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Re: KDE L&F ?
Hi! On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 Rachel Greenham wrote: >Well, as far as I could see, the Window Manager gives you the basic >window surrounding furniture - the close/maximise/minimise etc., but >nothing inside the window of a Swing app. Where also the JInternalFrame's show up. So it requires the implementation of the window style, too. >A KDE L&F would produce KDE >style menus and other gadgets - probably via some sort of peering(?) so >it could read the configured KDE settings and do things the way the >current version of KDE does them. inc. colour and shape choices. > >Peering, of course, defeats the object of Swing. :-} I suppose you could >reimplement the QTLib gadgets in Java, but you'd still have to read >system/user config files to know what settings to use. Of course, those features are only possible on real KDE systems, but if there are some default settings (like the Win L&F uses them on my system), there might be a chance, that Win users could use a good L&F on their systems, too. :-) Ciao, Andreas
Re: JavaHelp on Linux
Hi! On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 Michael Doherty wrote: >Anybody know if the JavaHelp beta1.0 works on Linux? >http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/earlyAccess/javahelp/index.html I gave it a try, but had lots of problems. According to the docs, some parts have to be compiled with a Java(1.?)2 compiler. Tried the pre-compiled stuff, but had lots of exceptions. Only 1 of the demo apps worked for me. But I had only 30mins, or so. Somebody in the Java NG's mentioned another help system (jHelp?). Anybody tried this one? Ciao, Andreas
Re: [email protected]
On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, hackit usolame wrote: > hey > i did all what u told me , but its still not work (i added the path > line to > my profile) , and now i can execute the /jdk1.1.5/bin from every > directory > : but its still giving me error message well , this is the error > SecMgre:/jdk1.1.5/bin#./java (this is the command that i executing > i can > execute it from every directory , because i added /jdk1.1.5 to the > path in the > profile file) > : and this is the error > java: /jdk1.1.5/bin/../bin/Linux/green_threads/java:No such file or > directory/. > java: /jdk1.1.5/bin/../bin/Linux/green_threads/java:No such file or > directory/. I've seen the same mistake on my box, when I tried to use the libc6-Version of JDK on a libc5-based linux-system. I had to get the libc5-version of the JDK - that worked... Maybe this helps you, too J"orn St"ork E-Post: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JavaHelp on Linux
Michael Doherty wrote: > > Anybody know if the JavaHelp beta1.0 works on Linux? > http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/earlyAccess/javahelp/index.html > Sure - it's all Java Oliver
Re: jvm support for >1024 fds
in reality, select() was universal to all kerns' !. poll() was software
emmalated in the 2.0.xx series. poll() was the orig choice of system call,
but history took a different turn on the linux boxes, where the functi
onality of poll had to be recreated so that most of the linux world would
run on it!
gat
Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 18, 1999 at 08:41:18AM +, David Warnock wrote:
> >
> > Alan Cox one of the key kernel developers mentions a patch to allow a
> > lot more file handles in his on-line diary at
> >
> > http://www.linux.org.uk/diary/
> >
> > I suggest youn try looking there (I think it will have more detailed
> > references if you go further back.
> >
> > I also think I may have seen something about this at Linux Weekly
> > news a while ago. Try searching at http://lwn.net/
>
> The kernel does support it. The only problem is that the JVM is using
> select(2) when it should use poll(2).
>
> --
> Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ )
> Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmV>HI~} <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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[email protected]
Pascal Chong yeah , ofcourse i know how to download... (; and btw - when i emaild you , someone else emaild me back too .. he told me that he had the same problem in his own box , becuase he had lib 6 , so he told me that i have to download lib 5 jdk version.. _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
JDK 1.2 TimeTable Not Possible Yet, Status Report
Hi, In an attempt to stop the flood of "when will jdk 1.2 be out", here is a short status report: The JDK 1.2 runs "reasonably well" under native threads for x86, PPC and Sparc. Work on other processors is continuing. BUT there are problems that need to be resolved before we can ship. The most pressing concern is a non-obvious problem in native threading (or linuxthreads?) which causes hangs on single processor machines and seg-faults on SMP machines. This prevents the JCK from completing which in turn prevents us from shipping it. We are attacking the problem in 2 ways. Dr. Phill Edwards, the author of the 1.1.7 native threads is now looking at it (1.2 and 1.1.7 use different native_threads implementations). Others are porting/fixing green_threads to work on JDK 1.2. If we can pass the JCK under green_threads we can ship and fix the native threads in a later release or visa-versa. So we can't actually quote a delivery date. As Steve pointed out, we *must* pass the JCK *before* we can ship anything!. Until these problems are solved, we simply can't get the JCK to run to completion without hanging. We are *all* working on the problem and hope to come up with a solution soon, but we simply can not promise any one date. Please be patient. Also, please remember, we are all volunteers with other "real" jobs that must come first. We are doing our best. Kevin Blackdown Porting Team! -- Kevin B. Hendricks Associate Professor, Operations & Information Technology School of Business, College of William & Mary Williamsburg, VA 23187, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://business.tyler.wm.edu
Re: KDE L&F ?
