Yes, Dinesh ji, We should go by Expert advice of Dr. Ravindran and Dr. Mukherjee. I further checked in GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=8215152> and it seems to match as per specimen <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1441302259946FrtpmooqoJwMuzjN> .
On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 20:51, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > Just to get some clarification ! > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 6:40 PM Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Thank you very much Garg ji for analysing and following up on validating >> this ID. >> Going through the discussion, if I am not mistaking, the ID, I assume is >> concluded as *Piper attenuatum*. >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 1:44 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks a lot, Prasanta ji. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee >>> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 12:25 >>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:213872] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57 >>> To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Distribution of *Piper attenuatum *in India :West Benglal, >>> Sikkim,Assam,Meghalaya, Arunachal Pradesh, Tamilnadu,Kerala, & Karnataka >>> and also Bhutan,Myanmar and China . >>> . >>> Please refer to Nomenclatural Notes on* Piper (Piperaceae) *III. BY >>> Prasanta Kumar Mukherjee Phytotaxa 441(3):p. 2-3. 2020. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 5:39 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>> As per POWO >>>> <http://plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:680505-1>, >>>> *Piper attenuatum *Buch.-Ham. ex Miq. does not have any distribution >>>> in S.India. >>>> Even this taxa itself does not find any mention in the following: >>>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India >>>> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.289.2.9> - >>>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 289 (2): 188–192, 2017 >>>> Abstract More than a century ago, the comprehensive account of the >>>> *Piperaceae* in the Flora of British India by Hooker (1886) listed 45 >>>> species of Piper (including *Pothomorphe*) and ten species of >>>> *Peperomia* from India, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Nepal, Philippines, Sri >>>> Lanka as well as the Indonesian islands Java and Sumatra. The genus Piper >>>> was treated under six sections, wherein he listed 28 species from present >>>> day India. Several years later, C. de Candolle (1923) recognized 95 species >>>> of Piper and eight of Peperomia from India, including 41 species of Piper >>>> that were new, although they were not described fully until 1925. A number >>>> of new species and varieties were also added by Van Heurck & Müller >>>> Argoviensis (1871), C. de Candolle (1910, 1912), Gamble (1924), Ravindran >>>> et al. (1987), Babu et al. (1993), Gajurel et al. (2001 a & b, 2007), >>>> Lekhak et al. (2012), and Mathew et al. (2016). In the meantime, some >>>> regional accounts of the genus Piper were also published, including Rahiman >>>> & Nair (1987) from Karnataka, Gajurel et al. (2002, 2008) from Arunachal >>>> Pradesh, and Das et al. (2010) from Terai Duars, Darjeeling, and Sikkim. >>>> Long (1984) published an account of *Piperaceae* from Bhutan that >>>> included records from Sikkim, wherein he suggested some new synonyms. A >>>> critical examination of these publications points to their limitations >>>> concerning some of the identities and nomenclature. >>>> Nomenclatural notes on Piper Linn. (Piperaceae) from India II >>>> <https://www.biotaxa.org/Phytotaxa/article/view/phytotaxa.338.1.2> - >>>> PRASANTA KUMAR MUKHERJEE- Phytotaxa 338 (1): 017–032, 2018 >>>> Abstract In continuation of the taxonomic study of the genus Piper from >>>> India (Mukherjee, 2017), eighty-four Piper names, reported from India, are >>>> considered here for their typification, identity, and nomenclature. The >>>> scrutiny led to the recognition of twenty-four species. Thirty-five >>>> synonyms are proposed as new ones out of sixty-one treated here. Lectotypes >>>> are designated for almost all the species recognised here together with >>>> their synonyms or basionyms. Holotypes are mentioned when applicable. Of >>>> particular mention are P. hookeri and P. sylvaticum with confused >>>> identities and lacking proper typification. Corrections are suggested to >>>> earlier lectotypifications for *P. hymenophyllum* and *P. >>>> rhytidocarpum*. Extension of distribution to India from Myanmar are >>>> recorded for three species: *P. acutistigmum, P. leptostachyum *and* >>>> P. pothoides*. >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2015 at 01:02 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:213872] Agumbe :: Piper FOR ID :: DVJAN57 >>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: ... Agumbe] >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F16331699121&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfHaV-Nyq1So1znJoW7JBFeI_Tyfw> >>>> Agumbe ... Dakshina Kannada, Karnataka >>>> *Date*: 26 DEC 2014 ... *Altitude*: about 700 m asl >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *Piper* ¿ species ? ... (family: Piperaceae) >>>> [image: Piper sp.] >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F16176193326&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcc6bsaWhz2NjqS43u1-_9ICHqqLA> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: Piper sp.] >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F16202047595&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfnIlzQIXHjSqKGQRrzji9hrVzOvA> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: Piper sp.] >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F15579648924&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcNxxgFCZlUuIKiA9_SJO_lACYYKw> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: Piper sp.] >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F16014558838&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfpriqO7gcb6vJ5Nx6IX0BLOB-W9g> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than >>>> 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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