AW: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP (ext/interbase) driver maintenance

2019-04-17 Thread Köditz , Martin
Hi Kalle,

> With all this being said; there is however one option in case the vote passes 
> when it ends in about a weeks time. 
> That is for the Firebird Foundation to take over control of the extension on 
> PECL and work out its problems and 
> re-propose it to be included back into php-src once it is in a mature state 
> with the PHP RFC process. This means that it 
> still has the possibility of being included in PHP8 which currently is 
> looking to be released at the end of 2020. That 
> leaves over a year to get familiar with how the PHP project works, our 
> policies, community and guidelines.

I think that's how we should do it. So I will have (hopefully) enough time to 
understand the extension development and get into the process of the PHP 
community. 

By the way:
Pierre Joye mentioned to request access via a github account at 
https://www.php.net/git-php.php. I read the complete instruction. But I'm still 
unable to process successfully. I always get an error saying the answer is not 
correct. Surely I'm doing something wrong, but I don't know what. That's a 
similar problem as with the subscription form. Please consider to make it more 
user friendly. I am sure other people will fail as well.

What are the next steps? In which area should I register as a maintainer? In 
the ext or PECL area? How do I do that and who is my contact person?

Regards,
Martin


AW: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC VOTE] Unbundle ext/interbase

2019-04-15 Thread Köditz , Martin
I cannot find my translations too. I've create German translations for these 
files:
- ibase-add-user.xml
- ibase-delete-user.xml
- ibase-modify-user.xml

Last time I was logged in I saw it still in pending state. I thought nobody was 
able to verify in German. But now the translations are gone completely. Maybe 
someone did a garbage collection ...

Well, it wouldn't be a problem to translate again. But then the changes should 
also be incorporated.

Regards,
Martin

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Nikita Popov [mailto:nikita@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Montag, 15. April 2019 12:28
An: Köditz, Martin 
Cc: internals@lists.php.net
Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC VOTE] Unbundle ext/interbase

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 12:17 PM Köditz, Martin 
wrote:

> Hi Nikita,
>
> > To update the documentation you can either use the editor at
> edit.php.net (useful for smaller changes and does not require 
> permissions),
> > or also request direct commit access to the documentation.
> I've added the changes via edit.php.net. But nothing happened since then.
> I think it will be a good practice to request direct access.
>
> Thank you
> Martin
>

I just tried to find your changes on edit.php.net, but didn't see anything 
related to interbase. Could you maybe provide a link to one of your patches? 
(Right click on the patch, then "View unified diff" and then click on "Direct 
link to this patch" at the top.)

Regards,
Nikita

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[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC VOTE] Unbundle ext/interbase

2019-04-15 Thread Köditz , Martin
Hi Nikita,

> To update the documentation you can either use the editor at edit.php.net 
> (useful for smaller changes and does not require permissions), 
> or also request direct commit access to the documentation.
I've added the changes via edit.php.net. But nothing happened since then. I 
think it will be a good practice to request direct access.

Thank you
Martin


-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Nikita Popov [mailto:nikita@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Montag, 15. April 2019 12:08
An: Köditz, Martin 
Cc: internals@lists.php.net
Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC VOTE] Unbundle ext/interbase

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:51 AM Köditz, Martin 
wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> I want to give you the general state of the Firebird driver. At the 
> end of January, I agreed to continue developing the Firebird driver as 
> a maintainer. In this regard, I first took care of getting familiar 
> with the code and an important bug (# 72175).
>
> Obviously, this information has not got through to the PHP community 
> for a variety of reasons. Unfortunately, the project seems to be 
> pulled away by the vote to remove the driver underfoot.
>
> It would be nice if someone could agree with me on the further steps 
> regarding further development. I particularly need help with the 
> following
> points:
> 1. How will I be deposited as a maintainer?
>
2. Who has commit rights for changes?
> 3. How are changes in the documentation checked in? Here are my 
> changes have not been committed for years.
> 4. Where are the current development guidelines? I have an old book, 
> but it does not seem to reflect the current quality standards.
>
> Maybe it's to late. But maybe we (the Firebird and the PHP community) 
> can continue on a common path.
>

Hello Martin,

The vote currently under way shouldn't change much for you: It mainly means 
that the code of the extension will be moved into a new repository and that the 
extension has to be installed using "pecl install interbase" instead of 
"./configure --with-interbase".

Unless you already have one, please request a PHP git account at 
https://www.php.net/git-php.php. Once it is approved you will be granted access 
to the ext/interbase extension in php-src, as well as the new PECL repository 
for the extension once the move is completed. You can then commit changes using 
git via git.php.net.

To update the documentation you can either use the editor at edit.php.net 
(useful for smaller changes and does not require permissions), or also request 
direct commit access to the documentation.

Regards,
Nikita


[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC VOTE] Unbundle ext/interbase

2019-04-15 Thread Köditz , Martin
Hello everybody,

I want to give you the general state of the Firebird driver. At the end of 
January, I agreed to continue developing the Firebird driver as a maintainer. 
In this regard, I first took care of getting familiar with the code and an 
important bug (# 72175).

Obviously, this information has not got through to the PHP community for a 
variety of reasons. Unfortunately, the project seems to be pulled away by the 
vote to remove the driver underfoot.

It would be nice if someone could agree with me on the further steps regarding 
further development. I particularly need help with the following points:
1. How will I be deposited as a maintainer?
2. Who has commit rights for changes?
3. How are changes in the documentation checked in? Here are my changes have 
not been committed for years.
4. Where are the current development guidelines? I have an old book, but it 
does not seem to reflect the current quality standards.

Maybe it's to late. But maybe we (the Firebird and the PHP community) can 
continue on a common path.

Regards,
Martin

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