Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT)
Bert, eBay is easy, my wife and I started in early October 2010 and now are power sellers. I just traded a Kiwa loop for a Hickok FAA tube tester. I still have one Kiwa left. The last Kiwa on eBay sold at auction for $600.00 Take the old maps from your father In-Law and do a search on eBay for each map to see if they sold. There is a completed listings area on eBay and that will tell you what road maps are selling. I'd be happy happy to give you help if you need it. Best regards, Dennis Salmon Creek, WA - Original Message - From: Ira Elbert New III i...@hotmail.com To: HardCore DX irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 8:17:24 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT) Dennis, My Father-In-Law asked me the other day if I wanted a box of old maps he had stored in the basement. I have no idea what condition they're in, but I think some, if not all, of them might end up somewhere for sale. I have no idea how to do eBay, but I guess I could learn. I'll keep my eyes open for a Space Magnet. However, I'm still in the mood for a KIWA Loop if I can find the moola. KI4SYC Bert New Watkinsville, Georgia Proudly Serving You Since 1964! Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 00:40:41 + From: vroom...@comcast.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT) Bert, I have the map listed on eBay. A few months ago I sold a 1945 Washington-Oregon road map on eBay. The map had a greyhound dog logo on it and the map was from a small oil company in Eugene OR. Two fellows wanted it for their collection and it jumped up from $27.00 to $131.00 in the closing seconds of the auction. I purchased the map at a estate sale for.50 cents. The Worchester Space Magnet loops also bring top prices. Best regards, Dennis, Salmon Creek, WA - Original Message - From: Ira Elbert New III i...@hotmail.com To: HardCore DX irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:04:54 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT) Your old map my also be worth something to a collector. Perhaps a new radio might be waiting in the wings if you should sell the map... Bert New Watkinsville, Georgia Proudly Serving You Since 1964! Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 02:08:19 + From: vroom...@comcast.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT) Hello, A few months ago I purchased a 1940 Union Oil Road of Washington-Oregon from a estate sale in Vancouver, WA. The map has a Pacific Coast Radio Guide section. Below are some interesting channel changes since then. 790San Francisco, CA KGO 880Vancouver, BC KVAN typo should have been Vancouver, WA 920Seattle, WAKOMO 1010Vancouver, BC CKWX 1010San Jose, CA KQW 1130Salt Lake City, UT KSL 1160Portland, OR KEX 1230San Francisco, CA KYA 1310Santa Rosa, CA KSRO 1370Berkeley, CA KRE 1380Reno, NV KOH below is a link to photo bucket if you would like to see the list. img src=http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc168/ChevyVroom/009-48.jpg; Best regards, Dennis, Salmon Creek, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list
Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT)
Scott and Dennis. What a nice walk down memory lane. I remember KTNT 1400 Tacoma. I QSL'd them years ago too. There is a lot of history out there. Thanks for sharing. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT)
Your old map my also be worth something to a collector. Perhaps a new radio might be waiting in the wings if you should sell the map... Bert New Watkinsville, Georgia Proudly Serving You Since 1964! Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 02:08:19 + From: vroom...@comcast.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT) Hello, A few months ago I purchased a 1940 Union Oil Road of Washington-Oregon from a estate sale in Vancouver, WA. The map has a Pacific Coast Radio Guide section. Below are some interesting channel changes since then. 790San Francisco, CA KGO 880Vancouver, BC KVAN typo should have been Vancouver, WA 920Seattle, WAKOMO 1010Vancouver, BC CKWX 1010San Jose, CA KQW 1130Salt Lake City, UT KSL 1160Portland, OR KEX 1230San Francisco, CA KYA 1310Santa Rosa, CA KSRO 1370Berkeley, CA KRE 1380Reno, NV KOH below is a link to photo bucket if you would like to see the list. img src=http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc168/ChevyVroom/009-48.jpg; Best regards, Dennis, Salmon Creek, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT)
