Re: [efloraofindia:456522] Fwd: Unknown plant for identification-2?

2023-10-09 Thread J.M. Garg
Posted leaves are creating a bit of a problem.
Do you have any other images?
I think more closer to images at
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/11/lagerstroemia-microcarpa/



On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 22:35, Dipoo Dipankar Borah <
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> Thank you Saroj Ji and Chowdary Ji. Yes it is L.parvifolia.
>
> On Tue, 3 Oct, 2023, 10:04 pm Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>
>> *Lagerstroemia parviflora* Roxb. !
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 4:32 PM Swamy Kusom 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like *Lagerstroemia *
>>>
>>> Raja K Swamy
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 3:58 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Dipankar ji

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 Photographed in Behali Reserve Forest, Assam on 22 ‎May ‎2022,.
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Re: [efloraofindia:456521] Fwd: Unknown plant for identification-5?

2023-10-09 Thread J.M. Garg
Yes. Something from Menispermaceae
.
But unable to close in.


On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 17:57, Mandru Ramesh Chowdary <
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> Looks like Abuta species
>
> On Tue, 3 Oct, 2023, 4:44 pm J.M. Garg,  wrote:
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>> Thanks, Dipankar ji
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>>
>> More images.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 4:16 PM Dipoo Dipankar Borah <
>> dipankarborah...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Dear Members,
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>>> Photographed in Behali Reserve Forest, Assam on 20 ‎March ‎2019.
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Re: [efloraofindia:456520] Re: Habenaria !

2023-10-09 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Mahadeswara ji !

Saroj Kasaju


On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 10:37 am, Mahadeswara  wrote:

> Superb compilation of beautiful photographs !
>
> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 1:45:27 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kasaju wrote:
>
>> 8 Habenaria species from Nepal, 5 from Kathmandu Valley and 3 from West
>> Nepal !
>> Thank you.
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[efloraofindia:456519] Re: Pilea anisophylla Wedd.

2023-10-09 Thread J.M. Garg
Appears so as per
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=50371_id=2

On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 15:05, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Gurle Bhanjyang, Kathmandu, Nepal
> Date: 28 September 2023
> Altitude:  1665m.
> Habit : Wild
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> Thank you.
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[efloraofindia:456518] Re: Habenaria !

2023-10-09 Thread Mahadeswara
Superb compilation of beautiful photographs !

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 1:45:27 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kasaju wrote:

> 8 Habenaria species from Nepal, 5 from Kathmandu Valley and 3 from West 
> Nepal !
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[efloraofindia:456517] Re: Nepali name of Pontederia vaginalis Burm.f. ... syn. Monochoria vaginalis (Burm.f.) C.Presl ex Kunth

2023-10-09 Thread Saroj Kasaju
OK Dinesh Ji !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 10:25 PM Dinesh Valke  wrote:

> Thank you very much, Saroj ji, for help with the names of this plant.
> Regards.
> Dinesh
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 9:56 PM Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
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>> Nepali Names : निलो जलुके Nilo Jaluke  / कर्कले झार Karkale Jhaar !
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 8:18 PM Dinesh Valke 
>> wrote:
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>>> Dear Saroj ji,
>>> Please help me with Nepali name(s) of *Pontederia vaginalis* Burm.f.
>>> ... syn. *Monochoria vaginalis* (Burm.f.) C.Presl ex Kunth
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
>>>
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[efloraofindia:456516] Re: Nepali name of Pontederia vaginalis Burm.f. ... syn. Monochoria vaginalis (Burm.f.) C.Presl ex Kunth

2023-10-09 Thread Dinesh Valke
Thank you very much, Saroj ji, for help with the names of this plant.
Regards.
Dinesh

On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 9:56 PM Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Nepali Names : निलो जलुके Nilo Jaluke  / कर्कले झार Karkale Jhaar !
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 8:18 PM Dinesh Valke 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Saroj ji,
>> Please help me with Nepali name(s) of *Pontederia vaginalis* Burm.f. ...
>> syn. *Monochoria vaginalis* (Burm.f.) C.Presl ex Kunth
>>
>> Regards.
>> Dinesh
>>
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[efloraofindia:456515] Re: Nepali name of Pontederia vaginalis Burm.f. ... syn. Monochoria vaginalis (Burm.f.) C.Presl ex Kunth

2023-10-09 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Nepali Names : निलो जलुके Nilo Jaluke  / कर्कले झार Karkale Jhaar !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 8:18 PM Dinesh Valke  wrote:

> Dear Saroj ji,
> Please help me with Nepali name(s) of *Pontederia vaginalis* Burm.f. ...
> syn. *Monochoria vaginalis* (Burm.f.) C.Presl ex Kunth
>
> Regards.
> Dinesh
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[efloraofindia:456514] Re: Habenaria !

2023-10-09 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Dr. Kumar

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 8:46 PM Pankaj Kumar  wrote:

> Very interesting.
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 05:38, J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> Thanks, Saroj ji
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>> From: Saroj Kasaju 
>> Date: Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 13:45
>> Subject: Habenaria !
>> To: efloraindia , J.M. Garg <
>> jmga...@gmail.com>
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>>
>> 8 Habenaria species from Nepal, 5 from Kathmandu Valley and 3 from West
>> Nepal !
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:456513] Re: SK 3873 08 October 2023 - Orchidaceae

2023-10-09 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Dr. Kumar . Guessing the same !

