[efloraofindia:351850] Re: Rhynchostylis retusa

2020-06-06 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Very pretty.
Thanks for sharing
Pankaj


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> Thanks, Dinesh ji.
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> From: DINESH ALBERTSON 
> Date: Sat 6 Jun, 2020, 12:09 AM
> Subject: Rhynchostylis retusa
> To: J.M. Garg 
>
>
> Sir
> Took some amazing pix of Rhynchostylis retusa from Orchidarium at Aravalli
> Biodiversity Park. You can add it..
>
> Dinesh Albertson W.
> Field Biologist
> Aravalli Biodiversity Park
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Re: [efloraofindia:351849] Plantago coronopus from garden

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks a lot, Thingnam ji

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> Plantago coronopus photographed in a flower show in Delhi.
> Identified by Pankaj Kumar.
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Re: [efloraofindia:351852] Mahe Begonia 2

2020-06-06 Thread Bala Subramaniam
Thank you very much Garg ji
Warm Regards
B. Subramaniam

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> This could fit under B. malabarica, but it is hard to tell from the photo.
> This name currently covers several species- from Mark Hughes in another
> thread.
>
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 15:50, Bala Subramaniam <
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>> Dear All,
>> Request for id of Begonia from Mahe. Photographed in October 2019.
>> Thanks and  regards
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[efloraofindia:351887] Re: Piper cubeba in FOI

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
A reply from another thread from Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee for this image:
Piper peepulloides.
PLM

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 17:47, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Tailed%20Pepper.html
> 
>  -
> from me
> FoI says it is introduced !
> Piper cubeba - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Piper_cubeba
> 
> Piper cubeba L. fil. | Species | India Biodiversity
> Portalindiabiodiversity.org › species › show
> 
> Thank you.
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> Could be something else. But it doesn't look like Piper khasianum because
> in P. khasianum leaves are 6-10 cm long, and flower spikes are much
> shorter, 2-3 cm. In Prashant's plant the spikes look as long as the leaves.
> Tabish
>
> It is not seen anywhere in the following publications on Piper Species in
> India:
> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India
>  -
> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017
> Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the
> *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed 45
> species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of *Peperomia*
> from India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri Lanka as well as
> the Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper was treated under
> six sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present day India. Several
> years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 species of Piper and eight
> of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper that were new,
> although they were not described fully until 1925. A number of new species
> and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller Argoviensis (1871), C.
> de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran et al. (1987), Babu et
> al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007), Lekhak et al. (2012), and
> Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some regional accounts of the genus
> Piper were also published, including Rahiman & Nair (1987) from Karnataka,
> Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010)
> from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim. Long (1984) published an account
> of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that included records from Sikkim, wherein he
> suggested some new synonyms. A critical examination of these publications
> points to their limitations concerning some of the identities and
> nomenclature.
> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II
>  -
> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018
> Abstract In continuation of the taxonomic study of the genus Piper from
> India (Mukherjee, 2017), eighty-four Piper names, reported from India, are
> considered here for their typification, identity, and nomenclature. The
> scrutiny led to the recognition of twenty-four species. Thirty-five
> synonyms are proposed as new ones out of sixty-one treated here. Lectotypes
> are designated for almost all the species recognised here together with
> their synonyms or basionyms. Holotypes are mentioned when applicable. Of
> particular mention are P. hookeri and P. sylvaticum with confused
> identities and lacking proper typification. Corrections are suggested to
> earlier lectotypifications for *P. hymenophyllum* and *P. rhytidocarpum*.
> Extension of distribution to India from Myanmar are recorded for three
> species: *P. acutistigmum, P. leptostachyum *and* P. pothoides*. - from me
>
> Are this links  reliable?
> Shital Chini - Cubeb
> 
> Piper Cubeba
> 
> By the way can we rely on IBP where it is mentioned?
> http://envis.frlht.org/plant_details.php?disp_id=1672
> Thank you.
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> Reliable document on published documents I have given you - from me
>
> Just my opinion as found in the Net ! Basically I have not much knowledge
> about
> Indian flora distribution ! But many sources says it is cultivated in
> India !
> Thank you.
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> But the Prashant ji's posted plant is wild.- from me
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[efloraofindia:351891] Re: Plant information

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Ok, Deepak ji.

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 19:56, deepak kumar singh 
wrote:

> Chatra jharkhand
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 7:54 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Which city are you in?
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>> On Sat 6 Jun, 2020, 7:31 PM deepak kumar singh, <
>> sdeepakkumar...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> It is in my kitchen garden
>>> I was doing something there and I saw this
>>> I haven't seen it earlier that's why I just sent you to know more about
>>> it
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 7:28 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Hi, Deepak ji,
 Where and when was it clicked?


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 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 18:59
 Subject: Plant information
 To: 


 Which flower is this


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[efloraofindia:351890] Re: Plant information

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Which city are you in?

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On Sat 6 Jun, 2020, 7:31 PM deepak kumar singh, 
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> It is in my kitchen garden
> I was doing something there and I saw this
> I haven't seen it earlier that's why I just sent you to know more about it
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 7:28 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Hi, Deepak ji,
>> Where and when was it clicked?
>>
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>> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 18:59
>> Subject: Plant information
>> To: 
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>> Which flower is this
>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:351867] Euodia for validation

2020-06-06 Thread Bala Subramaniam
Garg ji
The plant is cultivated in one place in Mahe. It is a herb. I felt it is
Euodia but could be a different genus altogether. Its correct I'd will be
interesting.
Warm regards
B. Subramaniam

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 14:59 J.M. Garg,  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
> This is something else as looks different from Melicope denhamii
> 
>  (syn:
> *Euodia ridleyi*)
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> Subject: [efloraofindia:351444] Euodia for validation
> To: indiantreepix 
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> Dear All,
> Request for validation of Euodia ridleyi from Mahe. Photographed in
> October 2019.
> Thanks and regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:351870] Re: Succulent for id

2020-06-06 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Euphorbia tithymaloides L.
Syn : Pedilanthus tithymaloides (L.) Poit.
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:52 AM Bala Subramaniam <
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> Resubmitted for id please
> B. Sbramaniam
>
> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020, 12:21 Bala Subramaniam, 
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>> Dear All,
>>  Request for identification of a succulent from Mahe. Photographed in
>> October 2019.
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[efloraofindia:351872] Re: Plant ID

2020-06-06 Thread Sourav Mahmud
I do not see anything like in Bangladesh and I am sure it is not included
in our  Ardisia genus. Thanks Garg ji


