Re: [IRCA] XHDATA D-808 FM-DXing Comparison with Tecsun PL-380

2018-06-02 Thread Pete Taylor
Gary,

Thanks for your reviews on this new receiver. Having RDS is a big plus.

A suggestion. As you review and compare, please note whether the sets have the 
“line out” feature since this is a big help (at least to me). Thanks.
 
Pete Taylor
Tacoma, WA
12225w 4719n
HQ180 & ICF2010
Kiwa aircore & Palomar loops
DX398, SRF-59 & M37V
Eton E100 + Tecsun PL-300/380






> On Jun 1, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Gary DeBock  wrote:
> 
> After receiving an inquiry from Mark Roberts concerning the new XHDATA 
> D-808's FM-DXing sensitivity, I decided to run a detailed comparison with the 
> Tecsun PL-380-- one of the Si4734 DSP chip models which gained top FM-DXing 
> honors in the 2015 Ultralight Radio Shootout review. In my very mediocre 
> Puyallup Valley location (surrounded by hills on 3 sides), I checked three FM 
> fringe stations which have a reputation for being tough FM catches 
> 
> 
> The new XHDATA is a very sensitive performer on the FM band. In direct 
> comparison with the PL-380 in outperformed the Tecsun in the reception of the 
> low-powered 95.3 KGY in Olympia, WA, 100.3 CKQQ in Langley, BC, and 106.5 
> KWPZ in Lynden, WA. The D-808 had 95.3 KGY at a weak level, while the PL-380 
> had nothing at all. On 100.3 the D-808 had CKQQ at a good level (plus an UnID 
> Spanish station under it) while the PL-380 had only CKQQ at a fair level. On 
> 106.5 the D-808 had KWPZ at a good level, while the Tecsun had it at a fair 
> level. FM selectivity was identical in the two models. The D-808 benefits 
> greatly from its 26" (66cm) whip antenna, compared to the PL-380's 21.75" 
> (55cm) antenna. In addition the D-808's RDS capability really augments the 
> model's FM-DXing sensitivity, adding an extra dimension to the entire 
> experience. FM-DXers can order with confidence!
> 
> 
> Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
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Re: [IRCA] XHDATA D-808 FM-DXing Comparison with Tecsun PL-380

2018-06-02 Thread Gary DeBock
Hi Pete,

<<< A suggestion. As you review and compare, please note whether the sets have 
the “line out” feature since this is a big help (at least to me). >>>

Yes, normally I would do that in a full review, but this was kind of a special 
case of a foreign-designed model that was unavailable in North America until 
very recently. The individual reports will surely be combined into a full D-808 
review eventually

Unfortunately, the model doesn't have a "line out" recording jack (and as a 
"Frequent Flyer," I know how useful that would be). The D-808 has a powerful 
audio amp, though, very similar to the Tecsun PL-380 and other Si4734 models 
(and much stronger than the rather wimpy CC Skywave audio amp). We will need to 
keep trying our luck with the volume control settings on remote ocean beaches 
:-)

Gary


> On June 1, 2018 at 9:16 PM Pete Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Gary,
> 
> Thanks for your reviews on this new receiver. Having RDS is a big plus.
> 
> A suggestion. As you review and compare, please note whether the sets 
> have the “line out” feature since this is a big help (at least to me). Thanks.
>  
> Pete Taylor
> Tacoma, WA
> 12225w 4719n
> HQ180 & ICF2010
> Kiwa aircore & Palomar loops
> DX398, SRF-59 & M37V
> Eton E100 + Tecsun PL-300/380
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > > On Jun 1, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Gary DeBock 
> mailto:d1028g...@comcast.net > wrote:
> > 
> > After receiving an inquiry from Mark Roberts concerning the new 
> > XHDATA D-808's FM-DXing sensitivity, I decided to run a detailed comparison 
> > with the Tecsun PL-380-- one of the Si4734 DSP chip models which gained top 
> > FM-DXing honors in the 2015 Ultralight Radio Shootout review. In my very 
> > mediocre Puyallup Valley location (surrounded by hills on 3 sides), I 
> > checked three FM fringe stations which have a reputation for being tough FM 
> > catches
> > 
> > 
> > The new XHDATA is a very sensitive performer on the FM band. In 
> > direct comparison with the PL-380 in outperformed the Tecsun in the 
> > reception of the low-powered 95.3 KGY in Olympia, WA, 100.3 CKQQ in 
> > Langley, BC, and 106.5 KWPZ in Lynden, WA. The D-808 had 95.3 KGY at a weak 
> > level, while the PL-380 had nothing at all. On 100.3 the D-808 had CKQQ at 
> > a good level (plus an UnID Spanish station under it) while the PL-380 had 
> > only CKQQ at a fair level. On 106.5 the D-808 had KWPZ at a good level, 
> > while the Tecsun had it at a fair level. FM selectivity was identical in 
> > the two models. The D-808 benefits greatly from its 26" (66cm) whip 
> > antenna, compared to the PL-380's 21.75" (55cm) antenna. In addition the 
> > D-808's RDS capability really augments the model's FM-DXing sensitivity, 
> > adding an extra dimension to the entire experience. FM-DXers can order with 
> > confidence!
> > 
> > 
> > Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
> > 
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Re: [IRCA] XHDATA D-808 FM-DXing Comparison with Tecsun PL-380

