Re: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final / teams?
Very cool! Thanks Martin :-) -Original Message- From: Martin Owens Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 5:33 AM To: Maren Hachmann ; brynn ; Inkscape-Devel ; Inkscape-Docs ; C R ; Sylvain Chiron ; Eduard Braun Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final / teams? This should do it: https://inkscape.org/en/*moderators/ A user can click "Request to join" and brynn can approve them. Also listed on: https://inkscape.org/en/teams/ Best Regards, Martin Owens On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 12:57 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Hi Brynn, > > Am 12.05.2017 um 12:27 schrieb brynn: > > > > Hi Friends, > >Since there have been no further comments regarding website > > moderation policy, I've made the changes to the CoC that we > > discussed. > - It's not published yet, was that intentional or were you waiting > for > some confirmation? > > > > >Most of those who commented about being retroactive, thought > > since the policy was not existing at the time, we should not delete > > images uploaded before this date (or the members who uploaded > > them). > > (So we can vote those old ones that I flagged, back in now.) > - Done. There are still a couple of images where Martin voted to > remove, > but we didn't... those are stuck in the queue. > > > > >I started to put out a call for volunteer moderators (on the > > To-Do List page, and also posting in forums and mailing lists) > > except I > > wasn't sure about the wording. I was going to say something like > > "Volunteers are needed to join the Website Team as Moderators." > > > >But then I realized there's no such thing as a Website Team, > > and > > actually it's a Website Editors teamwhich I'm not sure if > > moderators > > would be subset of editors... Hhmm, maybe so? > - I'd say we can make one. Would you like to provide the icon? > > > > >Anyway, I seem to recall there was some mention of possibly > > creating a Moderation Team. But before I post something like > > "Volunteers are needed to form a/join the Website Moderation Team" > > maybe > > we should decide if Moderators need their own team? > > > >This might be another subject, but pursuant to all the > > recent > > discussion and movement towards getting the French manual > > translated, so > > we can find update and expand it, I wonder if we need to think > > about a > > Documentation Team? > - I think it's not urgent, because communication might happen within > the > Booktype website (they have groups and chat). Generally, I believe it > would be a good idea. > > > > >Since Martin is the website guru, he probably has an idea > > what > > would be best here. Personally, I can't think of a reason for a > > formal > > moderation team. But there may be one (or more), that make sense, > > that I > > just never realized. > - Permissions ;-) > > Maren > > > > >Thoughts, comments? > > > > All best, > > brynn > > > > > > -Original Message- From: brynn > > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:04 AM > > To: Inkscape-Devel ; Inkscape-Docs ; C R ; Maren Hachmann ; Martin > > Owens > > ; Sylvain Chiron ; Eduard Braun > > Subject: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final > > > > Hi Friends, > >It seems like this last message about moderation policy got > > buried in > > all the recent important chatter. So I'm re-sending the most vital > > parts of it, > > so we can finish this up. For convenience, > > https://inkscape.org/community/coc/ > > And here's the suggested change: > > > > In the Guidelines for User-Submitted Content section, replace > > > > "Art and other content submitted to the Inkscape website should > > adhere > > to the > > following rules:" > > > > with > > > > "Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape > > (e.g. > > created > > with Inkscape, created for use with Inkscape, showing how to work > > with > > Inkscape, > > etc.). We reserve the right to remove any content that does not > > seem > > appropriate > > or does not adhere to the following obligatory rules:" > > > > C R said > > > > > > Little thing, but "created for use with Inkscape" could cover > > > things > > like just regular images... in fact it could cover just about > > anything, even things made with Adobe Illustrator. I'd si
Re: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final / teams?
