Re: RHEL9 migration

2022-09-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2022-09-27 at 09:00 -0400, Stephen Smoogen wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Sept 2022 at 17:56, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> 
> > Here's my thoughts on rhel9 upgrades.
> > 
> > We have 188 RHEL7 or RHEL8 instances (counting both vm's and bare
> > hardware).
> > 
> > 
> > Some will just not move anytime soon:
> > 
> > 
> Is it possible to look at these as 'why does this need fedmsg?' 'what
> happens if it doesn't have fedmsg', and  'do we need it?'

FWIW, while I'm one of the holdouts on still needing PDC, I don't think
anything I do with PDC relies on it publishing messages. Don't know if
any other use cases of PDC do.

I do think we need to sort out the key use cases of PDC before getting
rid of it, but leaving it on RHEL 8 seems like it'd be a reasonable
choice. We really ought to be able to sort out getting off PDC before
RHEL 8 kicks the bucket. I'm kinda kicking the tires on a plan to move
critpath handling into Bodhi at the moment, for one thing.
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Re: RHEL9 migration

2022-09-27 Thread Erol Keskin
> badges (hopefully now ongoing?)

Yes it is, i hope that i will complete the list about what should be done in 1 
or 2 days.

> Some will just not move anytime soon:
> 
> busgateway - needs fedmsg, only in epel7

Just as an information, fedbadges project as well currently depends on fedmsg. 
But i think that it will not take too long to replace it with fedora-messaging. 
Replacing fedmsg with fedora-messaging on fedbadges project is one of the goals 
that i'm hoping to achieve as soon as i can.
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Re: RHEL9 migration

2022-09-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 3:20 PM Neal Gompa  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 3:01 PM Stephen Smoogen  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Sept 2022 at 17:56, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> >>
> >> Here's my thoughts on rhel9 upgrades.
> >>
> >> We have 188 RHEL7 or RHEL8 instances (counting both vm's and bare 
> >> hardware).
> >>
> >>
> >> Some will just not move anytime soon:
> >>
> >
> > Is it possible to look at these as 'why does this need fedmsg?' 'what 
> > happens if it doesn't have fedmsg', and  'do we need it?'
> >
> > mailman01 is one where maybe not having it on fedmsg wouldn't be earth 
> > shattering but it also has the bigger problem of all its libraries being 
> > FTBFS in Fedora and being retired from there. At which point we go with 'do 
> > we need to run mailing lists?'
> >
>
> The mailman stack is FTBFS on Fedora right now because of a single
> library (python-aiosmtpd) not working properly because of changes in
> the SSL module in Python 3.10. The whole stack can branch into RHEL 9
> just fine.
>

And apparently that issue was fixed. Branching Mailman in EPEL9 is
waiting on people adding infra-sig and epel-packagers-sig to
dependencies of the stack.

See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2030061



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Re: RHEL9 migration

2022-09-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 3:01 PM Stephen Smoogen  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 26 Sept 2022 at 17:56, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
>>
>> Here's my thoughts on rhel9 upgrades.
>>
>> We have 188 RHEL7 or RHEL8 instances (counting both vm's and bare hardware).
>>
>>
>> Some will just not move anytime soon:
>>
>
> Is it possible to look at these as 'why does this need fedmsg?' 'what happens 
> if it doesn't have fedmsg', and  'do we need it?'
>
> mailman01 is one where maybe not having it on fedmsg wouldn't be earth 
> shattering but it also has the bigger problem of all its libraries being 
> FTBFS in Fedora and being retired from there. At which point we go with 'do 
> we need to run mailing lists?'
>

The mailman stack is FTBFS on Fedora right now because of a single
library (python-aiosmtpd) not working properly because of changes in
the SSL module in Python 3.10. The whole stack can branch into RHEL 9
just fine.

>>
>> busgateway - needs fedmsg, only in epel7
>> fedimg - needs fedmsg. will be replaced by some other solution
>> github2fedmsg - needs fedmsg, only in epel7
>> mailman01 - needs fedmsg
>> nuancer - needs fedmsg
>> osbs - needs new container build system
>> pdc - needs to be retired
>>
>> Finally, some I am not sure about and would like input:
>>
>> mbs - is this ready for rhel9? Should we move to Fedora instead?
>> odcs - how about this?
>>
>> So, as far as help goes, getting mirrormanager2 and pagure all in epel9 
>> would be great...
>> coming up with a fedmsg-irc replacement, and getting limnoria in epel9 seem 
>> to be the best ways right now.
>> I can start on the easier reinstalls.
>

Getting Pagure and MM2 branched into EPEL 9 shouldn't be too bad,
hopefully. I did it the last go around for EPEL 8 with not too much
effort.



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Re: RHEL9 migration

2022-09-27 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Mon, 26 Sept 2022 at 17:56, Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> Here's my thoughts on rhel9 upgrades.
>
> We have 188 RHEL7 or RHEL8 instances (counting both vm's and bare
> hardware).
>
>
> Some will just not move anytime soon:
>
>
Is it possible to look at these as 'why does this need fedmsg?' 'what
happens if it doesn't have fedmsg', and  'do we need it?'

mailman01 is one where maybe not having it on fedmsg wouldn't be earth
shattering but it also has the bigger problem of all its libraries being
FTBFS in Fedora and being retired from there. At which point we go with 'do
we need to run mailing lists?'


> busgateway - needs fedmsg, only in epel7
> fedimg - needs fedmsg. will be replaced by some other solution
> github2fedmsg - needs fedmsg, only in epel7
> mailman01 - needs fedmsg
> nuancer - needs fedmsg
> osbs - needs new container build system
> pdc - needs to be retired
>
> Finally, some I am not sure about and would like input:
>
> mbs - is this ready for rhel9? Should we move to Fedora instead?
> odcs - how about this?
>
> So, as far as help goes, getting mirrormanager2 and pagure all in epel9
> would be great...
> coming up with a fedmsg-irc replacement, and getting limnoria in epel9
> seem to be the best ways right now.
> I can start on the easier reinstalls.
>

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