on the platform being used. Open source
 has nothing to do with choice of platform or programming language.

 If that's the case, let's disallow all FOSS contributions coming in
 from people using a closed system. Makes no sense, right?


 Regards
 Pratul


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Re: [ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011

2010-12-29 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
 naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:
 [...]
  Yes, I never said, you cannot show those code, even I am agree with
 Windows
  application which are application , Use any platform
  1) but in demo, you cannot promote non-free things. like windows mac etc
  2) We will try our best to recompile the app on Linux platform.
  But using Windows for showing pdf presentation is not acceptable.

 Why??? What if I am using Openoffice on Windows or Mac?


But OOO is available in Linux too. While meetup, one dedicated Laptop will
be connected to Projector which will be having all the software you need.

I think that is good enough.. What you says ?

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Re: [ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011

2010-12-29 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Nandeep Mali n9986.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Pratul Kalia pra...@pratul.in wrote:
 [...]
  Even though you requested a no debate, I will still say this. I
  digress. Some of my favorite open source projects are on OS X. IMHO
  there should be no restriction on the platform being used. Open source
  has nothing to do with choice of platform or programming language.
 
  If that's the case, let's disallow all FOSS contributions coming in
  from people using a closed system. Makes no sense, right?

 Correcto. Then we should stop using Acer/HP/Dell and all other laptops
 who don't release the schematics of their motherboard/hardware. Let us
 stop using HTC/Nokia/Samsung/LG whose mobile phone schematics are not
 released. Heck, I can't use my watch then. XD


There are two things..
1) something we can  !
2) something we should

should include many things which need to be done.


 Also, I am not sure why mention the city at all.

 Instead of Delhi/NCR/Bikaner Geek Meetup why can't it be FOSS Geek
 Meetup in Delhi?


Aha, Good one.. Lets other vote for this.. we can use this too..




 All in all, why does anything matter at all?

 Let just meet and let us all show off our work to each other and be geeky?
 :'(


+1+1+1+1
We would love to hear your recent work what you have done with Arduino and
that LCD screen :) I love that project.


 Not so happy Regards
 n9986




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Re: [ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011

2010-12-29 Thread Pratul Kalia
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:
 1) but in demo, you cannot promote non-free things. like windows mac etc

Agree with this.

 2) We will try our best to recompile the app on Linux platform.

You can't possibly do that. Forget it.

 But using Windows for showing pdf presentation is not acceptable.
 What I suggest you to make a demo in video format which can be used in
 Linux...

This is what I am against. Promoting one thing is different from using
it as a tool.

 Agains, this is not the exact guidelines, we need to work and follow best
 thing.

The best thing is to not think too much about this. Meet up, talk,
work, have fun. If you start getting specific, you'll have a tough
time charting everything out.


That's all I have to say.
Thanks
Pratul

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Re: [ilugd] Delhi/NCR FOSS Geek meetup - 16 Jan 2011

2010-12-29 Thread Narendra Sisodiya
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Pratul Kalia pra...@pratul.in wrote:

 On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Narendra Sisodiya
 naren...@narendrasisodiya.com wrote:
  1) but in demo, you cannot promote non-free things. like windows mac etc

 Agree with this.

  2) We will try our best to recompile the app on Linux platform.

 You can't possibly do that. Forget it.

  But using Windows for showing pdf presentation is not acceptable.
  What I suggest you to make a demo in video format which can be used in
  Linux...

 This is what I am against. Promoting one thing is different from using
 it as a tool.


India is the only country where some geek meetup takeplace with showing
windows and doc presentations says use OpenSource
we , we all do not want such type of meetup in Delhi...
Things can be avoided...
We will solve these problems when they will come but as of now, we can
atleast agree for
promotion of non-free stuff, non-standards, sw patents, DRM are
restricted...
laptop which we will connect to Projector will be containing GNU/Linux
Distro



  Agains, this is not the exact guidelines, we need to work and follow best
  thing.

 The best thing is to not think too much about this. Meet up, talk,
 work, have fun. If you start getting specific, you'll have a tough
 time charting everything out.
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