Hi! On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 Ernst de Haan wrote: >KDE look and feel... H, does sound like a good idea... > >GreetinX++, Znerd alias Ernst In case it helps you: you're not alone with your opinion. I've asked my question some months ago in some Java+Linux NG's and got lot of positive replies, but also people telling me, that the L&F API's are not completely nailed down yet. I followed the NG discussions about L&F programming over the last weeks and thought, that the chances might be better now. I asked some KDE developers at the GUUG (German Unix Users Group) meeting last year, and it seems that they would appreciate such a L&F. Ciao, Andreas
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Re: JDK 1.2 TimeTable Not Possible Yet, Status Report
Kevin, I totaly agree with you and fully appreaciate and am greatful of the work that has has gone into giving the Linux population the JDK's to date (I of cause am looking forward to 1.2), I am sure most of us can cope with using 1.1.7 etc.. for the time being. I am also sure that the porting team are pulling their hair out over 1.2 as I am sure they would like to use it too. All I can say is keep up the good work and place in big bold letters on the linux java pages '1.2 is not yet available'. But if someone out there has sucessfully build a linux jdk1.2 I hope they inform the porting team, so that the team can speed up the offical beta release and with luck stop all these crazy emails. Matt > Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:22:06 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: "Kevin B. Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: JDK 1.2 TimeTable Not Possible Yet, Status Report > > Hi, > > In an attempt to stop the flood of "when will jdk 1.2 be out", here is a > short status report: > > The JDK 1.2 runs "reasonably well" under native threads for x86, PPC and > Sparc. Work on other processors is continuing. BUT there are problems that > need to be resolved before we can ship. The most pressing concern is a > non-obvious problem in native threading (or linuxthreads?) which causes > hangs on single processor machines and seg-faults on SMP machines. This > prevents the JCK from completing which in turn prevents us from shipping it. > > We are attacking the problem in 2 ways. Dr. Phill Edwards, the author of > the 1.1.7 native threads is now looking at it (1.2 and 1.1.7 use different > native_threads implementations). Others are porting/fixing green_threads > to work on JDK 1.2. If we can pass the JCK under green_threads we can ship > and fix the native threads in a later release or visa-versa. > > So we can't actually quote a delivery date. As Steve pointed out, we > *must* pass the JCK *before* we can ship anything!. Until these problems > are solved, we simply can't get the JCK to run to completion without > hanging. > > We are *all* working on the problem and hope to come up with a solution > soon, but we simply can not promise any one date. > > Please be patient. Also, please remember, we are all volunteers with other > "real" jobs that must come first. We are doing our best. > > > > Kevin > > Blackdown Porting Team! > > > > -- > Kevin B. Hendricks > Associate Professor, Operations & Information Technology > School of Business, College of William & Mary > Williamsburg, VA 23187, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://business.tyler.wm.edu > >
1.2 ETA?
Any idea of an ETA on this? Since there is no date for "now" it's hard to judge progress. Thanks for your hard work! JDK 1.2 The system is running on x86 and PowerPC, with ports underway to SparcLinux and some other processors. Currently it's native threads only. Before we can release, we have to make sure that it passes the tests in the Java Compatibility Kit. I think we should be ready to release in less than a month from now, and hopefully much sooner. Chris Rowan
Re: KDE L&F ?