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 8:47 PM Pankaj Kumar  wrote:

> This is a Pholidota. Cant confirm the species, but if I could guess,
> easthe iest is Pholidota imbricata!
> Pankaj
>
>
> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 06:05, J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>>
>>
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>> Date: Sun, 8 Oct, 2023, 20:32
>> Subject: Re: SK 3873 08 October 2023 - Orchidaceae
>> To: efloraindia , J.M. Garg <
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>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 8:46 PM Saroj Kasaju 
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>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Shivapuri National Park, Kathmandu, Nepal
>>> Date: 30 September 2023
>>> Altitude:  1859m.
>>> Habitat : Wild
>>> Is it possible to ID ?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
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[efloraofindia:456512] Re: SK 3873 08 October 2023 - Orchidaceae

2023-10-09 Thread Pankaj Kumar
This is a Pholidota. Cant confirm the species, but if I could guess, easthe
iest is Pholidota imbricata!
Pankaj


On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 06:05, J.M. Garg  wrote:

>
>
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> Subject: Re: SK 3873 08 October 2023 - Orchidaceae
> To: efloraindia , J.M. Garg <
> jmga...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 8:46 PM Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Shivapuri National Park, Kathmandu, Nepal
>> Date: 30 September 2023
>> Altitude:  1859m.
>> Habitat : Wild
>> Is it possible to ID ?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
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[efloraofindia:456511] Re: Habenaria !

2023-10-09 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Very interesting.
Pankaj


On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 05:38, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Saroj ji
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> Date: Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 13:45
> Subject: Habenaria !
> To: efloraindia , J.M. Garg <
> jmga...@gmail.com>
>
>
> 8 Habenaria species from Nepal, 5 from Kathmandu Valley and 3 from West
> Nepal !
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>

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[efloraofindia:456510] Nepali name of Pontederia vaginalis Burm.f. ... syn. Monochoria vaginalis (Burm.f.) C.Presl ex Kunth

2023-10-09 Thread Dinesh Valke
Dear Saroj ji,
Please help me with Nepali name(s) of *Pontederia vaginalis* Burm.f. ...
syn. *Monochoria vaginalis* (Burm.f.) C.Presl ex Kunth

Regards.
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Re: [efloraofindia:456509] Re: Names of Plants in India :: Mollugo pentaphylla L.

2023-10-09 Thread Dinesh Valke
Thanks very much, Gurcharan ji, for the appreciation.
Regards.
Dinesh

On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 6:27 PM Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> Very useful compilation Dinesh ji.
>
> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 5:48:09 PM UTC+5:30 Dinesh Valke wrote:
>
>> Odia name in native script added; Tamil name revised ...
>>
>> *Trigastrotheca pentaphylla* (L.) Thulin
>> [image: Trigastrotheca pentaphylla (L.) Thulin]
>>
>> ¿ *tri-gas-troh-THEE-kuh* ? -- Greek: *tris* (three); *gastros*
>> (stomach, belly); *theca* (cup, capsule), referring to the three-celled
>> fruit ... Dave's Botanary 
>> *pen-tuh-FIL-uh* -- Greek: *penta* (five); *phyllum* (leaf) ... Dave's
>> Botanary
>> 
>>
>> *commonly known as*: African chickweed, five-leaved carpetweed •
>> *Assamese*: পথাৰ সুন্দৰী বন pathara sundarai bana • *Bengali*: জল পাপরা
>> jul-papra, খেত পাপরা khet-papra • *Dogri*: पपोड़ी papori • *Gujarati*:
>> ઝરસ jharas • *Hindi*: चमस chamas, झरसी jharasi, खेत पापड़ khet papar,
>> त्रियष्टि triyashti • *Kannada*: ಜರಾಸಿ jaraasi, ಕಾಗೆ ಪುರಳೆ kaage purale,
>> ಪರ್ಪಾಟಕ parpaataka • *Khamti*: jaluk boon • *Konkani*: झरसी jharasi,
>> कडवी भाजी kadvi bhaji • *Malayalam*: പർപ്പടകപ്പുല്ല് parpadakapullu •
>> *Marathi*: झरसी jharasi • *Mizo*: va-umim-bung • *Mundari*: pah-kundla •
>> *Nepali*: न्याउली nyaaulee • *Odia*: ପିତା ଗହମ pita-gohun • *Rajasthani*:
>> चिरमोरा chirmora • *Sanskrit*: चमस chamas, ग्रीष्मसुन्दर grishmasundara,
>> पर्पटक parpataka, त्रियष्टि triyashti • *Tamil*: சீரகப் பூண்டு
>> cirakap-poondu, பாவைக்கீரை paavai-keerai • *Telugu*: వెర్రి చాదరాసి
>> verri chatarasi • *Tulu*: ಪರ್ಪಾಟೊ parpato • *Urdu*: چمس chamas, کهيت
>> پاپڙ khet papar, تريشٿي triyashti
>>
>>
>> *botanical names*: *Trigastrotheca pentaphylla* (L.) Thulin ... *homotypic
>> synonyms*: *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. • *Pharnaceum pentaphyllum* (L.)
>> Spreng. ... and more at POWO 
>> Bibliography / etymology
>> Links listed as references in the notes below, may not remain valid
>> permanently. Portals / websites have a tendency to re-organize / revise
>> their content, leading to change in URLs of pages in their site. Some sites
>> may even close down at their own will.
>> ~ ENGLISH ~
>> written and spoken widely, in most parts of India
>> *African chickweed*
>>
>>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Tropical Plants Database
>>,
>>Ken Fern. tropical.theferns.info. 2023-09-28.
>>
>> *five-leaved carpetweed*
>>
>>- Flowers of India
>>
>> 
>>
>> ~ ASSAMESE ~
>> written in: *Assamese* (অসমীয়া) ... spoken in: *Assam*, Arunachal
>> Pradesh, Meghalaya
>> *পথাৰ সুন্দৰী বন pathara sundarai bana*
>>
>>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Many thanks to Brahmananda Patiri
>>for help with this name ... facebook
>>
>> 
>>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Flora of Assam
>> Vol
>>II by U N Kanjilal, P C Kanjilal, A Das
>>
>> ~ BENGALI ~
>> written in: *Bengali* (বাংলা) ... spoken in: *West Bengal*, Assam,
>> Jharkhand
>> *জল পাপরা jul-papra*
>>
>>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Shri R L Badhwar and Dr R R
>>Fernandez - Edible Wild Plants of the Himalayas
>> - The Forest
>>Research Institute and Colleges, Dehra Dun
>>
>> *খেত পাপরা khet-papra*
>>
>>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Many thanks to Dr Tapas
>>Chakrabarty for help with this name ... efloraofindia
>>
>>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Flora of Assam
>> Vol
>>II by U N Kanjilal, P C Kanjilal, A Das
>>- old nomenclature used in this volume *Mollugo stricta* L. ... BENGAL
>>PLANTS
>>
>>VOL. I by PRAIN, DAVID
>>
>> ~ DOGRI ~
>> written in: *Devanagari* (डोगरी) ... spoken in: *Jammu & Kashmir* ...
>> spoken by the Dogras
>> *पपोड़ी papori*
>>
>>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Many thanks to OM Prakash
>>Vidyarthi for help with this name ... facebook
>>
>> 
>>
>> ~ GUJARATI ~
>> written in: *Gujarati* (ગુજરાતી) ... spoken in: *Gujarat*, *Dadra &
>> Nagar Haveli*, *Daman & Diu*
>> *ઝરસ jharas*
>>
>>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Many thanks to 

