Re: Re: Re: wrapper funcs to cvs cmds
Not quite sure why you would need this, but maybe expect will do your thing. i m working on a product which need a good data storage. now we decided to go for cvs as a data storage. now the product GUI is written in VB. now i want this VB prog to call cvs commands. for this i thougt the best way will be to write a DLL of wrapper funcs on existing cvs cmds in C programming language. i think the same is done in wincvs. expect is one way to do but how this can be done without using expect? i would like to do it without using expect. how this can be done using IPC? any one with experience in developing cvs client will be of much help. mehul. __ Give your Company an email address like ravi @ ravi-exports.com. Sign up for Rediffmail Pro today! Know more. http://www.rediffmailpro.com/signup/ ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Branches and Dates
I thought I understood this, but the evidence is against me ... We have a situation where we need to see the state of a branch at a point of time in the past. Problem is that if I checkout the branch and then update ... -D date ... what I appear to get is the state of the module at that date with the branches collapsed. For example, a file that existed only on the trunk mysteriously appears in the branch if I use a date after the time it was added to the trunk. So what are the interactions between branches and dates? #!/mjh ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
problem while checking out a file
Hi all, I have a system user and cvs user with the same name. And i have a group CVS with users who can access the repoistory. I have changed the group of the repoistory folder to CVS. When i try to checkout a file it is giving me the following error. cvs checkout -P uClinux-dist/config.in (in directory C:\) cvs checkout: Empty password used - try 'cvs login' with a real password cvs [checkout aborted]: authorization failed: server 172.16.12.152 rejected access to /opt for user ssatya ssatya is a user in the group CVS. the folder permissions are as follows : drwxrwxr-x3 rtslinux CVS 4096 Nov 14 19:56 CVSROOT drwxrwxr-x 17 rtslinux CVS 4096 Nov 14 20:10 uClinux-dist the /etc/group file has the following entries : rtslinux:x:501 ssatya:x:503 CVS:x:505:ssatya,rtslinux not able to figure what is the problem. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: Newbie question re: ssh
So, one of the pros of this approach is that it is more secure than the :pserver method, because the passwords are being transmitted over ssh? One of the cons is that the password will need to be entered frequently? Greg A. Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16 2:20 PM [ On Friday, November 15, 2002 at 22:20:39 (-0800), Mike Ayers wrote: ] Subject: Re: Newbie question re: ssh Robert Koster wrote: I have set up a repository, and want to use :ext w/ SSH (without keys). Pros/cons? Con: this isn't possible. ssh operating without keys will forcibly invoke username/password login, which will gag the CVS client. Huh? I haven't tried without keys in a while but I'm pretty sure my client still just asks me for the password and lets me type it -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Planix, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; VE3TCP; Secrets of the Weird [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: Newbie question re: ssh
No. You can set up the CVS server and the client side with passwordless access via RSH keys. It's in the SSH docs. That way you never have to enter a password after SSH is set up. ...Ken Robert Koster wrote: So, one of the pros of this approach is that it is more secure than the :pserver method, because the passwords are being transmitted over ssh? One of the cons is that the password will need to be entered frequently? Greg A. Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/16 2:20 PM [ On Friday, November 15, 2002 at 22:20:39 (-0800), Mike Ayers wrote: ] Subject: Re: Newbie question re: ssh Robert Koster wrote: I have set up a repository, and want to use :ext w/ SSH (without keys). Pros/cons? Con: this isn't possible. ssh operating without keys will forcibly invoke username/password login, which will gag the CVS client. Huh? I haven't tried without keys in a while but I'm pretty sure my client still just asks me for the password and lets me type it ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: Branches and Dates
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have a situation where we need to see the state of a branch at a point of time in the past. Problem is that if I checkout the branch and then update ... -D date ... what I appear to get is the state of the module at that date with the branches collapsed. For example, a file that existed only on the trunk mysteriously appears in the branch if I use a date after the time it was added to the trunk. You need to specify both the branch and the date. Unfortunately, not all CVS subcommands allow both -D and -r at the same time, but I believe that update is one that does, despite what the documentation may say. -Larry Jones Aw Mom, you act like I'm not even wearing a bungee cord! -- Calvin ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: How to make update -d ignore a top-level directory?