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On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 4:41 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> Ardisia species.- from Tapas ji.
>
> I could not find any match as per keys in Flora of Bhutan and as per
> comparative images at Ardisia
> 
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> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 11:12
> Subject: Fwd: Plant ID
> To: efloraofindia 
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> Thanks a lot, Samiran ji.
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> From: Samiran Panday 
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 10:13
> Subject: Plant ID
> To: J.M. Garg 
>
>
> Respected Sir,
> I am attaching here a straggling shrub species from Neora Valley NP, West
> Bengal. The photographs taken in the month of December. Please help to
> identify this.
> Thanking You,
>
> --
> *Dr. Samiran Panday*
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[efloraofindia:351884] Fwd: Images at Dopatrium lobelioides (Retz.) Benth. page

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
-- Forwarded message -
From: J.M. Garg 
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 at 20:07
Subject: Images at Dopatrium lobelioides (Retz.) Benth. page
To: shankarrao 


Images at Dopatrium lobelioides (Retz.) Benth. page

are of Lindernia hyssopoides

and not of Dopatrium lobelioides

as
per images and details herein.
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[efloraofindia:351863] Re: Fwd: ID : Fungus

2020-06-06 Thread Suhaib Yatoo
Any good pictures from identification point of view, not creative I mean.

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> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
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>> Dear All,
>> Please ID for this wood fungus.
>> Name of the fungus : ??
>> Name of the host plant : Zizyphus mauritiana
>> Location : Guwahati (Assam)
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Re: [efloraofindia:351873] TQ-Manipur-04 Unidentied garden flower

2020-06-06 Thread Tabish
Thank you for the lead Saroj. I had explored Pelargonium earlier, but could
not understand the large anthers of this plant.  Came across this nice
article which says that Pelargoniums are divided into 5 groups:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/garden/104139907/pelargoniums-vs-geraniums-how-to-tell-the-difference
My plant appears to belong to the Regal Pelargonium group. The closest I
could get to was Regal Pelargonium 'Kimono':
https://www.gardenia.net/plant/pelargonium-kimono
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> I guess it is Pelargonium grandiflorum hybrid !
> Thank you.
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> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:07 AM Tabish  wrote:
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>> Dear All,
>>I am unable to identify this garden flower photographed from Manipur.
>>Any help will be appreciated.
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[efloraofindia:351885] Fwd: Plant ID

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Kanhaiya Lal ji

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Dear Garg ji,
Doesn't look like Ardisia sp.

Haven't seen the plant. Can't even decide the family...Acanthaceae or
something else...

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> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
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> Ardisia species.- from Tapas ji.
>
> I could not find any match as per keys in Flora of Bhutan and as per
> comparative images at Ardisia
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> Respected Sir,
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:351885] Piper boehmeriifolium from Kalimpong

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks a lot, Prasanta ji.

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Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 18:48
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:351144] Piper boehmeriifolium from Kalimpong
To: J.M. Garg 


Yes it is Piper borhmeriifoliim and the other sent earlier is Piper
peepulloides.
PLM

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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

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Subject: [efloraofindia:351144] Piper boehmeriifolium from Kalimpong
To: efloraofindia 


*Piper boehmeriifolium *photographed in  Kalimpong, West Bengal.
Not sure if wild or cultivated.
Regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:351881] Re: images are taken in Maredumili forest

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Lalithamba ji.
Yes, matches with images at Erycibe paniculata


On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 16:56, lalithamba  wrote:

> It is a scandent shrub, Erycibe paniculata of convolvulaceae
>
> On Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:54:55 UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:
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>> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 20:51
>> Subject: [itpmods:13926]
>> To: 
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>> Dear friends these images are taken in Maredumili forest by a forest
>> guard, it is a small tree/shrub, probably of Primulaceae, he is unable to
>> give the details, I could not find a match from my collection , please help
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[efloraofindia:351882] Fwd: Bacopa rotundifolia in FOI

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Pl. rectify, Tabish ji.

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Subject: Bacopa rotundifolia in FOI
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Hi, Tabish ji,
Images of Bacopa rotundifolia  in FOI

by
Kasim ji, looks different to me as per
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacopa_rotundifolia
https://plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=BARO
https://ucjeps.berkeley.edu/eflora/eflora_display.php?tid=15391
https://www.minnesotawildflowers.info/flower/water-hyssop
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Re: [efloraofindia:351868] TQ-Manipur-04 Unidentied garden flower

2020-06-06 Thread Saroj Kasaju
I guess it is Pelargonium grandiflorum hybrid !
Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju


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>I am unable to identify this garden flower photographed from Manipur.
>Any help will be appreciated.
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[efloraofindia:351875] Re: images are taken in Maredumili forest

2020-06-06 Thread lalithamba
It is a scandent shrub, Erycibe paniculata of convolvulaceae

On Thursday, 4 June 2020 20:54:55 UTC+5:30, JM Garg wrote:
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>
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> Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 20:51
> Subject: [itpmods:13926]
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> Dear friends these images are taken in Maredumili forest by a forest 
> guard, it is a small tree/shrub, probably of Primulaceae, he is unable to 
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Re: [efloraofindia:351875] Re: Succulent for id

2020-06-06 Thread Bala Subramaniam
Thank you very much Saroj ji.
Warm regards,
B. Subramaniam

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 15:39 Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:

> Euphorbia tithymaloides L.
> Syn : Pedilanthus tithymaloides (L.) Poit.
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:52 AM Bala Subramaniam <
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>> Resubmitted for id please
>> B. Sbramaniam
>>
>> On Wed, 3 Jun 2020, 12:21 Bala Subramaniam, <
>> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Dear All,
>>>  Request for identification of a succulent from Mahe. Photographed in
>>> October 2019.
>>> Thanks and regards
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[efloraofindia:351876] Re: Validation of Dianella

2020-06-06 Thread Bala Subramaniam
On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 13:03 Bala Subramaniam, 
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> Dear All,
> Request for validation of Dianella tasmanica cultivated in Mahe.
> Photographed in July 2019.
> Thanks and regards
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[efloraofindia:351900] Fwd: Fwd: SK 2627 28 May 2020

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
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From: J.M. Garg 
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 20:50
Subject: Re: Fwd: SK 2627 28 May 2020
To: Fu Long-Fei 
Cc: Saroj Kasaju 


Hi, Fu ji,
Catalogue of Life

treats *Elatostema punctatum* Wedd. as a synonym of *Elatostema grande *(Wedd.)
P.S.Green.
Is it OK?