Re: [efloraofindia:456509] Re: Names of Plants in India :: Mollugo pentaphylla L.

2023-10-09 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Very useful compilation Dinesh ji.

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 5:48:09 PM UTC+5:30 Dinesh Valke wrote:

> Odia name in native script added; Tamil name revised ...
>
> *Trigastrotheca pentaphylla* (L.) Thulin 
> [image: Trigastrotheca pentaphylla (L.) Thulin] 
>
> ¿ *tri-gas-troh-THEE-kuh* ? -- Greek: *tris* (three); *gastros* (stomach, 
> belly); *theca* (cup, capsule), referring to the three-celled fruit ... 
> Dave's 
> Botanary 
> *pen-tuh-FIL-uh* -- Greek: *penta* (five); *phyllum* (leaf) ... Dave's 
> Botanary 
>  
>
> *commonly known as*: African chickweed, five-leaved carpetweed • 
> *Assamese*: পথাৰ সুন্দৰী বন pathara sundarai bana • *Bengali*: জল পাপরা 
> jul-papra, খেত পাপরা khet-papra • *Dogri*: पपोड़ी papori • *Gujarati*: ઝરસ 
> jharas • *Hindi*: चमस chamas, झरसी jharasi, खेत पापड़ khet papar, 
> त्रियष्टि triyashti • *Kannada*: ಜರಾಸಿ jaraasi, ಕಾಗೆ ಪುರಳೆ kaage purale, 
> ಪರ್ಪಾಟಕ parpaataka • *Khamti*: jaluk boon • *Konkani*: झरसी jharasi, कडवी 
> भाजी kadvi bhaji • *Malayalam*: പർപ്പടകപ്പുല്ല് parpadakapullu • *Marathi*: 
> झरसी jharasi • *Mizo*: va-umim-bung • *Mundari*: pah-kundla • *Nepali*: 
> न्याउली nyaaulee • *Odia*: ପିତା ଗହମ pita-gohun • *Rajasthani*: चिरमोरा 
> chirmora • *Sanskrit*: चमस chamas, ग्रीष्मसुन्दर grishmasundara, पर्पटक 
> parpataka, त्रियष्टि triyashti • *Tamil*: சீரகப் பூண்டு cirakap-poondu, 
> பாவைக்கீரை paavai-keerai • *Telugu*: వెర్రి చాదరాసి verri chatarasi • 
> *Tulu*: ಪರ್ಪಾಟೊ parpato • *Urdu*: چمس chamas, کهيت پاپڙ khet papar, 
> تريشٿي triyashti 
>
>
> *botanical names*: *Trigastrotheca pentaphylla* (L.) Thulin ... *homotypic 
> synonyms*: *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. • *Pharnaceum pentaphyllum* (L.) 
> Spreng. ... and more at POWO  
> Bibliography / etymology
> Links listed as references in the notes below, may not remain valid 
> permanently. Portals / websites have a tendency to re-organize / revise 
> their content, leading to change in URLs of pages in their site. Some sites 
> may even close down at their own will. 
> ~ ENGLISH ~
> written and spoken widely, in most parts of India 
> *African chickweed*
>
>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Tropical Plants Database 
>, 
>Ken Fern. tropical.theferns.info. 2023-09-28.
>
> *five-leaved carpetweed*
>
>- Flowers of India 
>
> 
>
> ~ ASSAMESE ~
> written in: *Assamese* (অসমীয়া) ... spoken in: *Assam*, Arunachal 
> Pradesh, Meghalaya 
> *পথাৰ সুন্দৰী বন pathara sundarai bana*
>
>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Many thanks to Brahmananda Patiri 
>for help with this name ... facebook 
>
> 
>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Flora of Assam 
> Vol 
>II by U N Kanjilal, P C Kanjilal, A Das
>
> ~ BENGALI ~
> written in: *Bengali* (বাংলা) ... spoken in: *West Bengal*, Assam, 
> Jharkhand 
> *জল পাপরা jul-papra*
>
>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Shri R L Badhwar and Dr R R 
>Fernandez - Edible Wild Plants of the Himalayas 
> - The Forest 
>Research Institute and Colleges, Dehra Dun
>
> *খেত পাপরা khet-papra*
>
>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Many thanks to Dr Tapas Chakrabarty 
>for help with this name ... efloraofindia 
>
>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Flora of Assam 
> Vol 
>II by U N Kanjilal, P C Kanjilal, A Das
>- old nomenclature used in this volume *Mollugo stricta* L. ... BENGAL 
>PLANTS 
> 
>VOL. I by PRAIN, DAVID
>
> ~ DOGRI ~
> written in: *Devanagari* (डोगरी) ... spoken in: *Jammu & Kashmir* ... 
> spoken by the Dogras 
> *पपोड़ी papori*
>
>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Many thanks to OM Prakash Vidyarthi 
>for help with this name ... facebook 
>
> 
>
> ~ GUJARATI ~
> written in: *Gujarati* (ગુજરાતી) ... spoken in: *Gujarat*, *Dadra & Nagar 
> Haveli*, *Daman & Diu* 
> *ઝરસ jharas*
>
>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. ... Many thanks to Viplav Gangar for 
>help with this name ... efloraofindia 
>
>- for *Mollugo pentaphylla* L. 