Hi Rachel & all, Rachel Greenham wrote: -- > Well, as far as I could see, the Window Manager gives you the basic > window surrounding furniture - the close/maximise/minimise etc., but > nothing inside the window of a Swing app. A KDE L&F would produce KDE > style menus and other gadgets - probably via some sort of peering(?) so Nah, no peering! Just delegation. AWT uses peering. Check out the javax.swing.plaf javadocs and the articles on the Swing Connection. KDE look and feel... H, does sound like a good idea... GreetinX++, Znerd alias Ernst -- _ | "Come to me all you who are weary and burdened, and I | | will give you rest." | | | | -- Jesus Christ (Mt. 11:28) | |_| | Ernst de Haan | email [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Java programmer | web members.xoom.com/znerd/ | | Utrecht University| icq# 21871778 | |___|_|
Re: JDK 1.2 TimeTable Not Possible Yet, Status Report
Kevin, Thank-you for the update but more importantly thank-you to the whole team for all the work you are doing on our behalf. Your efforts are much appreciated. Dave David Warnock Sundayta Ltd
Re: JDK 1.2 TimeTable Not Possible Yet, Status Report
I agree fully! Thank you guys for everything.. I REALLY appreciate it! Jason Hoffman David Warnock wrote: > Kevin, > > Thank-you for the update but more importantly thank-you to the whole > team for all the work you are doing on our behalf. > > Your efforts are much appreciated. > > Dave > > David Warnock > Sundayta Ltd
Re: From JDK1.1.3 to JDK1.1.7
The most typical way I would imagine is to extract the 1.1.7 archive into a directory like /usr/jdk1.1.7 then create a link named /usr/java which points to it. Change all of your classpaths and environment variables to use the /usr/java link instead of /usr/jdk1.1.3 or whatever your current path is. If you have problems with 1.1.7, you can then just change the single link to point back at the old path, or when 1.2 comes out you can repeat this process in just a few seconds. Hope that helps.
Re: KDE L&F ?
How about a GTK+ AWT peer, along with the ability to set this as the default to remove the dependancy on Motif, and thus cut down a little on bloat? I was deep in meditation when Andreas Rueckert awoke me by saying: > > Hi! > > On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 Ernst de Haan wrote: > > > > >KDE look and feel... H, does sound like a good idea... > > > >GreetinX++, Znerd alias Ernst > > In case it helps you: you're not alone with your opinion. I've asked my > question some months ago in some Java+Linux NG's and got lot of positive > replies, but also people telling me, that the L&F API's are not completely > nailed down yet. I followed the NG discussions about L&F programming over the > last weeks and thought, that the chances might be better now. > I asked some KDE developers at the GUUG (German Unix Users Group) meeting last > year, and it seems that they would appreciate such a L&F. > > Ciao, > Andreas > > > -- ¤¤ | Aaron Gaudio mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | |http://www.rit.edu/~adg1653/| ¤¤ | "The fool finds ignorance all around him. | | The wise man finds ignorance within." | ¤¤ Use of any of my email addresses is subject to the terms found at http://www.rit.edu/~adg1653/email.shtml. By using any of my addresses, you agree to be bound by the terms therein.
GTK+ AWT peers (was: KDE L&F ?)
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Aaron Gaudio wrote: > How about a GTK+ AWT peer, along with the ability to set this as the default > to remove the dependancy on Motif, and thus cut down a little on bloat? I'm working on this. It is based on the JDK1.2 port, so don't expect it any time soon. Nigel Gamble[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mountain View, CA, USA. http://www.nrg.org/
genclass templates for Java?
Does anybody know of a (preferably Java-written - has to work for Win32 too) tool that implements a template-like text replacement for Java? Like the "genclass" script did in the very early days of gcc-based C++? I know that templates are not part of the Java language. It would be handy though to have a simple way to create sources from a template source by just replacing some type and final placeholders. b.
port information
I was wondering if your port was supported by Sun in any way. The reason I'm asking is because I need to perform some benchmarking, and if I could do it all on a linux system it would make my life much simpler, however, I want to make sure the numbers for Java are an accurate representation of Sun's JVM (mainly in thread performance), so I didn't want to use something like Kaffe. Thanks for any information. Patrick O'Neill
web server
I am wondering whether there is a web server that can process jhtml files and can run on Linux platforms. Java web server can process jhtml, but only run on NT and Solaris. I didn't read documentation about apache very recently. If you have any info, please send it to me or to all members. Thanks in advance! Jinpeng
jdk1.2 when?