Shankar Unni writes: * Be able to sit at the root of my work area (where I did the cvs checkout), and be able to do a simple cvs update -d. * Have the cvs update -d fetch everything except a single top-level directory I don't want. Unfortunately, that is not possible with the current design of CVS. There is no way for update to distinguish between a newly-added directory and an old directory that you explicitly chose not to check out in the first place. -Larry Jones You just can't ever be too careful. -- Calvin ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: problem while checking out a file
Jaya Kumari writes: cvs checkout -P uClinux-dist/config.in (in directory C:\) cvs checkout: Empty password used - try 'cvs login' with a real password cvs [checkout aborted]: authorization failed: server 172.16.12.152 rejected access to /opt for user ssatya That means that either the username and password or the repository you specified were not valid. Since you got a message saying that you didn't specify a password at all, my guess would be that that's the problem. -Larry Jones My life needs a rewind/erase button. -- Calvin ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: Newbie question re: ssh
On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 00:25, Robert Koster wrote: I have set up a repository, and want to use :ext w/ SSH (without keys). Pros/cons? Con: this isn't possible. ssh operating without keys will forcibly invoke username/password login, which will gag the CVS client. Huh? I haven't tried without keys in a while but I'm pretty sure my client still just asks me for the password and lets me type it Apparently some of the graphic clients don't understand the password prompt. The command line client is fine, though. Jenn V. -- Do you ever wonder if there's a whole section of geek culture you miss out on by being a geek? - Dancer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://anthill.echidna.id.au/~jenn/ ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Deleting a module
Hi, How can I delete a module in the repository? Regards, Giohanna _ Charla con tus amigos en línea mediante MSN Messenger: http://messenger.microsoft.com/es ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: Deleting a module
Giohanna MEndez wrote: How can I delete a module in the repository? Just backup that module and remove it from the repository. -Mahantesh. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
RE: How to make update -d ignore a top-level directory?
Larry Jones writes: Unfortunately, that is not possible with the current design of CVS. That's what I figured. Oh well, time for a module move. Actually, what I really need to do is to reorganize the top-level modules - the mistake was that our original core code was not neatly checked in in the form of a module; instead, all the top-level directories under our source tree (src, lib, doc) were checked in as modules. Sigh! Thanks all, -- Shankar. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: Newbie question re: ssh
[ On Tuesday, November 19, 2002 at 08:25:45 (-0500), Robert Koster wrote: ] Subject: Re: Newbie question re: ssh So, one of the pros of this approach is that it is more secure than the :pserver method, because the passwords are being transmitted over ssh? The password encapsulation and obfuscation is really only a small part of the whole transport layer security issue. TCP is not secure (in any meaning of that word), at least not alone over plain old IPv4. Even the transport security is only a small part of the whole CVS security issue. CVS is not designed or implemented to be a security tool -- it's at the level of /bin/ed in security terms, not /bin/login. With CVSpserver there's lots of opportunity for one user to spoof another -- i.e. there's _NO_ accountability in pserver. One of the cons is that the password will need to be entered frequently? SSH can be configured to use any of many forms of authentication. There's no fundamental need to ever type passwords to it when it's used as a remote job execution facility for CVS. -- Greg A. Woods +1 416 218-0098;[EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Planix, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; VE3TCP; Secrets of the Weird [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: New member
Patrick Malaison writes: I am a new member of the list as well as of CVS. I am reading through the Open source development book and also ordered the Quick reference guide. Do you have any other suggestions for primer? I suggest reading through the manual, if you haven't already: http://www.cvshome.org/docs/manual/cvs.html My goal is to set it up as a remote CVS server. How's the security using pserver, what is the best client giving the fact that I will have a multi-OS user bed? There is no security using pserver. Use the :ext: method with SSH (secure shell) rather than RSH as the transport. -Larry Jones My dreams are getting way too literal. -- Calvin ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
RE: New member
Patrick Malaison writes: My goal is to set it up as a remote CVS server. How's the security using pserver, what is the best client giving the fact that I will have a multi-OS user bed? As has been said, ssh rocks. The other part of your question doesn't make a lot of sense, if you think about it. What's the best language to use, given that I will have an international user bed? Obviously, the best client will depend on what OS the user is using. *You* can use whatever client you want. Also, best client depends on the what the user likes. Power-users will probably find the command-line cvs clients available for Linux, FreeBSD, Cygwin, OS-X, etc perfectly servicable. Others may feel drawn to the GUI clients made for most platforms. Web clients exist that run on every platform that runs a browser. Best isn't much criteria to go by...they *all* work. ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: New member
Thanks for the info although you quoted me wrong on my second question, your answer made sense. So to be more specific, I will be setting up CVS for a multi platform, multi OS environment where the developers will work either/or remotely in the office, some of them are very junior and some of them highly experience. I will also be supporting those users so I was thinking of using a web client so that I would only have to support one CVS client. By best I meant easy to support, easy to learn, lots of functionality and a high quality product that is stable, and offer good security . Do any of the web clients fit that bill? Zing, Mark wrote: Patrick Malaison writes: My goal is to set it up as a remote CVS server. How's the security using pserver, what is the best client giving the fact that I will have a multi-OS user bed? As has been said, ssh rocks. The other part of your question doesn't make a lot of sense, if you think about it. "What's the best language to use, given that I will have an international user bed?" Obviously, the "best" client will depend on what OS the user is using. *You* can use whatever client you want. Also, "best" client depends on the what the user likes. Power-users will probably find the command-line cvs clients available for Linux, FreeBSD, Cygwin, OS-X, etc perfectly servicable. Others may feel drawn to the GUI clients made for most platforms. Web clients exist that run on every platform that runs a browser. "Best" isn't much criteria to go by...they *all* work. -- Patrick Malaison mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