[efloraofindia:456508] Re: Tagetes lemmonii from California-GS03102023-1

2023-10-09 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Thanks a lot Mahadeswara ji.

On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 5:33:32 PM UTC+5:30 Mahadeswara wrote:

> Wonderful !
>
> On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 2:40:23 PM UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh wrote:
>
>> Tagetes lemmonii, a shrubby species sometimes reaching 2.5 m in height, 
>> pinnately compound leaves with 3-5 leaflets and yellow heads in dense 
>> clusters. Photographed from Fremont, California.  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> Retired  Associate Professor
>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>> https://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
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Re: [efloraofindia:456507] Re: MS/2023/133 - Water plant for ID

2023-10-09 Thread Mahadeswara
Thanks  Chowdhary ji.
I also thought so  . But refrained from suggesting..
Best wishes,

On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 10:44:13 AM UTC+5:30 Mandru Ramesh Chowdary 
wrote:

> It looks like Nymphea mexicana.. 
>
> Thank you
>
> On Sun, 8 Oct, 2023, 10:08 am M.Swamy,  wrote:
>
>> Not a lotus . Yellow water lily for me.
>>
>> On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 10:05:12 AM UTC+5:30 M Swamy wrote:
>>
>>> Dear members,
>>> I am forwarding herewith the photographs received with a tag yellow 
>>> lotus, from another group for Id. Photographed in Mysore last week.  
>>> Cultivated..  Foe me it is a Nymphaea species.  Please  suggest the species 
>>> ID.
>>> Thanks & Regards,
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[efloraofindia:456505] Re: Boehmeria sp. for identification

2023-10-09 Thread J.M. Garg
I do not find a better option.
Pl. see
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/10/boehmeria/

On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 14:20, Dipoo Dipankar Borah <
dipankarborah...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No Garg Ji,
> I don't think so.
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 9:01 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Pl. check:
>> https://efloraofindia.com/2019/09/01/boehmeria-virgata-var-scabrella/
>>
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>> From: Dipoo Dipankar Borah 
>> Date: Wed, 27 Sept 2023 at 07:42
>> Subject: Boehmeria sp. for identification
>> To: efloraofindia , J.M. Garg <
>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Dear Members,
>> Help me identify this Boehmeria sp.
>> Photographed in Tropical forests of Papum Pare District, Arunachal
>> Pradesh on 12 ‎November ‎2016.
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:456504] Re: MS/2023/130 - ID request of a herb

2023-10-09 Thread J.M. Garg
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From: M Swamy 
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 17:43
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:456076] Re: MS/2023/130 - ID request of a herb
To: J.M. Garg 


Thanks garg ji.
With Regards,

On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 5:19 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> I think more closer to images at
> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/04/01/tephrosia-purpurea/
>
> On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 20:01, M Swamy  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Choudhary ji.
>> With Regards,
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Oct, 2023, 18:49 Mandru Ramesh Chowdary, <
>> mandrurameshchowd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mostly Tephrosia maxima
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2 Oct, 2023, 6:14 pm Mahadeswara,  wrote:
>>>
 Suggestion : *Tephrosia* species (*T.purpurea* ???)

