[PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON

2010-10-29 Thread admin

WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?

This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they 
come across it.  Can we please change the token name to T_DOUBLE_COLON 
so I don't have to hear about it constantly?


Those that disagree don't do enough PHP support to know how often it is 
asked. it's worth it.


Chad

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Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON

2010-10-29 Thread Daniel P. Brown
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 20:47, admin ad...@codeangel.org wrote:

 Those that disagree don't do enough PHP support to know how often it is
 asked. it's worth it.

Someone disagreeing with your request to change something does not
correlate to their doing enough PHP support.  There are many reasons
to disagree with a change request, no matter how much any one person
thinks of it as a necessity or an improvement.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON

2010-10-29 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 10/29/2010 7:47 PM, admin wrote:
 WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
 
 This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they come 
 across it. 
 Can we please change the token name to T_DOUBLE_COLON so I don't have to hear 
 about it
 constantly?
 
 Those that disagree don't do enough PHP support to know how often it is 
 asked. it's worth it.

Is it that hard to at least review the mailing list archives before ranting?

At least posters would sound like they have educated themselves on why what
came to be, and argue sensibly for changes.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON

2010-10-29 Thread admin

On 10/29/2010 08:11 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:

On 10/29/2010 7:47 PM, admin wrote:
   

WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?

This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they come 
across it.
Can we please change the token name to T_DOUBLE_COLON so I don't have to hear 
about it
constantly?

Those that disagree don't do enough PHP support to know how often it is asked. 
it's worth it.
 

Is it that hard to at least review the mailing list archives before ranting?

At least posters would sound like they have educated themselves on why what
came to be, and argue sensibly for changes.

   

obviously the old arguments didn't work, time to start anew.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON

2010-10-29 Thread Scott MacVicar

On Oct 29, 2010, at 6:17 PM, admin wrote:

 On 10/29/2010 08:11 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
 On 10/29/2010 7:47 PM, admin wrote:
   
 WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
 
 This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they come 
 across it.
 Can we please change the token name to T_DOUBLE_COLON so I don't have to 
 hear about it
 constantly?
 
 Those that disagree don't do enough PHP support to know how often it is 
 asked. it's worth it.
 
 Is it that hard to at least review the mailing list archives before ranting?
 
 At least posters would sound like they have educated themselves on why what
 came to be, and argue sensibly for changes.
 
   
 obviously the old arguments didn't work, time to start anew.
 

using a name like admin in your email headers isn't going to be very 
receptive.

For what its worth its Hebrew for double colon. I'm all for the change, will 
see what I can do next week.

- S


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Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON

2010-10-29 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 10/29/2010 8:17 PM, admin wrote:

 obviously the old arguments didn't work, time to start anew.

obviously you didn't stop to learn the art of persuasion.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON

2010-10-29 Thread Chad Emrys

On 10/29/2010 08:31 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:

On 10/29/2010 8:17 PM, admin wrote:
   


   

obviously the old arguments didn't work, time to start anew.
 

obviously you didn't stop to learn the art of persuasion.

   

That's just rude, dude.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON

2010-10-29 Thread Chad Emrys

On 10/29/2010 08:24 PM, Scott MacVicar wrote:

On Oct 29, 2010, at 6:17 PM, admin wrote:

   

On 10/29/2010 08:11 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
 

On 10/29/2010 7:47 PM, admin wrote:

   

WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?

This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they come 
across it.
Can we please change the token name to T_DOUBLE_COLON so I don't have to hear 
about it
constantly?

Those that disagree don't do enough PHP support to know how often it is asked. 
it's worth it.

 

Is it that hard to at least review the mailing list archives before ranting?

At least posters would sound like they have educated themselves on why what
came to be, and argue sensibly for changes.


   

obviously the old arguments didn't work, time to start anew.

 

using a name like admin in your email headers isn't going to be very 
receptive.

For what its worth its Hebrew for double colon. I'm all for the change, will 
see what I can do next week.

- S

   
Oops, sorry didn't even notice it was there, I don't send mail from this 
account much.


Should be fixed.  Though I don't care what my name has to do with reception.

What is in a name anyway?

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Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON

2010-10-29 Thread James Butler
I'll bite.

Why should this be changed? Is it broken? Is it something that 1 second on 
google can't answer? 
If somebody is advanced enough to be using classes (I think about the only time 
you would use a double colon) then they should know what it means.

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On 30 Oct 2010, at 02:51, Chad Emrys ad...@codeangel.org wrote:

 On 10/29/2010 08:24 PM, Scott MacVicar wrote:
 On Oct 29, 2010, at 6:17 PM, admin wrote:
 
 
 On 10/29/2010 08:11 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
 
 On 10/29/2010 7:47 PM, admin wrote:
 
 
 WTF is T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM?
 
 This has to be THE most asked question by new php developers when they 
 come across it.
 Can we please change the token name to T_DOUBLE_COLON so I don't have to 
 hear about it
 constantly?
 
 Those that disagree don't do enough PHP support to know how often it is 
 asked. it's worth it.
 
 
 Is it that hard to at least review the mailing list archives before 
 ranting?
 
 At least posters would sound like they have educated themselves on why what
 came to be, and argue sensibly for changes.
 
 
 
 obviously the old arguments didn't work, time to start anew.
 
 
 using a name like admin in your email headers isn't going to be very 
 receptive.
 
 For what its worth its Hebrew for double colon. I'm all for the change, will 
 see what I can do next week.
 
 - S
 
 
 Oops, sorry didn't even notice it was there, I don't send mail from this 
 account much.
 
 Should be fixed.  Though I don't care what my name has to do with reception.
 
 What is in a name anyway?
 
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Re: [PHP-DEV] rename T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM to T_DOUBLE_COLON

2010-10-29 Thread Daniel Brown
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 21:24, Scott MacVicar sc...@macvicar.net wrote:

 using a name like admin in your email headers isn't going to be very 
 receptive.

I was thinking the exact same thing.  Glad not to be the only one.  ;-P

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