Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC
Hi Patrick, I'll check later today. But definitely IBOC on Monday morning and at around 9 PM yesterday as well. -- Rick - Original Message - From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net To: IRCA irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:25 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC Were they testing, or is it a Daytime thing? I just tried here on the Northern OR coast, 110 miles from KFNQ, and I get no IBOC hash. I get a bit on 1080, off the SW EWE, but I presume that from KNX, but nothing noted otherwise. KFNQ in quite strong here off the NE EWE too. No hash on 1100 either. But at least no sign of any hash now. I will try tomorrow during the day. Strange that any new IBOCers on AM. Who is listening to IBOC on AM? 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager From: rick...@shellworld.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 22:33:29 -0700 Subject: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC I may be late to this party, but noticed yesterday that KFNQ-1090 in Seattle is now running IBOC. Not too surprising, since it's owned by CBS. Years ago I used to see them on IBOC lists but never heard the slightest hint of hash. Now 1080 and 1100 may be history here. Noted them with IBOC yesterday. I don't often visit that part of the dial, so don't know when they began using it, but it should easily decode on an HD radio here. -- Rick Lewis ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC
As Gomer Pyle would say Surprise..surprise..surprise. KFNQ is indeed IBOC. I can hear the sidebands as of this morning. No doubts about it! Not a big problem here, but it is there. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager From: mwd...@webtv.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 01:25:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC Were they testing, or is it a Daytime thing? I just tried here on the Northern OR coast, 110 miles from KFNQ, and I get no IBOC hash. I get a bit on 1080, off the SW EWE, but I presume that from KNX, but nothing noted otherwise. KFNQ in quite strong here off the NE EWE too. No hash on 1100 either. But at least no sign of any hash now. I will try tomorrow during the day. Strange that any new IBOCers on AM. Who is listening to IBOC on AM? 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager From: rick...@shellworld.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 22:33:29 -0700 Subject: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC I may be late to this party, but noticed yesterday that KFNQ-1090 in Seattle is now running IBOC. Not too surprising, since it's owned by CBS. Years ago I used to see them on IBOC lists but never heard the slightest hint of hash. Now 1080 and 1100 may be history here. Noted them with IBOC yesterday. I don't often visit that part of the dial, so don't know when they began using it, but it should easily decode on an HD radio here. -- Rick Lewis ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC
Ric k, When I first tried Tuesday morning, it may have been off as there was no sideband noise, but this morning it is there. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager From: rick...@shellworld.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:58:56 -0700 Subject: Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC An observer on the RadioDiscussions Seattle board noted IBOC on KFNQ on Feb. 24. Wow, am I late on this one! Generally, I get so much interference from devices that I seldom monitor AM these days. But Patrick's post makes me wonder if it's been intermittent. I'm sure I've checked it within the past two weeks! In fact, I scanned the dial pretty thoroughly on March 3 after our 1460 went silent. At that time, (6 A.M. hour), I noticed both of KKDZ-1250's transmitters running simultaneously and beating against each other every few seconds. And I didn't notice KFNQ running IBOC at that time. I think I would have. That intensely loud splatter would be hard to miss. -- Rick ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC
Finally checked KFNQ out on the upstairs HD radio. The HD decodes, but really, it sounds no better than their AM did before they introduced IBOC noise to it. Granted, it sounds much quieter than it does on analog, but only because of the contrast from the hash now mixed with the analog signal. How absurd! -- Rick - Original Message - From: Patrick Martin mwd...@webtv.net To: IRCA irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC As Gomer Pyle would say Surprise..surprise..surprise. KFNQ is indeed IBOC. I can hear the sidebands as of this morning. No doubts about it! Not a big problem here, but it is there. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager From: mwd...@webtv.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 01:25:42 -0700 Subject: Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC Were they testing, or is it a Daytime thing? I just tried here on the Northern OR coast, 110 miles from KFNQ, and I get no IBOC hash. I get a bit on 1080, off the SW EWE, but I presume that from KNX, but nothing noted otherwise. KFNQ in quite strong here off the NE EWE too. No hash on 1100 either. But at least no sign of any hash now. I will try tomorrow during the day. Strange that any new IBOCers on AM. Who is listening to IBOC on AM? 