 On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 5:49:59 PM UTC+5:30 M Swamy wrote:

> One more image.
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 5:48 PM M Swamy  wrote:
>
>> One more image..
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 5:47 PM M Swamy  wrote:
>>
>>> One more image.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 5:46 PM M Swamy  wrote:
>>>
 Dear members,
 Please ID the herb belonging to Fabaceae.  Photographed in Chennai
 by a friends & sent for ID.
 Thanks & Regards,

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Re: [efloraofindia:456503] Re: Thunbergia kasajuana Bh.Adhikari & J.R.I.Wood

2023-10-09 Thread M Swamy
Simply superb Saroj ji.
With Regards,
Dr.Mahadeswara Swamy

On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 4:04 PM Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

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> Thank you Mr. Garg !
>
> Saroj Kasaju
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> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 4:18 pm, J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> Superb presentation.
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>> On Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 15:06 Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
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>>> Dear Members,
>>>
>>> Location: Shivapuri National Park, Kathmandu, Nepal
>>> Date: 30 September 2023
>>> Altitude:  1746m.
>>> Habitat : Wild
>>> From a new location !
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Re: [efloraofindia:456502] Re: MS/2023/130 - ID request of a herb

2023-10-09 Thread J.M. Garg
I think more closer to images at
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/04/01/tephrosia-purpurea/

On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 20:01, M Swamy  wrote:

> Thanks Choudhary ji.
> With Regards,
>
> On Mon, 2 Oct, 2023, 18:49 Mandru Ramesh Chowdary, <
> mandrurameshchowd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Mostly Tephrosia maxima
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Oct, 2023, 6:14 pm Mahadeswara,  wrote:
>>
>>> Suggestion : *Tephrosia* species (*T.purpurea* ???)
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 2, 2023 at 5:49:59 PM UTC+5:30 M Swamy wrote:
>>>
 One more image.

 On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 5:48 PM M Swamy  wrote:

> One more image..
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 5:47 PM M Swamy  wrote:
>
>> One more image.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 5:46 PM M Swamy  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear members,
>>> Please ID the herb belonging to Fabaceae.  Photographed in Chennai
>>> by a friends & sent for ID.
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Re: [efloraofindia:456499] Re: MS/2023/133 - Water plant for ID

2023-10-09 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Mandru ji
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On Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 10:44 Mandru Ramesh Chowdary, <
mandrurameshchowd...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It looks like Nymphea mexicana..
>
> Thank you
>
> On Sun, 8 Oct, 2023, 10:08 am M.Swamy,  wrote:
>
>> Not a lotus . Yellow water lily for me.
>>
>> On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 10:05:12 AM UTC+5:30 M Swamy wrote:
>>
>>> Dear members,
>>> I am forwarding herewith the photographs received with a tag yellow
>>> lotus, from another group for Id. Photographed in Mysore last week.
>>> Cultivated..  Foe me it is a Nymphaea species.  Please  suggest the species
>>> ID.
>>> Thanks & Regards,
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Re: [efloraofindia:456498] I'd request 807 from kashmir

2023-10-09 Thread J.M. Garg
Yes, leaves images will be required for species I'd.
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On Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 12:23 Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:

> Yes Mr. Chaowdary,
> Habitat, stem, leaf both sides, whole plant and as far as many images
> showing
> all aspects of the sp. would be helpful for quick and proper ID without a
> tension !
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 11:04 AM Mandru Ramesh Chowdary <
> mandrurameshchowd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes saroj sir, Anaphalis but twig also needed to identify the plant
>> species ...
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> On Sun, 8 Oct, 2023, 6:30 pm Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>>
>>> Anaphalis !
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 1:06 PM Shakir Ahmad 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Help me to identify this plant species from sinthan top kashmir

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[efloraofindia:456496] Re: Thunbergia kasajuana Bh.Adhikari & J.R.I.Wood

2023-10-09 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Mr. Garg !

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 4:18 pm, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Superb presentation.
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> On Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 15:06 Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Shivapuri National Park, Kathmandu, Nepal
>> Date: 30 September 2023
>> Altitude:  1746m.
>> Habitat : Wild
>> From a new location !
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
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[efloraofindia:456495] Re: Thunbergia kasajuana Bh.Adhikari & J.R.I.Wood

2023-10-09 Thread J.M. Garg
Superb presentation.
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On Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 15:06 Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Shivapuri National Park, Kathmandu, Nepal
> Date: 30 September 2023
> Altitude:  1746m.
> Habitat : Wild
> From a new location !
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
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[efloraofindia:456494] Re: Ipomoea purpurea (L.) Roth.

2023-10-09 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Mr. Garg!

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 4:17 pm, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Wonderful presentation.
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> On Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 15:25 Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Shivapuri National Park, Kathmandu, Nepal
>> Date: 30 September 2023
>> Altitude:  1925m.
>> Habitat : Wild
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
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[efloraofindia:456493] Re: Ipomoea purpurea (L.) Roth.

2023-10-09 Thread J.M. Garg
Wonderful presentation.
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On Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 15:25 Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:

> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Shivapuri National Park, Kathmandu, Nepal
> Date: 30 September 2023
> Altitude:  1925m.
> Habitat : Wild
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
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Re: [efloraofindia:456492] Re: Fw: Identification of Lamiaceae from Pakistan

2023-10-09 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Tyr Stachys floccosa !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 3:48 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Looks different from hyptis:
> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/06/hyptis/
> To me appears close to Nepata or related genus.
> Hi, Iram ji,
> Can you send a close up of the flowers?
>
> On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 18:56, Mandru Ramesh Chowdary <
> mandrurameshchowd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks like Hyptis species
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Oct, 2023, 4:01 pm J.M. Garg,  wrote:
>>
>>> Any idea of the genus?
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 15:55, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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 From: J.M. Garg 
 Date: Tue, 26 Sept 2023 at 17:17
 Subject: Fwd: Fw: Identification of Lamiaceae from Pakistan
 To: efloraofindia 
 Cc: 


 It is from Lamiaceae.
 Attaching the images for convenience.


