Re: [IRCA] Where's the Korean Jammer When You Need It?
Thanks Chris, <<< Actually, all jammers on MW, SW, and FM are still on the air as normally in Korea. >>> Although I'm as interested in peace and reconciliation as the Koreans, those jammers are actually pretty interesting DX in Hawaii, where I heard two of them in December (801 and 855) that had apparently never been received in North America. The 621-VoK Japanese service from Chongjin (with its notorious buzzing transmitter) was also a big surprise at S9 in Kona, snarling with China and Tuvalu. I'll try to go after the weaker Pyongyang BS stations next month, and see how many jammers also show up. <<< If you have not heard these stations, the reason must be poor conditions or poor luck. They are all there. >>> Actually the reason is a poor DXing location, which is definitely in the minor league in comparison to Hawaii (which obviously has Asian propagation far superior to any place on our west coast). The Korean propagation into Hawaii reminded me of when I lived in Iwakuni, Japan as a teenager-- feeling like I was right next to the DMZ. Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) > On October 2, 2018 at 10:25 PM Chris Kadlec mailto:beagleb...@beaglebass.com > wrote: > > > Actually, all jammers on MW, SW, and FM are still on the air as normally > in Korea. I would send you the SDR of them, but... heck, this list can barely > even handle its own text that we send it. There have been no changes in the > radio situation. Just some hopeful people dreaming that it might change. > Seoul and Hwaseong are still broadcasting on 657, 810, 819, 855, etc. with > the coastal Incheon sites still on 855. Of course, 1053 Gimpo, 1053 Seoul, > and 1080 Seoul have been off for two years now because Haeju is turned off. > All the FM jammers for all the Echo of Unification stations on the outskirts > of Seoul are still on as usual. All the usual SW jammers at Taereung and > Haengjusanseong are operating as usual. 3970 (3965 actually at the moment) is > still drunken on the SDR like 801 used to be in the DPRK, drifting around the > dial. If you have not heard these stations, the reason must be poor > conditions or poor luck. They are all there. > > -Chris Kadlec > > > > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 02:11:57 -0700 (PDT) > From: Gary DeBock mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net > > To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America > mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com >, Chris Kadlec > mailto:beagleb...@beaglebass.com > > Subject: Re: [IRCA] Where's the Korean Jammer When You Need It? > > Yes, Chris, I understand that Pyongyang switched to the UTC+9 system > (from UTC+8 1/2) after the first inter-Korean summit this year. So now it > seems that China (with the CNR stations having their 1+1 pip on the half > hour) is one of the few TP countries still broadcasting pips at half past the > hour. > > Last December in Kona, Hawaii it was easy to track down KCBS and > Pyongyang BS stations on multiple frequencies because of their pips on the > half hour, but next month on Kauai I guess I'll need to work harder on the > busy frequencies. It seems like the Southern jammers on 801. 819 and 855 have > also been turned off as a result of the summit. The S9+ signals from 819-KCBS > every evening will probably be the same, though! > > Gary > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com mailto:IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, > its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Where's the Korean Jammer When You Need It?
Actually, all jammers on MW, SW, and FM are still on the air as normally in Korea. I would send you the SDR of them, but... heck, this list can barely even handle its own text that we send it. There have been no changes in the radio situation. Just some hopeful people dreaming that it might change. Seoul and Hwaseong are still broadcasting on 657, 810, 819, 855, etc. with the coastal Incheon sites still on 855. Of course, 1053 Gimpo, 1053 Seoul, and 1080 Seoul have been off for two years now because Haeju is turned off. All the FM jammers for all the Echo of Unification stations on the outskirts of Seoul are still on as usual. All the usual SW jammers at Taereung and Haengjusanseong are operating as usual. 3970 (3965 actually at the moment) is still drunken on the SDR like 801 used to be in the DPRK, drifting around the dial. If you have not heard these stations, the reason must be poor conditions or poor luck. They are all there. -Chris Kadlec Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 02:11:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary DeBock To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America , Chris Kadlec Subject: Re: [IRCA] Where's the Korean Jammer When You Need It? Yes, Chris, I understand that Pyongyang switched to the UTC+9 system (from UTC+8 1/2) after the first inter-Korean summit this year. So now it seems that China (with the CNR stations having their 1+1 pip on the half hour) is one of the few TP countries still broadcasting pips at half past the hour. Last December in Kona, Hawaii it was easy to track down KCBS and Pyongyang BS stations on multiple frequencies because of their pips on the half hour, but next month on Kauai I guess I'll need to work harder on the busy frequencies. It seems like the Southern jammers on 801. 819 and 855 have also been turned off as a result of the summit. The S9+ signals from 819-KCBS every evening will probably be the same, though! Gary ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Where's the Korean Jammer When You Need It?