Ira Elbert New III wrote: Your old map my also be worth something to a collector. Perhaps a new radio might be waiting in the wings if you should sell the map... Not to rain on Dennis' parade, but in my experience the typical oil-company map from that era is a very common find at flea markets or on eBay, usually selling for just a few bucks. But they do indeed make fascinating conversation pieces! s ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT)
On 2011-04-28, at 8:08 PM, vroom...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, A few months ago I purchased a 1940 Union Oil Road of Washington-Oregon from a estate sale in Vancouver, WA. The map has a Pacific Coast Radio Guide section. Below are some interesting channel changes since then. 790San Francisco, CA KGO 880Vancouver, BC KVAN typo should have been Vancouver, WA 920Seattle, WAKOMO 1010Vancouver, BC CKWX 1010San Jose, CA KQW 1130Salt Lake City, UT KSL 1160Portland, OR KEX 1230San Francisco, CA KYA 1310Santa Rosa, CA KSRO 1370Berkeley, CA KRE 1380Reno, NV KOH below is a link to photo bucket if you would like to see the list. img src=http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc168/ChevyVroom/009-48.jpg; Interesting that they listed the low powered shortwave relays on 6030 here in Calgary (which still is on the air rebroadcasting CKMX-1060) and on 6080 in Vancouver (now silent but I QSLed them in the 1980s, when they were still on with their mighty 10 watts rebroadcasting CKWX-1130). 73, Deane McIntyre VE6BPO ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT)
Bert, I have the map listed on eBay. A few months ago I sold a 1945 Washington-Oregon road map on eBay. The map had a greyhound dog logo on it and the map was from a small oil company in Eugene OR. Two fellows wanted it for their collection and it jumped up from $27.00 to $131.00 in the closing seconds of the auction. I purchased the map at a estate sale for.50 cents. The Worchester Space Magnet loops also bring top prices. Best regards, Dennis, Salmon Creek, WA - Original Message - From: Ira Elbert New III i...@hotmail.com To: HardCore DX irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:04:54 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT) Your old map my also be worth something to a collector. Perhaps a new radio might be waiting in the wings if you should sell the map... Bert New Watkinsville, Georgia Proudly Serving You Since 1964! Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 02:08:19 + From: vroom...@comcast.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT) Hello, A few months ago I purchased a 1940 Union Oil Road of Washington-Oregon from a estate sale in Vancouver, WA. The map has a Pacific Coast Radio Guide section. Below are some interesting channel changes since then. 790San Francisco, CA KGO 880Vancouver, BC KVAN typo should have been Vancouver, WA 920Seattle, WAKOMO 1010Vancouver, BC CKWX 1010San Jose, CA KQW 1130Salt Lake City, UT KSL 1160Portland, OR KEX 1230San Francisco, CA KYA 1310Santa Rosa, CA KSRO 1370Berkeley, CA KRE 1380Reno, NV KOH below is a link to photo bucket if you would like to see the list. img src=http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc168/ChevyVroom/009-48.jpg; Best regards, Dennis, Salmon Creek, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT)
Dennis, My Father-In-Law asked me the other day if I wanted a box of old maps he had stored in the basement. I have no idea what condition they're in, but I think some, if not all, of them might end up somewhere for sale. I have no idea how to do eBay, but I guess I could learn. I'll keep my eyes open for a Space Magnet. However, I'm still in the mood for a KIWA Loop if I can find the moola. KI4SYC Bert New Watkinsville, Georgia Proudly Serving You Since 1964! Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 00:40:41 + From: vroom...@comcast.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT) Bert, I have the map listed on eBay. A few months ago I sold a 1945 Washington-Oregon road map on eBay. The map had a greyhound dog logo on it and the map was from a small oil company in Eugene OR. Two fellows wanted it for their collection and it jumped up from $27.00 to $131.00 in the closing seconds of the auction. I purchased the map at a estate sale for.50 cents. The Worchester Space Magnet loops also bring top prices. Best regards, Dennis, Salmon Creek, WA - Original Message - From: Ira Elbert New III i...