Re: [efloraofindia:115567] Pelatantheria insectifera

2012-05-04 Thread Pankaj Oudhia
Congratulations for academic contribution.

In Jharkhand one of its names popular among the Healers is Motan Jadi
(Dinesh ji it is for you) and popularly it is added in Dhawai (Woodfordia)
based formulations.

It is also used in Gulbakawali and Maidani Bakuchi based Formulations for
herb toxicity.

Few weeks back I received its fresh and dry samples from Haridwar from Some
Swami ji of National TV for comments. It is not in commercial trade from UP
but the herb traders of Saharanpur and other areas claim that they supply
it to the Tantriks for Vasikaran Rituals. It is also available with the
Faith Healers of Jim Corbett Park region.

If interested I can forward the local names of this species in study area.

regards

Pankaj Oudhia



On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Please find one of our recent publications attached with the mail.
 Regards
 Pankaj




Re: [efloraofindia:115568] Pelatantheria insectifera

2012-05-04 Thread Dinesh Valke
Many thanks Pankaj ji.
Will put this name information into my notes - thank you.
Regards.
Dinesh



On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote:

 Congratulations for academic contribution.

 In Jharkhand one of its names popular among the Healers is Motan Jadi
 (Dinesh ji it is for you) and popularly it is added in Dhawai (Woodfordia)
 based formulations.

 It is also used in Gulbakawali and Maidani Bakuchi based Formulations for
 herb toxicity.

 Few weeks back I received its fresh and dry samples from Haridwar from
 Some Swami ji of National TV for comments. It is not in commercial trade
 from UP but the herb traders of Saharanpur and other areas claim that they
 supply it to the Tantriks for Vasikaran Rituals. It is also available with
 the Faith Healers of Jim Corbett Park region.

 If interested I can forward the local names of this species in study area.

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia



 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Please find one of our recent publications attached with the mail.
 Regards
 Pankaj





[efloraofindia:115570] Re: Is it Ipomoea alba

2012-05-04 Thread Ron_Convolvulaceae
Hello,

 The plant is Rivea hypocrateriformis in my opinion because my 
reference photos of Ipomoea violaceae show the stamens rarely if ever 
protrude beyond the tube but most of my reference photos of Rivea 
hypocraterifomis show the stamens ( not very far but ) *very visibly*exerted 
beyond the tube.

I hope that helps,

Regards,

Ron


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Re: [efloraofindia:115570] Arunachal Climber for ID_RKC02_260811

2012-05-04 Thread kamasani narasimhareddy
Please check with Anamirta

Regards
K.N. Reddy
Research Scientist


On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 I can go with *Stephania*, as Pankaj Ji have suggested...


 --
 Regards,

 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227




Re: [efloraofindia:115571] Shrub for identification 220412MK03

2012-05-04 Thread Muthu Karthick
Many thanks Mahadeswaraji.

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM, jmgarg1 jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 A reply from Mahadeswara ji:
 For me  the plant looks like  *Violet Churcu. Iochroma cyaneum*.
   There are many varieties.   You may need to check the variety

  On 3 May 2012 15:09, jmgarg1 jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

  Forwarding again for Id assistance please.


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Muthu Karthick, N nmk@gmail.com
 Date: 22 April 2012 17:53
 Subject: [efloraofindia:114240] Shrub for identification 220412MK03
 To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 Dear all ,
 I saw this shrub planted as ornamental in a street of Ooty, Nilgiris, TN.
 Could this be Scrophulariaceae?

 Date: 19 Sep 2011
 Altitude: 2000 M ASL

 Height of Shrub: 3 metres
 Leaf: c. 15cm long
 Flower: c. 5 x 0.8 cm

 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xhuiY2s7vK0/T5P3hB6AeDI/AZg/SLr4WH4GKig/s1600/IMG_9167.JPG




 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JoGlYfVnZEI/T5P3qrI2xZI/AZs/u2wYj_CVJgg/s1600/IMG_9166.JPG



 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BhksY6Y2-yA/T5P30OqignI/AZ4/cSewOVYHO38/s1600/IMG_9165.JPG



 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-29pmHBw2n3c/T5P3-b_mUuI/AaE/orZNQ4McKac/s1600/IMG_9164.JPG








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 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora  Fauna'
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 eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
 alphabetically  place-wise):
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
 them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
 For identification, learning, discussion  documentation of Indian Flora,
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Re: [efloraofindia:115572] Shrub for identification 220412MK03

2012-05-04 Thread Muthu Karthick
Could this be *Iochroma coccinea* Scheid. of Solanaceae.

for picture reference: http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/violet_churcu.htm

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote:

 Many thanks Mahadeswaraji.


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:51 AM, jmgarg1 jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 A reply from Mahadeswara ji:
 For me  the plant looks like  *Violet Churcu. Iochroma cyaneum*.
   There are many varieties.   You may need to check the variety

  On 3 May 2012 15:09, jmgarg1 jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

  Forwarding again for Id assistance please.


 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Muthu Karthick, N nmk@gmail.com
 Date: 22 April 2012 17:53
 Subject: [efloraofindia:114240] Shrub for identification 220412MK03
 To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


 Dear all ,
 I saw this shrub planted as ornamental in a street of Ooty, Nilgiris,
 TN. Could this be Scrophulariaceae?

 Date: 19 Sep 2011
 Altitude: 2000 M ASL

 Height of Shrub: 3 metres
 Leaf: c. 15cm long
 Flower: c. 5 x 0.8 cm

 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-xhuiY2s7vK0/T5P3hB6AeDI/AZg/SLr4WH4GKig/s1600/IMG_9167.JPG




 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-JoGlYfVnZEI/T5P3qrI2xZI/AZs/u2wYj_CVJgg/s1600/IMG_9166.JPG



 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BhksY6Y2-yA/T5P30OqignI/AZ4/cSewOVYHO38/s1600/IMG_9165.JPG



 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-29pmHBw2n3c/T5P3-b_mUuI/AaE/orZNQ4McKac/s1600/IMG_9164.JPG








 --
 With regards,
 J.M.Garg
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora  Fauna'
 The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* 
 eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
 alphabetically  place-wise):
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
 them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
 For identification, learning, discussion  documentation of Indian
 Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
 http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1860 members
  1,15,000 messages on 30/4/12) or Efloraofindia website:
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database
 of more than 6500 species).
  Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata  Common Birds of
 India'.




 --
 With regards,
 J.M.Garg
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora  Fauna'
 The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* 
 eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
 alphabetically  place-wise):
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
 them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
 For identification, learning, discussion  documentation of Indian Flora,
 please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
 http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1860 members 
 1,15,000 messages on 30/4/12) or Efloraofindia website:
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database
 of more than 6500 species).
 Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata  Common Birds of
 India'.




 --
 Muthu Karthick, N
 Care Earth Trust
 #15, second main road,
 Thillai ganga nagar,
 Chennai - 600 061
 Mob: 0091 96268 33911
 www.careearthtrust.org




-- 
Muthu Karthick, N
Care Earth Trust
#15, second main road,
Thillai ganga nagar,
Chennai - 600 061
Mob: 0091 96268 33911
www.careearthtrust.org


Re: [efloraofindia:115573] ID Request - SJ: 3May12

2012-05-04 Thread Sushmita Jha
Thank you very much, Tanay, for the clue. I will check that out.
Sushmita

On 4 May 2012 05:16, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Possibly some species of  *Trichosanthes*
 Tanay


 On 3 May 2012 09:38, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am posting after many months.

 Would much appreciate ID confirmation of this creeper flower seen in
 abundance in Digboi Oil fields where I had gone bird-watching in mid-April.

 Thank you.
 Sushmita Jha




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
 tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 *Webpages:*
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[efloraofindia:115577] Re: Is it Ipomoea alba

2012-05-04 Thread Neha Singh
Hello all, Thanks fr resurfacing it Gurucharan sir.

When I observed d vine, I didnt know how to observe any plant.( that's Y 
large leaves )
 
Leaves- appx 15 cm.

(I will visit dat place again 2day..and iff I find d vine there..I will get 
more pics n detailed info ) 


Regards
Neha Singh




Re: [efloraofindia:115577] Pelatantheria insectifera

2012-05-04 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Thanks a lot Oudhia sir for the useful information.
If I had known earlier then I would have added it in the manuscript.
Thanks to Dinesh sir, Usha mam and Mani Sir for the comments.
Regards
Pankaj


On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote:

 Many thanks Pankaj ji.
 Will put this name information into my notes - thank you.
 Regards.
 Dinesh




 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote:

 Congratulations for academic contribution.

 In Jharkhand one of its names popular among the Healers is Motan Jadi
 (Dinesh ji it is for you) and popularly it is added in Dhawai (Woodfordia)
 based formulations.

 It is also used in Gulbakawali and Maidani Bakuchi based Formulations for
 herb toxicity.