On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 16:32, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Fu ji.
>
> On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 16:07, Fu Long-Fei  wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear Saroj
>>
>> This species is E. punctatum. Nepal is type locality. A very rare species.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Fu
>>
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>> 在 2020-06-02 16:04:29,"J.M. Garg"  写道:
>>
>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>
>> I doubt if it is found in Nepal as per Catalogue of Life
>> 
>> and POWO
>> 
>> .
>>
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>> From: Saroj Kasaju 
>> Date: Thu, 28 May 2020 at 21:17
>> Subject: SK 2627 28 May 2020
>> To: efloraindia , J.M. Garg <
>> jmga...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location : Balaju, Raniban, Kathmandu, Nepal.
>> Elevation : 1500 m.
>> Date : 16 July 2017
>> Habitat : Wild
>>
>> Elatostema sessile J. R. & G. Forst. ??
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Not sure if I have posted it earlier. I could not find in the listing.
>>
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[efloraofindia:351906] Re: Piper cubeba in FOI

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Tabish ji.
Sorry, I think I had posted the reply in a wrong thread.

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 20:55, Tabish  wrote:

> Although Piper peepuloides is found in Khasi hills, its flower spikes look
> very different. See a sketch from a paper.
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> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 7:27 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> A reply from another thread from Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee for this image:
>> Piper peepulloides.
>> PLM
>>
>> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 17:47, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>
>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>
>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Tailed%20Pepper.html
>>> 
>>>  -
>>> from me
>>> FoI says it is introduced !
>>> Piper cubeba - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Piper_cubeba
>>> 
>>> Piper cubeba L. fil. | Species | India Biodiversity
>>> Portalindiabiodiversity.org › species › show
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>> Could be something else. But it doesn't look like Piper khasianum
>>> because in P. khasianum leaves are 6-10 cm long, and flower spikes are much
>>> shorter, 2-3 cm. In Prashant's plant the spikes look as long as the leaves.
>>> Tabish
>>>
>>> It is not seen anywhere in the following publications on Piper Species
>>> in India:
>>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India
>>>  -
>>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017
>>> Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the
>>> *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed 45
>>> species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of
>>> *Peperomia* from India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri
>>> Lanka as well as the Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper
>>> was treated under six sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present
>>> day India. Several years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 species
>>> of Piper and eight of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper
>>> that were new, although they were not described fully until 1925. A number
>>> of new species and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller
>>> Argoviensis (1871), C. de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran
>>> et al. (1987), Babu et al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007),
>>> Lekhak et al. (2012), and Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some
>>> regional accounts of the genus Piper were also published, including Rahiman
>>> & Nair (1987) from Karnataka, Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal
>>> Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010) from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim.
>>> Long (1984) published an account of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that
>>> included records from Sikkim, wherein he suggested some new synonyms. A
>>> critical examination of these publications points to their limitations
>>> concerning some of the identities and nomenclature.
>>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II
>>>  -
>>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018
>>> Abstract In continuation of the taxonomic study of the genus Piper from
>>> India (Mukherjee, 2017), eighty-four Piper names, reported from India, are
>>> considered here for their typification, identity, and nomenclature. The
>>> scrutiny led to the recognition of twenty-four species. Thirty-five
>>> synonyms are proposed as new ones out of sixty-one treated here. Lectotypes
>>> are designated for almost all the species recognised here together with
>>> their synonyms or basionyms. Holotypes are mentioned when applicable. Of
>>> particular mention are P. hookeri and P. sylvaticum with confused
>>> identities and lacking proper typification. Corrections are suggested to
>>> earlier lectotypifications for *P. hymenophyllum* and *P. rhytidocarpum*.
>>> Extension of distribution to India from Myanmar are recorded for three
>>> species: *P. acutistigmum, P. leptostachyum *and* P. pothoides*. - from
>>> me
>>>
>>> Are this links  reliable?
>>> Shital Chini - Cubeb
>>> 
>>> Piper Cubeba
>>> 

Re: [efloraofindia:351907] Fwd: Piper Var.

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Tabish ji.
Sorry, I think I had posted the reply in a wrong thread.

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 19:25, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> A reply from another thread from Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee for this post:
> Piper peepulloides.
> PLM
>
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> From: J.M. Garg 
> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 12:46
> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:35] Fwd: Piper Var.
> To: Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee
>
>
> Dear Sir, any help in this id?
>
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> Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 at 20:03
> Subject: [efloraofindia:35] Fwd: Piper Var.
> To: efloraofindia 
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, 13 February 2009 17:03:11 UTC+5:30, Prashant awale wrote:
>>
>> Dear Friends,
>>
>> This one is a "Piper" Var (Piperaceae Family) photographed at "Sohra
>> Forest- Meghalaya". My guess is Piper Cubeba??. Your comments please..
>>
>> Thanks and  best wishes
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Re: [efloraofindia:351898] ziziphus jujuba from Srinagar, Kashmir-GS02062020-1

2020-06-06 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Garg ji, I had seen this paper. Mine was a tree and not low shrub, fruit
larger, fits with type subspecies, that is why I did not right Ziziphus
jujuba subsp. jujuba





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On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:13 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Hi, Singh ji,
> Should it be Ziziphus jujuba subsp. spinosa
> 
>  as
> per attached publication?
>
> On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 15:58, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
>
>>  *Ziziphus jujuba* Miller, Gard. Dict., ed. 8. *Ziziphus* no. 1. 1768.
>> Syn: *Ziziphus vulgaris *Lamk.; *Z.sativa* Gaertn.
>> English names: Jujube, Chinese date, Red Date
>> Local names: Singli, Baryan, Unnab.
>>
>> Shrub or small tree with spreading branches with up to 3 cm
>> spines, branches glabrous. Leaves elliptic-oblong to ovate, glabrous,dark
>> green on upper surface, lighter beneath, margins crenate-serrate, apex
>> obtuse to subacute. Flowers 3-4 mm across, greenish-yellow; fruits globose
>> to oblong, 1-2 cm across, red. Prefers colder climates.
>> Related species Z. mauritianus has much smaller spines rarely
>> exceeding 7 mm and leaves are densely tomentose beneath.
>>  Photographed Botanical Garden, Srinagar Kashmir, July 10, 2013
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:351905] ziziphus jujuba from Srinagar, Kashmir-GS02062020-1

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks a lot, Singh ji.

