Re: CVS security audit?

2003-12-22 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, December 19, 2003 at 21:00:46 (-0500), Larry Jones wrote: ]
 Subject: Re: CVS security audit?

 The objection is that CVS was never *designed*, or even *intended*, to
 be secure.  An audit will affect my confidence not one whit -- it's
 sufficient to keep honest people honest, nothing more.

Indeed.  I couldn't agree more.

Furthermore CVS was designed to use any sufficiently transparent remote
job execution protocol that could have a wrapper put around it such that
it works like rsh.  What more could anyone ask for than to leave both
communications _and_ security to some other specialized tools?

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CVS security audit?

2003-12-19 Thread Eric Siegerman
Just out of curiosity, is this rash of CVS security fixes coming
out of the savannah.gnu.org audit?

Let me be a bit of a gadfly: I presume the Savannah folks are
security-auditing CVS along with other relevent tools, even if
they aren't the source of the current bug reports.

Now, I seem to recall that one of the big objections to pserver
is that CVS has never had a security audit.  Once the Savannah
audit is finished, that objection goes away.  How will that
affect peoples' level of confidence in pserver and the like?

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Re: CVS security audit?

2003-12-19 Thread Eric Siegerman
[following up my own post; sorry]

On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 06:08:40PM -0500, I wrote:
 How will [a security audit having been done]
 affect peoples' level of confidence in pserver and the like?

In another thread, on Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 11:18:57AM -0500, Jim.Hyslop wrote:
 Well, clearly pserver is not secure because the password is sent effectively
 in plain text [...]

Woops, I'd forgotten about that!  Ok, as regards pserver itself,
my question was pretty dumb.  But how about GSSAPI or Kerberos
with encryption?

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Re: CVS security audit?

2003-12-19 Thread Larry Jones
Eric Siegerman writes:
 
 Now, I seem to recall that one of the big objections to pserver
 is that CVS has never had a security audit.  Once the Savannah
 audit is finished, that objection goes away.  How will that
 affect peoples' level of confidence in pserver and the like?

The objection is that CVS was never *designed*, or even *intended*, to
be secure.  An audit will affect my confidence not one whit -- it's
sufficient to keep honest people honest, nothing more.

-Larry Jones

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