Yes, Chris, I understand that Pyongyang switched to the UTC+9 system (from UTC+8 1/2) after the first inter-Korean summit this year. So now it seems that China (with the CNR stations having their 1+1 pip on the half hour) is one of the few TP countries still broadcasting pips at half past the hour. Last December in Kona, Hawaii it was easy to track down KCBS and Pyongyang BS stations on multiple frequencies because of their pips on the half hour, but next month on Kauai I guess I'll need to work harder on the busy frequencies. It seems like the Southern jammers on 801. 819 and 855 have also been turned off as a result of the summit. The S9+ signals from 819-KCBS every evening will probably be the same, though! Gary > On October 2, 2018 at 1:00 AM Chris Kadlec mailto:beagleb...@beaglebass.com > wrote: > > > As Pyongyang is UTC+9, the pips should never be on the half hour anymore, > though I think you actually know that already. > > Time pips sure do help ID things when they're the only things that break > through interference or static, a lot like stations airing classical music or > NHK 2 with their music box. I could hear that across the whole AM band at > sign-off even on stations where I hear no sign of NHK a few minutes before. > > -Chris Kadlec > > > > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 15:52:44 -0700 (PDT) > From: Gary DeBock mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net > > To: "America, Mailing" mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com > > Subject: [IRCA] Where's the Korean Jammer When You Need It? > > After some overnight FSL antenna work I decided to check the band around > local sunrise, hoping for some strong TP signals to break through the > neighbor's S7 electrical noise. > > > 657-Pyongyang was one of the few that could break through, although it > was tough to decide which was worse-- Pyongyang's corny music (at 1256), or > the electrical noise > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/pj0vrs8cjkolzskklvkn3sfvfi6jszd1 > > Whether the 3+1 TOH pips are on the half hour or the hour (as at 1300 > this morning), it's always time to tune away from this station > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/xlmyrowwabaz71v4fqu441jekg7pq4ma > > No wonder all the radios made in North Korea make it impossible to tune > in anything else. > > > Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) > > Stock XHDATA D-808 + 15" FSL antenna > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com mailto:IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, > its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Where's the Korean Jammer When You Need It?
As Pyongyang is UTC+9, the pips should never be on the half hour anymore, though I think you actually know that already. Time pips sure do help ID things when they're the only things that break through interference or static, a lot like stations airing classical music or NHK 2 with their music box. I could hear that across the whole AM band at sign-off even on stations where I hear no sign of NHK a few minutes before. -Chris Kadlec Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 15:52:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary DeBock To: "America, Mailing" Subject: [IRCA] Where's the Korean Jammer When You Need It? After some overnight FSL antenna work I decided to check the band around local sunrise, hoping for some strong TP signals to break through the neighbor's S7 electrical noise. 657-Pyongyang was one of the few that could break through, although it was tough to decide which was worse-- Pyongyang's corny music (at 1256), or the electrical noise https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/pj0vrs8cjkolzskklvkn3sfvfi6jszd1 Whether the 3+1 TOH pips are on the half hour or the hour (as at 1300 this morning), it's always time to tune away from this station https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/xlmyrowwabaz71v4fqu441jekg7pq4ma No wonder all the radios made in North Korea make it impossible to tune in anything else. Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) Stock XHDATA D-808 + 15" FSL antenna ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Where's the Korean Jammer When You Need It?