@hotmail.com To: HardCore DX irca@hard-core-dx.com Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:04:54 PM Subject: Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT) Your old map my also be worth something to a collector. Perhaps a new radio might be waiting in the wings if you should sell the map... Bert New Watkinsville, Georgia Proudly Serving You Since 1964! Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 02:08:19 + From: vroom...@comcast.net To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT) Hello, A few months ago I purchased a 1940 Union Oil Road of Washington-Oregon from a estate sale in Vancouver, WA. The map has a Pacific Coast Radio Guide section. Below are some interesting channel changes since then. 790San Francisco, CA KGO 880Vancouver, BC KVAN typo should have been Vancouver, WA 920Seattle, WAKOMO 1010Vancouver, BC CKWX 1010San Jose, CA KQW 1130Salt Lake City, UT KSL 1160Portland, OR KEX 1230San Francisco, CA KYA 1310Santa Rosa, CA KSRO 1370Berkeley, CA KRE 1380Reno, NV KOH below is a link to photo bucket if you would like to see the list. img src=http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc168/ChevyVroom/009-48.jpg; Best regards, Dennis, Salmon Creek, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT)
Hello, A few months ago I purchased a 1940 Union Oil Road of Washington-Oregon from a estate sale in Vancouver, WA. The map has a Pacific Coast Radio Guide section. Below are some interesting channel changes since then. 790San Francisco, CA KGO 880Vancouver, BC KVAN typo should have been Vancouver, WA 920Seattle, WAKOMO 1010Vancouver, BC CKWX 1010San Jose, CA KQW 1130Salt Lake City, UT KSL 1160Portland, OR KEX 1230San Francisco, CA KYA 1310Santa Rosa, CA KSRO 1370Berkeley, CA KRE 1380Reno, NV KOH below is a link to photo bucket if you would like to see the list. img src=http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc168/ChevyVroom/009-48.jpg; Best regards, Dennis, Salmon Creek, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT)
I also collect old road maps and many maps from the 40s through the 60s will have radio listings. It's a great historical reference. I have about 500 maps in my collection from about that period. Once of my favorite is a Nova Scotia official map from 1982 that lists a lot of low-powered CBC AM outlets through the province, when they were still around. Really interesting stuff. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, vroom...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, A few months ago I purchased a 1940 Union Oil Road of Washington-Oregon from a estate sale in Vancouver, WA. The map has a Pacific Coast Radio Guide section. Below are some interesting channel changes since then. 790 San Francisco, CA KGO 880 Vancouver, BC KVAN typo should have been Vancouver, WA 920 Seattle, WA KOMO 1010 Vancouver, BC CKWX 1010 San Jose, CA KQW 1130 Salt Lake City, UT KSL 1160 Portland, OR KEX 1230 San Francisco, CA KYA 1310 Santa Rosa, CA KSRO 1370 Berkeley, CA KRE 1380 Reno, NV KOH below is a link to photo bucket if you would like to see the list. img src=http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc168/ChevyVroom/009-48.jpg; Best regards, Dennis, Salmon Creek, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com -- John Cereghin WDX3IAO KB3LYP Smyrna, Delaware My radio page www.pilgrimway.org/dx The Ultralight Scoreboard www.pilgrimway.org/ulradio ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT)
I used to collect the great Texaco road maps which had radio listings too. In larger cities there were Texaco Touring Centers where you could pick up maps. My dad worked for RCA at 30 Rock and would drop by the Touring Center and over a span of days get me all 50! Nice memory about old maps, thanks. George Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: John Cereghin jcereg...@gmail.com Sender: irca-boun...@hard-core-dx.com Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:29:03 To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of Americairca@hard-core-dx.com Reply-To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT) I also collect old road maps and many maps from the 40s through the 60s will have radio listings. It's a great historical reference. I have about 500 maps in my collection from about that period. Once of my favorite is a Nova Scotia official map from 1982 that lists a lot of low-powered CBC AM outlets through the province, when they were still around. Really interesting stuff. On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:08 PM, vroom...