 Few weeks back I received its fresh and dry samples from Haridwar from
 Some Swami ji of National TV for comments. It is not in commercial trade
 from UP but the herb traders of Saharanpur and other areas claim that they
 supply it to the Tantriks for Vasikaran Rituals. It is also available with
 the Faith Healers of Jim Corbett Park region.

 If interested I can forward the local names of this species in study area.

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia



 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Please find one of our recent publications attached with the mail.
 Regards
 Pankaj






-- 
**
Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!


Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D.
Conservation Officer

Office:
Orchid Conservation Section
Flora Conservation Department
Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

Residence:
36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun
Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com; pankajsah...@rediffmail.com
Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 (mobile).
Fax: +852 2483 7194


[efloraofindia:115582] Re: ID herb on river banks, Nashik

2012-05-04 Thread Jui
Dear pankaj ji
 
I checked Veronica anagallis-aquatica and the plant looks the same ... 
thanks a lot for helping out
 
cheers
 
Jui 
 
On Friday, 4 May 2012 07:01:25 UTC+5:30, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote:

 I think Jui mam's pic look like Veronica. 
 Pankaj


 On Thursday, 3 May 2012 18:01:22 UTC+8, Jui wrote: 

 Hello All,
 I needed some help with IDing a herb probably Exacum sp found on the 
 banks of river Godavari in Nshik City itself on 29th April 2012. 
 The plant was 20-25 cm tall growing on wet rocks close to the river bed. 
 I was accompanied by some portulaca sp. 
 The flowers were very small hardly 0.8 mm 
 bluish white in color.
 the leaves were sessile but showed serrate margins. the basal leaves were 
 as long as 4-5 cm linear. the stem and leaves were pubescent.
  

  



Re: [efloraofindia:115582] ID request-030512-PKA2

2012-05-04 Thread Satish Phadke
Looks like *Boswellia serrata*.
These are the highly dried pods/seeds

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:42 PM, Prashant Awale pkaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Friends,

 I had seen this big tree at Nagpur. Tree was leaf less. I do not have much
 inputs to share, any guess pl .

 Date/Time: 03-05-2012 / 07:40AM

 Location: Ambazari, Nagpur

 Habitat: Wild

 Regards
 Prashant




-- 
Dr Satish Phadke


Re: [efloraofindia:115583] Vitex trifolia : Devbagh Karwar

2012-05-04 Thread Satish Phadke
That's correct observation Usha di
I had same thoughts initially. I identified it as Vitex immediately on
observing the flowers but was hesitant to see the leaves crowded. On
careful checking and close observation I found them trifoliate with short
petiole.

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 4:14 AM, ushadi Micromini
microminipho...@gmail.comwrote:

 Great, the fruits were convincing, not the leaves, wonder why?
 Usha di
 =


 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:52 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Vitex trifolia* : Devbagh Karwar
 Verbenaceae
 This shrub was present at many places few meters from sea shore at
 Devbagh beach.
 Leaves 3 foliolate, 5-10cm, petiole 1.5 cm. leaflets sessile elliptic.
 Flowers in terminal panicles. Drupes 6-8mm also observed.

 --
 Dr Satish Phadke




 --
 Usha di
 ===




-- 
Dr Satish Phadke


Re: [efloraofindia:115585] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012

2012-05-04 Thread ushadi Micromini
dont know its id, but cant help telling you, the four petalled flower draws
me...
thanks
usha di
==

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Medium height mangrove tree. Observed in Devbagh. April 2012
 Couldn't fit to any species known to me.
 For ID

 --
 Dr Satish Phadke




-- 
Usha di
===


Re: [efloraofindia:115586] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012

2012-05-04 Thread Adittya Dharap
Satish ji,
 
This is Rhozophora sp. mostly R. mucronata where leaves are mucronate.
 
best regards
 
Adittya

--- On Fri, 5/4/12, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:115584] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012
To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, May 4, 2012, 6:54 PM


Medium height mangrove tree. Observed in Devbagh. April 2012
Couldn't fit to any species known to me.
For ID

-- 
Dr Satish Phadke


Re: [efloraofindia:115588] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012

2012-05-04 Thread Adittya Dharap
 
appologies for the typo error  it is Rhizophora mucronata.
 
Usha di - the lobes seen in the image are persistent stiff calyx lobes. Corolla 
is hairy and very delicate.
 
best regards
 
Adittya
 


--- On Fri, 5/4/12, Adittya Dharap adittyadha...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Adittya Dharap adittyadha...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:115586] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012
To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Satish Phadke 
drsmpha...@gmail.com
Date: Friday, May 4, 2012, 7:00 PM







Satish ji,
 
This is Rhozophora sp. mostly R. mucronata where leaves are mucronate.
 
best regards
 
Adittya

--- On Fri, 5/4/12, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:115584] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012
To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, May 4, 2012, 6:54 PM


Medium height mangrove tree. Observed in Devbagh. April 2012
Couldn't fit to any species known to me.
For ID

-- 
Dr Satish Phadke


Re: [efloraofindia:115589] ID Request - SJ: 3May12

2012-05-04 Thread ushadi Micromini
Oh I forgot wiki has nice figures the ones I told you about by Cathcart
...in the old book... lovely botanical drawings...
check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodgsonia
usha di

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:23 PM, ushadi Micromini
microminipho...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hodgsonia heteroclita is a trichosanthes... SUshmita...

 Usha di
 =



 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thank you very much, Tanay, for the clue. I will check that out.
 Sushmita


 On 4 May 2012 05:16, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Possibly some species of  *Trichosanthes*
 Tanay


 On 3 May 2012 09:38, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am posting after many months.

 Would much appreciate ID confirmation of this creeper flower seen in
 abundance in Digboi Oil fields where I had gone bird-watching in mid-April.

 Thank you.
 Sushmita Jha




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
 tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 *Webpages:*
 UBC Botany , Berbee Lab http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 UBC Botany, People http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 EfloraofIndia https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/






 --
 Usha di
 ===





-- 
Usha di
===


Re: [efloraofindia:115590] ID Request - SJ: 3May12

2012-05-04 Thread ushadi Micromini
you're welcome... its nice to see modern pics...
usha di
===

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you very much, Usha di. I can finally label my photos and share with
 my children and grandchildren!
 Sushmita


 On 4 May 2012 19:23, ushadi Micromini microminipho...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hodgsonia heteroclita is a trichosanthes... SUshmita...

 Usha di
 =



 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thank you very much, Tanay, for the clue. I will check that out.
 Sushmita


 On 4 May 2012 05:16, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Possibly some species of  *Trichosanthes*
 Tanay


 On 3 May 2012 09:38, Sushmita Jha sushmitas...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am posting after many months.

 Would much appreciate ID confirmation of this creeper flower seen in
 abundance in Digboi Oil fields where I had gone bird-watching in 
 mid-April.

 Thank you.
 Sushmita Jha




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
 tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 *Webpages:*
 UBC Botany , Berbee Lab http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 UBC Botany, People http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 EfloraofIndia https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/






 --
 Usha di
 ===





-- 
Usha di
===


Re: [efloraofindia:115591] Pelatantheria insectifera

2012-05-04 Thread Vijayasankar
Congrats to Pankaj and all the authors, for the interesting collection and
publication...

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks a lot Oudhia sir for the useful information.
 If I had known earlier then I would have added it in the manuscript.
 Thanks to Dinesh sir, Usha mam and Mani Sir for the comments.
 Regards
 Pankaj


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote:

 Many thanks Pankaj ji.
 Will put this name information into my notes - thank you.
 Regards.
 Dinesh




 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote:

 Congratulations for academic contribution.

 In Jharkhand one of its names popular among the Healers is Motan Jadi
 (Dinesh ji it is for you) and popularly it is added in Dhawai (Woodfordia)
 based formulations.

 It is also used in Gulbakawali and Maidani Bakuchi based Formulations
 for herb toxicity.

 Few weeks back I received its fresh and dry samples from Haridwar from
 Some Swami ji of National TV for comments. It is not in commercial trade
 from UP but the herb traders of Saharanpur and other areas claim that they
 supply it to the Tantriks for Vasikaran Rituals. It is also available with
 the Faith Healers of Jim Corbett Park region.

 If interested I can forward the local names of this species in study
 area.

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia



 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Please find one of our recent publications attached with the mail.
 Regards
 Pankaj






 --
 **
 Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!


 Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D.
 Conservation Officer

 Office:
 Orchid Conservation Section
 Flora Conservation Department
 Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
 Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 Residence:
 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun
 Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com;
 pankajsah...@rediffmail.com
 Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251(mobile). 
 Fax: +852
 2483 7194



Re: [efloraofindia:115592] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012

2012-05-04 Thread Adittya Dharap





 
On second thought this could be Rhizophora apiculata looking at the leaves (I 
missed the image depicting leaves while posting my comment). But the 
identification based on leaves is not conclusive since the key is on the 
corolla that is missing in the images.
 
best regards
 
Adittya


--- On Fri, 5/4/12, Adittya Dharap adittyadha...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Adittya Dharap adittyadha...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:115588] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012
To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, May 4, 2012, 7:09 PM







 
appologies for the typo error  it is Rhizophora mucronata.
 