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 Date: Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 09:37
 Subject: Fw: Identification of Lamiaceae from Pakistan
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 Dear flora members,
 Hope you all are fine and doing great. I am writing to all of you after
 a long time. I need to identify a plant species, from Lamiaceae, i assume
 the genus is Nepeta. Perhaps Nepeta clarkei. Please confirm. The plant was
 collected last month from Gilgit Baltistan, near Deosai plains, Pakistan.
 The photographs are not of good quality but i am posting here, if possible.
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Re: [efloraofindia:456491] Re: Fw: Identification of Lamiaceae from Pakistan

2023-10-09 Thread J.M. Garg
Looks different from hyptis:
https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/06/hyptis/
To me appears close to Nepata or related genus.
Hi, Iram ji,
Can you send a close up of the flowers?

On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 18:56, Mandru Ramesh Chowdary <
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> Looks like Hyptis species
>
> On Mon, 2 Oct, 2023, 4:01 pm J.M. Garg,  wrote:
>
>> Any idea of the genus?
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 15:55, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>
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>>> From: J.M. Garg 
>>> Date: Tue, 26 Sept 2023 at 17:17
>>> Subject: Fwd: Fw: Identification of Lamiaceae from Pakistan
>>> To: efloraofindia 
>>> Cc: 
>>>
>>>
>>> It is from Lamiaceae.
>>> Attaching the images for convenience.
>>>
>>>
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>>> Date: Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 09:37
>>> Subject: Fw: Identification of Lamiaceae from Pakistan
>>> To: J.M. Garg , efloraofindia <
>>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, Saroj Kasaju ,
>>> Dinesh Valke , 
>>>
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>>> On Thursday, September 21, 2023, 12:06 AM, Iram mujahid <
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>>>
>>> Dear flora members,
>>> Hope you all are fine and doing great. I am writing to all of you after
>>> a long time. I need to identify a plant species, from Lamiaceae, i assume
>>> the genus is Nepeta. Perhaps Nepeta clarkei. Please confirm. The plant was
>>> collected last month from Gilgit Baltistan, near Deosai plains, Pakistan.
>>> The photographs are not of good quality but i am posting here, if possible.
>>> Many thanks
>>> Iram
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:456467] Zingiber cernuum in FOI

2023-10-09 Thread Saroj Kasaju
OK Sushant ji !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 1:05 PM Sushant More  wrote:

> Dear saroj sir, images posted by me on flicker are very old i haven't
> updated the captions yet and those are Z . nimmonii only i will update it
> soon.
>
> On Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 12:18 pm Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you Dinesh Ji,
>>
>> Yes, I agree with you. There are not many images of the Z. cernuum on the
>> net. We need look for
>> keys and description to short this out.
>> Shushant Ji other images on cernuum is different.
>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=i=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F66499264%40N05%2F9664123786=AOvVaw14Rktvqllr9NSV7QvXjDAZ=1696919631942000=images=vfe=0CBEQjRxqFwoTCKiDld2s6IEDFQAdABAE
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 12:04 PM Dinesh Valke 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks very much, Garg ji, for surfacing this *Zingiber* *cernuum VS
>>> nimmonii*.
>>>
>>> Considering they are different species, we need to see sufficient
>>> observations from the field experts; so that we can easily differentiate
>>> them.
>>> I think they are not easily differentiated visually when we see the
>>> plant in the fruiting phase OR with dehisced fruits.
>>>
>>> Shrikant ji Ingalhalikar's  *Further Flowers of Sahyadri*, the second
>>> among the three field guides to identify plants of northern Western Ghats
>>> of India, based on flowers, have photos of both plants:
>>> *Zingiber cernuum*: page 380
>>> *Zingiber nimmonii*: page 397
>>>
>>> My observation of the *Zingiber cernuum* illustrated at FOI, agrees
>>> well with the illustration in Shrikant ji's FFOS.
>>> My same observation is also illustrated at POWO ...
>>> https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:798324-1/images
>>>
>>> But, all this could be wrong, and corrections will need to be done at
>>> all places.
>>>
>>>
>>> Saroj ji,
>>> Clicking on the link you provided takes us to a page showing a flower
>>> photographed by one of our friends Sushant More.
>>> On that same page, clicking on "View more" leads us to a page showing
>>> two more photos of flowers, looking different.
>>>
>>> Sushant's observation is at
>>> https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/59761452 ... though he must be
>>> correct with his ID, the observation still awaits validation.
>>> Both observations - Sushant's and mine - need to be validated by experts.
>>>
>>> Sushant had discussed *Zingiber nimmonii* with me; he said most of the
>>> plants of *nimmonii* in Western Ghats are wrongly identified as
>>> *cernuum*.
>>> I have requested him to write an article or paper about this myth, based
>>> on which I can shift IDs of my observations to *nimmonii*.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 6:29 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Everywhere is the same image for Z. cernum which looks wrong. This
 should be the correct image for the Z. cernuum ??
 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web==2ahUKEwiwr4DGv-aBAxUCfnAKHQPZClkQFnoECB8QAQ=https%3A%2F%2Fuk.inaturalist.org%2Ftaxa%2F139935-Zingiber-cernuum=AOvVaw25RQUHcFjeu4E0BRCv5A7I=89978449

 Thank you.