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 20:29, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:

> Garg ji, I had seen this paper. Mine was a tree and not low shrub, fruit
> larger, fits with type subspecies, that is why I did not right Ziziphus
> jujuba subsp. jujuba
>
>
>
>
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> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:13 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Hi, Singh ji,
>> Should it be Ziziphus jujuba subsp. spinosa
>> 
>>  as
>> per attached publication?
>>
>> On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 15:58, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
>>
>>>  *Ziziphus jujuba* Miller, Gard. Dict., ed. 8. *Ziziphus* no. 1. 1768.
>>> Syn: *Ziziphus vulgaris *Lamk.; *Z.sativa* Gaertn.
>>> English names: Jujube, Chinese date, Red Date
>>> Local names: Singli, Baryan, Unnab.
>>>
>>> Shrub or small tree with spreading branches with up to 3 cm
>>> spines, branches glabrous. Leaves elliptic-oblong to ovate, glabrous,dark
>>> green on upper surface, lighter beneath, margins crenate-serrate, apex
>>> obtuse to subacute. Flowers 3-4 mm across, greenish-yellow; fruits globose
>>> to oblong, 1-2 cm across, red. Prefers colder climates.
>>> Related species Z. mauritianus has much smaller spines rarely
>>> exceeding 7 mm and leaves are densely tomentose beneath.
>>>  Photographed Botanical Garden, Srinagar Kashmir, July 10, 2013
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:351909] Fwd: Piper Var.

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
On further checking, I found that the answer was rightly placed.
It should be a male plant as per GBIF
- Specimen


On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 21:20, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Tabish ji.
> Sorry, I think I had posted the reply in a wrong thread.
>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 19:25, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> A reply from another thread from Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee for this post:
>> Piper peepulloides.
>> PLM
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: J.M. Garg 
>> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 12:46
>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:35] Fwd: Piper Var.
>> To: Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee
>>
>>
>> Dear Sir, any help in this id?
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: JM Garg 
>> Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 at 20:03
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:35] Fwd: Piper Var.
>> To: efloraofindia 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 13 February 2009 17:03:11 UTC+5:30, Prashant awale wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Friends,
>>>
>>> This one is a "Piper" Var (Piperaceae Family) photographed at "Sohra
>>> Forest- Meghalaya". My guess is Piper Cubeba??. Your comments please..
>>>
>>> Thanks and  best wishes
>>> Prashant..
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Re: [efloraofindia:351914] Re: Validation of Dianella

2020-06-06 Thread Saroj Kasaju
I guess yes.
Saroj Kasaju

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 9:50 pm, Bala Subramaniam <
balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Saroj ji. Attaching another image which may perhaps help.
> Warm regards,
> B. Subramaniam
>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 20:17 Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>
>>
>> I guess ID is correct but habit and leaf images would help more.
>> Thank you.
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 5:19 pm, Bala Subramaniam <
>> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Attached herewith close up of flower
>>> B. Subramaniam
>>>
>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 17:02 Bala Subramaniam, <
>>> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>

 On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 13:03 Bala Subramaniam, <
 balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All,
> Request for validation of Dianella tasmanica cultivated in Mahe.
> Photographed in July 2019.
> Thanks and regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:351895] Re: Plant information

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Saroj ji.
Yes, appears to be as per *Amorphophallus paeoniifolius* (Dennst.) Nicolson


On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 20:09, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

>
> Amorphophallus paeoniifolius ??
> Thank you.
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 8:12 pm, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Ok, Deepak ji.
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 19:56, deepak kumar singh <
>> sdeepakkumar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Chatra jharkhand
>>>
>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 7:54 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Which city are you in?

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 On Sat 6 Jun, 2020, 7:31 PM deepak kumar singh, <
 sdeepakkumar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It is in my kitchen garden
> I was doing something there and I saw this
> I haven't seen it earlier that's why I just sent you to know more
> about it
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 7:28 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> Hi, Deepak ji,
>> Where and when was it clicked?
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message -
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>> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 18:59
>> Subject: Plant information
>> To: 
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>>
>> Which flower is this
>>
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Re: [efloraofindia:351894] Re: Validation of Dianella

2020-06-06 Thread Saroj Kasaju
I guess ID is correct but habit and leaf images would help more.
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 5:19 pm, Bala Subramaniam <
balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Attached herewith close up of flower
> B. Subramaniam
>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 17:02 Bala Subramaniam, 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 13:03 Bala Subramaniam, <
>> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> Request for validation of Dianella tasmanica cultivated in Mahe.
>>> Photographed in July 2019.
>>> Thanks and regards
>>> B. Subramaniam
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Re: [efloraofindia:351899] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Yes, Dinesh ji,
We should go by Expert advice of Dr. Ravindran and Dr. Mukherjee.
I further checked in GBIF
 and it seems to
match as per specimen

.

On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 20:51, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:

> Just to get some clarification !
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 6:40 PM Dinesh Valke 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much Garg ji for analysing and following up on validating
>> this ID.
>> Going through the discussion, if I am not mistaking, the ID, I assume is
>> concluded as *Piper attenuatum*.
>> Regards.
>> Dinesh
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:44 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks a lot, Prasanta ji.
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>> From: Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee
>>> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 12:25
>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:213872] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57
>>> To: J.M. Garg 
>>>
>>>
>>> Distribution of *Piper attenuatum  *in India :West Benglal,
>>> Sikkim,Assam,Meghalaya, Arunachal Pradesh, Tamilnadu,Kerala, & Karnataka
>>> and also Bhutan,Myanmar and China .
>>> .
>>> Please refer to Nomenclatural Notes on* Piper (Piperaceae) *III. BY
>>> Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee Phytotaxa  441(3):p. 2-3. 2020.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 5:39 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
 As per POWO
 ,
 *Piper attenuatum *Buch.-Ham. ex Miq. does not have any distribution
 in S.India.
 Even this taxa itself does not find any mention in the following:
 Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India
  -
 PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017
 Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the
 *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed 45
 species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of
 *Peperomia* from India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri
 Lanka as well as the Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper
 was treated under six sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present
 day India. Several years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 species
 of Piper and eight of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper
 that were new, although they were not described fully until 1925. A number
 of new species and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller
 Argoviensis (1871), C. de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran
 et al. (1987), Babu et al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007),
 Lekhak et al. (2012), and Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some
 regional accounts of the genus Piper were also published, including Rahiman
 & Nair (1987) from Karnataka, Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal
 Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010) from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim.
 Long (1984) published an account of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that
 included records from Sikkim, wherein he suggested some new synonyms. A
 critical examination of these publications points to their limitations
 concerning some of the identities and nomenclature.
 Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II
  -
 PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018
 Abstract In continuation of the taxonomic study of the genus Piper from
 India (Mukherjee, 2017), eighty-four Piper names, reported from India, are
 considered here for their typification, identity, and nomenclature. The
 scrutiny led to the recognition of twenty-four species. Thirty-five
 synonyms are proposed as new ones out of sixty-one treated here. Lectotypes
 are designated for almost all the species recognised here together with
 their synonyms or basionyms. Holotypes are mentioned when applicable. Of
 particular mention are P. hookeri and P. sylvaticum with confused
 identities and lacking proper typification. Corrections are suggested to
 earlier lectotypifications for *P. hymenophyllum* and *P.
 rhytidocarpum*. Extension of distribution to India from Myanmar are
 recorded for three species: *P. acutistigmum, P. leptostachyum *and*
 P. pothoides*.