Usha di - the lobes seen in the image are persistent stiff calyx lobes. Corolla 
is hairy and very delicate.
 
best regards
 
Adittya
 


--- On Fri, 5/4/12, Adittya Dharap adittyadha...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Adittya Dharap adittyadha...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:115586] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012
To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Satish Phadke 
drsmpha...@gmail.com
Date: Friday, May 4, 2012, 7:00 PM







Satish ji,
 
This is Rhozophora sp. mostly R. mucronata where leaves are mucronate.
 
best regards
 
Adittya

--- On Fri, 5/4/12, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:115584] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012
To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, May 4, 2012, 6:54 PM


Medium height mangrove tree. Observed in Devbagh. April 2012
Couldn't fit to any species known to me.
For ID

-- 
Dr Satish Phadke


Re: [efloraofindia:115593] Pelatantheria insectifera

2012-05-04 Thread Balkar Singh
Many Many Congratulations Pankaj Ji

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Congrats to Pankaj and all the authors, for the interesting collection and
 publication...

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi



 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks a lot Oudhia sir for the useful information.
 If I had known earlier then I would have added it in the manuscript.
 Thanks to Dinesh sir, Usha mam and Mani Sir for the comments.
 Regards
  Pankaj


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote:

 Many thanks Pankaj ji.
 Will put this name information into my notes - thank you.
 Regards.
 Dinesh




 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Pankaj Oudhia 
 pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote:

 Congratulations for academic contribution.

 In Jharkhand one of its names popular among the Healers is Motan Jadi
 (Dinesh ji it is for you) and popularly it is added in Dhawai (Woodfordia)
 based formulations.

 It is also used in Gulbakawali and Maidani Bakuchi based Formulations
 for herb toxicity.

 Few weeks back I received its fresh and dry samples from Haridwar from
 Some Swami ji of National TV for comments. It is not in commercial trade
 from UP but the herb traders of Saharanpur and other areas claim that they
 supply it to the Tantriks for Vasikaran Rituals. It is also available with
 the Faith Healers of Jim Corbett Park region.

 If interested I can forward the local names of this species in study
 area.

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia



 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please find one of our recent publications attached with the mail.
 Regards
 Pankaj






 --
 **
 Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!


 Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D.
 Conservation Officer

 Office:
 Orchid Conservation Section
 Flora Conservation Department
 Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
 Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 Residence:
 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun
 Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com;
 pankajsah...@rediffmail.com
 Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251(mobile). 
 Fax: +852
 2483 7194





-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


Re: [efloraofindia:115594] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012

2012-05-04 Thread Satish Phadke
Thanks Adittya ji for the feedback.

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Adittya Dharap adittyadha...@yahoo.comwrote:


 On second thought this could be *Rhizophora apiculata* looking at the
 leaves (I missed the image depicting leaves while posting my comment). But
 the identification based on leaves is not conclusive since the key is on
 the corolla that is missing in the images.

 best regards

 Adittya


 --- On *Fri, 5/4/12, Adittya Dharap adittyadha...@yahoo.com* wrote:


 From: Adittya Dharap adittyadha...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:115588] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012
 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Friday, May 4, 2012, 7:09 PM



 appologies for the typo error  it is Rhizophora mucronata.

 Usha di - the lobes seen in the image are persistent stiff calyx lobes.
 Corolla is hairy and very delicate.

 best regards

 Adittya



 --- On *Fri, 5/4/12, Adittya Dharap adittyadha...@yahoo.com* wrote:


 From: Adittya Dharap adittyadha...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:115586] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012
 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, Satish Phadke 
 drsmpha...@gmail.com
 Date: Friday, May 4, 2012, 7:00 PM

Satish ji,

 This is Rhozophora sp. mostly R. mucronata where leaves are mucronate.

 best regards

 Adittya

 --- On *Fri, 5/4/12, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com
 Subject: [efloraofindia:115584] Plant for ID: Devbagh SMP1 4/05/2012
 To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Friday, May 4, 2012, 6:54 PM

 Medium height mangrove tree. Observed in Devbagh. April 2012
 Couldn't fit to any species known to me.
 For ID

 --
 Dr Satish Phadke




-- 
Dr Satish Phadke


Re: [efloraofindia:115595] Pelatantheria insectifera

2012-05-04 Thread Smita Raskar
congrats Pankaj... I am very happy for u ..you have one more feather in
crown..Keep progressing  :)

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Many Many Congratulations Pankaj Ji


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Congrats to Pankaj and all the authors, for the interesting collection
 and publication...

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi



 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks a lot Oudhia sir for the useful information.
 If I had known earlier then I would have added it in the manuscript.
 Thanks to Dinesh sir, Usha mam and Mani Sir for the comments.
 Regards
  Pankaj


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote:

 Many thanks Pankaj ji.
 Will put this name information into my notes - thank you.
 Regards.
 Dinesh




 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Pankaj Oudhia 
 pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote:

 Congratulations for academic contribution.

 In Jharkhand one of its names popular among the Healers is Motan Jadi
 (Dinesh ji it is for you) and popularly it is added in Dhawai (Woodfordia)
 based formulations.

 It is also used in Gulbakawali and Maidani Bakuchi based Formulations
 for herb toxicity.

 Few weeks back I received its fresh and dry samples from Haridwar from
 Some Swami ji of National TV for comments. It is not in commercial trade
 from UP but the herb traders of Saharanpur and other areas claim that they
 supply it to the Tantriks for Vasikaran Rituals. It is also available with
 the Faith Healers of Jim Corbett Park region.

 If interested I can forward the local names of this species in study
 area.

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia



 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please find one of our recent publications attached with the mail.
 Regards
 Pankaj






 --
 **
 Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!


 Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D.
 Conservation Officer

 Office:
 Orchid Conservation Section
 Flora Conservation Department
 Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
 Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 Residence:
 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun
 Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com;
 pankajsah...@rediffmail.com
 Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251(mobile). 
 Fax: +852
 2483 7194





 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964




-- 
Smita raskar
308 Disha Residency,
Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
Mob.09422379568 / 09763989639


Re: [efloraofindia:115596] Pelatantheria insectifera

2012-05-04 Thread Satish Phadke
Congrats Pankaj ji
Great work!

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:50 PM, Smita Raskar smita.ras...@gmail.com wrote:

 congrats Pankaj... I am very happy for u ..you have one more feather in
 crown..Keep progressing  :)


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Balkar Singh balkara...@gmail.com wrote:

 Many Many Congratulations Pankaj Ji


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Congrats to Pankaj and all the authors, for the interesting collection
 and publication...

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi



 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks a lot Oudhia sir for the useful information.
 If I had known earlier then I would have added it in the manuscript.
 Thanks to Dinesh sir, Usha mam and Mani Sir for the comments.
 Regards
  Pankaj


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.comwrote:

 Many thanks Pankaj ji.
 Will put this name information into my notes - thank you.
 Regards.
 Dinesh




 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Congratulations for academic contribution.

 In Jharkhand one of its names popular among the Healers is Motan Jadi
 (Dinesh ji it is for you) and popularly it is added in Dhawai 
 (Woodfordia)
 based formulations.

 It is also used in Gulbakawali and Maidani Bakuchi based Formulations
 for herb toxicity.

 Few weeks back I received its fresh and dry samples from Haridwar
 from Some Swami ji of National TV for comments. It is not
 in commercial trade from UP but the herb traders of Saharanpur and other
 areas claim that they supply it to the Tantriks for Vasikaran Rituals. It
 is also available with the Faith Healers of Jim Corbett Park region.

 If interested I can forward the local names of this species in study
 area.

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia



 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Please find one of our recent publications attached with the mail.
 Regards
 Pankaj






 --
 **
 Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!


 Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D.
 Conservation Officer

 Office:
 Orchid Conservation Section
 Flora Conservation Department
 Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
 Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 Residence:
 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun
 Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com;
 pankajsah...@rediffmail.com
 Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251(mobile). 
 Fax: +852
 2483 7194





 --
 Regards

 Dr Balkar Singh
 Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
 Arya P G College, Panipat
 Haryana-132103
 09416262964




 --
 Smita raskar
 308 Disha Residency,
 Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
 Mob.09422379568 / 09763989639




-- 
Dr Satish Phadke


Re: [efloraofindia:115597] Ravenala madagascariensis from Hooghly

2012-05-04 Thread surajit koley
Thank you very much Mani Sir, i have more pics of this tree, recorded
sometime in 2009-10, will search my archives and upload when i find any.

