Re: [PHP-DEV] Releases, trunk, policy and the wardrobe (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: built-in web server in CLI.)

2011-04-19 Thread Stas Malyshev

Hi!


Is there any thought that we might stop throwing things into trunk
soon and start thinking about some sort of release?


Definitely yes. We have some TODO list for that but I think time has 
arrived to get it going. The most major things:


1. Scalar typing. I think we need to do a feature branch from it and 
remove it from trunk. If nobody would take it I can do it though it 
probably will take me a couple of week(end)s at least looking at my 
schedule.


2. Traits - I remember there was some unfinished business there?

There's also a number of smaller improvements that we may want in/out 
decisions on, and I'm sure people have some TODO items for it, so let's 
put them here: https://wiki.php.net/todo/php54

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Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: built-in web server in CLI.

2011-04-19 Thread Michael Wallner

On 04/17/2011 01:17 AM, Philip Olson wrote:

Greetings Moriyoshi and all,

Are people still thinking about this? And how about applying the
current/revised patch to trunk thus making it easier to play with and
break, but not freeze its features/API yet.

Also the wiki is up again so:

   - RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/builtinwebserver
   - Patch is here: http://gist.github.com/835698


The php_http_* namespace is actually already used by pecl_http?

Regards,
Mike

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Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: built-in web server in CLI.

2011-04-19 Thread Michael Morris
Since the goal of this is debugging might I suggest borrowing a statement
from the Adobe Flash environment:  trace.

Trace sends output to the debug console.  If given a variable it would
format it as print_r currently does.  When encountered by PHP in other modes
it would be silently ignored.

Thoughts?

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:

 On 04/17/2011 01:17 AM, Philip Olson wrote:

 Greetings Moriyoshi and all,

 Are people still thinking about this? And how about applying the
 current/revised patch to trunk thus making it easier to play with and
 break, but not freeze its features/API yet.

 Also the wiki is up again so:

   - RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/builtinwebserver
   - Patch is here: http://gist.github.com/835698


 The php_http_* namespace is actually already used by pecl_http?

 Regards,
 Mike


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Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: built-in web server in CLI.

2011-04-19 Thread Michael Morris
Pardon me for following up my own post, but there is room for a range of
functions here other than trace that could send their output to the command
line where the server was started.

watch ($var) - $var is sent to the console on the line this statement is
made with the statment now watching 'var'.. init value x, and then each
time it changes it is updated in the console.

traceStack() - as trace, but the current stack is reported.
traceAll() Return all variables in local scope and the current stack.
stop() Halt execution as die or exit, unlike them it's arguments are sent to
console instead of browser.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Michael Morris dmgx.mich...@gmail.comwrote:

 Since the goal of this is debugging might I suggest borrowing a statement
 from the Adobe Flash environment:  trace.

 Trace sends output to the debug console.  If given a variable it would
 format it as print_r currently does.  When encountered by PHP in other modes
 it would be silently ignored.

 Thoughts?

 On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:

 On 04/17/2011 01:17 AM, Philip Olson wrote:

 Greetings Moriyoshi and all,

 Are people still thinking about this? And how about applying the
 current/revised patch to trunk thus making it easier to play with and
 break, but not freeze its features/API yet.

 Also the wiki is up again so:

   - RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/builtinwebserver
   - Patch is here: http://gist.github.com/835698


 The php_http_* namespace is actually already used by pecl_http?

 Regards,
 Mike


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Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: built-in web server in CLI.

2011-04-19 Thread David Muir
I'm not sure if this is needed when there are already solutions for this.
eg, syslog, error_log, or other userland solutions like Zend_Log,
sfLogger, etc.

Cheers,
David

On 19/04/11 23:44, Michael Morris wrote:
 Pardon me for following up my own post, but there is room for a range of
 functions here other than trace that could send their output to the command
 line where the server was started.

 watch ($var) - $var is sent to the console on the line this statement is
 made with the statment now watching 'var'.. init value x, and then each
 time it changes it is updated in the console.

 traceStack() - as trace, but the current stack is reported.
 traceAll() Return all variables in local scope and the current stack.
 stop() Halt execution as die or exit, unlike them it's arguments are sent to
 console instead of browser.

 On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Michael Morris 
 dmgx.mich...@gmail.comwrote:

 Since the goal of this is debugging might I suggest borrowing a statement
 from the Adobe Flash environment:  trace.

 Trace sends output to the debug console.  If given a variable it would
 format it as print_r currently does.  When encountered by PHP in other modes
 it would be silently ignored.

 Thoughts?

 On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:

 On 04/17/2011 01:17 AM, Philip Olson wrote:

 Greetings Moriyoshi and all,

 Are people still thinking about this? And how about applying the
 current/revised patch to trunk thus making it easier to play with and
 break, but not freeze its features/API yet.

 Also the wiki is up again so:

   - RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/builtinwebserver
   - Patch is here: http://gist.github.com/835698

 The php_http_* namespace is actually already used by pecl_http?

 Regards,
 Mike


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