Re: [isabelle-dev] PLATFORMS: Mac OS X

2017-04-07 Thread Makarius
On 07/04/17 10:04, Salomon Sickert wrote:
> 
>>> In this case I recommend to bump the baseline for Ubuntu up to 14.04 LTS
>>> (or even 16.04 LTS).
>>
>> How did you get to that conclusion? Ubuntu LTS support lasts 5 years.
>> Empiricially, I've seen the last 3 LTS versions being installed by
>> Isabelle users. Consequently, we have only recently dropped 10.04 LTS
>> and are now at 12.04 LTS for some years to come.
> 
> The current date is 7.4.2017. Thus this is the last month of support for 
> 12.04 LTS. 

Last month of *official* support. This means users will have it around
2-3 more years.

There is no problem to support old Linux versions. I don't see why they
should be cut-off prematurely.


>> Dropping Mavericks now would mean to reinstall macbroy2, which is our
>> main witness for non-trivial Apple hardware. Such a change comes with
>> the risk that the system stops working afterwards: the old saying "never
>> change a running system" has some truth in it.
> 
> I don’t get why supporting fewer systems is more work.

I did not say that. The explanation was about the risk of re-installing
a running Apple system.


Makarius

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Re: [isabelle-dev] PLATFORMS: Mac OS X

2017-04-07 Thread Salomon Sickert

>> In this case I recommend to bump the baseline for Ubuntu up to 14.04 LTS
>> (or even 16.04 LTS).
> 
> How did you get to that conclusion? Ubuntu LTS support lasts 5 years.
> Empiricially, I've seen the last 3 LTS versions being installed by
> Isabelle users. Consequently, we have only recently dropped 10.04 LTS
> and are now at 12.04 LTS for some years to come.

The current date is 7.4.2017. Thus this is the last month of support for 12.04 
LTS. 

>> And secondly dropping support for OS X Mavericks, since that is also
>> unsupported by Apple right now.
> 
> Dropping Mavericks now would mean to reinstall macbroy2, which is our
> main witness for non-trivial Apple hardware. Such a change comes with
> the risk that the system stops working afterwards: the old saying "never
> change a running system" has some truth in it.

I don’t get why supporting fewer systems is more work. But anyways it was just 
a suggestion.

Best,
Salomon

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