Regards,

surajit



On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:36 AM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Surajit ji, beautiful tree.
 Regards,
 Mani





Re: [efloraofindia:115598] Re: wild herb in uncultivated land from Hooghly 03-05-12 SK-3

2012-05-04 Thread surajit koley
Thank you, Pankaj Ji and Tanay Ji, once again.

Found more beautiful pics of this species by Gurcharan Sir -
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/rumex$20dentatus/indiantreepix/jmIVbPjutxA/CHpHmhgUTS8J

Also learned from wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumex_dentatus )
that those greenish white growth in the center of the flowers are called
tubercles! Now could you tell me please why they are there?

Regards,

surajit



On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh yes, sorry for the wrong spelling :(
 Pankaj


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:32 AM, surajit koley 
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Tanay Da once again...:)

 Regards,

 surajit


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Rumex dentatus* (please ignore the typo)
 Tanay


 On 3 May 2012 18:18, Dr Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks like Rumes dentatus to me.
 Pankaj


 On Friday, 4 May 2012 02:16:17 UTC+8, surajit koley wrote:

 Sir / Madam,

 Found this wild herb in an uncultivated land. It is a common herb and
 can be found around ditches too.

 Species : UNKNOWN
 Habit  Habitat : wild herb, uncultivated land
 Date : 12-03-12  14-03-12 (showing *Calotes versicolor*)
 Place : Gobra (Hooghly), WB

 Thank you  Regards,

 Surajit Koley




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
 tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 *Webpages:*
 UBC Botany , Berbee Lab http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 UBC Botany, People http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 EfloraofIndia https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/






 --
 **
 Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!


 Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D.
 Conservation Officer

 Office:
 Orchid Conservation Section
 Flora Conservation Department
 Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
 Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 Residence:
 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun
 Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com;
 pankajsah...@rediffmail.com
 Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251
 (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194



[efloraofindia:115601] DV :: 01MAY12-0407 :: small deciduous climber - striking bluish-grey beads

2012-05-04 Thread Dinesh Valke
 Dear friends ... ID please
 *Place*: at Tung Wadi near Lake Pavna, Lonavala
*Time*: May 1, 2012 at 4.07pm
*Habit*: slender woody deciduous climber
*Habitat*: wild vegetation on slope ~ 2450 ft asl

*Climber height*: about 3 - 4 ft
*Climber length*: about 10 -12 ft
*No leaf found on entire length of the climber.
*

[image: 
P1540611]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995831740%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzcpH2IXfHn8GqZzm5kWzpvh-_HUzw
... *more views*:

[image: 
P1540616]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995834264%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzetlF0EeiHIMAbYOutthixahNd5QA
[image:
P1540608]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995829500%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzdVM6yVAl8rmcPs-y2ERsvQS3RWdQ
[image:
P1540621]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995836876%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzeomWAkoKyw4D9zIj9C0Y1ZViSyKw



Regards.
Dinesh


Re: [efloraofindia:115602] Croton bonplandianum from Hooghly

2012-05-04 Thread Satish Phadke
Yes very good capture.

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:36 PM, surajit koley 
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir / Madam,

 This is a common wild herb found along roadside hedges. I remember that we
 used to apply its faintly milky white latex on our minor wounds  bruises
 while playing in our childhood. Much later i heard / read (?) that like our
 own saliva plant sap also contains lysozyme that helps fight bacteria and
 thereby quicken healing of wounds.

 Species : Croton bonplandianum Baill.
 Habit  Habitat : wild herb, roadside, uncultivated area
 Date : 15-03-12, 10.15 a.m.
 Place : Hooghly, WB
 ID help : 1) http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Ban%20Tulsi.html
 2)
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Croton$20bonplandianum/indiantreepix/sCGw-v7Bpvw/4QwcxXK7GpcJ
 3)
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Croton$20bonplandianum/indiantreepix/usvRVGVhHVM/5AAtahhW_34J

 Thank you  Regards,

 Surajit Koley




-- 
Dr Satish Phadke


Re: [efloraofindia:115605] Croton bonplandianum from Hooghly

2012-05-04 Thread surajit koley
Thank you Satish Sir for confirming the ID as well as info on lysozymes.

Regards,

surajit


On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes very good capture.

 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:36 PM, surajit koley 
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir / Madam,

 This is a common wild herb found along roadside hedges. I remember that
 we used to apply its faintly milky white latex on our minor wounds 
 bruises while playing in our childhood. Much later i heard / read (?) that
 like our own saliva plant sap also contains lysozyme that helps fight
 bacteria and thereby quicken healing of wounds.

 Species : Croton bonplandianum Baill.
 Habit  Habitat : wild herb, roadside, uncultivated area
 Date : 15-03-12, 10.15 a.m.
 Place : Hooghly, WB
 ID help : 1)
 http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Ban%20Tulsi.html
 2)
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Croton$20bonplandianum/indiantreepix/sCGw-v7Bpvw/4QwcxXK7GpcJ
 3)
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Croton$20bonplandianum/indiantreepix/usvRVGVhHVM/5AAtahhW_34J

 Thank you  Regards,

 Surajit Koley




 --
 Dr Satish Phadke



[efloraofindia:115607] Re: Terminalia elliptica : Glands

2012-05-04 Thread surajit koley
Excellent pictures Satish Sir, have a question - how do you identify this 
tree from *T. arjuna*? Fruits are very similar to ARJUNA ! One key is 
pubescent leaf - am i correct?

Regards,

Surajit Koley


On Friday, 4 May 2012 22:53:16 UTC+5:30, Satish Phadke wrote:

 Attempted to photograph some glands on the leaves of 
 *Terminalia elliptica syn. Terminalia tomentosa *
 (AIN) ऐन 
 New foliage has started growing after  the fall season and even the 
 smallest of the leaf is showing the gland.
 The glands are fairly away from the leaf base and are often at unequal 
 length from the base of the leaf.

 -- 
 Dr Satish Phadke



[efloraofindia:115609] Re: DV :: 01MAY12-0407 :: small deciduous climber - striking bluish-grey beads

2012-05-04 Thread surajit koley
amazing plant and wonderful capture...
Regards,
surajit


On Friday, 4 May 2012 22:42:59 UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote:

 Dear friends ... ID please
  *Place*: at Tung Wadi near Lake Pavna, Lonavala
 *Time*: May 1, 2012 at 4.07pm
 *Habit*: slender woody deciduous climber
 *Habitat*: wild vegetation on slope ~ 2450 ft asl

 *Climber height*: about 3 - 4 ft
 *Climber length*: about 10 -12 ft
 *No leaf found on entire length of the climber.
 * 
  
 [image: 
 P1540611]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995831740%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzcpH2IXfHn8GqZzm5kWzpvh-_HUzw
  
 ... *more views*:

 [image: 
 P1540616]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995834264%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzetlF0EeiHIMAbYOutthixahNd5QA
  [image: 
 P1540608]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995829500%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzdVM6yVAl8rmcPs-y2ERsvQS3RWdQ
  [image: 
 P1540621]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995836876%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzeomWAkoKyw4D9zIj9C0Y1ZViSyKw
  



 Regards.
 Dinesh 



[efloraofindia:115609] Kalatope trees - id Al050412 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-05-04 Thread Alok Mahendroo (Google Docs)

Attached: Untitled document.html
Sent using Google Docs http://docs.google.com/

Dear friends,
Another tree for id from Kalatope,
Location Kalatope, Chamba
Altitude 1200 mts
Habitat Wild
Habit tree
Season April
Height 15 mts approx

regards
Alok


Re: [efloraofindia:115610] Re: DV :: 01MAY12-0407 :: small deciduous climber - striking bluish-grey beads

2012-05-04 Thread Vijayasankar
Very nice pictures Dinesh ji. It is a species of *Rynchosia*, probably R.
cyanosperma? (cyan = blue; sperm = seed).

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:11 PM, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 amazing plant and wonderful capture...
 Regards,
 surajit


 On Friday, 4 May 2012 22:42:59 UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote:

  Dear friends ... ID please
  *Place*: at Tung Wadi near Lake Pavna, Lonavala
 *Time*: May 1, 2012 at 4.07pm
 *Habit*: slender woody deciduous climber
 *Habitat*: wild vegetation on slope ~ 2450 ft asl

 *Climber height*: about 3 - 4 ft
 *Climber length*: about 10 -12 ft
 *No leaf found on entire length of the climber.
 *

 [image: 
 P1540611]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995831740%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzcpH2IXfHn8GqZzm5kWzpvh-_HUzw
 ... *more views*:

 [image: 
 P1540616]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995834264%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzetlF0EeiHIMAbYOutthixahNd5QA
  [image:
 P1540608]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995829500%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzdVM6yVAl8rmcPs-y2ERsvQS3RWdQ
  [image:
 P1540621]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995836876%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzeomWAkoKyw4D9zIj9C0Y1ZViSyKw



 Regards.
 Dinesh




Re: [efloraofindia:115611] Re: DV :: 01MAY12-0407 :: small deciduous climber - striking bluish-grey beads

2012-05-04 Thread Tanay Bose
Hi Vijay Ji.