Hi, I have been checking out blackdown site for the last month waiting for the 1.2 port to be available. The site reads "...we should be ready to release in less than a month from now, and hopefully much sooner." Do you think it will be out fairly soon or I shouldn't rely on it? Thank you, Jenya.
Re: port information
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:53:18 -0500 (EST), Patrick W. O'Neill wrote: >I was wondering if your port was supported by Sun in any way. The reason >I'm asking is because I need to perform some benchmarking, and if I could >do it all on a linux system it would make my life much simpler, however, I >want to make sure the numbers for Java are an accurate representation of >Sun's JVM (mainly in thread performance), so I didn't want to use >something like Kaffe. Thanks for any information. Our port is based on Sun's code (we have a source license from Sun) However, threading is very dependant on a number of things. 1) Native threads are very dependant on the OS and the interface the OS provides for the threads. For example, on OS/2, you will see much higher threading performance than on, say, Windows. Solaris also has much higher threading performance than Linux. 2) Green threads depends on the JVM to switch between threads internally. This depends on the quality of the library code for green threads and the OS support for sync signals and the like. (select() and poll()) Windows would do rather poorly in such an environment. Most good unix implementations should do rather well. Now, the Linux port had to do lots of work to get Native threads to work in the Linux threading model. And the Green threads also took some work due to some library routine issues. (and the lack of poll() in the kernel.) Michael Sinz -- Director of Research & Development, NextBus Inc. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.nextbus.com My place on the web ---> http://www.users.fast.net/~michael_sinz
Re: genclass templates for Java?
Bernd Kreimeier wrote: > > Does anybody know of a (preferably Java-written - has to > work for Win32 too) tool that implements a template-like > text replacement for Java? Like the "genclass" script did > in the very early days of gcc-based C++? > > I know that templates are not part of the Java language. > It would be handy though to have a simple way to create > sources from a template source by just replacing some > type and final placeholders. If you're looking for templates, you might want to check out "Generic Java", a Java superset that adds templates. Their java-based compiler runs either as a compiler or a preprocessor. Site: http://www.cis.unisa.edu.au/~pizza/gj/ This site also includes "pizza", a first attempt at supporting parametric polymorphism. "Gj", the second try, paid much better attention to compatibility with existing code. My experience with it has been very positive. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GTK+ AWT peers (was: KDE L&F ?)
Nigel Gamble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Aaron Gaudio wrote: > > How about a GTK+ AWT peer, along with the ability to set this as the default > > to remove the dependancy on Motif, and thus cut down a little on bloat? > > I'm working on this. It is based on the JDK1.2 port, so don't expect > it any time soon. Take a look at http://www.classpath.org/. Paul Fisher and Jim Blair have been hammering out GTK+ peers for a few months now. Not sure just how far they are from done, but Paul's threading modification to GTK+ may get into the main tree sometime in the near future and their current work is being done with the JDK 1.1.7 native threads from Blackdown. Brian -- |---|Software Engineer |Brian Jones|[EMAIL PROTECTED] |[EMAIL PROTECTED]|http://www.nortel.net |http://www.classpath.org/ |--
Re: JDK 1.2 TimeTable Not Possible Yet, Status Report
Kevin, thanks you all for your effort and for letting us know. --Paolo
Re: GTK+ AWT peers (was: KDE L&F ?)