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 Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 at 01:02
 Subject: [efloraofindia:213872] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57
 To: efloraofindia 



 [image: ... Agumbe]
 
 Agumbe ... Dakshina Kannada, Karnataka
 *Date*: 26 

[efloraofindia:351913] Re: Piper cubeba in FOI

2020-06-06 Thread Tabish
Please point to a description of Piper peepuloides, if you find it.
   Tabish
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On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 9:47 PM Tabish  wrote:

> Thank you Garg ji,
>The male spikes do appear to be of the size of spikes of Prashant's
> plant! Good investigation!
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> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 9:34 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> On further checking, I found that the answer was rightly placed.
>> It should be a male plant as per GBIF
>> - Specimen
>> 
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 21:19, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Tabish ji.
>>> Sorry, I think I had posted the reply in a wrong thread.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 20:55, Tabish  wrote:
>>>
 Although Piper peepuloides is found in Khasi hills, its flower spikes
 look very different. See a sketch from a paper.
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 On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 7:27 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> A reply from another thread from Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee for this
> image:
> Piper peepulloides.
> PLM
>
> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 17:47, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>
>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>
>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Tailed%20Pepper.html
>> 
>>  -
>> from me
>> FoI says it is introduced !
>> Piper cubeba - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Piper_cubeba
>> 
>> Piper cubeba L. fil. | Species | India Biodiversity
>> Portalindiabiodiversity.org › species › show
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>> Could be something else. But it doesn't look like Piper khasianum
>> because in P. khasianum leaves are 6-10 cm long, and flower spikes are 
>> much
>> shorter, 2-3 cm. In Prashant's plant the spikes look as long as the 
>> leaves.
>> Tabish
>>
>> It is not seen anywhere in the following publications on Piper
>> Species in India:
>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India
>>  -
>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017
>> Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the
>> *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed
>> 45 species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of
>> *Peperomia* from India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri
>> Lanka as well as the Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper
>> was treated under six sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present
>> day India. Several years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 
>> species
>> of Piper and eight of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper
>> that were new, although they were not described fully until 1925. A 
>> number
>> of new species and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller
>> Argoviensis (1871), C. de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran
>> et al. (1987), Babu et al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007),
>> Lekhak et al. (2012), and Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some
>> regional accounts of the genus Piper were also published, including 
>> Rahiman
>> & Nair (1987) from Karnataka, Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal
>> Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010) from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim.
>> Long (1984) published an account of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that
>> included records from Sikkim, wherein he suggested some new synonyms. A
>> critical examination of these publications points to their limitations
>> concerning some of the identities and nomenclature.
>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II
>>  -
>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018
>> Abstract In continuation of 

Re: [efloraofindia:351915] Re: Validation of Dianella

2020-06-06 Thread Bala Subramaniam
Thank you Saroj ji
Warm regards
B. Subramaniam

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 22:18 Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:

> I guess yes.
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 9:50 pm, Bala Subramaniam <
> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Saroj ji. Attaching another image which may perhaps help.
>> Warm regards,
>> B. Subramaniam
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 20:17 Saroj Kasaju,  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I guess ID is correct but habit and leaf images would help more.
>>> Thank you.
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 5:19 pm, Bala Subramaniam <
>>> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Attached herewith close up of flower
 B. Subramaniam

 On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 17:02 Bala Subramaniam, <
 balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 13:03 Bala Subramaniam, <
> balasubramaniam1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>> Request for validation of Dianella tasmanica cultivated in Mahe.
>> Photographed in July 2019.
>> Thanks and regards
>> B. Subramaniam
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Re: [efloraofindia:351896] TQ-Manipur-04 Unidentied garden flower

2020-06-06 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Tabish.
Saroj Kasaju

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 5:04 pm, Tabish  wrote:

> Thank you for the lead Saroj. I had explored Pelargonium earlier, but
> could not understand the large anthers of this plant.  Came across this
> nice article which says that Pelargoniums are divided into 5 groups:
>
> https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/homed/garden/104139907/pelargoniums-vs-geraniums-how-to-tell-the-difference
> My plant appears to belong to the Regal Pelargonium group. The closest I
> could get to was Regal Pelargonium 'Kimono':
> https://www.gardenia.net/plant/pelargonium-kimono
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> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 3:31 PM Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
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>> I guess it is Pelargonium grandiflorum hybrid !
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 10:07 AM Tabish  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>I am unable to identify this garden flower photographed from Manipur.
>>>Any help will be appreciated.
>>>Best wishes
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[efloraofindia:351900] Fwd: Image by Aung SI at Flora of Karnataka

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Pl. correct.

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Subject: Image by Aung SI at Flora of Karnataka
To: shankarrao 


Hi, Shankar Rao ji,
Image by Aung SI at Flora of Karnataka

should
be of Pittosporum napaulense

as
per images and details herein.
Pl. correct.
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[efloraofindia:351909] Re: Piper cubeba in FOI

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
On further checking, I found that the answer was rightly placed.
It should be a male plant as per GBIF
- Specimen


On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 21:19, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Tabish ji.
> Sorry, I think I had posted the reply in a wrong thread.
>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 20:55, Tabish  wrote:
>
>> Although Piper peepuloides is found in Khasi hills, its flower spikes
>> look very different. See a sketch from a paper.
>>Tabish
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>>
>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 7:27 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>>> A reply from another thread from Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee for this image:
>>> Piper peepulloides.
>>> PLM
>>>
>>> On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 17:47, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

 Some earlier relevant feedback:

 http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Tailed%20Pepper.html
 
  -
 from me
 FoI says it is introduced !
 Piper cubeba - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Piper_cubeba
 
 Piper cubeba L. fil. | Species | India Biodiversity
 Portalindiabiodiversity.org › species › show
 
 Thank you.
 Saroj Kasaju

 Could be something else. But it doesn't look like Piper khasianum
 because in P. khasianum leaves are 6-10 cm long, and flower spikes are much
 shorter, 2-3 cm. In Prashant's plant the spikes look as long as the leaves.
 Tabish