I think you tried to mean Rhynchosia cyanosperma. According to plant list
R. cyanosperma
is now considered as a synonym of Rhynchosia hirta. Thanks for the ID quite
and interesting
looking plant

Regards

Tanay
*
*
*
**
*
On 4 May 2012 11:54, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very nice pictures Dinesh ji. It is a species of *Rynchosia*, probably R.
 cyanosperma? (cyan = blue; sperm = seed).

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:11 PM, surajit koley 
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 amazing plant and wonderful capture...
 Regards,
 surajit


 On Friday, 4 May 2012 22:42:59 UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote:

  Dear friends ... ID please
  *Place*: at Tung Wadi near Lake Pavna, Lonavala
 *Time*: May 1, 2012 at 4.07pm
 *Habit*: slender woody deciduous climber
 *Habitat*: wild vegetation on slope ~ 2450 ft asl

 *Climber height*: about 3 - 4 ft
 *Climber length*: about 10 -12 ft
 *No leaf found on entire length of the climber.
 *

 [image: 
 P1540611]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995831740%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzcpH2IXfHn8GqZzm5kWzpvh-_HUzw
 ... *more views*:

 [image: 
 P1540616]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995834264%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzetlF0EeiHIMAbYOutthixahNd5QA
  [image:
 P1540608]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995829500%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzdVM6yVAl8rmcPs-y2ERsvQS3RWdQ
  [image:
 P1540621]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995836876%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzeomWAkoKyw4D9zIj9C0Y1ZViSyKw



 Regards.
 Dinesh





-- 
*Tanay Bose*
Research  Teaching Assistant.
Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
  604-822-2019 (Lab)
  604-822-6089  (Fax)
tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
*Webpages:*
UBC Botany , Berbee Lab http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
UBC Botany, People http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
EfloraofIndia https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/


Re: [efloraofindia:115612] Re: DV :: 01MAY12-0407 :: small deciduous climber - striking bluish-grey beads

2012-05-04 Thread Vijayasankar
Thanks Tanay, for the correction and update.

Regards

Vijayasankar Raman
National Center for Natural Products Research
University of Mississippi


On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Vijay Ji.

 I think you tried to mean Rhynchosia cyanosperma. According to plant list
 R. cyanosperma
 is now considered as a synonym of Rhynchosia hirta. Thanks for the ID
 quite and interesting
 looking plant

 Regards

 Tanay
 *
 *
 *
 **
 *
 On 4 May 2012 11:54, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very nice pictures Dinesh ji. It is a species of *Rynchosia*, probably
 R. cyanosperma? (cyan = blue; sperm = seed).

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:11 PM, surajit koley 
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 amazing plant and wonderful capture...
 Regards,
 surajit


 On Friday, 4 May 2012 22:42:59 UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote:

  Dear friends ... ID please
  *Place*: at Tung Wadi near Lake Pavna, Lonavala
 *Time*: May 1, 2012 at 4.07pm
 *Habit*: slender woody deciduous climber
 *Habitat*: wild vegetation on slope ~ 2450 ft asl

 *Climber height*: about 3 - 4 ft
 *Climber length*: about 10 -12 ft
 *No leaf found on entire length of the climber.
 *

 [image: 
 P1540611]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995831740%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzcpH2IXfHn8GqZzm5kWzpvh-_HUzw
 ... *more views*:

 [image: 
 P1540616]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995834264%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzetlF0EeiHIMAbYOutthixahNd5QA
  [image:
 P1540608]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995829500%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzdVM6yVAl8rmcPs-y2ERsvQS3RWdQ
  [image:
 P1540621]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995836876%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzeomWAkoKyw4D9zIj9C0Y1ZViSyKw



 Regards.
 Dinesh





 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
 tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 *Webpages:*
 UBC Botany , Berbee Lab http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 UBC Botany, People http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 EfloraofIndia https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/





[efloraofindia:115614] Re: Citrus - Rutaceae Week: May 7 to 13, 2012

2012-05-04 Thread OZmic
Welcome to Citrus week.
I have been asked to coordinate this discussion but felt a little out of my 
depth. 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh having agreed to supervise the proceedings I feel a 
little more relax. However mostly I will lead the exchanges related to 
nomenclature. Here I feel in my element. As an introduction to the topic of 
Citrus let me say that I truely believe that our discussion group has the 
potential to sort most of the nomenclatural confusion in regards to Citrus 
names in India. It will certainly take more than a week though.
I have received messages telling me that people do not feel they can 
contribute because they are not experts. Everyone knows at least one 
language, that means one has the capacity to check facts using references. 
Experts are people who know more and more about less and less. The two 
complement each other, so let's all work hard together.
Here are selected references related to Citrus that will provide much basic 
 advanced information.

Background material available online.
Wikipedia's Cultivated plant taxonomy  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultivated_plant_taxonomy .
Wikipedia's Page on the 2009 ICNCP Code online   
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Code_of_Nomenclature_for_Cultivated_Plants.
Brickell, C.D. et al. (eds) (2009). International Code of Nomenclature for 
Cultivated Plants http://www.actahort.org/chronica/pdf/sh_10.pdf. *Scripta 
Horticulturae* (International Society of Horticultural Science) *10*: 
1–184. ISBNhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number
 
978-0-643-09440-6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-0-643-09440-6
.
 http://www.actahort.org/chronica/pdf/sh_10.pdf .

Referential material available online.
 Jorma Koskinen's  Citrus Pages:   
http://users.kymp.net/citruspages/botindex.html . Each taxon illustrated 
and botanically identified.
Robert Willard Hodgson's Horticultural Varieties of Citrus  Chapter 4 of 
The Citrus Industry:   http://lib.ucr.edu/agnic/webber/Vol1/Chapter4.html. 
Often 
off line but keep trying. Lots of info about Indian cultivars.
My cross-index of Citrus names:   
http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Citrus.html  complements 
Jorma's botanical pages.
My pages Malayalam index   
http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Malayalam-index-new.html . 
Tamil index and Notes pages  
http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Tamil_index_new.html
http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Notes_Indian_names.html .
The specific and complementary references listed at the bottom of these 
pages will either serve many Indian names, most in romanised form or 
provide facilities to translate, transcribe or transliterate those names.
Of course this does not exclude your favourite reference books.
Now we are equiped to do the hard work.
more coming


[efloraofindia:115615] Re: Citrus - Rutaceae Week: May 7 to 13, 2012

2012-05-04 Thread OZmic
Citrus week - Introduction Part 2
I would like to point out the problems, as I see them, with Indian names.
In India people often rely on Sanscrit names. Many internet sites revolve 
around Ayurvedic concepts and Sanskrit is as much or more popular than 
botanical Latin in those circles. Sanskrit names tend to be matched with 
older botanical names that either do not get a mention nowodays, or are 
older synonyms. Sometimes the synonymy can lead to the modern preferred 
name but in some cases it is almost impossible to match. Often the same 
name is applied to different plants. This is not just typical of Indian 
names, it does happen everywhere in the world. So one has to turn to other 
languages from India. The problem here is that there are many scripts and 
even more languages. In Europe one deals with 3 or 4 scripts mainly and in 
most languages the vernacular is matched with modern botanical names. 
Outside India when one meets an Indian name it is in 90% of cases a 
romanised version of a name, especially on the internet. The process of 
romanisation / transcription / transliteration is never totally accurate. 
If one tries to transcribe back into the original language many questions 
arise.
On the botanical side all subspecific names tend to be grouped under the 
specific name (the numbers of species are an indication of bio-diversity) 
but this does not favour diversity in cultivated plants. Some of the 
matching common names are generic by definition so they may apply to 
several subspecific taxa. This means that they are not wrong but they are 
not precise enough. Therefore one must try to find names that reflect the 
botanical rank of the plant identified. It can be a subspecies, a variety, 
a cultivar or belong to a cultivar group. 
The trade has often had a bad influence on vernacular. It is common to 
associate a species with a cultivar name, kamala is an example. Then that 
name gets applied to various subspecific plants thereby becoming a generic 
name. One can imagine, if this name is say Hindi, that it will inevitably 
be transcribed into Bengali, Gujarati, Malayalam, Tamil, Telugu etc. Each 
of those may be badly transcribed, will be (badly) romanised in various 
ways and one ends up with hundreds of almost meaningless names.
There are hundreds of expressions such as small-leaved, large-flowered, 
hairy-leaved, large-seeded ... and so on. I am not familiar enough with 
Indian languages but if such expressions are not commonly found in India 
surely there must be other ways of adding specificity to names.
Localising any name as much as possible helps. Southern..., Northern 
..., Sinhalese ..., Tamil Nadu..., Silhet... and so on.