2018-06-01 Thread Paul A. Steckler
Where can you buy one? The sites I've checked won't ship it to the US
(not FCC-approved, maybe?).

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 7:31 PM, Gary DeBock  wrote:
> After receiving an inquiry from Mark Roberts concerning the new XHDATA 
> D-808's FM-DXing sensitivity, I decided to run a detailed comparison with the 
> Tecsun PL-380-- one of the Si4734 DSP chip models which gained top FM-DXing 
> honors in the 2015 Ultralight Radio Shootout review. In my very mediocre 
> Puyallup Valley location (surrounded by hills on 3 sides), I checked three FM 
> fringe stations which have a reputation for being tough FM catches
>
>
> The new XHDATA is a very sensitive performer on the FM band. In direct 
> comparison with the PL-380 in outperformed the Tecsun in the reception of the 
> low-powered 95.3 KGY in Olympia, WA, 100.3 CKQQ in Langley, BC, and 106.5 
> KWPZ in Lynden, WA. The D-808 had 95.3 KGY at a weak level, while the PL-380 
> had nothing at all. On 100.3 the D-808 had CKQQ at a good level (plus an UnID 
> Spanish station under it) while the PL-380 had only CKQQ at a fair level. On 
> 106.5 the D-808 had KWPZ at a good level, while the Tecsun had it at a fair 
> level. FM selectivity was identical in the two models. The D-808 benefits 
> greatly from its 26" (66cm) whip antenna, compared to the PL-380's 21.75" 
> (55cm) antenna. In addition the D-808's RDS capability really augments the 
> model's FM-DXing sensitivity, adding an extra dimension to the entire 
> experience. FM-DXers can order with confidence!
>
>
> Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)
>
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[IRCA] XHDATA D-808 FM-DXing Comparison with Tecsun PL-380

2018-06-01 Thread Gary DeBock
After receiving an inquiry from Mark Roberts concerning the new XHDATA D-808's 
FM-DXing sensitivity, I decided to run a detailed comparison with the Tecsun 
PL-380-- one of the Si4734 DSP chip models which gained top FM-DXing honors in 
the 2015 Ultralight Radio Shootout review. In my very mediocre Puyallup Valley 
location (surrounded by hills on 3 sides), I checked three FM fringe stations 
which have a reputation for being tough FM catches 


The new XHDATA is a very sensitive performer on the FM band. In direct 
comparison with the PL-380 in outperformed the Tecsun in the reception of the 
low-powered 95.3 KGY in Olympia, WA, 100.3 CKQQ in Langley, BC, and 106.5 KWPZ 
in Lynden, WA. The D-808 had 95.3 KGY at a weak level, while the PL-380 had 
nothing at all. On 100.3 the D-808 had CKQQ at a good level (plus an UnID 
Spanish station under it) while the PL-380 had only CKQQ at a fair level. On 
106.5 the D-808 had KWPZ at a good level, while the Tecsun had it at a fair 
level. FM selectivity was identical in the two models. The D-808 benefits 
greatly from its 26" (66cm) whip antenna, compared to the PL-380's 21.75" 
(55cm) antenna. In addition the D-808's RDS capability really augments the 
model's FM-DXing sensitivity, adding an extra dimension to the entire 
experience. FM-DXers can order with confidence!


Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)

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