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager From: rick...@shellworld.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2014 22:33:29 -0700 Subject: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC I may be late to this party, but noticed yesterday that KFNQ-1090 in Seattle is now running IBOC. Not too surprising, since it's owned by CBS. Years ago I used to see them on IBOC lists but never heard the slightest hint of hash. Now 1080 and 1100 may be history here. Noted them with IBOC yesterday. I don't often visit that part of the dial, so don't know when they began using it, but it should easily decode on an HD radio here. -- Rick Lewis ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC
Which AM HD radio do you have? I don't think there has ever been a portable AM HD. Those that I know of are component tuners that require amplification. There are car stereo radios with HD but I don't know if they receive AM HD. I would like to see it die a very quick death. Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 10:09:11 -0700 From: Rick Lewis rick...@shellworld.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC Finally checked KFNQ out on the upstairs HD radio. The HD decodes, but really, it sounds no better than their AM did before they introduced IBOC noise to it. Granted, it sounds much quieter than it does on analog, but only because of the contrast from the hash now mixed with the analog signal. How absurd! -- Rick Sent from my iPad ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC
Die HD Die!!! (hi) ms From: wb6...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 14:20:15 -0700 To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC Which AM HD radio do you have? I don't think there has ever been a portable AM HD. Those that I know of are component tuners that require amplification. There are car stereo radios with HD but I don't know if they receive AM HD. I would like to see it die a very quick death. Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 10:09:11 -0700 From: Rick Lewis rick...@shellworld.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC Finally checked KFNQ out on the upstairs HD radio. The HD decodes, but really, it sounds no better than their AM did before they introduced IBOC noise to it. Granted, it sounds much quieter than it does on analog, but only because of the contrast from the hash now mixed with the analog signal. How absurd! -- Rick Sent from my iPad ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC
Hi Dennis, Let me see if I can remember the model number Sony Xdr S3-HD (could be SDR, I'm going from memory.) It's similar to an unamplified unit (F1HD), which many FM DXers use. I use it mainly for FM DXing. I don't think it's been available since 2010 or 2011. I agree about HD, both in its AM IBOC form and on FM, where, like AM, it takes up two adjacent frequencies. However, HD radios need to be selective on FM, and the Sony is both quite selective and sensitive, which is why I bought it. The downside to the Sony is that it stores digital FM frequencies, so if an HD is off, it takes several seconds for it to register no HD on a previously active HD sideband. The only ways I know of to defeat this, at least for a nontechnical guy like me, is to turn off the unit for two minutes or more, and then the memories and HD placemarkers are erased, along with the tone and stereo settings; or, disconnect antennas and patch cords, thus possibly weakening signals so they don't decode. FM stations with only the main HD channel, as well as AM stations, aren't subject to this behavior. Several other HD radios I've seen don't have this feature. For the curious, picture a 93.1 with two additional HD channels. 93.1-1 is the main, but turning the dial once yields the space where 93.1-2 would be, and then the space for 93.1-3. If you've listened to those extra channels instead of rapidly tuning past them, those empties are stored. Next time you want to check 93.3, there'll be two extra slots after 93.1. Hope I clarified rather than confused. -- Rick - Original Message - From: Dennis Gibson wb6...@yahoo.com To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC Which AM HD radio do you have? I don't think there has ever been a portable AM HD. Those that I know of are component tuners that require amplification. There are car stereo radios with HD but I don't know if they receive AM HD. I would like to see it die a very quick death. Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 10:09:11 -0700 From: Rick Lewis rick...@shellworld.net To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] Seattle's 1090 Now Using IBOC Finally checked KFNQ out on the upstairs HD radio. The HD decodes, but really, it sounds no better than their AM did before they introduced IBOC noise to it. Granted, it sounds much quieter than it does on analog, but only because of the contrast from the hash now mixed with the analog signal. How absurd! -- Rick Sent from my iPad ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