 It is not seen anywhere in the following publications on Piper Species
 in India:
 Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India
  -
 PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017
 Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the
 *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed 45
 species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of
 *Peperomia* from India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri
 Lanka as well as the Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper
 was treated under six sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present
 day India. Several years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 species
 of Piper and eight of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper
 that were new, although they were not described fully until 1925. A number
 of new species and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller
 Argoviensis (1871), C. de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran
 et al. (1987), Babu et al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007),
 Lekhak et al. (2012), and Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some
 regional accounts of the genus Piper were also published, including Rahiman
 & Nair (1987) from Karnataka, Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal
 Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010) from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim.
 Long (1984) published an account of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that
 included records from Sikkim, wherein he suggested some new synonyms. A
 critical examination of these publications points to their limitations
 concerning some of the identities and nomenclature.
 Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II
  -
 PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018
 Abstract In continuation of the taxonomic study of the genus Piper from
 India (Mukherjee, 2017), eighty-four Piper names, reported from India, are
 considered here for their typification, identity, and nomenclature. The
 scrutiny led to the recognition of twenty-four species. Thirty-five
 synonyms are proposed as new ones out of sixty-one treated here. Lectotypes
 are designated for almost all the species recognised here together with
 their synonyms or basionyms. Holotypes are mentioned when applicable. Of
 particular mention are P. hookeri and P. sylvaticum with confused
 identities and lacking proper typification. Corrections are suggested to
 earlier lectotypifications for *P. hymenophyllum* and *P.
 rhytidocarpum*. Extension of distribution to India from Myanmar are

Re: [efloraofindia:351916] Fwd: Piper Var.

2020-06-06 Thread Tabish
This 2016 paper treats Piper mullesua Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don (1825, p. 20) as
synonym of Piper peepuloides Roxb.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/307099058_Taxonomic_notes_on_the_genus_Piper_Piperaceae
 The description of *Piper mullesua *at FOC

mentions flowers are bisexual and spikes are almost spherical. Notes in the
FOC description also talk about that species being wrongly described as
having long male inflorescence.
My understanding from all this is that *Piper peepuloides* has small spikes
which are bisexual.
  Any clarification is welcome.
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On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 9:33 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> On further checking, I found that the answer was rightly placed.
> It should be a male plant as per GBIF
> - Specimen
> 
>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 21:20, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Tabish ji.
>> Sorry, I think I had posted the reply in a wrong thread.
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 19:25, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> A reply from another thread from Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee for this post:
>>> Piper peepulloides.
>>> PLM
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
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>>> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 12:46
>>> Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:35] Fwd: Piper Var.
>>> To: Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Sir, any help in this id?
>>>
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>>> Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 at 20:03
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:35] Fwd: Piper Var.
>>> To: efloraofindia 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, 13 February 2009 17:03:11 UTC+5:30, Prashant awale wrote:

 Dear Friends,

 This one is a "Piper" Var (Piperaceae Family) photographed at "Sohra
 Forest- Meghalaya". My guess is Piper Cubeba??. Your comments please..

 Thanks and  best wishes
 Prashant..

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Re: [efloraofindia:351892] Re: Plant information

2020-06-06 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Amorphophallus paeoniifolius ??
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 8:12 pm, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Ok, Deepak ji.
>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 19:56, deepak kumar singh 
> wrote:
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>> Chatra jharkhand
>>
>
>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 7:54 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>>> On Sat 6 Jun, 2020, 7:31 PM deepak kumar singh, <
>>> sdeepakkumar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 It is in my kitchen garden
 I was doing something there and I saw this
 I haven't seen it earlier that's why I just sent you to know more about
 it

 On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 7:28 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Hi, Deepak ji,
> Where and when was it clicked?
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 18:59
> Subject: Plant information
> To: 
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> Which flower is this
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Re: [efloraofindia:351897] Re: Plant information

2020-06-06 Thread Saroj Kasaju
Thank you Mr. Garg!
Saroj Kasaju



On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 8:37 pm, deepak kumar singh 
wrote:

> Ok, thanks.
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 8:18 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Saroj ji.
>> Yes, appears to be as per *Amorphophallus paeoniifolius* (Dennst.)
>> Nicolson
>> 
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 20:09, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Amorphophallus paeoniifolius ??
>>> Thank you.
>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>
>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 8:12 pm, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Ok, Deepak ji.

 On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 19:56, deepak kumar singh <
 sdeepakkumar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Chatra jharkhand
>

> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 7:54 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> Which city are you in?
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>> On Sat 6 Jun, 2020, 7:31 PM deepak kumar singh, <
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>>
>>> It is in my kitchen garden
>>> I was doing something there and I saw this
>>> I haven't seen it earlier that's why I just sent you to know more
>>> about it
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 7:28 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Hi, Deepak ji,
 Where and when was it clicked?


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 From: deepak kumar singh 
 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 18:59
 Subject: Plant information
 To: 


 Which flower is this


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Re: [efloraofindia:351904] ID

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
*Dasymaschalon tibetense *X.L.Hou is reported only from Tibet as per POWO

.
Furthermore, as per publication
,
A new species, Dasymaschalon tibetense, has been described from South
Tibet, China. The species is related to D. rostratum, but can be easily
distinguished by its *rounded apex of fruitlets *and its 7.7–9.5 cm long
petals.
Here in the posted image, apex of the fruitlet is not rounded. I could not
find any specimen of this in GBIF .

In view, I think we can take it as *Dasymaschalon longiflorum *as per GBIF
 and Specimen

and
earlier postings at Dasymaschalon longiflorum


On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 08:04, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks a lot, Deshworjit ji.
>
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> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 06:56
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:351281] ID
> To: J.M. Garg 
>
>
> Respected  Professor and Members
> Thanks a lot. Earlier, I thought is Goniothalamus sp. . I got another
> diagnostic character of the plant which I am enclosed in this mail.
>
>
> Best Regards
> Deshworjit SN
>
> On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 21:39, J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> Thanks, Navendu ji.
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>> From: navendu page
>> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 21:26
>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:351281] ID
>> To: J.M. Garg 
>>
>>
>>   Dasymaschalon  could be longiflorum or tibetense (according to Dr.
>> Pankaj Sahani)
>>
>> Navendu
>>
>> On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 16:37, J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>>>
>>> It is a shrub.
>>>
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>>> Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 at 15:53
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:351281] ID
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Re: [efloraofindia:351908] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57

2020-06-06 Thread Dinesh Valke
Thank you very much, Garg ji.
Regards.
Dinesh

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 8:36 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Yes, Dinesh ji,
> We should go by Expert advice of Dr. Ravindran and Dr. Mukherjee.
> I further checked in GBIF
>  and it seems
> to match as per specimen
> 
> .
>
> On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 20:51, Saroj Kasaju  wrote:
>
>> Just to get some clarification !
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 6:40 PM Dinesh Valke 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you very much Garg ji for analysing and following up on validating
>>> this ID.
>>> Going through the discussion, if I am not mistaking, the ID, I assume is
>>> concluded as *Piper attenuatum*.
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:44 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks a lot, Prasanta ji.

