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> The Open Office software has a Spellcheck function that does not work.  No
> one at the management of this software has been able to supply the end users
> with a patch or SIMPLE EASY TO UNDERSTAND steps to rectify this issue
> thereby rendering the software, in its present state, useless. 
> 
> Apparently it is caused by a user profile directory. Supposedly, if the
> profile is deleted or renaming of the user profile director, the problem
> will be corrected.  My question is : WHAT THE SPECIFIC STEPS TO ACCOMPLISH
> THIS TASK??
1.  Go to the Writer forum at
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewforum.php?f=7.  
2.  See the first post in the forum - it is [Solved] Spell Check Not Working
(words red underlined) at
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7=89052.

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--- Comment #152 from gregar...@aol.com  ---
The Open Office software has a Spellcheck function that does not work.  No one
at the management of this software has been able to supply the end users with a
patch or SIMPLE EASY TO UNDERSTAND steps to rectify this issue thereby
rendering the software, in its present state, useless. 

Apparently it is caused by a user profile directory. Supposedly, if the profile
is deleted or renaming of the user profile director, the problem will be
corrected.  My question is : WHAT THE SPECIFIC STEPS TO ACCOMPLISH THIS TASK??

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spellcheck

The SPELLCHECK feature does not work

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4.1.6 Windows 10 still red underline of all words.
User dictionary can be constructed.
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> (In reply to hanya from comment #103)
> hanya's python script has now been downloaded 330 times from
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=85529 and no
> person has reported any difficulty with it.  
> 
> There is a now sticky at the top of the Writer forum "[Solved] Spell Check
> Not Working (words red underlined)" which tells people how to fix spell
> check problems and directs them to the script. It has been viewed 1,200
> times. 
> 
> Whereas spell check questions were the most frequent posts on the forum they
> are now extremely rare.
> 
> Can development please consider including hyanya's Python script in the AOO
> profile so that forum could be updated to tell users merely to run the
> script instead of having to create the (hidden!) folder, download and unzip
> the script, place it in the folder and run it.

issue #127768 has been submitted as an RFE for this

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hanya's python script has now been downloaded 330 times from
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=85529 and no person
has reported any difficulty with it.  

There is a now sticky at the top of the Writer forum "[Solved] Spell Check Not
Working (words red underlined)" which tells people how to fix spell check
problems and directs them to the script. It has been viewed 1,200 times. 

Whereas spell check questions were the most frequent posts on the forum they
are now extremely rare.

Can development please consider including hyanya's Python script in the AOO
profile so that forum could be updated to tell users merely to run the script
instead of having to create the (hidden!) folder, download and unzip the
script, place it in the folder and run it.

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Thank you.  

hanya describes his analysis of the problem and the rationale for his script in
Comment 103 which I have copied below.  (NB.  hanya's reference to
registrymodifications.xcu is in response to my Comment 102 where I wrongly
thought the fault lay in registrymodifications.xcu)

In my [hanya] oppinion, the spell checker problem is not in
registrymodifications.xcu, but the problem there in the remained configuration
file in
user/uno_packages/cache/registry/com.sun.star.comp.deployment.configuration.PackageRegistryBackend
directory.

If a configuration file which contains %origin% placeholder in an extension
package, a file is created with expanded %origin% in the backend directory. 
It looks, if uninstallation or update of some extension package terminated by
some issue, a generated file remained in backend. But the real contant of the
extension package has been gone. So the remaiend file tells the dictionary file
should be loaded. But if there is no dictionary file in the specified location
in the configuration, all words are marked as wrong with red wave under line.

After revision 1762054, dictionary files not found are ignored. But still the
broken configuration causes problems like spell checker not working.

Even if there is the way to reset registrymodification.xcu file, this problem
would not be solved. 

Because there is no settings causes this problem in registrymodification.xcu
file.

So, proposed way to fix this problem in user's profile is:

- Find configuration files which contains dictionary location in the
configuration backedn directory mentioned above.
- Check existance of dictionary files listed in the found files.
- If a dictionary file is not exist anymore, omit the part in the file.
- Restart the office.
- Check dictionaries installed in the extension manager.

The files in the registry backend should be listed in backenddb.xml and
configmgr.ini file. 

If we can remove files which contains the problem safely from the lists, we
should do so.

But remained configuration files are not problem if there is no error in the
file anymore.

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--- Comment #131 from Peter  ---
Thank you John. This sounded differently on the mailing list.
So I thought maybe no actions are needed, but you have convinced me otherwise.

I agree with you. Adding the "Beta - Script" sounds like an improvement.
But from your description we should look for solutions to awoid this data
corruption. A "Won't Fix is definitly not an option.
I do not believe that a lot of people treat their system like there is no
tomorrow. If you say you get these often. We need to come up with an approach.

Lets see what the mailing list thinks.

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--- Comment #130 from John  ---
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> I have checked with the community.
> The usual root case of spell checking stopped working is that users do not
> shut down their systems probably.
Peter

I am one of the Forum Volunteers and the person who raised the spellcheck
problem.  I did so because it is the most common problem reported in the User
Forum - we sometimes get several posts a week! eg June 7, June 5, May 29, May
25, May 14 ...