RE: New member
Thanks for the info although you quoted me wrong on my second question, your answer made sense. 'twas meant as an analogy. s'okay, you mispelled my name :-) So to be more specific, I will be setting up CVS for a multi platform, multi OS environment where the developers will work either/or remotely in the office, some of them are very junior and some of them highly experience. I will also be supporting those users so I was thinking of using a web client so that I would only have to support one CVS client. There are fans of both WinCVS and jCVS. I'm not a GUI user myself, but in those cases where I had to choose, I prefer the Java GUI clients because then (as you indicated) I only had one client to support for any platform (Windows, Linux, Mac, etc). If your junior coders know how to use vi, then they could certainly handle cmd-line cvs. On the other hand, if they live and breathe in TextPad or some other Windows editor, then WinCVS or jCVS would seem to fit the bill. You may consider this an opportunity to upgrade the skills of your junior coders. I've been in a situation similar to yours a couple of times, and what we did in each case was take a week to teach the junior members how to use Cygwin (or U/Win, in one shop), or true telnet/ssh to a Unix dev box, and make the investment in training the team to learn how to use a real development environment. Most were able to make the transition, and the whole group benefited as a result. Those who couldn't learn how to work in a command-line environment...well, perhaps t'were best that those mis-hires were identified sooner rather than later. It's a tough world. Any client -- any at all -- should be able to bridge the working locally vs working remotely gap. By best I meant easy to support, easy to learn, lots of functionality and a high quality product that is stable, and offer good security. Do any of the web clients fit that bill? I'm not aware of any web-based client that is good for anything except browsing the tree (as opposed to real development). Besides, the security of any web-based client would be entirely dependent on whether you had an SSL certificate for HTTP/S, or a private VPN/intranet, etc. -MZ ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: Branches and Dates
On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 10:16:47AM -0500, Larry Jones wrote: You need to specify both the branch and the date. Unfortunately, not all CVS subcommands allow both -D and -r at the same time [...] Why not? I could see the reason being any of: a. because they don't always make sense together b. a thing that could be fixed simply if someone were motivated c. a thing that could be fixed, but only with difficulty d. a thing that should be fixed, but cannot be, due to insurmountable internal problems or even different situations for the different subcommands. Please don't take this as criticism, Larry; that's not my intent! I'm merely trying to draw you out on the reasons. It'd be good to have that bit of your expertise on the record, in case someone tripping across this thread in the archives decides it's a project worth taking on :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont.[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | / Just Say No to the faceless cannonfodder stereotype. - http://www.ainurin.net/ (an Orc site) ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: Branches and Dates
Eric Siegerman writes: On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 10:16:47AM -0500, Larry Jones wrote: You need to specify both the branch and the date. Unfortunately, not all CVS subcommands allow both -D and -r at the same time [...] Why not? Existing inconsistency coupled with profound indecision over exactly how to best provide the capability. Some places in CVS allow you to specify a branch and a date in a single package, like update -j's branch:date syntax. Other places, like update, allow specifying -r and -D at the same time. Still other places, most notably diff, allow -r and -D at the same time, but interpret them as specifying two different revisions rather than jointly specifying a single revision. Trying to unify all that is a daunting task, particulary when you try to ensure that the result will be upward compatible (for all of clients, servers, and users). -Larry Jones That's one of the remarkable things about life. It's never so bad that it can't get worse. -- Calvin ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: Branches and Dates
On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 10:06, Larry Jones wrote: Eric Siegerman writes: On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 10:16:47AM -0500, Larry Jones wrote: You need to specify both the branch and the date. Unfortunately, not all CVS subcommands allow both -D and -r at the same time [...] Why not? Existing inconsistency coupled with profound indecision over exactly how to best provide the capability. Some places in CVS allow you to specify a branch and a date in a single package, like update -j's branch:date syntax. Other places, like update, allow specifying -r and -D at the same time. Still other places, most notably diff, allow -r and -D at the same time, but interpret them as specifying two different revisions rather than jointly specifying a single revision. Trying to unify all that is a daunting task, particulary when you try to ensure that the result will be upward compatible (for all of clients, servers, and users). Thank you for clarifying that. Hrm. Given that some places (such as diff) need to be able to specify -r and -D to mean two distinct revisions, would the branch:date syntax be the most effective answer? And given that it's an expansion of functionality, is there a problem with implementing it in the next version and then allowing other development teams to add it as they go? Jenn V. -- Do you ever wonder if there's a whole section of geek culture you miss out on by being a geek? - Dancer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://anthill.echidna.id.au/~jenn/ ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
Re: New member
Zieg, Mark wrote: Thanks for the info although you quoted me wrong on my second question, your answer made sense. 'twas meant as an analogy. s'okay, you mispelled my name :-) So to be more specific, I will be setting up CVS for a multi platform, multi OS environment where the developers will work either/or remotely in the office, some of them are very junior and some of them highly experience. I will also be supporting those users so I was thinking of using a web client so that I would only have to support one CVS client. There are fans of both WinCVS and jCVS. I'm not a GUI user myself, but in To add my salt to this soup, I'd say also that some IDE have this functionality well integrated. For example NetBeans, the Java IDE, has it well integrated and is really easy to use. But if you don't develop Java, you may or may not have it in the IDE you users select. WinCVS and jCVS are fine tools, but they are eparate from the IDE, which users may or may not like. --Pascal ___ Info-cvs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-cvs