Regarding botanical names: in the previously mentioned Wiki pages a good 
example is given illustrating the various standardised versions of a 
cultivar name applied to a Japanese flowering cherry. The comments in 
colour are my own.
*Prunus serrata* Sato-zakura Group  - this is not specific enough because 
it would apply to all cultivars in the group.
*Prunus serrata* (Sato-zakura Group) ‘Ojochin’   -  this would be my 
preferred choice, except that the authority name would not be excessive, 
thus:  *Prunus serrata* Lindl. (Sato-zakura Group) ‘Ojochin’ perfect.*Prunus
* ‘Ojochin’  - this is trade standard, too brief, not enough information
Flowering cherry ‘Ojochin’  -  this is vernacular, also applied in trade, 
catalogues for example.
 Coming back to Citrus, I would suggest first that whenever a name is 
mentioned, its origin should be mentioned (Tamil / Bengali etc.), or its 
corresponding name in script (as opposed to the ever misleading romanised 
version) should be given, and if possible the matching botanical name. I 
can provide much of what would be missing but we may wish to limit 
ourselves to short lists. At this point it is not helpful to check my MMPND 
pages on Sorting Citrus names except for the previously mentioned sections, 
but I will let everyone know when a more reliable string of names is being 
posted on that site. Examples paralleling the Prunus above:
মোসাম্বি (Mōsāmbi)  -   *Citrus* × *sinensis *(L.) Osbeck 'Mosambi'  -   *
Citrus* × *sinensis *(L.) Osbeck (*Sweet-Orange* Group) 'Mosambi'
मौसम्बी  Mausambī  (Mausambee, Musambi)   -  *Citrus* × *sinensis *(L.) 
Osbeck (*Sweet-Orange* Group) 'Mosambi'
मौसम्बी Mausambī  (Mausambee, Musambi)   -  *Citrus* × *sinensis *(L.) 
Osbeck 'Mosambi' -   *Citrus* × *sinensis *(L.) Osbeck (*Sweet-Orange*Group) 
'Mosambi'

Vernacular: any of those 3 would be worth mentioning: Mausambī, Mausambee, 
Musambi. The most accurate word is  मौसम्बी (if I havent made a mistake).
 Botanical: any of these would provide a good start:  *Citrus* *sinensis *'
Mosambi' ,or  *Citrus* × *sinensis *(L.) Osbeck (*Sweet-Orange* Group), or *
Citrus* × *sinensis *(L.) Osbeck 'Mosambi', even *Citrus* *sinensis .* 

Rightly or wrongly Mosambi is also applied to the Navel Group - *Citrus* × 
*sinensis 
*(L.) Osbeck 

[efloraofindia:115616] Re: Citrus - Rutaceae Week: May 7 to 13, 2012

2012-05-04 Thread OZmic

--
Citrus week - Part 3 - Setting the challenges
Main cultivated and wild citrus species in India
Each name is to be elaborated on, transcripted and validated by native 
speakers. Synonyms in all languages of India will be matched so please 
start feeding the beast.
Informed arguments are welcomed

Bolded names are the currently accepted names (based on Tanaka  Mabberley) 
It is evident that the new taxonomy introduces extra difficulties when 
matching names. This is a very good reason for not discarding the old names 
but to keep them as synonyms whether legitimate or not as long as they 
carry the authority name(s).  Citrus reticulata var. crenatifolia for 
example can be meaningless if met for the first time out of the blue.
 In blue I have given the regions where each type of citrus is grown and 
the languages (in parenthesis) which should have names for those citrus, 
but this is not exclusive.


Citrus acida Pers.  -   Citrus × acida Pers. -  Citrus  × aurantifolia 
(Christm.) 
Swingle 
Citrus acida Roxb.  -   Citrus  × aurantifolia (Christm.) Swingle 


Citrus assamensis  S. Dutta  S.C. Bhattach.   
Specific common names:  Ada-jamir   N.E. India (Assamese, Bengali, 
Manipuri)

Citrus aurantifolia Swingle   - Citrus × aurantiifolia(Christm.) Swingle   


Specific common names:  Abhayapuri lime, Karimganj lime, Kagzi lime
Commercial cultivar names:   Kagzi lime, Vikram,  Pramalini, Sai sarbati, 
Baramasi All India

Citrus aurantium Linn.   -Citrus × aurantium L.
Specific common names:  Kmrun-jamir, Godh Huntra Herale, Mole Kaipuli  All 
India

Citrus grandis Osbeck   -   *Citrus maxima *(Burm.) Merr.
Specific common names:  Dowali, Nowgong Burni, Gagar, Zemabawk Aijal   
Commercial cultivar names:   Chakotra, Gagar  All India

Citrus ichangenis Swingle-   Citrus cavaleriei  H. Lév. ex 
Cavalerie
Specific common names:  Ketsa Shupfu  N.E. India (Assamese, 
Bengali, Manipuri)

Citrus indica Tan. 
Specific common names:  Indian wild orange N.E. India(Assamese, 
Bengali, Manipuri)

Citrus jambhiri Lush.   -Citrus × jambhiri  Lush.  
Specific common names:  Soh-myndong, Soh-jhahlia, Kata Jamir, Mithi, Mitha 
Tulia, Jambheri Kotangiri, Renuka lemon,
Jatti Khatti, Jullandhuri Khatti, Jambheri Kodur, Khatta Patiala, Jambhiri 
Local, Moogu Nimbe  All India

Citrus karna Raf.   -Citrus × aurantium L. 'Karna'
Specific common names:  Soh-sarkar, Nibu, Karna Khatta, Karna, Karna nimboo 
  N.E. India  W. India  

Citrus latifolia Tan. Acid lime (Large fruits)   -   Citrus × latifolia Tanaka 

Commercial cultivar names:  Kagzi(Tamil)

Citrus latipes (Swingle) Tanaka 
Specific common names:  Khasi papeda, Soh-kymphorshrich, Soh-Shyrkhoit N.E. 
India (Assamese, Bengali, Manipuri)

Citrus limetta Risso   -  Citrus × limon (L.) Osbeck 'Limetta' 
Specific common names:  Italian lime, Mediterranean sweet lemon, Sweet 
lemon, Sweet lime, Sweet limetta, Mitha-kagzi   N.E. India (Assamese, 
Bengali, Manipuri)

Citrus limettioides Tan.   -   Citrus × limon (L.) Osbeck 'Indian Lime' 
*Citrus medica* L. var. *limetta *Wight  Arn.  (a synonym?)
Specific common names:  Indian lime, Sweet lime (India), Mitha nimbu, Sakka 
nimbu, Sarbati chikna N.W. India (Gujarati, Marathi, Punjabi)


Citrus limon Burm.f.-Citrus × limon  (L.) Burm. f. ?   -  Citrus 
× limon (L.) Osbeck (Mabberley class.)
Specific common names:  Assam lemon, Pati-lebu, Jora-tenga, Naya changney, 
Soh-systong, Pani-jamir
Commercial cultivar names:  Baramasia, Assam lemon, Gandhraj, Seville, 
Nepali Oblong, Nepali lemon, Italian and Eureka   N.E. India (Assamese, 
Bengali, Manipuri)
 Assam lemon is not Citrus assamensis as one would expect but Citrus 
limon - Please confirm / validate.. 


Citrus limon var. decumana-   *Citrus maxima *(Burm.) Merr.
Specific common names:  Soh-long, Hill lemon,  Galgal or Kil-KilN.E. 
India  W. India  
Note: This is probably a totally illegitimate name. 2 illegitimate synonyms 
are know for this taxon  *Citrus aurantium* L. var. *decumana* L. and *Citrus 
**decumana* L. In any case  Citrus × limon 'Galgal' appears to be the 
correct name for Galgal. (please confirm / validate)
 
Citrus limon var limon   (citron hybrids)   -Citrus × limon  (L.) 
Burm. f.
Specific common names:  Gandhraj lemon, Godhapti-lebu,  Kata-jamuri, 
Elachi-lebu
   All India


Citrus limonia Osbeck  -  Citrus × limonia var. rangpur Osbeck -  Citrus × 
jambhiri  Lush. 'Rangpur' 
Specific common names: Rangpur lime, Marmalade orange, Kusai lime, Sylhet 
limeN.E. India  Central India

Citrus limonum Wall. - a synonym of  Citrus × limonum Risso  ?   -   
Citrus × limon (L.) Osbeck 
Specific common names:  Kaghzi lemon, Mahajambiram, Peddanimba, Periya 
elumicham, Thorla limbu .
This one I cannot resolve.

Citrus macroptera Mont. 
Specific common names: Tith-kara, Sat-kara  N.E. India 

Re: [efloraofindia:115616] Re: Citrus - Rutaceae Week: May 7 to 13, 2012

2012-05-04 Thread ushadi Micromini
GREAT write up and Intro...

ARE WE THUS focusing ONLY on Cultivated Citrus in INDIA?


From these 3 messages, it seems we might be headed that way.

