Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
Hi Patrick: I still have not had any luck finding an analog atomic clock (with hands) that can be set to UTC, Sorry I didn't get a chance to reply earlier but depending on your requirements you might solve the problem the way I did. I too spent a lot of time looking for one and didn't find one, which I still think is odd. The closest I came was from one of the industrial clock makers which had an analog 24 hour clock, a separate master unit, and a way to attach a receiver for either WWVB or GPS time. Obviously this is way out of the price range. My compromise was when I found a couple of Seth Thomas analog WWVB wall clocks on clearance at Staples 3-4 years ago for $8 each. One was installed normally, the other I pushed the button that disables daylight time. Then I let it sync to WWVB which I can do at any time of the day, btw. Next step was to simply pull the hour hand off and plop it down with the correct offset for UTC. I didn't set any time zone for the clock, so the clock thinks it's in its default time zone, which I think is Pacific, but is actually displaying UTC. Since it doesn't adjust for DST it requires no further fooling with other than the annual battery change. Now the disadvantage is of course it's a 12 hour dial, but since I know that and it's next to a local time clock the conversion I can make easily. They also look great with the minute hands in perfect sync :) I'm sure this technique will work with any of the clocks out there, or you can on the web buy a WWVB clock mechanism with hands of your choice. If you want you can make a new dial with the 24 hour time markings adjacent to the 12 hour ones - there are clock face template web pages to use if you want. For the price and effort it's an acceptable compromise for me. -Pete WB2QLL Somers, WI ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
I still have not had any luck finding an analog atomic clock (with hands) that can be set to UTC, but I did find a rather spendy one that MFJ makes 123, that is solar operated 12/24 digital than can be set to UTC, even though the directions do not explain it. A couple reviews covered this. At $79.95 is spendy, with 2-3 inch numbers you can hang on the wall. But it is an option.According to the reviews, it is the best clock that MFJ makes and runs trouble free by several posters for years. But I am still looking. Setting the 24 hour clock to UTC is a must for me. the only other Atomic clock I do have is a Specific Oregon and it has worked well since I bought it a Fred Meyer in 1997. It can be set to P/M/C/E times only though. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
At 02:25 PM 10/14/2009, you wrote: I still have not had any luck finding an analog atomic clock (with hands) that can be set to UTC, but I did find a rather spendy one that MFJ makes 123, that is solar operated 12/24 digital than can be set to UTC, even though the directions do not explain it. A couple reviews covered this. At $79.95 is spendy, with 2-3 inch numbers you can hang on the wall. But it is an option.According to the reviews, it is the best clock that MFJ makes and runs trouble free by several posters for years. But I am still looking. Setting the 24 hour clock to UTC is a must for me. the only other Atomic clock I do have is a Specific Oregon and it has worked well since I bought it a Fred Meyer in 1997. It can be set to P/M/C/E times only though. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager Patrick, my solution was to be a $5.00 old fashioned round clock from Ikea, with a second hand and add a ring of inner numbers from 13 to 24. Runs on a single AA battery for about 6 months and is accurate within a few seconds every few months. I also have one of the old Radio Shack atomic clocks (of course they won't do GMT, just the local time) digital clocks which is how I ensure the wall clock is bang on. Much cheaper than your options. I'm going to do the same thing at the cottage tooWalt ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
Walt, I have thought about getting an old 12 hr electric clock from a garage sale and doing the 13-24 hour inner ring. I still like the electric clock 50/60 cycles as they keep nearly perfect time and are trouble free for many years. Also inexpensive. That may be my best option. Close to what you suggest too. but finding an atomic 24 hour clock set to UTC is not an easy task. I called the local Radio Shack and yes they have Atomic clocks, but only P/M/C/E time. One other option would be to buy an atomic clock from the UK, but it would probably not work on WWV. I wonder what the Hams are doing these days? Ham Radio Outlet in Portland has nothing either. Thanks. 73, Patrick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
At 03:44 PM 10/14/2009, you wrote: Walt, I have thought about getting an old 12 hr electric clock from a garage sale and doing the 13-24 hour inner ring. I still like the electric clock 50/60 cycles as they keep nearly perfect time and are trouble free for many years. Also inexpensive. That may be my best option. Close to what you suggest too. but finding an atomic 24 hour clock set to UTC is not an easy task. I called the local Radio Shack and yes they have Atomic clocks, but only P/M/C/E time. One other option would be to buy an atomic clock from the UK, but it would probably not work on WWV. I wonder what the Hams are doing these days? Ham Radio Outlet in Portland has nothing either. Thanks. 73, Patrick ___ Seems crazy that they don't offer an option to offset the time. Short sighted, I'd say! Walt. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
Seems crazy that they don't offer an option to offset the time. Short sighted, I'd say! Walt. It is funny, but I ran into an Ham that has been active for 60-70 years. He doesn't have an Atomic clock that will work on UTC either. The old wall clock is probably my best option. I wish I could replace the old motor in my Franklin clock, but it is a real 24 hour clock and a regular clock motor would not work. The hands would not line up right. 73, Patrick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