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, A few months ago I purchased a 1940 Union Oil Road of Washington-Oregon from a estate sale in Vancouver, WA. The map has a Pacific Coast Radio Guide section. Below are some interesting channel changes since then. 790 San Francisco, CA KGO 880 Vancouver, BC KVAN typo should have been Vancouver, WA 920 Seattle, WA KOMO 1010 Vancouver, BC CKWX 1010 San Jose, CA KQW 1130 Salt Lake City, UT KSL 1160 Portland, OR KEX 1230 San Francisco, CA KYA 1310 Santa Rosa, CA KSRO 1370 Berkeley, CA KRE 1380 Reno, NV KOH below is a link to photo bucket if you would like to see the list. img src=http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc168/ChevyVroom/009-48.jpg; Best regards, Dennis, Salmon Creek, WA ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com -- John Cereghin WDX3IAO KB3LYP Smyrna, Delaware My radio page www.pilgrimway.org/dx The Ultralight Scoreboard www.pilgrimway.org/ulradio ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT)
vroom...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, A few months ago I purchased a 1940 Union Oil Road of Washington-Oregon from a estate sale in Vancouver, WA. The map has a Pacific Coast Radio Guide section. Below are some interesting channel changes since then. 790San Francisco, CA KGO 880Vancouver, BC KVAN typo should have been Vancouver, WA 920Seattle, WAKOMO 1010Vancouver, BC CKWX 1010San Jose, CA KQW 1130Salt Lake City, UT KSL 1160Portland, OR KEX 1230San Francisco, CA KYA 1310Santa Rosa, CA KSRO 1370Berkeley, CA KRE 1380Reno, NV KOH Dennis, your map dates from just one year before all of these stations changed frequency. The NARBA treaty that took effect March 29, 1941 shifted most of these stations to the frequencies on which we're used to finding them, largely 30 kHz up from where they're listed here. There were a few exceptions: stations below 880 on the dial moved up only 20 kHz, so KGO went to 810. (Stations from 740-780 on the dial moved up only 10 kHz, so KGHL Billings went from 780 to 790, for instance.) KOMO went from 920 to 950, but just for a few years: in 1944 it swapped facilities with KJR, which had moved from 970 to 1000. The 1010 channel on which CKWX and KQW both operated was split up; KQW landed on 740 (a Canadian clear channel), while CKWX moved around before landing on 1130. The Canadian and Mexican stations didn't move in as regular a fashion as the US signals; XEMO on 860 in Tijuana, for instance, didn't move at all. KSRO moved first to 1340 before getting an upgrade from class IV to class III and shifting to 1350. There were a bunch of stations like that: KERN in Bakersfield was a graveyarder on 1370 and then 1400 before becoming a class III on 1410; KRKO in Everett was likewise on 1370/1400 before moving to 1380. KOH moved to 1410 before getting an upgrade as well and moving down the dial to 630. (And it was the ONLY station in all of Nevada at the time; little tiny Las Vegas didn't get its first station until 1941 or 1942!) Your scan includes a bunch of local (class IV) stations that were operating on 1500 - KVOE Santa Ana, KDB Santa Barbara, etc. Those stations moved to 1490, for the most part. And the top of the dial, which had been 1500, expanded to 1600. The 1940 list includes one station above 1500, KPMC Bakersfield at 1550. It was one of several experimental stations authorized in the expanded band of the 1930s; it moved to 1560 and became today's KNZR. A few more interesting ones from your list: KXL was just a shared-time graveyarder back then, splitting time on 1420 (later 1450) with KBPS. It didn't move to 750 until later in the 1940s, and as a daytimer. There was a 780 (later 790) in Longview, WA, KWLK. Not sure what became of that one. KGB in San Diego appears on 1300. I think that's a typo, and should have been 1330; it moved to 1360 with NARBA. A lot of regional channels hadn't been fully occupied yet: KWAL in Wallace ID was still on 1420 (later 1450), not yet on 620. KPQ in Wenatchee was a graveyarder, too, on 1500 (later 1490). KID in Idaho Falls was on 1320 (later 1350), not yet on 590. KFXD in Nampa was on 1200 (later 1230), not yet on 580, and KIDO in Boise was on 1350 (later 1380), not yet on 630. KOY in Phoenix was on 1390 (later 1420), not 550. And there are some funny ironies: there was a KEEN on 1370 then, but it wasn't in San Jose, it was in Seattle, the station that I think would later become KTNT Tacoma on 1400. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT)