OR am I confused?

Please clarify, *Dr Porcher or Dr Gurcharan *
Thanks

Usha di
==




On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:44 AM, OZmic m.porch...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Welcome to Citrus week.
 I have been asked to coordinate this discussion but felt a little out of
 my depth.
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh having agreed to supervise the proceedings I feel a
 little more relax. However mostly I will lead the exchanges related to
 nomenclature. Here I feel in my element. As an introduction to the topic of
 Citrus let me say that I truely believe that our discussion group has the
 potential to sort most of the nomenclatural confusion in regards to Citrus
 names in India. It will certainly take more than a week though.
 I have received messages telling me that people do not feel they can
 contribute because they are not experts. Everyone knows at least one
 language, that means one has the capacity to check facts using references.
 Experts are people who know more and more about less and less. The two
 complement each other, so let's all work hard together.
 Here are selected references related to Citrus that will provide much
 basic  advanced information.

 Background material available online.
 Wikipedia's Cultivated plant taxonomy 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultivated_plant_taxonomy .
 Wikipedia's Page on the 2009 ICNCP Code online  
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Code_of_Nomenclature_for_Cultivated_Plants.
 Brickell, C.D. et al. (eds) (2009). International Code of Nomenclature
 for Cultivated Plants http://www.actahort.org/chronica/pdf/sh_10.pdf. 
 *Scripta
 Horticulturae* (International Society of Horticultural Science) *10*:
 1–184. ISBNhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number
  
 978-0-643-09440-6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-0-643-09440-6
 .
  http://www.actahort.org/chronica/pdf/sh_10.pdf .

 Referential material available online.
  Jorma Koskinen's  Citrus Pages:  
 http://users.kymp.net/citruspages/botindex.html . Each taxon illustrated
 and botanically identified.
 Robert Willard Hodgson's Horticultural Varieties of Citrus  Chapter 4 of
 The Citrus Industry:   http://lib.ucr.edu/agnic/webber/Vol1/Chapter4.html. 
 Often
 off line but keep trying. Lots of info about Indian cultivars.
 My cross-index of Citrus names:  
 http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Citrus.html  complements
 Jorma's botanical pages.
 My pages Malayalam index  
 http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Malayalam-index-new.html .
 Tamil index and Notes pages 
 http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Tamil_index_new.html   
 http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Notes_Indian_names.html .
 The specific and complementary references listed at the bottom of these
 pages will either serve many Indian names, most in romanised form or
 provide facilities to translate, transcribe or transliterate those names.
 Of course this does not exclude your favourite reference books.
 Now we are equiped to do the hard work.
 more coming




-- 
Usha di
===


Re: [efloraofindia:115617] Re: Citrus - Rutaceae Week: May 7 to 13, 2012

2012-05-04 Thread Balkar Singh
Very Good Information... Thanks Dr Porcher

On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:10 AM, ushadi Micromini
microminipho...@gmail.comwrote:

 GREAT write up and Intro...

 ARE WE THUS focusing ONLY on Cultivated Citrus in INDIA?


 From these 3 messages, it seems we might be headed that way.

 OR am I confused?

 Please clarify, *Dr Porcher or Dr Gurcharan *
 Thanks

 Usha di
 ==





 On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:44 AM, OZmic m.porch...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Welcome to Citrus week.
 I have been asked to coordinate this discussion but felt a little out of
 my depth.
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh having agreed to supervise the proceedings I feel a
 little more relax. However mostly I will lead the exchanges related to
 nomenclature. Here I feel in my element. As an introduction to the topic of
 Citrus let me say that I truely believe that our discussion group has
 the potential to sort most of the nomenclatural confusion in regards to
 Citrus names in India. It will certainly take more than a week though.
 I have received messages telling me that people do not feel they can
 contribute because they are not experts. Everyone knows at least one
 language, that means one has the capacity to check facts using references.
 Experts are people who know more and more about less and less. The two
 complement each other, so let's all work hard together.
 Here are selected references related to Citrus that will provide much
 basic  advanced information.

 Background material available online.
 Wikipedia's Cultivated plant taxonomy 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultivated_plant_taxonomy .
 Wikipedia's Page on the 2009 ICNCP Code online  
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Code_of_Nomenclature_for_Cultivated_Plants.
 Brickell, C.D. et al. (eds) (2009). International Code of Nomenclature
 for Cultivated Plants http://www.actahort.org/chronica/pdf/sh_10.pdf.
 *Scripta Horticulturae* (International Society of Horticultural Science)
 *10*: 1–184. 
 ISBNhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Book_Number
  
 978-0-643-09440-6http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BookSources/978-0-643-09440-6
 .
  http://www.actahort.org/chronica/pdf/sh_10.pdf .

 Referential material available online.
  Jorma Koskinen's  Citrus Pages:  
 http://users.kymp.net/citruspages/botindex.html . Each taxon
 illustrated and botanically identified.
 Robert Willard Hodgson's Horticultural Varieties of Citrus  Chapter 4 of
 The Citrus Industry:  
 http://lib.ucr.edu/agnic/webber/Vol1/Chapter4.html . Often off line but
 keep trying. Lots of info about Indian cultivars.
 My cross-index of Citrus names:  
 http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Citrus.html  complements
 Jorma's botanical pages.
 My pages Malayalam index  
 http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Malayalam-index-new.html .
 Tamil index and Notes pages 
 http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Tamil_index_new.html   
 http://www.plantnames.unimelb.edu.au/Sorting/Notes_Indian_names.html .
 The specific and complementary references listed at the bottom of these
 pages will either serve many Indian names, most in romanised form or
 provide facilities to translate, transcribe or transliterate those names.
 Of course this does not exclude your favourite reference books.
 Now we are equiped to do the hard work.
 more coming




 --
 Usha di
 ===




-- 
Regards

Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964


[efloraofindia:115619] Re: efloraofindia:''For Id 29102011MR2’’ mauve flowers, leaves 5 lobes Pune

2012-05-04 Thread Ron_Convolvulaceae
Hello,

 The flower and leaves are consistent for Ipomoea cairica and although 
the* sepals* are not quite in focus , they are also (from what I can see) 
seem to be consistent for Ipomoea cairica.

regards,

Ron





Re: [efloraofindia:115619] need Id

2012-05-04 Thread Smita Raskar
*Malaxis versicolor (Lindl.) Abeyw...Orchidaceae*eae

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:22 AM, iravati majgaonkar iravat...@gmail.comwrote:

   Hello all.
  This plant was photographed at Matheran near Neral in monsoon last year.
 It seems like an Orchidaceae plant. Is it a Malaxis sp.?
   Thank you.





-- 
Smita raskar
308 Disha Residency,
Salaiwada,Sawantwadi
Mob.09422379568 / 09763989639


Re: [efloraofindia:115620] Re: Citrus - Rutaceae Week: May 7 to 13, 2012

2012-05-04 Thread Nidhan Singh
Thanks Dr. Porcher for extremely nice startup, so much information, will
take many days to go throughHAPPY Rutaceae Week to come...

-- 
Regards,

Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227


Re: [efloraofindia:115621] Re: Citrus - Rutaceae Week: May 7 to 13, 2012

2012-05-04 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Indeed a very good write up, I knew a few days earlier and had hinted about
it in my mail.
Ushadi, of course it is a Rutaceae Week, and all members of the family will
be uploaded by the members. Citrus, however, being the largest genus would
be the main focus, especially so because Mr. Porcher has great expertise on
taxonomy and regional names of Citrus fruits, we all have to admit the
taxonomy of this group is most confused and no two books tend to agree on
accepted names. It should be a really exciting week, with Mr. Porcher
steering and leading it.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/



On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks Dr. Porcher for extremely nice startup, so much information, will
 take many days to go throughHAPPY Rutaceae Week to come...

 --
 Regards,

 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227




Re: [efloraofindia:115622] Kalatope trees - id Al050412 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-05-04 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Bauhinia variegata, I hope
Saw lot of them flowering on Nainital trip.

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:56 PM, Alok Mahendroo (Google Docs) 
alokisabe...@gmail.com wrote:

 [image: Document] Untitled document
 Message from alokisabe...@gmail.com:

 Dear friends,
 Another tree for id from Kalatope,
 Location Kalatope, Chamba
 Altitude 1200 mts
 Habitat Wild
 Habit tree
 Season April
 Height 15 mts approx

 regards
 Alok



 Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents,
 spreadsheets and presentations.
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Re: [efloraofindia:115623] Croton bonplandianum from Hooghly

2012-05-04 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Croton bonplandianum


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:54 PM, surajit koley 
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Satish Sir for confirming the ID as well as info on lysozymes.

 Regards,

 surajit


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes very good capture.

 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:36 PM, surajit koley 
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir / Madam,

 This is a common wild herb found along roadside hedges. I remember that
 we used to apply its faintly milky white latex on our minor wounds 
 bruises while playing in our childhood. Much later i heard / read (?) that
 like our own saliva plant sap also contains lysozyme that helps fight
 bacteria and thereby quicken healing of wounds.