Pat: Have you checked for atomic clocks out of the UK? If they're available they would work because UTC is the same as the UK's winter time. A friend of mine over there has an atomic watch that works on both the Rugby and Colorado signals, so maybe clocks are available too. Mike in St Isidore, AB ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-130RC On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Mike Stonebridge stonb...@abnorth.comwrote: Pat: Have you checked for atomic clocks out of the UK? If they're available they would work because UTC is the same as the UK's winter time. A friend of mine over there has an atomic watch that works on both the Rugby and Colorado signals, so maybe clocks are available too. Mike in St Isidore, AB ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
Mike, Thanks! I was wondering if a UK made clock would work on WWVB. That is a thought. I also found Franklin Clock Co to still be in business, so I e mailled them about either a new clock or a new motor for my old one, if available. So I have several options. Besides that, I found another company online Time and Signal Co that still makes electric clocks (110v). I did not see any 24 hour ones, but I can call them too. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-130R Thanks Mike I see it can be set for UTC!! And Atomic! I will call MFJ tomorrow. $30 is better than $80. 73, Patrick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
Popping up Google and saying what time is it in London is a lot cheaper, faster, and your computer can be your best friend when DXing. At least someone stills make a hardware version. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net wrote: http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-130R Thanks Mike I see it can be set for UTC!! And Atomic! I will call MFJ tomorrow. $30 is better than $80. 73, Patrick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
A bit of a problem when the computer is in another room...:-) Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
Point taken! On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net wrote: A bit of a problem when the computer is in another room...:-) Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
can you just paste new numbers on the face of another clock, with (SAY) 12 woudl be replaced with 7, 1 with 8, etc. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
can you just paste new numbers on the face of another clock, with (SAY) 12 woudl be replaced with 7, 1 with 8, etc. Now THAT is funny. I needed a laugh today. Honest. If you had any idea! Going to the radio now... honest. -- .. Colin Newell - Editor - CoffeeCrew DOT Com --- Victoria, British Columbia - Blog - Coffee DOT BC DOT CA DXer DOT CA and Bob Harris DOT Com -- ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
I am trying to find a 24 hour atonic analog wall clock to replace my old 120v 24 wall clock. It is 30 years old and the motor has died. I can find digital 24 hour clocks that can be set on UTC, but no Atomic wall clocks. MFJ makes several wall clocks, Atomic, but cannot be set on UTC. I don't want a regular battery (non atomic) wall clock, as I doubt any keep perfect time. My old 120V one kept perfect time, except when the power was off. Any suggestions? My only other idea is to swich to a digital UTC one. Thanks. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
I am trying to find a 24 hour atomic analog wall clock to replace my old 120v 24 wall clock. Lemme work on that. At UVic we have atomic clocks in all the new classrooms that are tuned to WWVB -- and they are beautiful BIG Analogs that are visible from about 200+ feet away. Nothing like a good Analog clock. -- .. Colin Newell - Editor - CoffeeCrew DOT Com --- Victoria, British Columbia - Blog - Coffee DOT BC DOT CA DXer DOT CA and Bob Harris DOT Com -- ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
http://scientificsonline.com/product.asp?pn=3085026cmss=atomic+clock 4 time zones - Your UTC conversion is done in your head... like I have done since 1971. Reminds me when I would head out to explore after school when I was 12 (I grew up in the country on a small farm...) Mother would ask, When are you coming back Colin? Not a minute after 23:30 Mom! Within a couple of years she figured it out... -- .. Colin Newell - Editor - CoffeeCrew DOT Com --- Victoria, British Columbia - Blog - Coffee DOT BC DOT CA DXer DOT CA and Bob Harris DOT Com -- ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
You asked! http://www.atomic-clocks.com/atwalcloc1.html Happy Canadian Thanksgiving Folks! Yup. In Canuskistan, it is today... Why? Because we are more northerly... and harvest is a month earlier. -- .. Colin Newell - Editor - CoffeeCrew DOT Com --- Victoria, British Columbia - Blog - Coffee DOT BC DOT CA DXer DOT CA and Bob Harris DOT Com -- ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
What brand is the clock that died? Powell POP email is powell at backroads DOT net --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net wrote: From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net Subject: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC To: irca@hard-core-dx.com, a...@nrcdxas.org Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 2:24 PM I am trying to find a 24 hour atonic analog wall clock to replace my old 120v 24 wall clock. It is 30 years old and the motor has died. I can find digital 24 hour clocks that can be set on UTC, but no Atomic wall clocks. MFJ makes several wall clocks, Atomic, but cannot be set on UTC. I don't want a regular battery (non atomic) wall clock, as I doubt any keep perfect time. My old 120V one kept perfect time, except when the power was off. Any suggestions? My only other idea is to swich to a digital UTC one. Thanks. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
The brand is Franklin. It has been a good clock, but it has been getting noisy the last year or so and it stopped last week. I tried to oil it, and it ran for maybe 20 minutes and stopped again. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
Thanks Colin. Another option would be to buy a 24 hour atomic clock and reset the hands to UTC. I would probably void the warranty, but that would also work, or find an old 12 hour electric clock and set the time for UTC. It seems the battery clocks that are not atomic do not seem to keep good time. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Analog 24 Atomic clock set on UTC
Colin, I have a atomic digital clock sitting on the R8, but I want one that will work for UTC that is analog, if I can find one. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