We are GUESSING that the reason is because users do not shut down properly,
probably slamming the laptop lid shut.  We have no knowledge.  (And, shouldn't
the OS handle slamming the lid shut gracefully)  

The reasons for our GUESS are:

1  We THINK, but we do not know, that the profile is the last thing to be
written when AOO is closed.

2  We KNOW that when AOO closes, it continues to write files long after the
"blue bar" has ceased to cross the bottom of the screen.  Users see the blue
bar finish and think all is finished - it is not!  We THINK this is writing the
profile after the document file has been saved.

My suggestion:

hanya wrote a python script which fixes spellcheck problems - see 
Spell checker "red wriggly lines" - beta test fix at
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74=85529.  

If this script is included in the AOO download then the forum could tell people
to run the script.  As it is today, we have to tell them to download the ZIP
file containing the script, unzip the file, create a folder in the profile
(case sensitive name!), install the script, and then run it.  

Alternatively, we tell them to rebuild the profile.  Just replacing the profile
with the AOO default profile loses all the user customisation, AutoCorrect
words, user dictionary etc, and all macros get lost. In fact we GUESS that the
corruption lies only in
C:\Users\xx\AppData\Roaming\OpenOffice\4\user\config\ and suggest they
replace all other folders except ...\config.

If you could give us any suggestions for debugging we will be very pleased to
help you.  We unfortunately do not know enough about how the program works, or
programming code to do a better diagnosis.

We recognise you are a small team who are doing a great job with very limited
resources and wish there was a way we could help more.  Users volunteer that
they find AOO is much more stable than LO - see Please redirect users to
LibreOffice at https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=50=87149

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--- Comment #129 from Peter  ---
I have checked with the community.
The usual root case of spell checking stopped working is that users do not shut
down their systems probably. I check now if we want to harden open office
against such behaviour or not.
If you always shut down your Operating system properly and still see the
behaviour of spell check stops working please reach out again and we'll see
what the issue is.

In general let your Operating system switch off prperly. It is insane not to do
So!

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Fixing bugs on a 20 year old program is a challenge. If bug reports from users
are inexperienced that makes it even harder to fix something.
As a general rule. If your problem can not reproduced in a laboratory
environment, there is no chance for a fix.

So please, even if you are frustrated, (I am too regarding such bug reports as
yours) start over and do things right. We are only a small core community that
is working on evolving open office today.
Open Office needs your help, as much as you can provide. If you provide a good
analysis which action has caused the issue, enlarges the chance we are able to
fix the code.

If you just want that others do the job then other projects are more suited for
you.


The minimal requirements are that we can reproduce the error in a laboratory
environment.

Thank you for your attention. I hope for your understanding and support.

All the best
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--- Comment #127 from Joe  ---
This is one of the most useless “help” sites I have ever seen. And most of the
responses here are ridiculous. Aren't the developers here supposed to update
these programs when a bug is found?
I don't know about anybody else but my spellcheck just stops working. Twice. So
I just deleted the program and reinstalled it. Works fine. I didn't change any
directory names, didn't add any remotely related programs, have no detectable
virus, the spellcheck just stops working from what appears to be an internal
problem. So fix it. Jeez!

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When some other work is completed over the current week, I am going to put my
attention on creation of a downloadable tool that will reset the user profile
on Windows.  Versions for other platforms can be based on that.  The end-user
will not be required to find AppData under there account, and the tool will be
very careful in establishing that it has found the right place.

This will not be comprehensive.  I.e., it will end up backing up some material
that the user might want back.  We can work through second-order problems once
we have the first-order difficulty in place.

There are two things that make this and other supplemental tools workable.

 1. The basic approach can be accomplished with a simple script, such as the
kind now in beta test for applying a HotFix to Apache OpenOffice 4.1.2.

 2. Every installation of Apache OpenOffice 4.1.x has its own install of Python
which can be used for more complicated utility functions when more
functionality is required.

My target for having something in QA and beta testing is the end US Labor Day
weekend, September 2-5.

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OK, I'm having this issue in version 4.1.1, not version 3.4.1, and I have no
idea where the user profile directory is that I'm supposed to delete!

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 how do you delete the profile I can't find it?
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Can you please explain what the user profile directory is and how you change or
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Can you please explain what the user profile is and how you change or delete
it?(In reply to Rob Weir from comment #0)
 Some users, when upgrading to AOO 3.4.1 experience a condition where spell
 checking does not work.  This appears to be related to the user profile
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 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121625
 
 The same solution described there appears to clear the problem, namely
 deleting or renaming the user profile directory.

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 Can you explain how to rename or delete the user profile?

The user profile is folder.
First, close OpenOffice and locate the folder, with the program you use to
browse folders and files.
Once you find the folder, rename it, or delete it.

Detailed information can be found in
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426

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 Can you explain how to rename or delete the user profile?

Also note that most users have reported that simply removing the sub-folders
named extensions and uno_packages solved the bug, so try first these
solution; if this does not work, rename/remove the whole user profile.

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*** Issue 121635 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

--- Comment #37 from Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org ---
*** Issue 121661 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[Issue 121930] Tracking Issue for Spell Checking Not Working

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*** Issue 124043 has been marked as a duplicate of this issue. ***

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[Issue 121930] Tracking Issue for Spell Checking Not Working

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[Issue 121930] Tracking Issue for Spell Checking Not Working

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   |oo/show_bug.cgi?id=121887,  |
   |https://issues.apache.org/o |
   |oo/show_bug.cgi?id=15,  |
   |https://issues.apache.org/o |
   |oo/show_bug.cgi?id=122299,  |
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