On 20 Jan 1999, Brian Jones wrote: > Nigel Gamble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Aaron Gaudio wrote: > > > How about a GTK+ AWT peer, along with the ability to set this as the default > > > to remove the dependancy on Motif, and thus cut down a little on bloat? > > > > I'm working on this. It is based on the JDK1.2 port, so don't expect > > it any time soon. > > Take a look at http://www.classpath.org/. Paul Fisher and Jim Blair > have been hammering out GTK+ peers for a few months now. Not sure > just how far they are from done, but Paul's threading modification to > GTK+ may get into the main tree sometime in the near future and their > current work is being done with the JDK 1.1.7 native threads from > Blackdown. That's great! What I'm working on is not so ambitious: I'm starting from Sun's existing Motif peer classes and (more or less) just replacing the Motif widgets with corresponding GTK+ widgets. It will be able to be released as a jar file and a shared lib, and would be an optional alternative to the standard Motif AWT toolkit. (I work for Sun, so I can't work on the classpath.org project, but I hope that it is a great success!) Nigel Gamble[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mountain View, CA, USA. http://www.nrg.org/
Re: web server
Jinpeng Xie wrote: > I am wondering whether there is a web server that can process jhtml > files and can run on Linux platforms. > > Java web server can process jhtml, but only run on NT and Solaris. > I didn't read documentation about apache very recently. Try Jigsaw from the W3 Consortium -- it's fully Java: http://www.w3.org/Jigsaw/ Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: web server
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jinpeng Xie wrote: > > I am wondering whether there is a web server that can process jhtml > > files and can run on Linux platforms. > > > > Java web server can process jhtml, but only run on NT and Solaris. > > I didn't read documentation about apache very recently. > > Try Jigsaw from the W3 Consortium -- it's fully Java: > > http://www.w3.org/Jigsaw/ > > Nathan Meyers > [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can also try Apache JServ which lets you use servlets on Apache (http://java.apache.org), I'm sure there's at least one add-on to JServ that allows you to process jhtml files. Check the mailing list archives at the Apache JServ site (I don't remember which package does it) I'm using Apache JServ on Linux with absolutely no problems. Hope this helps, -Mario.
Intergrating
I was wondering would it be possible to link the JDK to other Graphical libaries such has Qt, Gnome etc.
java-linux hosting
Hi, I read the recent messages Re: hosting the list. Another option might be OneList (http://www.onelist.com). It's a free list-hosting service (paid for by advertising, 3 or 4 lines on each message). They also have list archiving and a web-based admin interface. Thought it might be an interesting option. I am not affiliated with them in any way, just saw the site and thought to forward the info. -Mario.
Re: KDE L&F ?
Aaron Gaudio wrote: > > How about a GTK+ AWT peer, along with the ability to set this as the default > to remove the dependancy on Motif, and thus cut down a little on bloat? The people working on the Classpath project (gnu class libs for java) are doing exactly this, the last I heard, their gtk peer implementation is about the alpha stage. Maksim. -- Maksim Lin "...handing C++ to the average programmer seems roughly comparable to handing a loaded .45 to a chimpanzee." -- Ted Ts'o
jdk 116
Can't download JDK 1.1.6 from http://java.blackdown.org/~sbb. Getting 404 error. Sam
Re: Intergrating
Nathan Stevens wrote: > > I was wondering would it be possible to link the JDK to > other Graphical libaries such has Qt, Gnome etc. If your goal is access to these libraries from your app, you need to look into the Java Native Interface. If, OTOH, your goal is to redo the various Java components using Qt (or whatever) components instead of Motif components, then there's more to it than linking: you've got to write peer interfaces for a bunch of Java components. Not that I've ever tried it, but if you really want to use a different graphical toolkit, I think it would require something like this: 1) Write your own implementations of all of the java.awt.peer.* interfaces using Qt (or whatever). 2) Write your own subclass of java.awt.Toolkit that uses your implementations. 3) With all that stuff in your CLASSPATH, set the system property awt.toolkit to the classname of your Toolkit class. It's a lot of trouble, and a bit of a dead end if (as I suspect) the ascendancy of Swing makes the AWT components irrelevant. Nathan Meyers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
JBuilder and Linux
I wrote a project on JBuilder2.0 (windows), but my web server is a linux box. I put my *class, *html in my web server. I used some jbuilder's classes (GridView, GridControl, and more) I don't know if put jbcl2.0.jar or jbcl2.0-src.zip in my web server. I got the following: # Verifier error proy3/Applet1.jbInit()V: Cannot find class borland/jbcl/view/GridView # Applet exception: class proy3/Applet1 got a security violation: method verification error java.lang.VerifyError: proy3/Applet1 Thanks! Carlos Alberto Roman Zamitiz Departamento de Ingenieria en Computacion, Facultad de Ingenieria UNAM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
jikes and java.lang
I have just built jikes on a Intel RH5.2 host. When I invoke the compiler, it aborts w/a complaint about not finding java.lang What is java.lang and where do I get it? TIA! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Guy Cole (KQ6J) * "Expert Plain And Fancy Bit Twiddling" * [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Evil Genius for Dummies" - Buy a copy today! World Domination Tomorrow!