 Species : Croton bonplandianum Baill.
 Habit  Habitat : wild herb, roadside, uncultivated area
 Date : 15-03-12, 10.15 a.m.
 Place : Hooghly, WB
 ID help : 1)
 http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Ban%20Tulsi.html
 2)
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Croton$20bonplandianum/indiantreepix/sCGw-v7Bpvw/4QwcxXK7GpcJ
 3)
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/Croton$20bonplandianum/indiantreepix/usvRVGVhHVM/5AAtahhW_34J

 Thank you  Regards,

 Surajit Koley




 --
 Dr Satish Phadke





Re: [efloraofindia:115625] Re: DV :: 01MAY12-0407 :: small deciduous climber - striking bluish-grey beads

2012-05-04 Thread Dinesh Valke
Many many thanks Vijayasankar ji for the ID; many thanks to Surajit ji and
Tanay for the appreciation.
Regards.
Dinesh




On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks Tanay, for the correction and update.


 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Vijay Ji.

 I think you tried to mean Rhynchosia cyanosperma. According to plant
 list R. cyanosperma
 is now considered as a synonym of Rhynchosia hirta. Thanks for the ID
 quite and interesting
 looking plant

 Regards

 Tanay
 *
 *
 *
 **
 *
 On 4 May 2012 11:54, Vijayasankar vijay.botan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very nice pictures Dinesh ji. It is a species of *Rynchosia*, probably
 R. cyanosperma? (cyan = blue; sperm = seed).

 Regards

 Vijayasankar Raman
 National Center for Natural Products Research
 University of Mississippi


 On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:11 PM, surajit koley 
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 amazing plant and wonderful capture...
 Regards,
 surajit


 On Friday, 4 May 2012 22:42:59 UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote:

  Dear friends ... ID please
  *Place*: at Tung Wadi near Lake Pavna, Lonavala
 *Time*: May 1, 2012 at 4.07pm
 *Habit*: slender woody deciduous climber
 *Habitat*: wild vegetation on slope ~ 2450 ft asl

 *Climber height*: about 3 - 4 ft
 *Climber length*: about 10 -12 ft
 *No leaf found on entire length of the climber.
 *

 [image: 
 P1540611]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995831740%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzcpH2IXfHn8GqZzm5kWzpvh-_HUzw
 ... *more views*:

 [image: 
 P1540616]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995834264%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzetlF0EeiHIMAbYOutthixahNd5QA
  [image:
 P1540608]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995829500%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzdVM6yVAl8rmcPs-y2ERsvQS3RWdQ
  [image:
 P1540621]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6995836876%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzeomWAkoKyw4D9zIj9C0Y1ZViSyKw



 Regards.
 Dinesh





 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
 tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 *Webpages:*
 UBC Botany , Berbee Lab http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 UBC Botany, People http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 EfloraofIndia https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/






Re: [efloraofindia:115626] Re: Citrus - Rutaceae Week: May 7 to 13, 2012

2012-05-04 Thread Dinesh Valke
Many thanks Dr Porcher for the thorough introduction.
Looking forward for an exciting and rewarding week.
Regards.
Dinesh




On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Indeed a very good write up, I knew a few days earlier and had hinted
 about it in my mail.
 Ushadi, of course it is a Rutaceae Week, and all members of the family
 will be uploaded by the members. Citrus, however, being the largest genus
 would be the main focus, especially so because Mr. Porcher has great
 expertise on taxonomy and regional names of Citrus fruits, we all have to
 admit the taxonomy of this group is most confused and no two books tend to
 agree on accepted names. It should be a really exciting week, with Mr.
 Porcher steering and leading it.

 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/



 On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks Dr. Porcher for extremely nice startup, so much information, will
 take many days to go throughHAPPY Rutaceae Week to come...

 --
 Regards,

 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227








[efloraofindia:115627] Fencing the Kas - is that the only option for conservation.

2012-05-04 Thread Rajesh Sachdev
Feedback solicited on fencing the Kas platue, Satara - Maharashtra

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-03-27/pune/31244228_1_sandeep-shrotri-kas-plateau

-- 
Regards
Rajesh Sachdev
http://project-matheran.webs.com/
http://www.facebook.com/leopardguy


Re: [efloraofindia:115628] IDENTIFICATION OF WILD FLOWER

2012-05-04 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Surprised to read the statement

In fact, there is no Argemone oil as such in market. Argemone seeds are
adulterated with Mustard seeds due to similarity. Argemone oil is not mixed
with Mustard oil, its seeds only (with Mustard seeds)

I think this quote from Useful Plants of India (CSIR, I don't find any
reason to doubt this publication) should clarify:

Seeds yield a nauseous, bitter, non-edible oil, used in cutaneous
troubles; it is cathartic. Presence of Argemone oil in edible mustard oil
is probably responsible for outbreaks of epidemic dropsy; mixed with drying
oi, such a linseed oil, it may be used in paint industry; also used for
soap-making.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/

l

.



On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote:

 It is always good to take second opinion specially in technical issues.

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia


 On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 10:04 AM, vikram jit singh 
 vikramjitsing...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the clarification, Mr Oudhia. I based my statement on the
 following info provided by ushadi in the earlier discussion on this flower:


 *What i find fascinating is that the tradesmen try to pass the buck and
 say the adulteration was accidental... most often its intentional .. since
 the Sheyal Kanta oil is very cheap... compared to Mustard oil...*


 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Pankaj Oudhia 
 pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for sharing. Worrying about this statement

 Argemone oil is much cheaper than mustard oil.

 In fact, there is no Argemone oil as such in market. Argemone seeds are
 adulterated with Mustard seeds due to similarity. Argemone oil is not mixed
 with Mustard oil, its seeds only (with Mustard seeds).

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia


 On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 10:46 AM, vikram jit singh 
 vikramjitsing...@gmail.com wrote:


 Dear all,

 I am attaching a scan of my sunday column in the hindustan times, which
 carried the piece on argemone mexicana. the full text is pasted below for
 ready reference.

 Thanks.


 --


 *wildbuzz*

 *Vikram Jit Singh*

 *Ninny ki prem kahani*


 ** *Wild creatures suffer when men go to war. The 323 Air Defence
 Regiment was undertaking a field firing exercise of radar-enabled L70 guns
 in the famous Pokharan deserts of Rajasthan. When the fire and brimstone
 eased, soldiers found a terrorised Chinkara fawn. Then C.O. of the
 Regiment, Col. Prem Kumar, posted a Havildar at the spot to stand guard
 over the fawn, hoping the mother would return. However, the mother was
 probably dead and after a full day's wait, the Regiment adopted the fawn
 and christened him `Ninny'. A string of beads was put around its dainty
 neck. Ninny took readily to the Regiment and the hardened soldiers' hearts
 melted when Ninny frequented their tents for a tasty morsel. The fawn's HQs
 was Col. Kumar's house. Whenever annoyed at his whims not being pandered
 to, Ninny would slink into the Puja room and sulk for hours! As Ninny grew,
 the Regiment built a mini zoo with a flock of domesticated geese to
 keep Ninny company. Such was the camarderie that one one memorable occasion
 when Col. Kumar was herding the geese, he got a rude butt in his backside.
 It was Ninny rushing to the defence of his goosey girlfriends!

 *April phool*

 ** * A flower of vivid yellow blooms wild in the scrubland forests of
 the Lower Shiwaliks behind the Sukhna lake. Don't be fooled by its
 brilliance, though. The Argemone Mexicana (Prickly poppy), which is a plant
 native to Mexico and the West Indies, has been used by traders
 to adulterate mustard and rape seed oils. This is because the seeds of
 Argemone and mustard look very similar. According to botanists of the
 group, efloraofindia, even if 1g of Argemone seeds are mixed with 100g
 of oil, it leads to capillary leakage of protein-rich fluids into soft
 tissues of the human body. The ailment is called Dropsy and it has no
 specific therapy. There were Dropsy epidemics in India in 1934 (more than
 2,000 cases) and in 1998, when 52 died and 2,500 more were hospitalised.
 This prompted the Government to temporarily ban mustard oil. New cases
 appeared in the summer of 2003. Efloraofindia botanists say tradesmen try
 to pass the buck by claiming adulteration was accidental. However, more
 often than not, adulteration is intentional since Argemone oil is much
 cheaper than mustard oil.

 *Snakes evict Minister*

 ** *Snakes seem to have launched a drive to evict Punjab Cabinet
 Minister Gulzar Singh Ranike from his sprawling bunglow (956 in Sector 39,
 Chandigarh). In the last five years, a dozen snakes have surfaced amongst
 the jittery Ranikes. The latest intrusion came when a 3.5 feet Common krait
 was rescued by snake-rescue