Thanks Steve, I'm glad that the TOH recording helped you to nail it down (at least the "C sharp" TOH chime). North Korea used to have its "TOH" on the half hour until this spring, when their time system abruptly changed to follow most of the rest of the world. The 1330 UTC "TOH" recordings of 657-Pyongyang were some of the strongest ones ever recorded here. Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA) > On October 1, 2018 at 8:47 PM STEVE mailto:ratzlaffst...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > With my newly repaired Perseus SDR back in operation I've been recording > in the morning while listening live on the R75. Checking the recording, > 657 kHz at 1300 utc I have the same "C sharp" note TOH chime that Gary's > (much better) recording has. I can barely hear just the chime, not any > pips. Today was a tiny bit better conditions than the last number of > days where it's been awful for TP AMBC. > > Steve AA7U > > near Sahuarita, AZ > > Perseus recording from 140' west DKAZ + FLG100 preamp > > On 10/1/2018 3:52 PM, Gary DeBock wrote: > > > > After some overnight FSL antenna work I decided to check the band > around local sunrise, hoping for some strong TP signals to break through the > neighbor's S7 electrical noise. > > > > > > > > > > 657-Pyongyang was one of the few that could break through, > although it was tough to decide which was worse-- Pyongyang's corny music (at > 1256), or the electrical noise > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/pj0vrs8cjkolzskklvkn3sfvfi6jszd1 > > > > > > > > Whether the 3+1 TOH pips are on the half hour or the hour (as at > 1300 this morning), it's always time to tune away from this station > https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/xlmyrowwabaz71v4fqu441jekg7pq4ma > > > > > > > > No wonder all the radios made in North Korea make it impossible > to tune in anything else. > > > > > > > > > > Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) > > > > > > > > Stock XHDATA D-808 + 15" FSL antenna > > > > > ___ > IRCA mailing list > IRCA@hard-core-dx.com mailto:IRCA@hard-core-dx.com > http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca > > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, > its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > > To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com mailto:irca@hard-core-dx.com > ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Where's the Korean Jammer When You Need It?
With my newly repaired Perseus SDR back in operation I've been recording in the morning while listening live on the R75. Checking the recording, 657 kHz at 1300 utc I have the same "C sharp" note TOH chime that Gary's (much better) recording has. I can barely hear just the chime, not any pips. Today was a tiny bit better conditions than the last number of days where it's been awful for TP AMBC. Steve AA7U near Sahuarita, AZ Perseus recording from 140' west DKAZ + FLG100 preamp On 10/1/2018 3:52 PM, Gary DeBock wrote: After some overnight FSL antenna work I decided to check the band around local sunrise, hoping for some strong TP signals to break through the neighbor's S7 electrical noise. 657-Pyongyang was one of the few that could break through, although it was tough to decide which was worse-- Pyongyang's corny music (at 1256), or the electrical noise https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/pj0vrs8cjkolzskklvkn3sfvfi6jszd1 Whether the 3+1 TOH pips are on the half hour or the hour (as at 1300 this morning), it's always time to tune away from this station https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/xlmyrowwabaz71v4fqu441jekg7pq4ma No wonder all the radios made in North Korea make it impossible to tune in anything else. Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) Stock XHDATA D-808 + 15" FSL antenna ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
Re: [IRCA] Where's the Korean Jammer When You Need It?
--- Begin Message --- Hi Gary, Thanks for the updates and the great work on the Airport Friendly FSL! I am really looking forward to getting together with the Victoria TP DXers and a couple of days in Tofino, hopefully with good conditions, equipped the Supercharged PL-380 and Airport Friendly FSL! I would like to have the PRK station concerns you have on 657. I have a 50 kW local blowtorch on 670 that loves using it's IBOC, thereby dominating close to a 30 kHz swath of bandwidth. Vancouver Island here I come! 73, Craig BarnesWheat Ridge, CO On Monday, October 1, 2018, 4:52:52 PM MDT, Gary DeBock wrote: After some overnight FSL antenna work I decided to check the band around local sunrise, hoping for some strong TP signals to break through the neighbor's S7 electrical noise. 657-Pyongyang was one of the few that could break through, although it was tough to decide which was worse-- Pyongyang's corny music (at 1256), or the electrical noise https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/pj0vrs8cjkolzskklvkn3sfvfi6jszd1 Whether the 3+1 TOH pips are on the half hour or the hour (as at 1300 this morning), it's always time to tune away from this station https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/xlmyrowwabaz71v4fqu441jekg7pq4ma No wonder all the radios made in North Korea make it impossible to tune in anything else. Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) Stock XHDATA D-808 + 15" FSL antenna ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com --- End Message --- ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
[IRCA] Where's the Korean Jammer When You Need It?
After some overnight FSL antenna work I decided to check the band around local sunrise, hoping for some strong TP signals to break through the neighbor's S7 electrical noise. 657-Pyongyang was one of the few that could break through, although it was tough to decide which was worse-- Pyongyang's corny music (at 1256), or the electrical noise https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/pj0vrs8cjkolzskklvkn3sfvfi6jszd1 Whether the 3+1 TOH pips are on the half hour or the hour (as at 1300 this morning), it's always time to tune away from this station https://dreamcrafts.box.com/s/xlmyrowwabaz71v4fqu441jekg7pq4ma No wonder all the radios made in North Korea make it impossible to tune in anything else. Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA) Stock XHDATA D-808 + 15" FSL antenna ___ IRCA mailing list IRCA@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/irca Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org To Post a message: irca@hard-core-dx.com