Hi Maren, Martin, I seem to be having some trouble publishing. The gear icon spins but nothing else happens. All best, brynn -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:57 AM To: brynn ; Inkscape-Devel ; Inkscape-Docs ; C R ; Martin Owens ; Sylvain Chiron ; Eduard Braun Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final / teams? Hi Brynn, Am 12.05.2017 um 12:27 schrieb brynn: > Hi Friends, >Since there have been no further comments regarding website > moderation policy, I've made the changes to the CoC that we discussed. - It's not published yet, was that intentional or were you waiting for some confirmation? >Most of those who commented about being retroactive, thought > since the policy was not existing at the time, we should not delete > images uploaded before this date (or the members who uploaded them). > (So we can vote those old ones that I flagged, back in now.) - Done. There are still a couple of images where Martin voted to remove, but we didn't... those are stuck in the queue. >I started to put out a call for volunteer moderators (on the > To-Do List page, and also posting in forums and mailing lists) except I > wasn't sure about the wording. I was going to say something like > "Volunteers are needed to join the Website Team as Moderators." > >But then I realized there's no such thing as a Website Team, and > actually it's a Website Editors teamwhich I'm not sure if moderators > would be subset of editors... Hhmm, maybe so? - I'd say we can make one. Would you like to provide the icon? >Anyway, I seem to recall there was some mention of possibly > creating a Moderation Team. But before I post something like > "Volunteers are needed to form a/join the Website Moderation Team" maybe > we should decide if Moderators need their own team? > >This might be another subject, but pursuant to all the recent > discussion and movement towards getting the French manual translated, so > we can find update and expand it, I wonder if we need to think about a > Documentation Team? - I think it's not urgent, because communication might happen within the Booktype website (they have groups and chat). Generally, I believe it would be a good idea. >Since Martin is the website guru, he probably has an idea what > would be best here. Personally, I can't think of a reason for a formal > moderation team. But there may be one (or more), that make sense, that I > just never realized. - Permissions ;-) Maren >Thoughts, comments? > > All best, > brynn > > > -Original Message- From: brynn > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:04 AM > To: Inkscape-Devel ; Inkscape-Docs ; C R ; Maren Hachmann ; Martin Owens > ; Sylvain Chiron ; Eduard Braun > Subject: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final > > Hi Friends, >It seems like this last message about moderation policy got > buried in > all the recent important chatter. So I'm re-sending the most vital > parts of it, > so we can finish this up. For convenience, > https://inkscape.org/community/coc/ > And here's the suggested change: > > In the Guidelines for User-Submitted Content section, replace > > "Art and other content submitted to the Inkscape website should adhere > to the > following rules:" > > with > > "Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape (e.g. > created > with Inkscape, created for use with Inkscape, showing how to work with > Inkscape, > etc.). We reserve the right to remove any content that does not seem > appropriate > or does not adhere to the following obligatory rules:" > > C R said >> Little thing, but "created for use with Inkscape" could cover things > like just regular images... in fact it could cover just about > anything, even things made with Adobe Illustrator. I'd simply cut that > bit out. > > Hhmm.yes, I see what you mean. My interpretation of that, is for > things > like extensions or filters. But maybe there's a better way to say it? > > What about "created to be installed in Inkscape"? Or maybe just "to be > installed in Inkscape"? That would eliminate any kind of image. Any other > suggestions out there? Eduard? > > I wonder about adding "Inkscape Project"? Such as: > "Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape or the > Inkscape > Project (e.g. created" > That would cover things like a website graphics or page mockup, board > meeting > transcript, etc. > > C R said >> If there's a significant amount of undesirable content currently, it's > probably best to make it retroacti
Re: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final / teams?
>Since there have been no further comments regarding website > moderation policy, I've made the changes to the CoC that we discussed. - It's not published yet, was that intentional or were you waiting for some confirmation? There was a weird glitch when I clicked Publish. It resulted in the little gear icon spinning around endlessly. But when I refreshed the page, it showed me that it had been published. So yes, I intended to publish. - I'd say we can make one. Would you like to provide the icon? Haha, well you've seen my icon-making skills! Oh, it seems there already is a Moderation Team! I'll go and make those posts to try an recruit more moderators now. If you have done it already, I'll try again to publish the CoC edit. Thanks, brynn -Original Message- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 4:57 AM To: brynn ; Inkscape-Devel ; Inkscape-Docs ; C R ; Martin Owens ; Sylvain Chiron ; Eduard Braun Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final / teams? Hi Brynn, Am 12.05.2017 um 12:27 schrieb brynn: > Hi Friends, >Since there have been no further comments regarding website > moderation policy, I've made the changes to the CoC that we discussed. - It's not published yet, was that intentional or were you waiting for some confirmation? >Most of those who commented about being retroactive, thought > since the policy was not existing at the time, we should not delete > images uploaded before this date (or the members who uploaded them). > (So we can vote those old ones that I flagged, back in now.) - Done. There are still a couple of images where Martin voted to remove, but we didn't... those are stuck in the queue. >I started to put out a call for volunteer moderators (on the > To-Do List page, and also posting in forums and mailing lists) except I > wasn't sure about