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 From: Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee
 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 12:25
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:213872] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57
 To: J.M. Garg 


 Distribution of *Piper attenuatum  *in India :West Benglal,
 Sikkim,Assam,Meghalaya, Arunachal Pradesh, Tamilnadu,Kerala, & Karnataka
 and also Bhutan,Myanmar and China .
 .
 Please refer to Nomenclatural Notes on* Piper (Piperaceae) *III. BY
 Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee Phytotaxa  441(3):p. 2-3. 2020.

 On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 5:39 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
> As per POWO
> ,
> *Piper attenuatum *Buch.-Ham. ex Miq. does not have any distribution
> in S.India.
> Even this taxa itself does not find any mention in the following:
> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India
>  -
> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017
> Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the
> *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed 45
> species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of
> *Peperomia* from India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri
> Lanka as well as the Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper
> was treated under six sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present
> day India. Several years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 
> species
> of Piper and eight of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper
> that were new, although they were not described fully until 1925. A number
> of new species and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller
> Argoviensis (1871), C. de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran
> et al. (1987), Babu et al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007),
> Lekhak et al. (2012), and Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some
> regional accounts of the genus Piper were also published, including 
> Rahiman
> & Nair (1987) from Karnataka, Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal
> Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010) from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim.
> Long (1984) published an account of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that
> included records from Sikkim, wherein he suggested some new synonyms. A
> critical examination of these publications points to their limitations
> concerning some of the identities and nomenclature.
> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II
>  -
> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018
> Abstract In continuation of the taxonomic study of the genus Piper
> from India (Mukherjee, 2017), eighty-four Piper names, reported from 
> India,
> are considered here for their typification, identity, and nomenclature. 
> The
> scrutiny led to the recognition of twenty-four species. Thirty-five
> synonyms are proposed as new ones out of sixty-one treated here. 
> Lectotypes
> are designated for almost all the species recognised here together with
> their synonyms or basionyms. Holotypes are mentioned when applicable. Of
> particular mention are P. hookeri and P. sylvaticum with confused
> identities and lacking proper typification. Corrections are suggested to
> earlier lectotypifications for *P. hymenophyllum* and *P.
> rhytidocarpum*. Extension of distribution to India from Myanmar are
> recorded for three species: *P. acutistigmum, P. leptostachyum *and*
> P. pothoides*.
>
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> From: Dinesh Valke 
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 at 01:02
> Subject: [efloraofindia:213872] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57
> To: efloraofindia 

[efloraofindia:351912] Re: Piper cubeba in FOI

2020-06-06 Thread Tabish
Thank you Garg ji,
   The male spikes do appear to be of the size of spikes of Prashant's
plant! Good investigation!
Tabish
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On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 9:34 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> On further checking, I found that the answer was rightly placed.
> It should be a male plant as per GBIF
> - Specimen
> 
>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 21:19, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Tabish ji.
>> Sorry, I think I had posted the reply in a wrong thread.
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 20:55, Tabish  wrote:
>>
>>> Although Piper peepuloides is found in Khasi hills, its flower spikes
>>> look very different. See a sketch from a paper.
>>>Tabish
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 7:27 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 A reply from another thread from Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee for this
 image:
 Piper peepulloides.
 PLM

 On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 17:47, J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>
> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Tailed%20Pepper.html
> 
>  -
> from me
> FoI says it is introduced !
> Piper cubeba - Wikipediaen.wikipedia.org › wiki › Piper_cubeba
> 
> Piper cubeba L. fil. | Species | India Biodiversity
> Portalindiabiodiversity.org › species › show
> 
> Thank you.
> Saroj Kasaju
>
> Could be something else. But it doesn't look like Piper khasianum
> because in P. khasianum leaves are 6-10 cm long, and flower spikes are 
> much
> shorter, 2-3 cm. In Prashant's plant the spikes look as long as the 
> leaves.
> Tabish
>
> It is not seen anywhere in the following publications on Piper Species
> in India:
> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India
>  -
> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017
> Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the
> *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed 45
> species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of
> *Peperomia* from India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri
> Lanka as well as the Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper
> was treated under six sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present
> day India. Several years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 
> species
> of Piper and eight of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper
> that were new, although they were not described fully until 1925. A number
> of new species and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller
> Argoviensis (1871), C. de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran
> et al. (1987), Babu et al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007),
> Lekhak et al. (2012), and Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some
> regional accounts of the genus Piper were also published, including 
> Rahiman
> & Nair (1987) from Karnataka, Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal
> Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010) from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim.
> Long (1984) published an account of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that
> included records from Sikkim, wherein he suggested some new synonyms. A
> critical examination of these publications points to their limitations
> concerning some of the identities and nomenclature.
> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II
>  -
> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018
> Abstract In continuation of the taxonomic study of the genus Piper
> from India (Mukherjee, 2017), eighty-four Piper names, reported from 
> India,
> are considered here for their typification, identity, and nomenclature. 
> The
> scrutiny led to the recognition of twenty-four species. Thirty-five
> synonyms are proposed as new ones out of sixty-one treated here. 
> 

Re: [efloraofindia:351848] Plantago indica from Sirmaur distt, HP

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks a lot, Tabish ji

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On Sat 6 Jun, 2020, 11:12 AM Tabish,  wrote:

> *Plantago indica* photographed by (late) Krishan Lal ji, in Sirmaur
> distt, Himachal Pradesh.
>Best wishes
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Re: [efloraofindia:351851] Mahe Begonia 2

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
This could fit under B. malabarica, but it is hard to tell from the photo.
This name currently covers several species- from Mark Hughes in another
thread.

On Mon, 1 Jun 2020 at 15:50, Bala Subramaniam 
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> Dear All,
> Request for id of Begonia from Mahe. Photographed in October 2019.
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:351917] Bilaspur grass id

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks a lot, Manoj ji

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On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 7:48 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> Thanks, Bala ji
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> Subject: [efloraofindia:351660] Bilaspur grass id
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> Dear All,
> Request for Id of a grass from Bilaspur. Photographed in May 2020.
> Thanks and regards
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Fwd: [efloraofindia:351917] Plant of Central Java 12

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
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Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:186887] Plant of Central Java 12
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Thank you Garg Ji.
Best Wishes
Pudji Widodo
Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
PURWOKERTO 53122 *INDONESIA*


On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 4:23 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:

> I think this may be Melicope denhamii
> 
>  as
> per GBIF  -
> Images  & Specimen
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> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 at 07:11
> Subject: [efloraofindia:186887] Plant of Central Java 12
> To: efloraofindia 
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>
> Dear Sirs,
>
> A shrub ca 1 m tall.  Location Purwokerto. Id is requested.  Thank you.
>
> Pudji Widodo
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Re: [efloraofindia:351922] Re: Validation of Dianella

2020-06-06 Thread Mahadeswara
The ID is correct. This is a common foliage pot plant grown in  home 
gardens here. In fact I have grown this in Chennai & here.

