Re: [Internetradio] College Freshmen and Radio

2012-08-22 Thread Rob de Santos
I think it's clear that radio (at least in the US) has not done a good job of
marketing itself to younger listeners or given them reasons to listen.  I also
think that the ability to participate and be part of the dialog is important as
David's experience suggests.  

With the rapid movement of talk and sport formats from AM to FM in the US, it
does make you wonder if AM will be viable at all in the major markets a decade
from now.  Clearly, young people still want to be heard but have had little
reason to see radio as a way to do that.  That's very unlike the generation to
which most of us in this discussion belong.  
--
-Rob de Santos

-Original Message-
From: David Goren [mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:37 AM
To: Internet radio discussion
Cc: rdesan...@afana.com
Subject: Re: [Internetradio] College Freshmen and Radio

I certainly have come across my share of young people who not only don't listen
to radio, but they don't even understand what it is. When I mention I'm a radio
producer and make a weekly program I only see a glimmer of understanding in
their eyes when I say: It's sort of like a podcast.

That said there's a burgeoning corps of young people interested in storming the
gates of public radio...or public media as they call it. I've recently been
holding some intro to recording and production workshops. They've sold out right
away my students are almost all under 30...and almost all lovely young women!
Where were they in my radio youth? They're all in love with Ira Glass.







On Aug 22, 2012, at 7:40 AM, John Figliozzi wrote:

 It's the same old story... Chasing the girl you want but can't impress while
eschewing the one you have or could have...
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:45 PM, Rob de Santos rdesan...@afana.com wrote:
 
 I saw this, too.  While I am wary of ever taking these sorts of 
 over-generalized pieces seriously, there is a kernel of truth here.  
 AM radio listening among those under 19 is in the low single digits 
 and FM is only a few multiples better.  I just wrote a column for the 
 November PopComm discussing the future of AM radio in the US for just this
reason.
 
 --
 -Rob de Santos
 
 -Original Message-
 From: internetradio-boun...@hard-core-dx.com
 [mailto:internetradio-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Richard 
 Cuff
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:37 PM
 To: Internet radio discussion; Shortwave programming discussion
 Subject: [Internetradio] College Freshmen and Radio
 
 So I come across this fluff news piece regarding the collegiate Class 
 of 2016 as they begin their freshman year, and I found this one statement
somewhat telling:
 
 Digital everything has always been a part of their lives -- be it 
 music, movies or e-books.  Having grown up with MP3s and iPods, they 
 seldom listen to music on the car radio and pretty much have no use for radio
at all.
 
 So is it any wonder why broadcasters seeking younger audiences are 
 eschewing good ol' radio, let alone shortwave??
 
 http://www.wfmz.com/lifestyle/List-charts-today-s-college-freshman-cu
 lture/-/121 514/16206996/-/jbak4yz/-/index.html
 
 Richard Cuff / Allentown, PA  USA
 
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Re: [Internetradio] College Freshmen and Radio

2012-08-22 Thread Richard Cuff
I wonder if Canada's experience will be relevant here -- with AM
viable only in major cities as there's enough audience diversity and
critical mass to require use of both AM and FM to reach audiences.

AM will be relegated primarily to religious and minority ethnic
interests...just like shortwave in the US...

John's point - you want the girl you can't have vs. the girl you got -
is an interesting simile to all this.  Where I fear the simile loses
out is that, in 10 years, the girl you got is dead (figuratively),
versus the girl you can't have, who is now someone you desperately
need to reach before you lose all chance of influencing her.  And
anyway, that girl you can't have won't be showing up at a class
reunion for radio...

RC


On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Rob de Santos rdesan...@afana.com wrote:
 I think it's clear that radio (at least in the US) has not done a good job of
 marketing itself to younger listeners or given them reasons to listen.  I also
 think that the ability to participate and be part of the dialog is important 
 as
 David's experience suggests.

 With the rapid movement of talk and sport formats from AM to FM in the US, it
 does make you wonder if AM will be viable at all in the major markets a decade
 from now.  Clearly, young people still want to be heard but have had little
 reason to see radio as a way to do that.  That's very unlike the generation to
 which most of us in this discussion belong.
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