the wording. I was going to say something like > "Volunteers are needed to join the Website Team as Moderators." > >But then I realized there's no such thing as a Website Team, and > actually it's a Website Editors teamwhich I'm not sure if moderators > would be subset of editors... Hhmm, maybe so? - I'd say we can make one. Would you like to provide the icon? >Anyway, I seem to recall there was some mention of possibly > creating a Moderation Team. But before I post something like > "Volunteers are needed to form a/join the Website Moderation Team" maybe > we should decide if Moderators need their own team? > >This might be another subject, but pursuant to all the recent > discussion and movement towards getting the French manual translated, so > we can find update and expand it, I wonder if we need to think about a > Documentation Team? - I think it's not urgent, because communication might happen within the Booktype website (they have groups and chat). Generally, I believe it would be a good idea. >Since Martin is the website guru, he probably has an idea what > would be best here. Personally, I can't think of a reason for a formal > moderation team. But there may be one (or more), that make sense, that I > just never realized. - Permissions ;-) Maren >Thoughts, comments? > > All best, > brynn > > > -Original Message- From: brynn > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:04 AM > To: Inkscape-Devel ; Inkscape-Docs ; C R ; Maren Hachmann ; Martin Owens > ; Sylvain Chiron ; Eduard Braun > Subject: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final > > Hi Friends, >It seems like this last message about moderation policy got > buried in > all the recent important chatter. So I'm re-sending the most vital > parts of it, > so we can finish this up. For convenience, > https://inkscape.org/community/coc/ > And here's the suggested change: > > In the Guidelines for User-Submitted Content section, replace > > "Art and other content submitted to the Inkscape website should adhere > to the > following rules:" > > with > > "Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape (e.g. > created > with Inkscape, created for use with Inkscape, showing how to work with > Inkscape, > etc.). We reserve the right to remove any content that does not seem > appropriate > or does not adhere to the following obligatory rules:" > > C R said >> Little thing, but "created for use with Inkscape" could cover things > like just regular images... in fact it could cover just about > anything, even things made with Adobe Illustrator. I'd simply cut that > bit out. > > Hhmm.yes, I see what you mean. My interpretation of that, is for > things > like extensions or filters. But maybe there's a better way to say it? > > What about "
Re: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final / teams?
This should do it: https://inkscape.org/en/*moderators/ A user can click "Request to join" and brynn can approve them. Also listed on: https://inkscape.org/en/teams/ Best Regards, Martin Owens On Fri, 2017-05-12 at 12:57 +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote: > Hi Brynn, > > Am 12.05.2017 um 12:27 schrieb brynn: > > > > Hi Friends, > > Since there have been no further comments regarding website > > moderation policy, I've made the changes to the CoC that we > > discussed. > - It's not published yet, was that intentional or were you waiting > for > some confirmation? > > > > > Most of those who commented about being retroactive, thought > > since the policy was not existing at the time, we should not delete > > images uploaded before this date (or the members who uploaded > > them). > > (So we can vote those old ones that I flagged, back in now.) > - Done. There are still a couple of images where Martin voted to > remove, > but we didn't... those are stuck in the queue. > > > > > I started to put out a call for volunteer moderators (on the > > To-Do List page, and also posting in forums and mailing lists) > > except I > > wasn't sure about the wording. I was going to say something like > > "Volunteers are needed to join the Website Team as Moderators." > > > > But then I realized there's no such thing as a Website Team, > > and > > actually it's a Website Editors teamwhich I'm not sure if > > moderators > > would be subset of editors... Hhmm, maybe so? > - I'd say we can make one. Would you like to provide the icon? > > > > > Anyway, I seem to recall there was some mention of possibly > > creating a Moderation Team. But before I post something like > > "Volunteers are needed to form a/join the Website Moderation Team" > > maybe > > we should decide if Moderators need their own team? > > > > This might be another subject, but pursuant to all the > > recent > > discussion and movement towards getting the French manual > > translated, so > > we can find update and expand it, I wonder if we need to think > > about a > > Documentation Team? > - I think it's not urgent, because communication might happen within > the > Booktype website (they have groups and chat). Generally, I believe it > would be a good idea. > > > > > Since Martin is the website guru, he probably has an idea > > what > > would be best here. Personally, I can't think of a reason for a > > formal > > moderation team. But there may be one (or more), that make sense, > > that I > > just never realized. > - Permissions ;-) > > Maren > > > > > Thoughts, comments? > > > > All best, > > brynn > > > > > > -Original Message- From: brynn > > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:04 AM > > To: Inkscape-Devel ; Inkscape-Docs ; C R ; Maren Hachmann ; Martin > > Owens > > ; Sylvain Chiron ; Eduard Braun > > Subject: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final > > > > Hi Friends, > > It seems like this last message about moderation policy got > > buried in > > all the recent important chatter. So I'm re-sending the most vital > > parts of it, > > so we can finish this up. For convenience, > > https://inkscape.org/community/coc/ > > And here's the suggested change: > > > > In the Guidelines for User-Submitted Content section, replace > > > > "Art and other content submitted to the Inkscape website should > > adhere > > to the > > following rules:" > > > > with > > > > "Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape > > (e.g. > > created > > with Inkscape, created for use with