On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 10:28:54 PM UTC+5:30, balasubramaniam1952 
wrote:
>
> Thank you Saroj ji
> Warm regards
> B. Subramaniam
>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 22:18 Saroj Kasaju, > 
> wrote:
>
>> I guess yes.
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 9:50 pm, Bala Subramaniam > > wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Saroj ji. Attaching another image which may perhaps help.
>>> Warm regards,
>>> B. Subramaniam
>>>
>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 20:17 Saroj Kasaju, >> > wrote:
>>>

 I guess ID is correct but habit and leaf images would help more.
 Thank you.
 Saroj Kasaju

 On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 5:19 pm, Bala Subramaniam >>> > wrote:

> Attached herewith close up of flower
> B. Subramaniam
>
> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 17:02 Bala Subramaniam,  > wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, 13:03 Bala Subramaniam, > > wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> Request for validation of Dianella tasmanica cultivated in Mahe. 
>>> Photographed in July 2019.
>>> Thanks and regards
>>> B. Subramaniam
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Re: [efloraofindia:351924] Re: Crinum Lily for ID : Friends of the Trees Exhibition, Mumbai : 05JUN20 : AK-5

2020-06-06 Thread Mahadeswara
Yes .  It looks closure to it. 

On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 11:27:41 AM UTC+5:30, Aarti S. Khale wrote:
>
> Mahadeswara Ji,
> Would this be Crinum procerum var. splendens?
> Regards,
> Aarti
>
> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 11:21 AM Aarti S. Khale  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot Mahadeswara Ji.
>> Regards,
>> Aarti
>>
>> On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 10:04:00 AM UTC+5:30, Mahadeswara wrote:
>>>
>>> *Crinum procerum *-  one of the red varieties.  
>>>
>>> On Friday, June 5, 2020 at 11:15:14 AM UTC+5:30, Aarti S. Khale wrote:

 Again seen at the Friends of the Trees Exhibition in Feb, 20.
 Quite close to the ones I have seen in Lalbagh, Bangalore.
 But the leaves were purple.
 Aarti

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Re: [efloraofindia:351919] Bilaspur grass id

2020-06-06 Thread Bala Subramaniam
Thank you very much Manoj ji and Garg ji.
Warm regards
B. Subramaniam

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> Thanks a lot, Manoj ji
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> On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 7:48 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
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>> Subject: [efloraofindia:351660] Bilaspur grass id
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>> Dear All,
>> Request for Id of a grass from Bilaspur. Photographed in May 2020.
>> Thanks and regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:351920] Fwd: Piper Var.

2020-06-06 Thread J.M. Garg
Thanks, Tabish ji.
There has been a lot of confusion about the long spike of male plants in *Piper
peepulloides*.
As the id comes from Dr. Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee, there should not be any
doubt about it.
As per his recent publication, *Nomenclatural notes on Piper (Piperaceae)
from India III
(2020)*
Abstract: This paper, in continuation of earlier ones (Mukherjee 2017,
2018), deals with the taxonomic studies of the genus *Piper *Linnaeus
(Piperaceae) from India. It includes information on the identity,
typification and nomenclature of ten additional species. The results report
four new names: *Piper courtallensis *P. K. Mukh. *nom. nov., Piper
kurgianum* P. K. Mukh. *nom.nov, Piper lamarckianum *P. K. Mukh. *nom. nov*.,
and *Piper travancorianum *P. K. Mukh. *nom. nov.* It also deals with the
lectotypification and nomenclature of *P. argyrophyllum *Miquel, *P.
attenuatum* Miquel and *P. talbotii *C. de Candolle in addition to
supersession of previous lectotypification with new ones for *P.
leptostachyum *Miquel and *P. peepuloides *Roxburgh. Additionally, new
synonyms are added for *P. obtusistigmum *C.de Candolle and* P. talbotii *C.
de Candolle.* Identities of P. peepuloides Roxburgh, P. mullesua Don and P.
rhytidocarpum J. D. Hooker as distinct species are reasserted.* An overall
evaluation of their identity and nomenclature including synonyms is
included. Necessary explanatory notes are added for each of the species
which are dealt alphabetically.

He has considered Suwanpakhdee's 2016 publication in this.

It says *Piper mullesua *is considered here as distinct from *P.
peepuloides *because it differs in the characters of the female spikes.
These are long pedicelled and spherical to ovoid in *P. mullesua *and
subsessile and cylindrical in *P. peepuloides.*


On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 22:29, Tabish  wrote:

> This 2016 paper treats Piper mullesua Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don (1825, p. 20) as
> synonym of Piper peepuloides Roxb.
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/307099058_Taxonomic_notes_on_the_genus_Piper_Piperaceae
>  The description of *Piper mullesua *at FOC
> 
> mentions flowers are bisexual and spikes are almost spherical. Notes in the
> FOC description also talk about that species being wrongly described as
> having long male inflorescence.
> My understanding from all this is that *Piper peepuloides* has small
> spikes which are bisexual.
>   Any clarification is welcome.
>   Tabish
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> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 9:33 PM J.M. Garg  wrote:
>
>> On further checking, I found that the answer was rightly placed.
>> It should be a male plant as per GBIF
>> - Specimen
>> 
>>
>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 21:20, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Tabish ji.
>>> Sorry, I think I had posted the reply in a wrong thread.
>>>
>>> On Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 19:25, J.M. Garg  wrote:
>>>
 A reply from another thread from Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee for this post:
 Piper peepulloides.
 PLM

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 From: J.M. Garg 
 Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2020 at 12:46
 Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:35] Fwd: Piper Var.
 To: Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee


 Dear Sir, any help in this id?

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 From: JM Garg 
 Date: Tue, 26 May 2020 at 20:03
 Subject: [efloraofindia:35] Fwd: Piper Var.
 To: efloraofindia 




 On Friday, 13 February 2009 17:03:11 UTC+5:30, Prashant awale wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> This one is a "Piper" Var (Piperaceae Family) photographed at "Sohra
> Forest- Meghalaya". My guess is Piper Cubeba??. Your comments please..
>
> Thanks and  best wishes
> Prashant..
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