Amazing stuff. While KRE is long gone, they still hold the annual KRE Jazz Festival in the Bay Area. ms Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:46:40 -0400 From: sc...@fybush.com To: irca@hard-core-dx.com Subject: Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT) vroom...@comcast.net wrote: Hello, A few months ago I purchased a 1940 Union Oil Road of Washington-Oregon from a estate sale in Vancouver, WA. The map has a Pacific Coast Radio Guide section. Below are some interesting channel changes since then. 790San Francisco, CA KGO 880Vancouver, BC KVAN typo should have been Vancouver, WA 920Seattle, WAKOMO 1010Vancouver, BC CKWX 1010San Jose, CA KQW 1130Salt Lake City, UT KSL 1160Portland, OR KEX 1230San Francisco, CA KYA 1310Santa Rosa, CA KSRO 1370Berkeley, CA KRE 1380Reno, NV KOH Dennis, your map dates from just one year before all of these stations changed frequency. The NARBA treaty that took effect March 29, 1941 shifted most of these stations to the frequencies on which we're used to finding them, largely 30 kHz up from where they're listed here. There were a few exceptions: stations below 880 on the dial moved up only 20 kHz, so KGO went to 810. (Stations from 740-780 on the dial moved up only 10 kHz, so KGHL Billings went from 780 to 790, for instance.) KOMO went from 920 to 950, but just for a few years: in 1944 it swapped facilities with KJR, which had moved from 970 to 1000. The 1010 channel on which CKWX and KQW both operated was split up; KQW landed on 740 (a Canadian clear channel), while CKWX moved around before landing on 1130. The Canadian and Mexican stations didn't move in as regular a fashion as the US signals; XEMO on 860 in Tijuana, for instance, didn't move at all. KSRO moved first to 1340 before getting an upgrade from class IV to class III and shifting to 1350. There were a bunch of stations like that: KERN in Bakersfield was a graveyarder on 1370 and then 1400 before becoming a class III on 1410; KRKO in Everett was likewise on 1370/1400 before moving to 1380. KOH moved to 1410 before getting an upgrade as well and moving down the dial to 630. (And it was the ONLY station in all of Nevada at the time; little tiny Las Vegas didn't get its first station until 1941 or 1942!) Your scan includes a bunch of local (class IV) stations that were operating on 1500 - KVOE Santa Ana, KDB Santa Barbara, etc. Those stations moved to 1490, for the most part. And the top of the dial, which had been 1500, expanded to 1600. The 1940 list includes one station above 1500, KPMC Bakersfield at 1550. It was one of several experimental stations authorized in the expanded band of the 1930s; it moved to 1560 and became today's KNZR. A few more interesting ones from your list: KXL was just a shared-time graveyarder back then, splitting time on 1420 (later 1450) with KBPS. It didn't move to 750 until later in the 1940s, and as a daytimer. There was a 780 (later 790) in Longview, WA, KWLK. Not sure what became of that one. KGB in San Diego appears on 1300. I think that's a typo, and should have been 1330; it moved to 1360 with NARBA. A lot of regional channels hadn't been fully occupied yet: KWAL in Wallace ID was still on 1420 (later 1450), not yet on 620. KPQ in Wenatchee was a graveyarder, too, on 1500 (later 1490). KID in Idaho Falls was on 1320 (later 1350), not yet on 590. KFXD in Nampa was on 1200 (later 1230), not yet on 580, and KIDO in Boise was on 1350 (later 1380), not yet on 630. KOY in Phoenix was on 1390 (later 1420), not 550. And there are some funny ironies: there was a KEEN on 1370 then, but it wasn't in San Jose, it was in Seattle, the station that I think would later become KTNT Tacoma on 1400. ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Union Oil Road Map with 1940 Radio Guide listings (OT)
Mike, KRE 1400 returned briefly in the early 80s when the FCC agreed to allow the old 3 calls back. I got KRE QSL'd at the time. Then they changed calls again. 73, Patrick Patrick Martin Seaside OR KGED QSL Manager ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