Inkscape, showing how to work > > with > > Inkscape, > > etc.). We reserve the right to remove any content that does not > > seem > > appropriate > > or does not adhere to the following obligatory rules:" > > > > C R said > > > > > > Little thing, but "created for use with Inkscape" could cover > > > things > > like just regular images... in fact it could cover just about > > anything, even things made with Adobe Illustrator. I'd simply cut > > that > > bit out. > > > > Hhmm.yes, I see what you mean. My interpretation of that, is > > for > > things > > like extensions or filters. But maybe there's a better way to say > > it? > > > > What about "created to be installed in Inkscape"? Or maybe just > > "to be > > installed in Inkscape"? That would eliminate any kind of > > image. Any other > > suggestions out there? Eduard? > > > > I wonder about adding "Inkscape Project"? Such as: > > "Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape or > > the > > Inkscape > > Project (e.g. created" > > That would cover things like a website graphics or page mockup, > > board > > meeting > > transcript, etc. > > > > C R said > > > > > > If there's a significant amount of undesirable content currently, > > > it's > > probably best to make it retroactive. If it's just a few things, > > then > > we should approach the owners about it. Not to be pushy, but to > >
Re: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final / teams?
Hi Brynn, Am 12.05.2017 um 12:27 schrieb brynn: > Hi Friends, >Since there have been no further comments regarding website > moderation policy, I've made the changes to the CoC that we discussed. - It's not published yet, was that intentional or were you waiting for some confirmation? >Most of those who commented about being retroactive, thought > since the policy was not existing at the time, we should not delete > images uploaded before this date (or the members who uploaded them). > (So we can vote those old ones that I flagged, back in now.) - Done. There are still a couple of images where Martin voted to remove, but we didn't... those are stuck in the queue. >I started to put out a call for volunteer moderators (on the > To-Do List page, and also posting in forums and mailing lists) except I > wasn't sure about the wording. I was going to say something like > "Volunteers are needed to join the Website Team as Moderators." > >But then I realized there's no such thing as a Website Team, and > actually it's a Website Editors teamwhich I'm not sure if moderators > would be subset of editors... Hhmm, maybe so? - I'd say we can make one. Would you like to provide the icon? >Anyway, I seem to recall there was some mention of possibly > creating a Moderation Team. But before I post something like > "Volunteers are needed to form a/join the Website Moderation Team" maybe > we should decide if Moderators need their own team? > >This might be another subject, but pursuant to all the recent > discussion and movement towards getting the French manual translated, so > we can find update and expand it, I wonder if we need to think about a > Documentation Team? - I think it's not urgent, because communication might happen within the Booktype website (they have groups and chat). Generally, I believe it would be a good idea. >Since Martin is the website guru, he probably has an idea what > would be best here. Personally, I can't think of a reason for a formal > moderation team. But there may be one (or more), that make sense, that I > just never realized. - Permissions ;-) Maren >Thoughts, comments? > > All best, > brynn > > > -Original Message- From: brynn > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:04 AM > To: Inkscape-Devel ; Inkscape-Docs ; C R ; Maren Hachmann ; Martin Owens > ; Sylvain Chiron ; Eduard Braun > Subject: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final > > Hi Friends, >It seems like this last message about moderation policy got > buried in > all the recent important chatter. So I'm re-sending the most vital > parts of it, > so we can finish this up. For convenience, > https://inkscape.org/community/coc/ > And here's the suggested change: > > In the Guidelines for User-Submitted Content section, replace > > "Art and other content submitted to the Inkscape website should adhere > to the > following rules:" > > with > > "Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape (e.g. > created > with Inkscape, created for use with Inkscape, showing how to work with > Inkscape, > etc.). We reserve the right to remove any content that does not seem > appropriate > or does not adhere to the following obligatory rules:" > > C R said >> Little thing, but "created for use with Inkscape" could cover things > like just regular images... in fact it could cover just about > anything, even things made with Adobe Illustrator. I'd simply cut that > bit out. > > Hhmm.yes, I see what you mean. My interpretation of that, is for > things > like extensions or filters. But maybe there's a better way to say it? > > What about "created to be installed in Inkscape"? Or maybe just "to be > installed in Inkscape"? That would eliminate any kind of image. Any other > suggestions out there? Eduard? > > I wonder about adding "Inkscape Project"? Such as: > "Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape or the > Inkscape > Project (e.g. created" > That would cover things like a website graphics or page mockup, board > meeting > transcript, etc. > > C R said >> If there's a significant amount of undesirable content currently, it's > probably best to make it retroactive. If it's just a few things, then > we should approach the owners about it. Not to be pushy, but to inform > them of the new policy. > > To me, it's a significant amount. By my estimate, probably 1 or 2 > thumbnails > per page of the gallery are random photos! So that's way too many to > consider > trying to contact them. > > Personally, I would love to delete them without notice. But since the > policy > was not available at the time they uploaded, technically I think it's > not fair > to delete them. But they'll soon be shuffled further and further back, > as the > gallery grows. I'm happy just to get the policy settled and put it into > effect. > > Thanks everyone for taking the time, and helping to finalize this >
Re: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final / teams?