 Saroj Kasaju


 On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:22 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Hi, Tabish ji,
> Zingiber cernuum in FOI
> 
> (images attached) should be a syn. of *Zingiber nimmonii* (J.Graham)
> Dalzell  as
> per efi thread
>  though POWO
> says both to be different.
> Pl. check.
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Re: [efloraofindia:456467] ID request impatiens species

2023-10-09 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Please check *Impatiens* *porrecta* Wall.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 1:05 PM PEIMICHON L  wrote:

> Dear members,
> Please help me to identify the impatiens species  from Manipur
> please find the attached file below.
>
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Re: [efloraofindia:456466] Zingiber cernuum in FOI

2023-10-09 Thread Sushant More
Dear saroj sir, images posted by me on flicker are very old i haven't
updated the captions yet and those are Z . nimmonii only i will update it
soon.

On Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 12:18 pm Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:

>
> Thank you Dinesh Ji,
>
> Yes, I agree with you. There are not many images of the Z. cernuum on the
> net. We need look for
> keys and description to short this out.
> Shushant Ji other images on cernuum is different.
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=i=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2F66499264%40N05%2F9664123786=AOvVaw14Rktvqllr9NSV7QvXjDAZ=1696919631942000=images=vfe=0CBEQjRxqFwoTCKiDld2s6IEDFQAdABAE
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 12:04 PM Dinesh Valke 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks very much, Garg ji, for surfacing this *Zingiber* *cernuum VS
>> nimmonii*.
>>
>> Considering they are different species, we need to see sufficient
>> observations from the field experts; so that we can easily differentiate
>> them.
>> I think they are not easily differentiated visually when we see the plant
>> in the fruiting phase OR with dehisced fruits.
>>
>> Shrikant ji Ingalhalikar's  *Further Flowers of Sahyadri*, the second
>> among the three field guides to identify plants of northern Western Ghats
>> of India, based on flowers, have photos of both plants:
>> *Zingiber cernuum*: page 380
>> *Zingiber nimmonii*: page 397
>>
>> My observation of the *Zingiber cernuum* illustrated at FOI, agrees well
>> with the illustration in Shrikant ji's FFOS.
>> My same observation is also illustrated at POWO ...
>> https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:798324-1/images
>>
>> But, all this could be wrong, and corrections will need to be done at all
>> places.
>>
>>
>> Saroj ji,
>> Clicking on the link you provided takes us to a page showing a flower
>> photographed by one of our friends Sushant More.
>> On that same page, clicking on "View more" leads us to a page showing two
>> more photos of flowers, looking different.
>>
>> Sushant's observation is at
>> https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/59761452 ... though he must be
>> correct with his ID, the observation still awaits validation.
>> Both observations - Sushant's and mine - need to be validated by experts.
>>
>> Sushant had discussed *Zingiber nimmonii* with me; he said most of the
>> plants of *nimmonii* in Western Ghats are wrongly identified as *cernuum*
>> .
>> I have requested him to write an article or paper about this myth, based
>> on which I can shift IDs of my observations to *nimmonii*.
>>
>> Regards.
>> Dinesh
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 6:29 PM Saroj Kasaju 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Everywhere is the same image for Z. cernum which looks wrong. This
>>> should be the correct image for the Z. cernuum ??
>>> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web==2ahUKEwiwr4DGv-aBAxUCfnAKHQPZClkQFnoECB8QAQ=https%3A%2F%2Fuk.inaturalist.org%2Ftaxa%2F139935-Zingiber-cernuum=AOvVaw25RQUHcFjeu4E0BRCv5A7I=89978449
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:22 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Hi, Tabish ji,
 Zingiber cernuum in FOI
 
 (images attached) should be a syn. of *Zingiber nimmonii* (J.Graham)
 Dalzell  as
 per efi thread
  though POWO
 says both to be different.
 Pl. check.
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Re: [efloraofindia:456464] I'd request 807 from kashmir

2023-10-09 Thread Mandru Ramesh Chowdary
Very nice saroj sir

Thank you

On Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 12:23 pm Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:

> Yes Mr. Chaowdary,
> Habitat, stem, leaf both sides, whole plant and as far as many images
> showing
> all aspects of the sp. would be helpful for quick and proper ID without a
> tension !
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 11:04 AM Mandru Ramesh Chowdary <
> mandrurameshchowd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes saroj sir, Anaphalis but twig also needed to identify the plant
>> species ...
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> On Sun, 8 Oct, 2023, 6:30 pm Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>>
>>> Anaphalis !
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 1:06 PM Shakir Ahmad 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Help me to identify this plant species from sinthan top kashmir

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Re: [efloraofindia:456463] I'd request 807 from kashmir

2023-10-09 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Yes Mr. Chaowdary,
Habitat, stem, leaf both sides, whole plant and as far as many images
showing
all aspects of the sp. would be helpful for quick and proper ID without a
tension !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 11:04 AM Mandru Ramesh Chowdary <
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> Yes saroj sir, Anaphalis but twig also needed to identify the plant
> species ...
>
> Thank you
>
> On Sun, 8 Oct, 2023, 6:30 pm Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>
>> Anaphalis !
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 1:06 PM Shakir Ahmad 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Help me to identify this plant species from sinthan top kashmir
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[efloraofindia:456462] Re: Boehmeria macrophylla Hornem.