Hi Friends, Since there have been no further comments regarding website moderation policy, I've made the changes to the CoC that we discussed. Most of those who commented about being retroactive, thought since the policy was not existing at the time, we should not delete images uploaded before this date (or the members who uploaded them). (So we can vote those old ones that I flagged, back in now.) I started to put out a call for volunteer moderators (on the To-Do List page, and also posting in forums and mailing lists) except I wasn't sure about the wording. I was going to say something like "Volunteers are needed to join the Website Team as Moderators." But then I realized there's no such thing as a Website Team, and actually it's a Website Editors teamwhich I'm not sure if moderators would be subset of editors... Hhmm, maybe so? Anyway, I seem to recall there was some mention of possibly creating a Moderation Team. But before I post something like "Volunteers are needed to form a/join the Website Moderation Team" maybe we should decide if Moderators need their own team? This might be another subject, but pursuant to all the recent discussion and movement towards getting the French manual translated, so we can find update and expand it, I wonder if we need to think about a Documentation Team? Since Martin is the website guru, he probably has an idea what would be best here. Personally, I can't think of a reason for a formal moderation team. But there may be one (or more), that make sense, that I just never realized. Thoughts, comments? All best, brynn -Original Message- From: brynn Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:04 AM To: Inkscape-Devel ; Inkscape-Docs ; C R ; Maren Hachmann ; Martin Owens ; Sylvain Chiron ; Eduard Braun Subject: [Inkscape-docs] website moderation policy final Hi Friends, It seems like this last message about moderation policy got buried in all the recent important chatter. So I'm re-sending the most vital parts of it, so we can finish this up. For convenience, https://inkscape.org/community/coc/ And here's the suggested change: In the Guidelines for User-Submitted Content section, replace "Art and other content submitted to the Inkscape website should adhere to the following rules:" with "Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape (e.g. created with Inkscape, created for use with Inkscape, showing how to work with Inkscape, etc.). We reserve the right to remove any content that does not seem appropriate or does not adhere to the following obligatory rules:" C R said > Little thing, but "created for use with Inkscape" could cover things like just regular images... in fact it could cover just about anything, even things made with Adobe Illustrator. I'd simply cut that bit out. Hhmm.yes, I see what you mean. My interpretation of that, is for things like extensions or filters. But maybe there's a better way to say it? What about "created to be installed in Inkscape"? Or maybe just "to be installed in Inkscape"? That would eliminate any kind of image. Any other suggestions out there? Eduard? I wonder about adding "Inkscape Project"? Such as: "Content uploaded to the gallery should be related to Inkscape or the Inkscape Project (e.g. created" That would cover things like a website graphics or page mockup, board meeting transcript, etc. C R said > If there's a significant amount of undesirable content currently, it's probably best to make it retroactive. If it's just a few things, then we should approach the owners about it. Not to be pushy, but to inform them of the new policy. To me, it's a significant amount. By my estimate, probably 1 or 2 thumbnails per page of the gallery are random photos! So that's way too many to consider trying to contact them. Personally, I would love to delete them without notice. But since the policy was not available at the time they uploaded, technically I think it's not fair to delete them. But they'll soon be shuffled further and further back, as the gallery grows. I'm happy just to get the policy settled and put it into effect. Thanks everyone for taking the time, and helping to finalize this issue. As far as I know, this will be the last step before we can start recruiting moderators, and using the system officially. All best, brynn -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org!