2023-10-09 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Yes Mr. Garg. I forgot to insert the link.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 11:09 AM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> I think you are referring to his images at
> http://flora-peninsula-indica.ces.iisc.ac.in/herbsheet.php?id=9412=7
>
> On Mon, 2 Oct 2023 at 13:35, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>
>> Dear Dr. Rao,
>>
>> Three images from Anuragji, which look like , belong to *Laportea
>> interrupta *(L.) Chew !
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
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[efloraofindia:456461] Re: Zingiber cernuum in FOI

2023-10-09 Thread J.M. Garg
Sabu is the expert in this area and we should follow him.
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On Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 12:16 J.M. Garg,  wrote:

> Sabu ji has provided book references at
> https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/U5SWxAT1Rqc
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>
> On Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 12:09 Tabish,  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Garg ji for bringing this up. Is there a published paper where
>> Zingiber cernuum is treated as a synonym of Zingiber nimmonii? If there
>> isn't, I will wait for such revision of the species by the botanical
>> community. Till then I will continue to follow POWO.
>>Regards
>>Tabish
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>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:07 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Tabish ji,
>>> Zingiber cernuum in FOI
>>> 
>>> (images attached) should be a syn. of *Zingiber nimmonii* (J.Graham)
>>> Dalzell  as
>>> per efi thread 
>>>  though POWO says both to be different.
>>> Pl. check.
>>> --
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>>> J.M.Garg
>>>
>>

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[efloraofindia:456459] Re: Zingiber cernuum in FOI

2023-10-09 Thread J.M. Garg
Sabu ji has provided book references at
https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/U5SWxAT1Rqc
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With regards,
J. M. Garg

On Mon, 9 Oct, 2023, 12:09 Tabish,  wrote:

> Thanks Garg ji for bringing this up. Is there a published paper where
> Zingiber cernuum is treated as a synonym of Zingiber nimmonii? If there
> isn't, I will wait for such revision of the species by the botanical
> community. Till then I will continue to follow POWO.
>Regards
>Tabish
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> The waterhole of flower lovers
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:07 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Hi, Tabish ji,
>> Zingiber cernuum in FOI
>> 
>> (images attached) should be a syn. of *Zingiber nimmonii* (J.Graham)
>> Dalzell  as per efi
>> thread  though
>> POWO says both to be different.
>> Pl. check.
>> --
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>> J.M.Garg
>>
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[efloraofindia:456458] Re: Zingiber cernuum in FOI

2023-10-09 Thread Tabish
Thanks Garg ji for bringing this up. Is there a published paper where
Zingiber cernuum is treated as a synonym of Zingiber nimmonii? If there
isn't, I will wait for such revision of the species by the botanical
community. Till then I will continue to follow POWO.
   Regards
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On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:07 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Hi, Tabish ji,
> Zingiber cernuum in FOI
> 
> (images attached) should be a syn. of *Zingiber nimmonii* (J.Graham)
> Dalzell  as per efi
> thread  though
> POWO says both to be different.
> Pl. check.
> --
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> J.M.Garg
>

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Re: [efloraofindia:456457] Zingiber cernuum in FOI

2023-10-09 Thread Dinesh Valke
Thanks very much, Garg ji, for surfacing this *Zingiber* *cernuum VS
nimmonii*.

Considering they are different species, we need to see sufficient
observations from the field experts; so that we can easily differentiate
them.
I think they are not easily differentiated visually when we see the plant
in the fruiting phase OR with dehisced fruits.

Shrikant ji Ingalhalikar's  *Further Flowers of Sahyadri*, the second among
the three field guides to identify plants of northern Western Ghats of
India, based on flowers, have photos of both plants:
*Zingiber cernuum*: page 380
*Zingiber nimmonii*: page 397

My observation of the *Zingiber cernuum* illustrated at FOI, agrees well
with the illustration in Shrikant ji's FFOS.
My same observation is also illustrated at POWO ...
https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:798324-1/images

But, all this could be wrong, and corrections will need to be done at all
places.


Saroj ji,
Clicking on the link you provided takes us to a page showing a flower
photographed by one of our friends Sushant More.
On that same page, clicking on "View more" leads us to a page showing two
more photos of flowers, looking different.

Sushant's observation is at
https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/59761452 ... though he must be
correct with his ID, the observation still awaits validation.
Both observations - Sushant's and mine - need to be validated by experts.

Sushant had discussed *Zingiber nimmonii* with me; he said most of the
plants of *nimmonii* in Western Ghats are wrongly identified as *cernuum*.
I have requested him to write an article or paper about this myth, based on
which I can shift IDs of my observations to *nimmonii*.

Regards.
Dinesh


On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 6:29 PM Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Everywhere is the same image for Z. cernum which looks wrong. This should
> be the correct image for the Z. cernuum ??
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web==2ahUKEwiwr4DGv-aBAxUCfnAKHQPZClkQFnoECB8QAQ=https%3A%2F%2Fuk.inaturalist.org%2Ftaxa%2F139935-Zingiber-cernuum=AOvVaw25RQUHcFjeu4E0BRCv5A7I=89978449
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 8, 2023 at 2:22 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Hi, Tabish ji,
>> Zingiber cernuum in FOI
>> 
>> (images attached) should be a syn. of *Zingiber nimmonii* (J.Graham)
>> Dalzell  as per efi
>> thread  though
>> POWO says both to be different.
>> Pl. check.
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